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Post by bp on May 19, 2017 9:23:26 GMT
Well it was always a bit of a pipe dream. Old Oak
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Post by bp on May 19, 2017 9:24:43 GMT
Cargiant is having a school and new homes as part of it.
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Post by kewgreen on May 20, 2017 17:59:34 GMT
If Old Oak was a dream, the Christie stadium becomes a nightmare.
A second rate location which that is, befits a second rate Club, we must lobby against any thoughts of moving there
If Old Oak is out of the question then Loftus Road is where we stay.
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Post by Roller on May 20, 2017 19:29:03 GMT
Well it was always a bit of a pipe dream. Old OakThanks for the update Bill. The club seemed pretty resigned to losing Old Oak at the last consultation meeting, but obviously couldn't say so. The Linford Christie site was still very much still in a feasibility study stage. I wonder at what stage they start looking further afield.
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Post by dan on May 21, 2017 0:11:16 GMT
I'm a history teacher by day, so a "new" stadium would never be better than tradition in my opinion. I do understand the economics behind new stadiums, but can't we just slowly renovate stands one section at a time? It's done here with American football stadiums all the time at the college level. It can be done. Is an entirely new site really necessary?
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Post by Bushman on May 21, 2017 9:59:59 GMT
Well it was always a bit of a pipe dream. Old OakThanks for the update Bill. The club seemed pretty resigned to losing Old Oak at the last consultation meeting, but obviously couldn't say so. The Linford Christie site was still very much still in a feasibility study stage. I wonder at what stage they start looking further afield.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on May 21, 2017 13:15:41 GMT
Is an entirely new site really necessary? I think if you're over 5' tall, then yes - my knees can't take it any more!
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Post by dan on May 23, 2017 1:50:28 GMT
I think if you're over 5' tall, then yes - my knees can't take it any more! [ That's understandable, but still could be done one section at a time.
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Post by Macmoish on May 23, 2017 7:35:36 GMT
Or even if QPR had to move out for a yr or to...If Loftus Road was torn down and rebuilt, with all the limitations on size because of neighbours, what's the best that could be built on the current site?
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Post by sharky on May 23, 2017 23:03:38 GMT
Or even if QPR had to move out for a yr or to...If Loftus Road was torn down and rebuilt, with all the limitations on size because of neighbours, what's the best that could be built on the current site? Maximum of about 10,000 I'd recon.
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Post by dan on May 24, 2017 2:36:58 GMT
Or even if QPR had to move out for a yr or to...If Loftus Road was torn down and rebuilt, with all the limitations on size because of neighbours, what's the best that could be built on the current site? Maximum of about 10,000 I'd recon. I've seen much more seating put in much tighter quarters. That being said, much of the upper deck would be quite a ways away from the action and if one leans too far forward, you feel like you may fall straight down on to the pitch. What is the target as far as seating, if I may ask? Any numbers thrown out there?
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on May 24, 2017 13:32:48 GMT
Maximum of about 10,000 I'd recon. I've seen much more seating put in much tighter quarters. That being said, much of the upper deck would be quite a ways away from the action and if one leans too far forward, you feel like you may fall straight down on to the pitch. What is the target as far as seating, if I may ask? Any numbers thrown out there? I think Hoos said 30,000 was the target.
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Post by dan on May 25, 2017 1:02:49 GMT
I think Hoos said 30,000 was the target. That sounds ideal. Thanks!
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 25, 2017 6:21:50 GMT
Bring back terracing and solve a lot of problems!!
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Post by Macmoish on May 25, 2017 7:17:36 GMT
How many times over the past 60 years - besides the early 1960s actual (short-live) move to the White City, have QPR talked about moving, sharing, etc Stadium? I remember it being discussed so many times
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Post by bowranger on May 25, 2017 9:25:41 GMT
Bring back terracing and solve a lot of problems!! Definitely. People who want to stand can without being harassed. Improves atmosphere. Frees up space for people who don't want to stand whilst not having their views restricted. Yes please. Unless anything has changed, Fernandes has said that he has no issue in principle with safe standing at matches (and said it would be a consideration in a new stadium if allowed) but I know as a Club we haven't endorsed it.?
