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Post by londonranger on Nov 3, 2020 14:31:36 GMT
We need to hold on to as many as we can. As our base is shrinking.
eg. Bushman Eusebio a few others that I cant recall at this moment. Maybe others do recall.
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Post by LifeR on Nov 3, 2020 15:58:47 GMT
Greetings London, MacM, LoneG, Marc, Harr and crew (apologies if I have overlooked major playas). I have been a daily visitor for a decade or so. Mostly for the terrific transfer threads. Health and job challenges precluded more active participation until recently. I had contributed on occasion but became an avid visitor instead. This site is great not just for what it has, but also for the absence of vitriol (OK, except for directed at Chelscum, Liverpool and Norridge). Civil discourse occurs at worst! Also, just footie, thank heavens. I too have fretted about Bushman and Eusebio. Very much looking forward to contributing. Incidentally, my sons and grandchildren are Rangers through and through (OK, FKWs, even the 2 year old). Doing our part to expand the fan base. (better half thinks we are mental; on the money sadly) Thanks to modern tech/subscription services especially QPR site, we don't miss a game. Keep up the great work chaps!!
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 3, 2020 18:20:41 GMT
We need to hold on to as many as we can. As our base is shrinking. eg. Bushman Eusebio a few others that I cant recall at this moment. Maybe others do recall. I was thinking similar thoughts a few days ago. Obviously don't like to ask in these covid times. Also I am never 100% sure if someone is posting uder a different name. Deffo miss the amazing Bushman his ability to bring up any program and great posts from bygone days. also MarkQPR Superkat Marshbowles Rory Florida spanish Al. But as you say there are many many more MIA.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 3, 2020 18:35:44 GMT
Style you have reminded me of so many inactive posters. Recall Ingham would give these very long profound posts usually about economics. Mark who has gone to every home game before the Covid posts on my birthday annually. Thanks Mark, Haq has disappeared, thought he might have passed on but Maude who has left assured me that was wrong. Not much we can do but by posting this some may come back. We shall see.
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Post by harr on Nov 3, 2020 20:23:10 GMT
We need to hold on to as many as we can. As our base is shrinking. eg. Bushman Eusebio a few others that I cant recall at this moment. Maybe others do recall. I was thinking similar thoughts a few days ago. Obviously don't like to ask in these covid times. Also I am never 100% sure if someone is posting uder a different name. Deffo miss the amazing Bushman his ability to bring up any program and great posts from bygone days. also MarkQPR Superkat Marshbowles Rory Florida spanish Al. But as you say there are many many more MIA. Rory, Bushy and SuperK I see tweet occasionally. Last time we followed Eus was when he took a few months out around the world. Was that last year? All great posters. would be good to hear from a few of them.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 3, 2020 20:29:00 GMT
Always 5 hours late. Thanks for your kind comments. We try to be civilized. Maybe you'll think of something to post when you have time. We are quite conscious of any ad hominems and thats one of many reasons we stay or try to stay caring for each other.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 3, 2020 20:59:21 GMT
Eusebio went around the world two years ago I think. Wondering if people cant come to see games in person, they can be less interested in posting? I know Bushman lives in Herefordshire and used to drive in to Loftus to see the games Cant do that until Covid peters out. Probably another year?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 4, 2020 7:37:30 GMT
I miss them too. QPR Mark, come back and Bushie and the rest. All equal missed. This Covid thing should be keeping everyone in touch.
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Post by terryb on Nov 4, 2020 9:46:14 GMT
Baz is another person missing from when I first posted. However, I think we need to accept that most, if not all, of those names are lost to this site.
The important posters these days are ricky, bow, 75, nomar, marc, stylecouncilor & harr. My apologies to any regular poster that i've missed.
I would sugest that if you looked at LFW & not606, you would see that they have also "lost" very active posters from ten years ago. Some people have fallen out of "love" with the game, some with Rangers & others with message boards. It is sad to say that some have also died & that not many younger people use these types of forum.
