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Post by Roller on Feb 9, 2017 6:14:56 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 9, 2017 8:02:49 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 9, 2017 8:11:39 GMT
QPR Statement HOOS RESPONDS TO STADIUM SPECULATION image: www.qpr.co.uk/cms_images/crest-wallpaper-64064-3118751_613x460.jpgPUBLISHED 07:00 9th February 2017 by @qprfc QPR CEO provides update in wake of media report … RESPONDING to a report in today’s press that QPR are exploring the possibility of a new stadium on the site of the Linford Christie Stadium, QPR Chief Executive Lee Hoos has spoken exclusively to www.qpr.co.uk. “We are looking at all possible options to secure the future of the club in Hammersmith & Fulham and benefit the community,” he said. "A potential partnership with an athletics club such as Thames Valley Harriers to create a new community stadium - and an adjacent athletics track - could bring huge benefits to both clubs, as well as to the local community that is our home. "Before putting forward any formal proposal for a new community stadium we would consult fans, local residents, schools, charities and others to see how best we could achieve those aims.” The idea is at a very early stage with much work to do before any proposal is brought forward. Any new proposal - if it were to go ahead - would involve significant consultation with fans about all aspects of the stadium. QPR have previously announced plans for a stadium at Old Oak, but land acquisition and wider problems with the Old Oak regeneration, which has been described as ‘a mess’ by Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, have forced the club to consider possible alternative sites. www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-new-stadium-ceo-lee-hoos-linford-christie-stadium-3564981.aspx#O5BHU2BMCLqD4JYO.99
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Post by Bushman on Feb 9, 2017 10:40:33 GMT
The club have known about this for years.
Wormwood Scrubs is owned by MoD
The Wormwood Scrubs 1879 Act The Act gives rights and authority to the public, the Army and the Metropolitan Board of Works and its successors. The public's right to enjoy Wormwood Scrubs is protected in perpertuity - it may not be taken back wholesale by the military or sold unless the area "ceases to be used by the citizens of London".[1] In the same vein, the Act bans military training on public holidays. The Metropolitan Board of Works was given the authority to pass by-laws over the area, while the Army can prohibit entry by civilians on pain of fines or imprisonment during periods of military training.
The Act remains in force today. The successor body to the Metropolitan Board of Works in acting as civilian trustees of Wormwood Scrubs are the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. The Ministry of Defence has replaced the War Office.
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Post by sharky on Feb 9, 2017 11:18:02 GMT
The club have known about this for years. Wormwood Scrubs is owned by MoD The Wormwood Scrubs 1879 Act The Act gives rights and authority to the public, the Army and the Metropolitan Board of Works and its successors. The public's right to enjoy Wormwood Scrubs is protected in perpertuity - it may not be taken back wholesale by the military or sold unless the area "ceases to be used by the citizens of London".[1] In the same vein, the Act bans military training on public holidays. The Metropolitan Board of Works was given the authority to pass by-laws over the area, while the Army can prohibit entry by civilians on pain of fines or imprisonment during periods of military training. The Act remains in force today. The successor body to the Metropolitan Board of Works in acting as civilian trustees of Wormwood Scrubs are the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. The Ministry of Defence has replaced the War Office. Bushie I assume you're saying that either it can't go ahead or it will need some sort of central government approval in addition to any local govt approval.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Feb 9, 2017 11:26:49 GMT
I remember when the track was being built, and running on it myself (when I was young fit and fast)... You must have made an impression 57 - on Google maps...
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Post by Bushman on Feb 9, 2017 11:58:38 GMT
The club have known about this for years. Wormwood Scrubs is owned by MoD The Wormwood Scrubs 1879 Act The Act gives rights and authority to the public, the Army and the Metropolitan Board of Works and its successors. The public's right to enjoy Wormwood Scrubs is protected in perpertuity - it may not be taken back wholesale by the military or sold unless the area "ceases to be used by the citizens of London".[1] In the same vein, the Act bans military training on public holidays. The Metropolitan Board of Works was given the authority to pass by-laws over the area, while the Army can prohibit entry by civilians on pain of fines or imprisonment during periods of military training. The Act remains in force today. The successor body to the Metropolitan Board of Works in acting as civilian trustees of Wormwood Scrubs are the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. The Ministry of Defence has replaced the War Office. Bushie I assume you're saying that either it can't go ahead or it will need some sort of central government approval in addition to any local govt approval. Smoke and mirrors by the club mate.
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Post by sharky on Feb 9, 2017 12:13:22 GMT
gotya!
