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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2020 14:02:06 GMT
Bonne & Wallace in, Dykes and Niko on the bench. No Dickie!
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 21, 2020 14:48:31 GMT
How Did Dickie get injured in training in an International break.
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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2020 14:55:37 GMT
How Did Dickie get injured in training in an International break. I'd assume that players still train during the break?
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 15:06:42 GMT
Masterson air kicks at the near post from Watford's first corner, 0-1. We have a chance immediately creating a corner and then a ball cleared off the Watford line.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 21, 2020 15:09:03 GMT
I think its pretty poor that we lose Nikko and Dykes to the bench because of internationals I assume but to lose players who are not playing in internationals I feel is worse, it should only of been light training.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 15:11:02 GMT
I think its pretty poor that we lose Nikko and Dykes to the bench because of internationals I assume but to lose players who are not playing in internationals I feel is worse, it should only of been light training. Very frustrating innit but it happens all the time. Light training or otherwise, there's a hundred ways someone can end up getting injured.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 15:39:33 GMT
Foster keeps a deflected shot from Ball out from 6 yards, proper reaction save.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 21, 2020 15:48:48 GMT
HT 0-1
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Post by rangersman on Nov 21, 2020 15:54:40 GMT
Wallace again picked !! Chair out wide again, not seeing anything but a loss today IMO
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 15:56:19 GMT
Wallace again picked !! Chair out wide again, not seeing anything but a loss today IMO Don't rate Wallace but not much we can do there. Niko's been away with Finland the whole break.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:05:55 GMT
Niko going to be given 45 mins here.
Watford bringing on Deeney for Grey. Imagine having a bench like that lol.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:17:27 GMT
Dykes and Willock on for Bonne and Ball.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:22:04 GMT
QPR need to work on at least two things. 1.giving up goals in the first few minutes 2. Scoring more goals.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:30:00 GMT
Adomah on for BOS for the last 20 mins or so.
Been the better side this half but not been able to make it count.
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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2020 16:37:11 GMT
Chair 1-1 get in!
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:37:30 GMT
YESSSSS slick move, Dykes with a no-look through ball to Chair who slots home! 1-1.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:45:11 GMT
Barbet denied a pen for reasons I have no idea about. Defender had a full clutch of his shirt, pulled him back at a corner. Watford free kick.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:48:23 GMT
Cathcart does Kane high, late, no chance of winning the ball. Shouldn't be on the pitch, scum.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:53:08 GMT
Dykes puts it in the net...but disallowed for using his arm.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 16:56:08 GMT
1-1 FT. Take that all day, well done lads.
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 21, 2020 16:57:40 GMT
Sounds harsh at the end but a fair result. Nice One u rrrrrrs!
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Post by londonranger on Nov 21, 2020 17:07:37 GMT
Great finish, denies Watford first place.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 17:12:26 GMT
Barbet denied a pen for reasons I have no idea about. Defender had a full clutch of his shirt, pulled him back at a corner. Watford free kick.
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Post by rickyqpr on Nov 21, 2020 17:14:56 GMT
We got very little by way of decisions today. We deserved the point, but Watford seemed to just sit back for 93 minutes. I half expected then to break away and score against the run of play. Very pleased with the second half effort
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Post by terryb on Nov 21, 2020 17:17:24 GMT
I only saw the last half hour, but we played a bit of football in that time. Especially for the goal!
I thought we looked a decent side in that time with the defence secure. Todd & Niko were good & the centre halves were mainly in control. Semy didn't have much to do while I was watching & we were the better side.
It might not have been that way for the whole match though. I wait for Bow & others to let me know!
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Post by bowranger on Nov 21, 2020 17:33:31 GMT
I only saw the last half hour, but we played a bit of football in that time. Especially for the goal! I thought we looked a decent side in that time with the defence secure. Todd & Niko were good & the centre halves were mainly in control. Semy didn't have much to do while I was watching & we were the better side. It might not have been that way for the whole match though. I wait for Bow & others to let me know! Second half was the better but we didn't look poor value for the point at any point really. Their goal was very, very soft, absolutely avoidable. And we looked a bit stodgier first half with Wallace and particularly cos Ball was played more advanced than usual. My guess for that was cos of Watford being very physical at the back and without Dykes starting, Warburton maybe felt we needed a bit of steel up there to hold the ball/stop them playing out? Not sure. He ended up with a good chance which Foster did very well to save but it was a bit odd. Like Ricky said, Watford seemed very happy to sit back for long chunks of the game but always carried the threat that they'd only need a break or two to score considering all the quality they have up top. It reminded me a bit of a less ambitious, lower quality version of West Brom last season - full of athleticism, not a lot of guile, but with the quality to make chances count. We looked a lot better for Willock being on. Actually thought Cameron put in a better performance than he has done for weeks, too. Less of the loose passing, lot of aggression in the middle. Felt you could see a lot of decisions with an eye on the mad fixture schedule coming up - not risking Dykes, Niko, Willock, Ball or Adomah for a full 90. Obvious bias but felt the ref got a lot wrong. I think Chalobah was allowed to get away with a lot. Cathcart shouldn't have been on the pitch (his challenge on Kane could charitably be called an 'orange card') and I think the footage of the Barbet non-penalty speaks for itself.