Other forms of social media are far more common than in the past & I would sugest that many boards are nearing the end of their natural life.
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Post by Marc on Nov 4, 2020 10:35:32 GMT
Good points terry & 75.
What I would also add is the Facebook groups seem to have taken over from forums/message boards to some degree over the last few years.
Personally, I prefer forums message boards but there's no denying the convenience of Facebook. Most people have FB accounts and it's easier to have all your difference groups in one timeline. Similar for Twitter, I follow a fair few from here including Mac, SupercKat, Bushman, Rory, Eusebio and Ashdown Ranger but I don't find it the ideal platform as far as interaction is concerned.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 4, 2020 11:05:33 GMT
Again as Terry and 75 point out there are just so many platforms now that maybe where they have gone. From my own point of view, I landed here after the QPR message board closed. I had a quick scout around noticed a few names on here I recognised so stayed. That was 9 years ago , now I've only posted 800 odd posts in that time so not really prolific. I was more of a reader than a poster, and again as 75 states its quite obvious that many a poster on here are of a certain age. This to me is a thing I like we were there in the great Glory days can discuss them and talk about them. Obviously it also means we have seen very dark and desperate times, which means we don't want everyone sacked after a defeat we debate it have our opinions some agree some disagree.
I recently had a debate/discussion with Rangersman after the Barnsley defeat, He pointed out that if I looked around other boards they agreed with his point of view. That maybe the case but I would rather know why he believes in what he says not just following the crowd. I've had fallouts on here and upset people, not meaning to. A lot of it stems from the voice you hear as you read a post. I will be the first to admit my Punctuation is terrible. So it probably reads more of a rant than a question. London recently posted about MW perhaps should go if we lost his next match. He seemed to think he upset people when people disagreed. I personally questioned who he would replace him with, I was not upset, I was interested.
I suppose I am pointing out more why I am still here is because the Posters on here suit me. There of a certain age. Slightly thicker skinned so don't get over upset about a post and there is a bit more of a debate. This might be the case everywhere and I do read the posts people put up from other sites I find them interesting just never felt the need to really go anywhere else for my QPR fix.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 4, 2020 12:21:30 GMT
For me the board fills a particular niche for me really nicely. Weirdly, the very reasons terryb rightly points to that have people heading off to Facebook etc are the reasons I ended up here.
The football-only remit is a big chunk of it. I love talking about QPR but after being a long term poster on LFW, I migrated here because I can't trust myself to not get involved in the politics threads that increasingly became such a big thing over there (having a poster offer me out for a straightener at the next home game for my opinions was one of the final straws haha). It's a great site and I'm good friends with Clive but it's about knowing what things set you off and well, the messageboard there is one of them for me haha.
I work with social media a lot for work, so I largely keep off it on a personal level. Deleted my Facebook ages ago. The QPR groups are very active but massively toxic and the fact you know it's rapidly updating with notifications etc is stress I just can't be arsed with. Ditto with Twitter, it's crowded, it's hard to gauge tone, you don't have much space to express yourself and it is just full of 'drive by' opinions and venting.
Here at least, the pace is slower but you get a sense of personality behind posters over time. People sometimes get pissed off or whatever, but it's broadly good natured and people back up their opinions. It's a decent debate and a good low-commitment option to talk solely about QPR with other people who care about the club. And it's often a benefit for me too, as someone who's age means I've 'only' been coming to QPR from the 90s onwards to get some historical perspective. The current club picture and diversity of opinions is a lot easier to kinda assess and consider when you have opinions from people who have actually seen the club compete at the very highest level. Whereas for me, bar some very hazy memories of Sir Les and the Warnock era, I've largely experienced us as a struggling side.
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Post by surreychad on Nov 4, 2020 12:46:16 GMT
For me the board fills a particular niche for me really nicely. Weirdly, the very reasons terryb rightly points to that have people heading off to Facebook etc are the reasons I ended up here. Me too, I don't do social media and refuse to be limited to 140 characters or what ever the twatter limit is.