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Post by NO1QPRNZ on May 25, 2017 10:14:20 GMT
we should and should have been buying Houses and sections around Loftus Rd over the Years to re build Loftus Rd
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Post by nomar on May 25, 2017 13:03:55 GMT
I don't think there is any room at Loftus Road to extend the stadium.
I'm sure TF said that due to the location you can't build out as theres nowhere to go and you can't build up because you need the width, that you can't get because theres residential properties in the way, to support a taller structure.
I haven't been for years but the reality is that, however nostalgic it may be, LR is an awfully antiquated stadium that is totally unfit for modern sports watching. Its actually a bit embarrassing too, imo.
Much smaller clubs than us have stadiums that are better and offer their paying patrons a proper spectator experience.
Loftus Road is like walking around with a Motorola 8000X when everyone else has an iPhone 6.
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Post by blatantfowl on May 25, 2017 13:25:16 GMT
I'm a history teacher by day, so a "new" stadium would never be better than tradition in my opinion. I do understand the economics behind new stadiums, but can't we just slowly renovate stands one section at a time? It's done here with American football stadiums all the time at the college level. It can be done. Is an entirely new site really necessary? But if you like history you'll also know that our origins are nomadic
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Post by Roller on May 25, 2017 19:56:56 GMT
I don't think there is any room at Loftus Road to extend the stadium. I'm sure TF said that due to the location you can't build out as theres nowhere to go and you can't build up because you need the width, that you can't get because theres residential properties in the way, to support a taller structure. I haven't been for years but the reality is that, however nostalgic it may be, LR is an awfully antiquated stadium that is totally unfit for modern sports watching. Its actually a bit embarrassing too, imo. Much smaller clubs than us have stadiums that are better and offer their paying patrons a proper spectator experience. Loftus Road is like walking around with a Motorola 8000X when everyone else has an iPhone 6. It is worse than that, Loftus Road wouldn't pass any modern safety regulations. There aren't enough exits and the concourses couldn't cope with more people. Do people really think that the club haven't looked at this option over the years?
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Post by Roller on May 25, 2017 19:58:44 GMT
we should and should have been buying Houses and sections around Loftus Rd over the Years to re build Loftus Rd I bet that they'd cost a fair bit more than we sold them for......
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Post by Bushman on May 25, 2017 21:30:50 GMT
we should and should have been buying Houses and sections around Loftus Rd over the Years to re build Loftus Rd I bet that they'd cost a fair bit more than we sold them for...... £40M for Loftus Rd and £25M for Ellerslie Rd properties and no profit for the Malaysians to be made!
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Post by kewgreen on Dec 9, 2017 22:52:54 GMT
When Old Oak was suggested a full consultation was made with the supporters, right down to the size, shape and atmosphere replicating Loftus Road, we were keep fully in the picture. Suddenly we were told discussions with people in the Linford Christy area including residents, local community groups and the athletics club on how they felt about us pumping millions into their club and the area, who wouldn't welcome that with open arms, but where was the discussion with the Rangers supporters about this. Why is the Linford Christy Stadium a run down wasteland, it's because it's in the middle of nowhere and difficult to access, so no one goes there. Old Oak has transport connections every club in the world would die for, Overground from all over London, Bakerloo Underground, Crossrail and proposed HS2, it's a no brainer, what does LC have, an infrequent bus route and an Underground station a long sclep away, forget it, never a situation to draw in an increase of casual or new supporters to fill the ground, that's what a new stadium is designed to do, so forget it TF it's not on. This week TF and Amit have been smussing with Mayor of London, Amit Khan in India, if they haven't been bending his ear about Old Oak then they're not doing their job. Staying put in Loftus Road is by far better than the backwater of Wormwood Shrubs, but keep fighting for Old Oak.
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Post by nomar on Dec 10, 2017 12:23:49 GMT
Car Giant is already an incumbent on the land and wants to stay there, plus they put their own proposals for development of the land.
I don’t think QPR can do much about it unless Car Giant chooses to sell up though?