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Post by sharky on Feb 9, 2017 12:17:00 GMT
Not sure how you'd get 30,000 into this stadium?
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Post by Bushman on Feb 9, 2017 13:41:17 GMT
That stand was more than big enough for everyone when I was running there - and from memory it looks like the same one with the same loudspeakers on the roof. Thanks for giving the photographic proof of my secret history Bushman Glad to see my old school playing field is still there (directly between the Christie stadium and Ducane Road) even though the school is long gone. Now with that bit of land and the track land together you could build a bit more than a 30k stadium!. Interesting about the ownership of the scrubs though. The number of times I had to run cross country races twice around the perimeter in the cold and rain and never knew it was MOD owned, but 1879 was just before my time..... Rusty Anchor boy. 1879 sounds about right 57 ;-)
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Post by sharky on Feb 9, 2017 13:49:31 GMT
From the Evening Standard www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/qpr-in-talks-over-new-30000seat-stadium-a-mile-from-loftus-road-a3462671.htmlQPR in talks over new 30,000-seat stadium a mile from Loftus RoadSIMON JOHNSON 9 hours ago QPR chief executive Lee Hoos today confirmed the club are considering developing a new ground at the Linford Christie Stadium — just one mile from their current home. The Championship club are looking at new sites, having given up on their plan to build a 40,000 all-seat stadium at nearby Old Oak Common. QPR have held informal discussions with Hammersmith & Fulham Council over the possibility of knocking down Linford Christie Stadium, the base for Thames Valley Harriers athletics club. Hoos said: “We are looking at all possible options to secure the future of the club in Hammersmith and Fulham and benefit the community. “A potential partnership with an athletics club such as Thames Valley Harriers to create a new community stadium — and an adjacent athletics track — could bring huge benefits to both clubs, as well as to the local community that is our home. “Before putting forward any formal proposal for a new community stadium, we would consult fans, local residents, schools, charities and others to see how best we could achieve those aims.” The new stadium would hold 30,000 supporters, while Loftus Road has a capacity of just 18,238. Hammersmith & Fulham Council is keen to keep the club in the borough and it is open to any ideas for the Linford Christie Stadium. The idea is still in its infancy, though, and Rangers will now have to come up with some official plans for the project. It will not be easy because the site is opposite Hammersmith Hospital and there are question marks over whether the club will have to buy or lease the land from the council. They will also have to come up with an agreeable plan with the council for Loftus Road, which is likely to be sold for property redevelopment. It is believed that QPR owners Tony Fernandes and Lakshmi Mittal will provide a lot of the funding for a switch to Linford Christie Stadium, which will cost less than the original scheme at Old Oak Common. Rangers had to shelve a move there because of fierce opposition from Cargiant, which owns the land upon which the club wanted to build. Cargiant has plans to regenerate the venue, including creating 6,500 new homes and 8,000 jobs.
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Post by sharky on Feb 9, 2017 13:55:05 GMT
....and also from the Evening Standard www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/linford-christie-backs-plans-to-tear-down-athletics-ground-to-make-way-for-qpr-s-new-30000seater-a3462751.htmlLinford Christie backs plans to tear down athletics ground to make way for QPR’s new 30,000-seater stadiumJONATHAN PRYNN 8 hours ago0 comments Olympic great Linford Christie has backed plans to tear down the “dilapidated” athletics stadium that bears his name and replace it with a new facility as part of a move for QPR. The football club is in talks on building a 30,000-seat ground on the site of Linford Christie Stadium — home to the Thames Valley Harriers — near Wormwood Scrubs. The plans involve a new athletics venue next to the football stadium with a shared building between. TVH chairman Tim Dye said: “When QPR told us they’d put in a football pitch and ‘hope to finance a stadium for you’, it seemed a good fit. “Linford’s a great supporter of the club, a local Shepherd’s Bush bloke and is fully in the loop.” The Championship club released a statement on Thursday morning confirming it was ‘looking at all possible options’. QPR chief executive Lee Hoos said: “We are looking at all possible options to secure the future of the club in Hammersmith and Fulham and benefit the community. “A potential partnership with an athletics club such as Thames Valley Harriers to create a new community stadium — and an adjacent athletics track — could bring huge benefits to both clubs, as well as to the local community that is our home. “Before putting forward any formal proposal for a new community stadium, we would consult fans, local residents, schools, charities and others to see how best we could achieve those aims.”
