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Post by egranger on Oct 27, 2020 8:42:25 GMT
Looks a fair enough team I suspect Cameron will be playing - do we know how long Thomas will be out for? Let’s hope for three points against a team below us Starting with tonights game this is the starting team I would field given current injuries in a 4-5-1 formation Dieng Kakay Dickie Barbet Nico Ball Admoah Chair BOS Willock Dykes Not a bad line up. Defence looks good youthful with Barbet adding experience. Midfield - playing Ball instead of Cameron -noy much choice between teh 2 but give Cameron a rest with3 games a week. The others have skill pace and can switch positions and can push forward with Dykes holding up and laying off, especially if as I expect Barnsley will come on to us more than we have seen in he last 2 home games. Dykes the goal poacher just need the chances. Only questions: Are we settled and do we have the player currently with the confidence to produce that defence splitting ball instead of trying to walk the ball into the net and has confidence ebbed that heads will go down if we concede a goal. Interesting facts form Saturday. In his short spell on the pitch Willock had a 100% pass accuracy and the next best (again in his short time on eth pitch was Wallace with 93%. Everyone in the defence were well over 80% accuracy and worst was Bonne at about 70%. Our percentage of possession was high and we created enough chances but shots on target !!!!!!. Obvious where we need to improve and it only needs one piece of luck or skill to start a flow of goals as we saw last season. PS - Keep the manager
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Post by surreychad on Oct 27, 2020 11:20:35 GMT
I like that team, the opposition have been doubling up on BOS this year as they know the threat he poses, this measn he is being muted a bit but it doesn mean that Chair is getting more time on the ball he just needs to be a bit more effective with it.
Wins will come, we are not shipping as many goals as last season we just need get the goals for going. its a shame we lost Dykes for a couple of games as it will take him another couple to get in tune with the current team.
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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2020 19:50:47 GMT
This has aged well.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 27, 2020 20:06:59 GMT
Think based on the arguments being offered, the key thing of it not necessarily being wise to knock off a manager after you've just given him the summer window is just going to go away because we've had another crap game early in the season. Kinda the entire point.
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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2020 20:27:32 GMT
Think based on the arguments being offered, the key thing of it not necessarily being wise to knock off a manager after you've just given him the summer window is just going to go away because we've had another crap game early in the season. Kinda the entire point. More the everything will be alright feeling. After tonight fans en masse are going to be calling for change, whether you or I like it or not. Fans are turning on Bonne already and Charlton fans rubbing it in telling us we were fleeced as he’s nowhere near Championship standard doesn’t help. We’re bang knee deep in trouble, make absolutely no mistake about it. Whether you or I agree with it or not, at some point if these results and performances continue there is only one inevitable ending. And at this rate it’s getting harder to defend his position (pun intended, sadly).
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Post by bowranger on Oct 27, 2020 20:35:52 GMT
Think based on the arguments being offered, the key thing of it not necessarily being wise to knock off a manager after you've just given him the summer window is just going to go away because we've had another crap game early in the season. Kinda the entire point. More the everything will be alright feeling. After tonight fans en masse are going to be calling for change, whether you or I like it or not. Fans are turning on Bonne already and Charlton fans rubbing it in telling us we were fleeced as he’s nowhere near Championship standard doesn’t help. We’re bang knee deep in trouble, make absolutely no mistake about it. Whether you or I agree with it or not, at some point if these results and performances continue there is only one inevitable ending. And at this rate it’s getting harder to defend his position (pun intended, sadly). Think it is more nuanced than that at this point in the season, though coloured by being in the middle of a deeply crap performance and online fans being desperate to make a snide point out of it. Sure there will be clamouring (though not sure why we'd be arsed what Charlton fans online think about anything), there always is. But in the same way I'm not convinced we're going to piss the league when we string wins together, I'm not going to confidently have us down for league one either because football is more complicated and weird than that. But also acknowledge there's not much point chatting about it when everyone really just wants to vent and wallow.
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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2020 20:39:41 GMT
How do you genuinely see this changing, bowranger?
I ask in all sincerity.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 27, 2020 20:49:15 GMT
How do you genuinely see this changing, bowranger? I ask in all sincerity. I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying I know whether it's going to change or not or that I'm convinced we are going to be great or anything else. I'm saying that based on basic experience, we don't tend to be this crap forever and I choose not to be convinced of how the season is gonna pan out this early. Same way I didn't immediately assume we were nailed on relegated when we were getting humped 7-1 by West Brom or going six or seven unbeaten under Ollie and every time the same people to turn up to tell me we are terminally shit. To me it makes as much sense to say back, considering QPR playing crap and starting poorly is hardly news in our recent history, that why is now the time to start throwing out firm, convinced predictions? And why should I believe them? Every season since Warbs, Ollie and McClaren has been here some folk have told me we are nailed on to be relegated at this point in the season. Every time. Doesnt mean I think we are good or 100% not gonna go down, just think it's folly (and frankly, just too depressing), to think any of us really know.
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Post by powerpump on Oct 28, 2020 4:34:24 GMT
IMO assuming "the gaffer"has not lost the dressing room, he needs to be given a handful more games before deciding on a change or not...
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Post by harr on Oct 28, 2020 7:24:47 GMT
IMO assuming "the gaffer"has not lost the dressing room, he needs to be given a handful more games before deciding on a change or not... You would think not but maybe BOS and Manning situation hasn’t gone down to well ? We could have had more points if we stopped giving away soft penalties and Og’s all the time. To me we start games ok, give away a soft goal and then have no real penetration of getting goals back. some games barely having a shot at goal. We have lots of good midfielders but are they goal scorers that contribute regularly, I don’t think they are really. Dykes is our biggest threat up front and he had to sit out two games after playing the Scotland games which didn’t help. We could well be in the bottom three after one more game depending on tonight’s results. Its a very poor start to the season, when was the last time we won one from our first eight in the League. One win in nine if you include Plymouth. when was the last time we didn’t score in four consecutive games.
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Post by salts on Oct 28, 2020 12:43:31 GMT
Bonne, Willock, Thomas, Kakay, Dickie, Hamalainen, Dieng, Masterson, Chair, etc. - mostly young players with potential (as identified by scouting staff). It's up to the coaching staff to improve them. That's not going to happen in a month or two. It takes TIME. It may not not happen very much at all for some of them, but you just don't know until you've tried. Some excel quicker than expected (BOS). All need more time - especially as we can't improve the squad until January anyway.
More experienced, solid players are needed to hold the team together: Cameron (past his best?), Barbet, Wallace, Adomah, Dykes (solid rather than experienced), Ball, Amos (injured), Carroll. Are they capable of this? Possibly not, so therefore the main aim, yet again, is to stay up. Amos is a big loss. If they are capable of this then a top 10 finish/play-off challenge could be on the cards. This is where we are as a club at the moment and until we get a core of solid, experienced players to keep us in games, then that's where we will be for some time yet (unless we go down). If any of the youngsters start to excel as Eze and BOS have done then, combined a solid core, we can think about having a truly promising season. However, they won't stay with us for long unless we go up one year. Even then, we may not be able to hang on to them.
So, give the coaching staff and players some TIME between now and January at least to improve a bit as there is little alternative. Until then, the likes of Barbet, Wallace, Adomah, Cameron, Ball, Carroll, Dykes (to a lesser extent perhaps), need to produce solid, consistent performances. If they don't then too much will be needed from the youngsters, too soon.
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Post by londonranger on Oct 28, 2020 14:28:07 GMT
Keep calm and carry on is my motto,
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