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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Apr 18, 2018 17:35:09 GMT
Goalkeeper situation Needs sorting.
Probably need two centre backs with Hall becoming injury prone of late and Baptiste getting on.
Midfield is our strongest dept with probably any replacents coming in after sales of existing first teamers.
Now the forwards , back youth , Smith and can see Washington and Sylla moving on but Sylla is the head scratcher.
What’s others thoughts 💭?
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Post by bowranger on Apr 18, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
I think it'll be hard to tell until we start to see who we get offers for but agree CB is the key area. It's unlikely Ned and Robinson will both be here, Hall seems touch and go with injury problems and Baptiste was only really supposed to be a back up.
Up top, it's going to be a risk on our budget but I'd like a new striker if we could afford one. Smith has done alright this year but he does struggle across 90 minutes and that's only going to get worse. Midfield, pending some wild exodus, is pretty strong.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 18, 2018 18:52:57 GMT
Don't disagree with the above. Glut of stories about Manning moving on but nowhere is there an estimate of likely valuation. Luongo and Freeman also mentioned in speculative pieces. We cannot spend what we do not have thanks to FFP, so my guess is that one keeper and one midfielder will be used to generate funds for a new striker. We will sell the one for the most attractive cash bid. Washington and / or Sylla will also depart to raise transfer funds IMO. Perhaps Ned will stay, but it is a huge gap if he and Robinson depart (with Perch going as well). So, 2 central defender and a striker top of my list.
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Post by harr on Apr 18, 2018 18:59:56 GMT
Goalscorer and depending who stays or goes maybe 2-3 defenders. Keep Smith, offload Washington or Sylla .
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Post by harr on Apr 19, 2018 6:46:55 GMT
The question was where do we need to strengthen and the answers come down to sorting out the Goalkeeper situation - not sure that needs strengthening- and then straight back into who we should get rid of. Surprised Holloway has not been mentioned yet. Otherwise until we know who of the current squad will stay or go its pointless guessing. The obvious thing is that we need to score more and concede less - easy isn't it. The one certain thing is that we will not be in apposition to splash the cash to bring in 6 or 7 new players if the free agents walk away as I suspect they will. SO we will be dependent on the younger players developing quickly and some wise scouting and recruitment. I still cannot see why people want to offload Sylla. If the idea is to raise cash to buy forget it. A 10 goal a season stiker will set you back £10million these days and we would not get that much for Sylla and Washington combined. Anyway Sylla can score that many a season with ease if he is fit allowed on the pitch I would keep Sylla but I don’t think he is typically an IH sort of player, that’s why I see him going if we get anyone new. Washington gives his all , doesn’t score that many but probably is. Strikers are expensive but if you can get bargains from League 1 and 2. It’s always a gamble if they can step up or not.
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Post by terryb on Apr 19, 2018 9:05:30 GMT
This depends on what your expectations are.
IF we were to be in with a chance of making the play offs then we certainly would need to improve upfront. I can't give you any names, but hopefully our scouting staff have identified a player from the lower leagues that we could get for no more than £2 million. Even that amount may be too much for us unless we receive income for our current players.
The same applies to a new centre half to replace Robinson & perhaps another one for Ned.
Otherwise, I think it will be make do with what we have & reduce the size of our squad further.
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Post by sharky on Apr 19, 2018 14:03:15 GMT
A proven Championship striker would be good........ .......but before all and sundry tell me we can't afford such a person let me say I know we can't afford such a person, but I can dream!
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Post by hitmanrangers on Apr 19, 2018 19:12:18 GMT
I see the squad shaping up fairly well but will probably need to sell again to get in a few players and add some more balance to the squad (lack of wingers/centre backs), particularly if we want to spend a few bob on a goalscorer. I'd say we might cash in on Smithies (upto £5M) and possibly one of our many centre mids (Luougo, if he has a decent World Cup, could fetch £7-8M). Would probably take that if we can strengthen the strike force and get in a solid centre half
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Post by bowranger on Apr 20, 2018 7:47:28 GMT
I see the squad shaping up fairly well but will probably need to sell again to get in a few players and add some more balance to the squad (lack of wingers/centre backs), particularly if we want to spend a few bob on a goalscorer. I'd say we might cash in on Smithies (upto £5M) and possibly one of our many centre mids (Luougo, if he has a decent World Cup, could fetch £7-8M). Would probably take that if we can strengthen the strike force and get in a solid centre half It's an odd one because it feels like, if we did receive offers for the likes of Smithies and Luongo, we should be able to demand bigger figures than that but I guess wide knowledge of our financial pressures will drive prices down a bit. I guess it would depend on whether multiple clubs are interested in our players and there's a bit of a bid war. I know we'll still make a profit because we bought at relatively low prices but when you see the figures relatively average players have changed hands for between clubs where money is no object the last few seasons, I really hope the sales we inevitably have to make are for decent wedge.
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Post by harr on Apr 20, 2018 11:55:19 GMT
Out of the two I would rather sell Smithies for big bucks than Luongo. I feel we have more than adequate replacement for Smithies even though he is fantastic. The money would maybe give us a chance to get an out and our goalscorer.