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Post by Bushman on Feb 9, 2017 16:37:37 GMT
Rusty Anchor boy. 1879 sounds about right 57 ;-) I'd prefer Old Dane but what's in a name - and I still have my green and gold football shirt to prove it. I must admit its a bit too small these days but an antique is an antique. But will always be remembered as a 'Rusty Anchor' in the Bush
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Post by marshbowles10 on Feb 9, 2017 18:12:23 GMT
Erm...
.............where are the 30,000 going to come from?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Feb 9, 2017 20:50:01 GMT
We could call it the John terry stadium. Go from a drug cheat to a racist.
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Post by sharky on Feb 11, 2017 10:19:33 GMT
From London Football News. Like Bushman said! londonfootballnews.co.uk/qpr/former-qpr-chief-warning-club-stadium-move/Former QPR chief has warning for club over stadium moveBy London Football News 11/02/2017 Former QPR chief executive Simon Crane has suggested the club might struggle to get any proposal to move to the Linford Christie Stadium off the ground. Rangers confirmed this week that talks had been held over a possible relocation to the venue near Wormwood Scrubs after West London Sport had reported that the club had held discussions over a potential move there. But QPR also looked into the feasibility of such a project during Crane’s time at Loftus Road in the 1990s and again a few years later. On both occasions, they discovered that the idea was a non-starter for a number of reasons. Crane therefore believes that something would need to change in order for building a new stadium there to now be a realistic prospect – and that the support of Hammersmith & Fulham Council will be crucial. “We looked at it fleetingly and it wasn’t viable,” Crane told Get West London. “However, with the help of the authority and a will on behalf of all parties, maybe the times have-a-changed. Because for sure, QPR need a new ground. “Space is so tight at Loftus Road, and it’s not fit for purpose in modern football.”
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Post by Lonegunmen on Feb 11, 2017 17:14:12 GMT
Simon who? Bob's brother??
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 13, 2017 7:45:00 GMT
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Post by nadera78 on Feb 14, 2017 9:53:27 GMT
The club have known about this for years. Wormwood Scrubs is owned by MoD The Wormwood Scrubs 1879 Act The Act gives rights and authority to the public, the Army and the Metropolitan Board of Works and its successors. The public's right to enjoy Wormwood Scrubs is protected in perpertuity - it may not be taken back wholesale by the military or sold unless the area "ceases to be used by the citizens of London".[1] In the same vein, the Act bans military training on public holidays. The Metropolitan Board of Works was given the authority to pass by-laws over the area, while the Army can prohibit entry by civilians on pain of fines or imprisonment during periods of military training. The Act remains in force today. The successor body to the Metropolitan Board of Works in acting as civilian trustees of Wormwood Scrubs are the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. The Ministry of Defence has replaced the War Office. You're right...and you're wrong... The Scrubs is owned by the MoD, but the Linford Christie Stadium (inc the 5-a-side pitches) sits on land owned by Hammersmith & Fulham Council.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Feb 14, 2017 17:26:09 GMT
Changing rooms in the Prison??
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Post by sharky on Sept 19, 2017 14:03:37 GMT
Latest from getwestlondon www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/linford-christie-stadium-crying-out-13639416'Linford Christie Stadium is crying out for regeneration' - QPR discuss new stadium plansThe Hoops are looking at a deal with Thames Valley Harriers which would see Linford Christie Stadium redeveloped and a new 30,000 seat stadium built BY GOOLISTAN COOPER 14:39, 19 SEP 2017 Championship side QPR have been discussing the idea of building a new ground at Linford Christie Stadium with the Shepherd’s Bush and White City community. It has held a series of engagements with local stakeholders, residents’ groups, schools, charities and others in and around W12. The club is looking to move from its historic Loftus Road home and believes the one-mile relocation to the home of Thames Valley Harriers (TVH), beside Wormwood Scrubs and Hammersmith Hospital, is a “win-win” for all involved . The club’s idea would involve a partnership with THV to create a new athletics track and community sports facility on site, as well as a separate 30,000 seater football stadium next to it. The plans would protect the green space of Wormwood Scrubs and not involve any development outside of the existing Linford Christie Stadium boundary. During the summer holidays, staff from QPR and QPR in the Community Trust met adults and children from Du Cane Road, the Old Oak Estate, the Wormholt Estate, the White City Estate, and the Wood Lane Estate to explain the idea, and listen to any potential concerns. Representatives from local churches and charities have also taken part in meetings to discuss how a new stadium could become a real community asset in W12. Mark Donnelly, QPR chief operating officer, said: “Talking to residents has generated lots of ideas about what people would like to see at a potentially redeveloped Linford Christie Stadium, whether it is toilets and a café or somewhere that schools can use as a base to take children on nature trips to the Scrubs. “The current Linford Christie Stadium is crying out for regeneration, and the potential for a big investment from a football club with the local community at its heart is huge. “It was important for us to engage with the community as early as we could to fully understand the possibilities and also the concerns, but there is still a way to go before we put forward any formal proposal.” The turn towards Linford Christie Stadium marked a new approach for the club, which has been frustrated in its attempts to build a new home as part of the Old Oak regeneration. Loftus Road has a capacity of just more than 18,000 and is the third smallest ground in the division. Earlier this month it hosted a Game4Grenfell to raise funds for those affected by the disaster. Anyone wanting to receive updates about the plans should email SecureRFuture@qpr.co.uk to register their interest.