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Post by harr on Nov 4, 2020 12:51:09 GMT
Always been a good bunch of posters on here and seldom any issues. I still like to look on here rather than Social media. I know sometimes we have a difference of views but generally it all gets discussed pretty amicably. I think if most us came across each other at a game we would pretty much get on fine. Sometimes I use this board to vent my frustrations on, saying that I’m pretty positive at games believe it or not, I guess a little old school. My son uses social media for QPR info more than me, some of the stuff he shows me on Facebook makes me pretty ashamed . To many keyboard warriors.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 4, 2020 13:05:24 GMT
For me the board fills a particular niche for me really nicely. Weirdly, the very reasons terryb rightly points to that have people heading off to Facebook etc are the reasons I ended up here. The football-only remit is a big chunk of it. I love talking about QPR but after being a long term poster on LFW, I migrated here because I can't trust myself to not get involved in the politics threads that increasingly became such a big thing over there (having a poster offer me out for a straightener at the next home game for my opinions was one of the final straws haha). It's a great site and I'm good friends with Clive but it's about knowing what things set you off and well, the messageboard there is one of them for me haha. I work with social media a lot for work, so I largely keep off it on a personal level. Deleted my Facebook ages ago. The QPR groups are very active but massively toxic and the fact you know it's rapidly updating with notifications etc is stress I just can't be arsed with. Ditto with Twitter, it's crowded, it's hard to gauge tone, you don't have much space to express yourself and it is just full of 'drive by' opinions and venting. Here at least, the pace is slower but you get a sense of personality behind posters over time. People sometimes get pissed off or whatever, but it's broadly good natured and people back up their opinions. It's a decent debate and a good low-commitment option to talk solely about QPR with other people who care about the club. And it's often a benefit for me too, as someone who's age means I've 'only' been coming to QPR from the 90s onwards to get some historical perspective. The current club picture and diversity of opinions is a lot easier to kinda assess and consider when you have opinions from people who have actually seen the club compete at the very highest level. Whereas for me, bar some very hazy memories of Sir Les and the Warnock era, I've largely experienced us as a struggling side. I had you down for longer and older. though 1990 was thirty years ago as terrible as that sounds . Its also 1992 the premier league started and of course year 1 QPR top London club in 5th ahead of the likes of Liverpool and Man. City . OK its not been great since but hey-ho it happened. I stopped going to QPR a few years back. But the one great thing I have is I can say Ive watched my team win at Wembley win in Europe play in the millenium stadium Win at old Trafford and Anfield. Its always great to be able to throw those facts in the faces of Arsenal Chelsea and Man utd fans. Slightly unfair as they probably been no nearer than a TV screen. Its unfair in the fact that someone who says they support QPR and have never been to the ground does not bother me and IS a life-long supporter. I admire our USA. Kiwis Aussie and Euro Fans who follow us from a far, with some of the time difference's not sure I would bother sometimes !! because its easy to just follow Man Utd Liverpool or Arsenal it takes a bit of Effort to follow QPR whatever the reason.