We might lose a few pointsthrough the season in goal without of Smithiesthan if he had stayed but the points we would secure from a goalscorer would outweigh them in my opinion.
Luongo I would keep, difficult to replace unless an offer of 10 Million minimum.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 20, 2018 12:26:38 GMT
Out of the two I would rather sell Smithies for big bucks than Luongo. I feel we have more than adequate replacement for Smithies even though he is fantastic. The money would maybe give us a chance to get an out and our goalscorer. We might lose a few pointsthrough the season in goal without of Smithiesthan if he had stayed but the points we would secure from a goalscorer would outweigh them in my opinion. Luongo I would keep, difficult to replace unless an offer of 10 Million minimum. Pretty much agree, yeah. I love Smithies and think he's a fantastic keeper and have no interest in him leaving but I feel better about our goalkeeping options than I do about replacing Luongo. I know clubs will know we need money through the door but Luongo frequently tops the stats for interceptions despite being in a midtable side, is a regular international footballer, good age and has recently added goals to his game domestically. In today's game, that shouldn't come cheap.
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Post by harr on Apr 20, 2018 13:20:38 GMT
If he went for less than 10 Million I would be a little unhappy Bow. But I guess if the club needed the money and an 8 Million offer came in with add ons, , they would take it and I get that.
Anyhow, What do I know I , said Holloway would take us down Something I got totally wrong and put me hands up for saying it.
Glad we are still in this Division though, will be hoping we can get a bit higher up the table next year .
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Post by sharky on Apr 20, 2018 13:25:28 GMT
will be hoping we can get a bit higher up the table next year . If we sell our better players and replace with unproven younger ones why would we higher up the table next year? I personally see us struggling to stay in the Championship with Luongo, Smithies, Robinson and Ned gone and replaced by "youngsters"!
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Post by harr on Apr 20, 2018 14:20:45 GMT
will be hoping we can get a bit higher up the table next year . If we sell our better players and replace with unproven younger ones why would we higher up the table next year? I personally see us struggling to stay in the Championship with Luongo, Smithies, Robinson and Ned gone and replaced by "youngsters"! I don’t think we are going to lose all those four Sharky, would be very surprised if lost more than two of them. There’s always lots of talk about players going but most times it comes to nothing. We went through all last window without Selling Smithies so I would say there’s a strong chance that happens again.
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Post by marshbowles10 on Apr 20, 2018 15:47:23 GMT
I think some of the figures that we think our players are worth such as Luongo are alas misplaced.
This is QPR we are talking about here and everyone knows just how cash strapped we are.
Plus it's more about the players and the agents back pockets where much of the fees seem to disappear.
How much did we get for Charlie Austin?
How much did we pay for Washington?
The above 2 are still cannot believe as if m,y memory is correct they were almost identical.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 20, 2018 16:44:54 GMT
Tend to agree that the net receipts from some of our potential sales may be a disappointment. One newspaper last week suggested that Manning's value was circa £225k. After fees and other deductions it is hard to see how that will help our FFP plight. I think he has to be worth a lot more than that though - especially to us! That is why I think it will come down to looking at what bids we receive and opting for the one that generates the most cashflow.
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Post by Marc on Apr 20, 2018 17:36:28 GMT
I think some of the figures that we think our players are worth such as Luongo are alas misplaced. This is QPR we are talking about here and everyone knows just how cash strapped we are. Plus it's more about the players and the agents back pockets where much of the fees seem to disappear. How much did we get for Charlie Austin? How much did we pay for Washington? The above 2 are still cannot believe as if m,y memory is correct they were almost identical. We got £4m for Austin IIRC, we paid around £2.5m for Washington So no, not identical, not even almost. We only got £4m for Austin as there was less than 6 months left of his contract. It was either that or let him go for free that summer. Yes, it sucked but no-one was willing to pay the £12m he was valued at the previous summer and certainly not a club that he wanted to go to. Washington was banging them in for fun for Peterborough at the time so the fee wasn't seen as particularly high.
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Post by Roller on Apr 20, 2018 19:17:20 GMT
If we sell our better players and replace with unproven younger ones why would we higher up the table next year? I personally see us struggling to stay in the Championship with Luongo, Smithies, Robinson and Ned gone and replaced by "youngsters"! I don’t think we are going to lose all those four Sharky, would be very surprised if lost more than two of them. There’s always lots of talk about players going but most times it comes to nothing. We went through all last window without Selling Smithies so I would say there’s a strong chance that happens again. I don't expect to see either Ned nor Robinson next season, but have every expectation of seeing Mass and Alex. No other club seems to rate Smithies as highly as we do and, as much as I like Luongo, there are better and more consistent players out there. I think we need to bear in mind that we are not the only club with FFP woes in this division and I suspect that neither are destined to play at a higher level unless they win promotion with us.
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Apr 21, 2018 11:56:49 GMT
Is jack Marriott out of our budget? .. looks to have all the qualities needed for championship.
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