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Post by sharky on Jul 18, 2017 14:02:31 GMT
From getwestlondon. Ollie speaking in riddles! www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/qpr-boss-ian-holloway-says-13348683QPR boss Ian Holloway says fans don't know that 'the bomb has gone off' behind the scenes at Loftus RoadThe club have put a focus on integrating young talent into their senior squad, and Holloway says that it's vital these prospects are supported due to matters out of the control of the club. BY PHIL SPENCER 13:44, 18 JUL 2017 QPR manager Ian Holloway has said that fans won't be aware that "the bomb has gone off" behind the scenes, and has urged them to support the team as the new season beckons. The club have put a focus on integrating young talent into their senior squad, and Holloway says that it's vital these prospects are supported due to matters out of the control of the club. He said: "Our fans have to help me with the young ones who are coming in. It’s about getting us moving the right way. "Unfortunately what’s happened before has resulted in what i’m left with. The bomb has gone off, the fans might not know that, but it’s gone off and i’m still holding it, so at the moment we can’t do what our owners would want us to do. "I’m not moaning about it because we’ve got some really good transfer targets, but please be patient and i’m going to work at being as good as we possibly can."
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 18, 2017 14:08:47 GMT
Sure is interesting!
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Post by londonranger on Jul 18, 2017 14:35:01 GMT
Pardon my stupidity, This bomb/ is it FFP or an unexploded bomb from WW2 or something else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:12:57 GMT
Full of ball again..............
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Post by scarletpimple on Jul 18, 2017 16:26:07 GMT
WTF is he on about now. ??
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 18, 2017 16:41:26 GMT
I don't even think he knows!!
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Post by dan on Jul 18, 2017 17:06:27 GMT
he's found his old vynil copy of the Gap Band?
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Post by rousdonhoop on Jul 18, 2017 18:07:08 GMT
it's increased the traffic on QPR forums 10 fold
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Post by Marc on Jul 18, 2017 18:21:39 GMT
It's just an Ollieism, no need to analyse it.
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Post by harr on Jul 18, 2017 18:23:22 GMT
Is he getting the excuses in early then
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Post by blatantfowl on Jul 18, 2017 22:24:45 GMT
Yes it's true. A bomb went off but we got away lightly. The only injury was Jamie Mackie who turned his head slightly to see what the commotion was and ruptured himself. He's out for the season.
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Post by harr on Jul 19, 2017 8:17:11 GMT
Probably this. (On the other hand this could just be Ollie bleating that he cannot spend money on his targets now because of the mistakes of the past)
I would imagine if anything had happened it would get leaked, someone would get a whisper somewhere and it would come out. My guess is its all still pending.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 19, 2017 10:23:11 GMT
Gardening Leave forthcoming??
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Post by harr on Jul 19, 2017 19:07:53 GMT
Dave Mc saying FFP delayed to August
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Post by harr on Jul 19, 2017 19:22:56 GMT
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 20, 2017 10:36:11 GMT
Maybe they are waiting to see a brown envelope to show up before they proceed on how heavy to whack the club. Some things at Fifa will never change, nor the stain of Sepp
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Post by sharky on Jul 21, 2017 15:50:37 GMT
From getwestlondon Ollie clarifies his 'bomb' comment www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/queens-park-rangers-boss-moves-13367433Queens Park Rangers boss moves to clarify 'the bomb has gone off' comments by admitting 'I'm here to tidy the mess up'Ian Holloway explains what he meant by his comments about previous years BY LEE WILMOT 15:47, 21 JUL 2017 UPDATED 15:56, 21 JUL 2017 There was a lot of chatter following QPR boss Ian Holloway's comments after the Peterborough United friendly at the weekend. The Rs boss admitted that the Hoops fans were probably unaware that "the bomb has gone off" behind the scenes, saying that what had happened before at the club was holding them back now. And with a Financial Fair Play hearing still to be resolved, fans questioned if his quotes had something to do with an impending announcement. QPR boss Ian Holloway says fans don't know that 'the bomb has gone off' behind the scenes at Loftus Road But Holloway has moved to clarify his comments. He said: "I said the bomb has already gone off, in reference to the money that has been spent in the last few years by the club. "The club have spent an astronomical amount of money but we didn't have great success in return for that incredible outlay. THAT was the bomb. "I knew that before I came here. This isn't new, this isn't about now. That bomb went off a couple of years ago! "I am here to tidy things up, and help my owners get value for money from everyone we've got, and whoever we might get. "What we want to do is make this club sustainable. So I need the fans, more than anybody, to be patient, to trust me and to see what we are all trying to do here. "The owners are trying their best, but we have to do things the right way, making sensible, clever buys."