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Post by bowranger on Nov 4, 2020 15:12:12 GMT
For me the board fills a particular niche for me really nicely. Weirdly, the very reasons terryb rightly points to that have people heading off to Facebook etc are the reasons I ended up here. The football-only remit is a big chunk of it. I love talking about QPR but after being a long term poster on LFW, I migrated here because I can't trust myself to not get involved in the politics threads that increasingly became such a big thing over there (having a poster offer me out for a straightener at the next home game for my opinions was one of the final straws haha). It's a great site and I'm good friends with Clive but it's about knowing what things set you off and well, the messageboard there is one of them for me haha. I work with social media a lot for work, so I largely keep off it on a personal level. Deleted my Facebook ages ago. The QPR groups are very active but massively toxic and the fact you know it's rapidly updating with notifications etc is stress I just can't be arsed with. Ditto with Twitter, it's crowded, it's hard to gauge tone, you don't have much space to express yourself and it is just full of 'drive by' opinions and venting. Here at least, the pace is slower but you get a sense of personality behind posters over time. People sometimes get pissed off or whatever, but it's broadly good natured and people back up their opinions. It's a decent debate and a good low-commitment option to talk solely about QPR with other people who care about the club. And it's often a benefit for me too, as someone who's age means I've 'only' been coming to QPR from the 90s onwards to get some historical perspective. The current club picture and diversity of opinions is a lot easier to kinda assess and consider when you have opinions from people who have actually seen the club compete at the very highest level. Whereas for me, bar some very hazy memories of Sir Les and the Warnock era, I've largely experienced us as a struggling side. I had you down for longer and older. though 1990 was thirty years ago as terrible as that sounds . Its also 1992 the premier league started and of course year 1 QPR top London club in 5th ahead of the likes of Liverpool and Man. City . OK its not been great since but hey-ho it happened. I stopped going to QPR a few years back. But the one great thing I have is I can say Ive watched my team win at Wembley win in Europe play in the millenium stadium Win at old Trafford and Anfield. Its always great to be able to throw those facts in the faces of Arsenal Chelsea and Man utd fans. Slightly unfair as they probably been no nearer than a TV screen. Its unfair in the fact that someone who says they support QPR and have never been to the ground does not bother me and IS a life-long supporter. I admire our USA. Kiwis Aussie and Euro Fans who follow us from a far, with some of the time difference's not sure I would bother sometimes !! because its easy to just follow Man Utd Liverpool or Arsenal it takes a bit of Effort to follow QPR whatever the reason. Hehe true true, though I was very small for the bulk of that positive period sadly..!
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 4, 2020 15:25:25 GMT
[/quote]Hehe true true, though I was very small for the bulk of that positive period sadly..! [/quote]
Well then you need to be able to Justify being a QPR fan . Where I can simply claim Memory loss or just that I am old and senile .
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Post by terryb on Nov 4, 2020 17:01:50 GMT
Of the old posters, there is one who I don't miss at all. Thankfully, I can't remember his name but he stated that he was pleased that I suffered from depression! He was a big fan of Harrold. I don't think there is any current poster that would consider that reply, never mind voice it!
I have met bow for a very enjoyable pre match drink before our last game at Portman Road & in the past I was fortunate enough to do the same with Bushman. I can say that I think most of us would enjoy a beer together. Bow, what user name did you post under on LFW please? Hopefully I'm not one of the posters you fell out with!
I am also lucky to have formed a real friendship with roller (he is mainly having a break from message boards at present) through this board.
Maybe it is because I've suffered from depression in the past, but I do give all boards a miss after a bad defeat as I can't put up with all the negativity. This is more applicable to LFW, but it certainly does apply to this board as well, although not to the same extent. Let's hope I'm on the boards tomorrow after the game at Derby!
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Post by harr on Nov 4, 2020 17:20:33 GMT
I’m not sure who that poster would have been but pretty shocking that someone said that Terry. In general posters keep there points quite clean on here. I know I have been corrected on many occasion and rightly so.
I think it’s probably best to avoid the site straight after defeats, we all love QPR , sometimes our emotions do run away from time to time, we just want the best all the time, even when it’s not possible.
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Post by Marc on Nov 4, 2020 17:43:45 GMT
I'm going to make a wild stab in the dark and guess that it was paul mason. A nasty & abusive member if ever there was one.
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Post by terryb on Nov 4, 2020 17:53:29 GMT
I'm going to make a wild stab in the dark and guess that it was paul mason. A nasty & abusive member if ever there was one. I've just been looking at PM's that I've sent in the past Marc & I can confirm that quite a few were concerning this person! I certainly forgot that he had upset yourself, 75 & bow in the past as well as myself. From memory, Rory was another member of our "elite".