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Post by blatantfowl on Sept 20, 2017 10:06:38 GMT
The population of Hammersmith and Fulham is approximately 180,000. We get gates of around 15,000. By purely a guess, I think a significant number of our fans travel in from outside anyway (I do) so I doubt more than half are are coming from the borough.
So I wonder with those of you on this board who do live in the borough, why does it matter so much to keep pursuing these difficult options like Old Oak and the LC Stadium? We would only need to go a few miles west where land is a little cheaper and more plentiful. To my perception, transport options could be better. Given our nomadic origins (albeit 100 years ago) - I am not convinced that our soul is tied to the area as much as we might think and the number of people through the gates does back that up. Is it possible that the majority of locals don't actually care as much as we think? Just look at the opposition we have faced on the training ground! That tortuous process where we have faced barrier after barrier also suggests we over emphasize our significance to the community. Obviously, to a small core of the community it is incredibly important to remain but beyond that relatively small hardcore base I am not so sure.
I know this will be offensive to some but I am genuinely just trying to understand. I am not talking about moving to Milton Keynes, just a pragmatic solution where current fans can still get to their club easily and a "new" community can be built while still supporting and celebrating our heritage.
In my opinion, this could also be the key to unlocking a larger fanbase that could justify a 30k seater stadium.
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Post by rousdonhoop on Sept 20, 2017 10:51:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure the out-dated facilities and cramped leg room at Loftus Road puts many from going. Agree too, many of us don't live around the corner like we did. That is why if we do move to the LR Stadium, transport links will need to improve drastically
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Sept 20, 2017 11:12:02 GMT
The population of Hammersmith and Fulham is approximately 180,000. We get gates of around 15,000. By purely a guess, I think a significant number of our fans travel in from outside anyway (I do) so I doubt more than half are are coming from the borough. So I wonder with those of you on this board who do live in the borough, why does it matter so much to keep pursuing these difficult options like Old Oak and the LC Stadium? We would only need to go a few miles west where land is a little cheaper and more plentiful. To my perception, transport options could be better. Given our nomadic origins (albeit 100 years ago) - I am not convinced that our soul is tied to the area as much as we might think and the number of people through the gates does back that up. Is it possible that the majority of locals don't actually care as much as we think? Just look at the opposition we have faced on the training ground! That tortuous process where we have faced barrier after barrier also suggests we over emphasize our significance to the community. Obviously, to a small core of the community it is incredibly important to remain but beyond that relatively small hardcore base I am not so sure. I know this will be offensive to some but I am genuinely just trying to understand. I am not talking about moving to Milton Keynes, just a pragmatic solution where current fans can still get to their club easily and a "new" community can be built while still supporting and celebrating our heritage. In my opinion, this could also be the key to unlocking a larger fanbase that could justify a 30k seater stadium. You instantly think no to this on first read and I still live fairly close but was talking to a few mates a while back about how our fan base is probably more from Ruislip Northolt than the bush these days! ... It's history though and the memories. 🤔
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Post by bowranger on Sept 20, 2017 12:02:53 GMT
I think even for people who don't live close by anymore, it being at the heart of the community around the Uxbridge Rd really feels like coming 'home'. I've not lived near there since I was 11 but it still feels like coming home whenever I come out of White City/Shepherds Bush tube every other week. It's obviously a big heart/head thing and I know all the very strong reasons for a new ground elsewhere etc. but I'd be heartbroken to leave LR itself, let alone the area.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Sept 20, 2017 12:06:40 GMT
I've stopped getting too excited about new stadium plans - too many pitfalls along the way outside of the club's control. But I like Lee Hoos' money-making idea for a new VIP area at the Scrubs, should we move there...
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 21, 2017 10:01:36 GMT
Could do a (small) list of people associated with QPR who at some point who've spent time 'inside" (for non-QPR Related offenses)
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