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Post by londonranger on Dec 10, 2017 16:23:45 GMT
Seems as though our team is inadequate, our Grounds are inadequate, our money has dried up.Then we should tear Loftus Rd down and play on the grass, as we quickly slide down to the Conference.
I remember sitting on the grass at Vicarage Rd watching Watford, decades ago. Look where they are now.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 10, 2017 17:12:04 GMT
Well it was always a bit of a pipe dream. Old OakThanks for the update Bill. The club seemed pretty resigned to losing Old Oak at the last consultation meeting, but obviously couldn't say so. The Linford Christie site was still very much still in a feasibility study stage. I wonder at what stage they start looking further afield. hmmm, Queens Park Keyenes? Maccas Dons for a "Derby" game?
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Post by kewgreen on Dec 13, 2017 19:57:00 GMT
Yet another London Club, Wimbledon, has been granted planning permission to build a new stadium, permission given by Sadiq Khan, London Mayor, although as the MP for the area covering Plough Lane he opposed it, times change, so what are we doing to enhance our plans for Old Oak
When Old Oak was suggested a full consultation was carried with the supporters, right down to the size, shape and atmosphere replicating Loftus Road, we were kept fully in the picture. Then out of the blue we were told discussions with people in the Linford Christy area including residents, local community groups and the athletics club on how they felt about us pumping millions into their club and the area, who wouldn't welcome that with open arms, but where was the discussion with the Rangers supporters about this. Why is the Linford Christy Stadium a run down wasteland, it's because it's in the middle of nowhere and difficult to access, so no one goes there. Old Oak has transport connections every club in the world would die for, Overground links to Willesden Junction from all over London, Bakerloo Underground, Crossrail and the proposed HS2, to access Old Oak it's a no brainer, but what does the LC have, an infrequent bus route and an Underground station a long sclep away, forget it, never a place to draw in the necessary increase of casual or new supporters to fill the ground, that's especially what the new stadium is designed to do, so forget it TF it's not on. This week TF and Amit have been smussing with Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan in India, if they haven't been bending his ear about our development of Old Oak then they're not doing their job. Staying put in Loftus Road is by far better than the backwater of Wormwood Shrubs, but keep fighting for Old Oak, I’m sure the Mayor wouldn’t want to support a business selling cheap cars contributing to pouring carbon into the London air, he says he’s against it, let’s see.
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Post by sharky on Dec 14, 2017 11:29:58 GMT
Yet another London Club, Wimbledon, has been granted planning permission to build a new stadium, permission given by Sadiq Khan, London Mayor, although as the MP for the area covering Plough Lane he opposed it, times change, so what are we doing to enhance our plans for Old Oak When Old Oak was suggested a full consultation was carried with the supporters, right down to the size, shape and atmosphere replicating Loftus Road, we were kept fully in the picture. Then out of the blue we were told discussions with people in the Linford Christy area including residents, local community groups and the athletics club on how they felt about us pumping millions into their club and the area, who wouldn't welcome that with open arms, but where was the discussion with the Rangers supporters about this. Why is the Linford Christy Stadium a run down wasteland, it's because it's in the middle of nowhere and difficult to access, so no one goes there. Old Oak has transport connections every club in the world would die for, Overground links to Willesden Junction from all over London, Bakerloo Underground, Crossrail and the proposed HS2, to access Old Oak it's a no brainer, but what does the LC have, an infrequent bus route and an Underground station a long sclep away, forget it, never a place to draw in the necessary increase of casual or new supporters to fill the ground, that's especially what the new stadium is designed to do, so forget it TF it's not on. This week TF and Amit have been smussing with Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan in India, if they haven't been bending his ear about our development of Old Oak then they're not doing their job. Staying put in Loftus Road is by far better than the backwater of Wormwood Shrubs, but keep fighting for Old Oak, I’m sure the Mayor wouldn’t want to support a business selling cheap cars contributing to pouring carbon into the London air, he says he’s against it, let’s see. kewgreen look at the Old Oak boost thread which I thinks shows that the plan is still to build a new stadium at Old Oak
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 5, 2018 12:00:46 GMT
TF quoted in the Evening Standard today, asking for government funds to build a bridge over the new rail development:
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