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Post by Marc on Nov 4, 2020 18:07:38 GMT
I'm going to make a wild stab in the dark and guess that it was paul mason. A nasty & abusive member if ever there was one. I've just been looking at PM's that I've sent in the past Marc & I can confirm that quite a few were concerning this person! I certainly forgot that he had upset yourself, 75 & bow in the past as well as myself. From memory, Rory was another member of our "elite". Yes, Rory is quite prolific on twitter
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Post by rickyqpr on Nov 4, 2020 18:56:19 GMT
My story is pretty similar but with a slight twist. I used to flit between message boards, reading and very rarely posting. I started posting on dot.org – Battletank’s site but when that packed up, I tried another but hated some of the venom and negativity. I much preferred this MB. I would read Bow’s posts and feel inclined to join in and then one day I joined up and started posting. I was soon regularly exchanging opinions, particularly with Bow. Initially, I did not want Bow to treat me any different to the other posters on the site, so I never explained to him at our pre-match get together that I was he who answered on-line to ‘Ricky’. I kept it going for a year, somewhat unfairly, then I causally mentioned pre-match that I was Ricky. His initial reaction was ‘You are not!’. Then I pointed out that I live near Rickmansworth (known locally as Ricky) and he then very slowly broke into a smile, muttered some words that I cannot repeat on here, and we enjoyed a good laugh about it. In my defence, I was really pleased that Bow was liking my posts for what I was posting and not just because we sit next to one and other! I wanted him to have a go back if he did not agree with me. But at 67, I do not even have a Twitter account! I hope some of the ‘readers only’ on here bite the bullet and join in. It can be very quiet some days!
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Post by bowranger on Nov 4, 2020 19:47:48 GMT
Pure indoctrination is my excuse. Was being taken long before I had the capacity to make my own mind up!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 5, 2020 4:51:15 GMT
I sadly date right back to the mid/late 90's on the old Planet Site which was recognised by the club. I met Phil Qvist (Our South African mate) on there and John Nelson. then the club came out with their own official MB that was run by Jim Frayling and then Billy Rice. John aka Dodgy & I were made moderators on there. After the Great Brawl of China it started to deteriorate and then I lost my password and couldn't get back in and some other company was running it and wouldn't let me back in so I flagged it. Good thing because it got out of control from a much younger audience. And in the end, the club shut it down. There is a Facebook site for all the old MB Users and I've caught up with some old friends on there.
This suite started and then one of our members went off and formed his own one - WATRB - And they established their own Niche and we carried on.
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 9, 2020 10:19:47 GMT
Style you have reminded me of so many inactive posters. Recall Ingham would give these very long profound posts usually about economics. Mark who has gone to every home game before the Covid posts on my birthday annually. Thanks Mark, Haq has disappeared, thought he might have passed on but Maude who has left assured me that was wrong. Not much we can do but by posting this some may come back. We shall see. My pleasure London, glad to see your all good. Hi Andy, Mac and every one else, glad to see that you're all good as well in these strange times. I do miss the football but my two girls, now 7 & 5 years old, keep me busy enough and it has been great being able to spend more time with them on the weekends and not having to go to mid week away games in winter! Everyone stay safe and take care of each other and those around you.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 9, 2020 12:06:08 GMT
Thanks Mark, glad you are doing well and great to hear from you. London
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Post by stylecouncillor on Nov 9, 2020 15:36:26 GMT
Thanks Mark, glad you are doing well and great to hear from you. London You should be quite proud of your thread London, it got a few people to start posting. It also got updates and posts as above from some those we thought MIA and even a few posts as to why people are here not bad all .
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Post by londonranger on Nov 9, 2020 17:16:48 GMT
Style thanks for complement. More people have gone missing, two supervisors Baz, and Zed, who changed his name to Zamorrha after our late goal which put us in the Prem. Baz, I know was at that match at Wembley. Well will see what happens for future returnees.
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 9, 2020 18:43:30 GMT
I check in regularly but don’t post so often cos I find everything has been said already and I don’t really like posting just for the sake of it or to hear my own voice.
Haven’t seen Alfa on here in ages, he used to be a good read.
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