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Post by harr on Jul 21, 2017 16:20:03 GMT
Zzzzzzzzzz Tell us something we didnt know next time. No different to what JFH had.
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Post by terryb on Jul 22, 2017 8:54:14 GMT
No argument from me 57.
The explanation would appear to me to be worse than the orighinal quote about the "bomb"!
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 22, 2017 9:50:02 GMT
I remember in his first stint, people were tired of Holloway quotes (incl me although ia didnt want him gone)
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Post by Roller on Jul 22, 2017 11:10:17 GMT
I don't know. I think this is the usual storm in a teacup. According to West London Sport (who are far more reliable than Get West London), what Ollie actually said is www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/patient-holloway-assures-qpr-fans-signings-waySections of that were taken out of context to generate clicks for a website to increase their advertising revenue; as ever it worked. It seems to me that swathes of QPR supporters always want to believe the worst of every situation and have perfected the art of overreaction. Perhaps Ollie should know better than to use evocative language, but we should also know to take it with a pinch of salt. Personally, I'd rather have him than someone who just trots out standard answers to standard questions. As for the "Our fans might not know that" line, I'm told by those who inhabit the twitter and facebook realms, there are plenty out there who don't. Unfortunately saying nothing is not an option, and whatever anyone associated with QPR says is wrong in some eyes, it is not a good mix, he cannot win.
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Post by Roller on Jul 22, 2017 17:29:35 GMT
In my opinion, if we were under a transfer embargo it would be announced. None of the other transfer embargoes imposed by the FFP guardians have come in under the radar, and while neither the authorities nor club can discuss the case while it is in progress, there will be no shortage of announcements when it is finally resolved. As such I didn't ever think this was related to any FFP sanctions.
I'd agree that it is unclear, but Ollie is a slightly eccentric football manager, not Cicero. I simply took it as another confirmation that we have to free up budget to spend, and we need to bear in mind that our parachute payments have dropped this season, but then I always err on looking on the positive side.
I'd hate it if every thing Ollie said had to be approved by the media department and all we ever heard was anodyne, bland comments.
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Post by kerrins on Jul 30, 2017 10:09:54 GMT
57 Varieties. You make an excellent point about about fans "not being aware" in an earlier post on this thread.
I for one have always been fully aware of the vast amount of dud players we have put on the books under Ramsey JFH and Ollie since our relegation from the premiership and have often said so. Its still going on now!
Yes there are problems with FFP and financial restrictions etc etc. All fans are "aware" of that... but we MUST improve on our woeful transfer strategy.
Bringing through some of our good young players Eze and Manning(Pity we lost Bowler to Everton) is a good idea.
In the circumstances the original bomb has gone off comment was not very wise. It would have been better to have said nothing and just get on with trying to halt this 2 year spiral of decline...and above all STOP signing cr*p championship players.
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Post by harr on Jul 31, 2017 8:40:40 GMT
(Holloway said: “If you look at Newcastle away last season compared to Newcastle at home, how many of them kept going? That’s all I’m asking for. All I ever ask for is for us to keep going)
Ollie comparing his performance against JFH between the Newcastle results. He is deluded. What about the 6 straight defeats and another 7 from 8. So they kept going in those 13 defeats did they. Also the fact that in all the games he had he still averaged less than Jimmy, ie his 1 point a game average, basically Jimmys extra points kept us up, should remember that Ian
Im not saying its easy under our constraints etcbut dont use this as an example, its dribble.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jul 31, 2017 10:31:10 GMT
Ollie comparing his performance against JFH between the Newcastle results. He is deluded. Agreed - complete b*ll*cks of course. It's just managerial 'spin', talking up the team and himself. But then, realistically, it's to be expected. Just look at the flak Moyes got when he said they'd be in a relegation fight at the beginning of last season. Those words haunted him all year, and were very much held against him by the fans - and probably the team. Oh, and another bit of Ollie spin regarding Caulker's return to first team training: "I’m delighted to have him back. That is a potential England centre-half." Again, complete b*lls - he's just trying to talk the price up with Celtic sniffing... And why not!?