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Post by nomar on Nov 21, 2020 19:09:09 GMT
We were the better team..
A good performance and good result too.
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Post by Marc on Nov 22, 2020 9:40:02 GMT
All sorts of feed trouble so I did not see the game but listened and followed texts. Sounded like a fair result although we could have nicked the 3 points in the second half. I have seen the penalty that wasn't - total joke and not as if the ref was blindsided - even if he was either linesman should have seen that. I wonder how much difference not having a crowd is making to those sort of decisions. We would have expected a full house yesterday and if the ref had 14,000 or 15,000 fans screaming for the penalty he might have reacted but with just the few players with their arms in the air he took the easy root out. I am not a great VAR fan because I do not think it is being used properly but maybe if it is used similar to cricket and each team can ask for 3 reviews (on top of any the ref asks for) it would beneficial. We would have reviewed that yesterday and 100% certain we would have the penalty and probably the 3 points. Look ay the table and see what those 2 extra points would have done to our league position. Anyway satisfied with a point against a team hat not many will beat this season and hope for 4 points from the next 2 games. PS Good use of the squad and sub decisions by the manager I thought. The problem with the 3 review system is that it requires a stop in play. What happens if this type of penalty claim occurs but the ball hasn't gone dead? Does the captain ask the referee for a review just as the other team pump the ball upfield and create a chance on the break? They then review and decide it isn't a penalty and subsequently, the other team are aggrieved because they have been unfairly denied a possible goal scoring opportunity.
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Post by rickyqpr on Nov 22, 2020 9:48:36 GMT
All sorts of feed trouble so I did not see the game but listened and followed texts. Sounded like a fair result although we could have nicked the 3 points in the second half. I have seen the penalty that wasn't - total joke and not as if the ref was blindsided - even if he was either linesman should have seen that. I wonder how much difference not having a crowd is making to those sort of decisions. We would have expected a full house yesterday and if the ref had 14,000 or 15,000 fans screaming for the penalty he might have reacted but with just the few players with their arms in the air he took the easy root out. I am not a great VAR fan because I do not think it is being used properly but maybe if it is used similar to cricket and each team can ask for 3 reviews (on top of any the ref asks for) it would beneficial. We would have reviewed that yesterday and 100% certain we would have the penalty and probably the 3 points. Look ay the table and see what those 2 extra points would have done to our league position. Anyway satisfied with a point against a team hat not many will beat this season and hope for 4 points from the next 2 games. PS Good use of the squad and sub decisions by the manager I thought. The problem with the 3 review system is that it requires a stop in play. What happens if this type of penalty claim occurs but the ball hasn't gone dead? Does the captain ask the referee for a review just as the other team pump the ball upfield and create a chance on the break? They then review and decide it isn't a penalty and subsequently, the other team are aggrieved because they have been unfairly denied a possible goal scoring opportunity
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Post by rickyqpr on Nov 22, 2020 10:00:34 GMT
Yes, I agree Marc. Technology, used correctly can be a very good thing. It can correct wrong doing in a game and has been used to inflict retrospective punishment when the ref has missed it. But I usually watch Match of the Day and even the commentary is different now due to VAR. A 'goal' is scored, the commentator registers it but quickly adds ' let's see what VAR make of that' the scorer half celebrates, the defenders look to the VAR to save their bacon - and yet no one knows what the decision is likely to be. I watch cricket and sometimes rugby and technology is used wisely. Football frankly, has made a mess of it. How can someone's pointed outstretched arm be off-side? How can a shoe lace or a toecap disallow a goal or play someone on side. Surely, what is lacking is common sense and consistency in the application of the technology, because in the Prem, it has taken away a lot of the fun. Yesterday, the ref gave us very little, we should have had a penalty, we thought we had won it with Dyke's great header (with his arm) but at least we had genuine emotions and disappointment, not some sterile wait to see if the ref is useless - we already knew that. So for me, stop the nonsense decisions and use it to assess obvious errors - in the Championship, the ref goes over to the lino, well those are the times he calls for VAR. Nothing would be 100% effective, but lets try to keep the magic IMHO.
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