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Post by bowranger on Jul 31, 2017 11:16:30 GMT
Ollie comparing his performance against JFH between the Newcastle results. He is deluded. Agreed - complete b*ll*cks of course. It's just managerial 'spin', talking up the team and himself. But then, realistically, it's to be expected. Just look at the flak Moyes got when he said they'd be in a relegation fight at the beginning of last season. Those words haunted him all year, and were very much held against him by the fans - and probably the team. Oh, and another bit of Ollie spin regarding Caulker's return to first team training: "I’m delighted to have him back. That is a potential England centre-half." Again, complete b*lls - he's just trying to talk the price up with Celtic sniffing... And why not!? Yeah, I agree. Ollie often talks a load of excitable crap really. But he's also seen the 'game' from both sides with both his Sky job and his role as a football manager. All the passion, run through brick walls, "couldn't ask for more" stuff is great PR spin because it's unquantifiable. It's like the "hardest pre-season ever" crap we get every single year and other clubs do the same. What's the two most reliable things to please a lot of football fans? They want them to care and kiss the badge (Jamie Mackie having a poor game will be treated twice as well as Connor Washington having a bad game) and they think players are pampered and treated too well (make 'em work hard, suffer, earn their corn). Effort is ambiguous - you can't prove it (beyond like...Bosingwa and BAE, say...), results are binary. We don't know what goes on in training, we don't know which players really, truly care and who doesn't. You promise to win games and attack and you're creating your own gallows in football management. I actually have a far bit of sympathy for it because these days the manager always carries the can - not the players, not the boardroom, always the manager. Shorter shelf-life than ever before so you'll probably use spin to keep you in the job and why not? ...And let's be honest, no matter what he says, a lot of us are always going to find a massive problem with it right?
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Post by harr on Jul 31, 2017 11:25:40 GMT
Ollie comparing his performance against JFH between the Newcastle results. He is deluded. Agreed - complete b*ll*cks of course. It's just managerial 'spin', talking up the team and himself. But then, realistically, it's to be expected. Just look at the flak Moyes got when he said they'd be in a relegation fight at the beginning of last season. Those words haunted him all year, and were very much held against him by the fans - and probably the team. Oh, and another bit of Ollie spin regarding Caulker's return to first team training: "I’m delighted to have him back. That is a potential England centre-half." Again, complete b*lls - he's just trying to talk the price up with Celtic sniffing... And why not!? Yeah I think you right re Caulker. England centre half potential possibly but his attitude has been terrible and put the Clubs name through it. How many times has been invloved with police now, is that 4. Once, I can forgive maybe twice but 3-4 times. Going to need to see a hell of alot of good performances to ever make me change my mind sorry. Oh well another July signing (Caulker back)then possibly to go with Borysuik. EL Khayati and JET then we have all our five summer signings, there breaking them gently to us
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Post by harr on Aug 1, 2017 12:04:32 GMT
Personally I blame that Hill. The Hill that relegated Millwall. Lets hope for a speedy return
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 1, 2017 16:14:26 GMT
What would we do without Ollie bless him. Road running up a hill in Portugal is ok but training on a hard grass pitch causes tendonitis !!!!!! and we cannot water the training pitch because we do not own it. Add this to the list of Ollie classics. Someone could publish a brilliant best seller of a book "The World According to Ollie" . Put my name down for an autographed copy - I could do with a good laugh. I think Ollie could be walking a precarious line at the moment. In the past he has fired up and motivated players with passion, drive and some creative ideas - remember Dan shitetu* and the boys training with the Royal Ballet? It got Palace and Blackpool promoted to the Prem, and us to the Championship. He got 'average' teams performing above expectation and players bought into his philosophy and enthusiasm. But after a meltdown at Palace, a wobble at Millwall and last season's erratic results, there's definitely a big chink in his charismatic 'armour'. It's no longer the cure-all it was, and I think he's only one bad run away from coming under very severe scrutiny by fans (certainly) and management (probably). If we start stumbling, players could so easily lose faith in the manager's methods. And far from being the 'Mr Motivator', inspirational guru, Ollie could start to sound just a bit cranky, not to say barking. Let's hope we get a decent start to the season and everyone gets fired up by his infectious positivity and enthusiasm. I'm just worried it may not be as fresh and as convincing as it used to be... *The system won't let me type in his real name, Shi ...ttu
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