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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 9:40:07 GMT
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Post by kenthoop on Jan 3, 2017 9:40:07 GMT
Sky Sport reporting he has said he wants to leave this transfer window ,Sky also reporting a deal is imminent with us having been approached by two clubs ,if that is the case then let him go don't want players here who don't want to be here ,I thought there was more to his sudden injury than what we were being told ,
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 12:12:30 GMT
Post by bowranger on Jan 3, 2017 12:12:30 GMT
If he's displaying a poor attitude about it then that's obviously out of order but I can certainly sympathise with the situation he's (potentially) in. He got bought in by a manager who had a lot of faith in him and clearly valued him enough to chuck him in as a number 10 and given the responsibility of being the key creative player. Now there's a new manager who clearly isn't as keen on using him and if there are other clubs interested, then that's probably mutually beneficial to both Ollie and the player.
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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2017 12:29:10 GMT
If he's displaying a poor attitude about it then that's obviously out of order but I can certainly sympathise with the situation he's (potentially) in. He got bought in by a manager who had a lot of faith in him and clearly valued him enough to chuck him in as a number 10 and given the responsibility of being the key creative player. Now there's a new manager who clearly isn't as keen on using him and if there are other clubs interested, then that's probably mutually beneficial to both Ollie and the player. I think "if" is very important at the start of your post. All we know is that he's requested a transfer and that could be for any number of valid reasons. The abuse he's been getting on twitter is nothing short of disgusting.
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 12:32:28 GMT
Post by bowranger on Jan 3, 2017 12:32:28 GMT
If he's displaying a poor attitude about it then that's obviously out of order but I can certainly sympathise with the situation he's (potentially) in. He got bought in by a manager who had a lot of faith in him and clearly valued him enough to chuck him in as a number 10 and given the responsibility of being the key creative player. Now there's a new manager who clearly isn't as keen on using him and if there are other clubs interested, then that's probably mutually beneficial to both Ollie and the player. I think "if" is very important at the start of your post. All we know is that he's requested a transfer and that could be for any number of valid reasons. The abuse he's been getting on twitter is nothing short of disgusting. Well exactly, no-one really has any idea why he's put in a transfer request but people seem to get off on expecting the absolute worst. We always need a scapegoat. It's never structural, it's always new blood new blood new blood. Not a clue what may or may not be happening at the club, always absolutely eager for any opportunity to tar off someone. My favourite bit related to all of this is that Henry, high lord of all scapegoats, didn't feature in any of our consecutive defeats so people are forced to focus on someone else. Currently Onouha, not sure who's next.
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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2017 13:03:09 GMT
I think "if" is very important at the start of your post. All we know is that he's requested a transfer and that could be for any number of valid reasons. The abuse he's been getting on twitter is nothing short of disgusting. Well exactly, no-one really has any idea why he's put in a transfer request but people seem to get off on expecting the absolute worst. We always need a scapegoat. It's never structural, it's always new blood new blood new blood. Not a clue what may or may not be happening at the club, always absolutely eager for any opportunity to tar off someone. My favourite bit related to all of this is that Henry, high lord of all scapegoats, didn't feature in any of our consecutive defeats so people are forced to focus on someone else. Currently Onouha, not sure who's next. Well, there's always Perch. Tat said, he's been decent lately. But yes, there has always been the tendency to jump to conclusions and assume the worst. It could well be that Ollie's made it clear that he is't going to be the first name on the teamsheet and, given his age (29 this year), I'm sure he doesn't want to spent too much time languishing out of the team. Of course, if he didn't request a transfer and was quite happy to languish until his contract ran out, he no doubt would have taken stick for that so damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 13:04:34 GMT
Post by bowranger on Jan 3, 2017 13:04:34 GMT
Also, to nick a point made elsewhere online, at his age you'd almost be disappointed for him not trying to make the absolute best, professionally, of his situation. He's not been utilised in the way he tends to play, he's 28 and took a gamble in coming to the UK in what is the prime of his career. If he's getting better offers then he's entitled to consider them. As I said before, if he's displaying a poor attitude then that's a shame (we have no idea) but the bottom line is that nobody actually has a clue. Probably not a popular point but I'd wager that if he wasn't a creative European player he wouldn't be getting half as much stick about the assumption of not having "the stomach for the fight".
If you base it on things we do know, we know that Ollie has a track record of only involving players who specifically want to be there, so even if his effort hasn't shifted in terms of QPR, he'll isolate players if he feels there's a chance their head has been turned. I think this also points to what Ollie has done with teams in the past at this level. He likes a strong, experienced, English spine to his teams, so you'd assume (and it is only an assumption, albeit based on Ollie's history) that Chery doesn't just not fit into that stylistically, but more generally in terms of being a number 10.
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 13:08:16 GMT
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Post by bowranger on Jan 3, 2017 13:08:16 GMT
Well exactly, no-one really has any idea why he's put in a transfer request but people seem to get off on expecting the absolute worst. We always need a scapegoat. It's never structural, it's always new blood new blood new blood. Not a clue what may or may not be happening at the club, always absolutely eager for any opportunity to tar off someone. My favourite bit related to all of this is that Henry, high lord of all scapegoats, didn't feature in any of our consecutive defeats so people are forced to focus on someone else. Currently Onouha, not sure who's next. Well, there's always Perch. Tat said, he's been decent lately. But yes, there has always been the tendency to jump to conclusions and assume the worst. It could well be that Ollie's made it clear that he is't going to be the first name on the teamsheet and, given his age (29 this year), I'm sure he doesn't want to spent too much time languishing out of the team. Of course, if he didn't request a transfer and was quite happy to languish until his contract ran out, he no doubt would have taken stick for that so damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I think Perch has been a categorical moron in terms of his obsession with chopping into oppo players going nowhere when on a yellow, but beyond that I agree he's been much improved. He was certainly pretty solid yesterday. That's very true in terms of being damned if he does/doesn't. I certainly agree that if, at his age, he takes the risk of coming to a totally different league and country with a few years left then he probably wants to be playing at the highest level possible. If Ollie potentially isn't going to accommodate his style of play (which is indicated by the shapes of his recent formations and style), then it doesn't make sense for either party to hang around.
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Post by harr on Jan 3, 2017 14:26:50 GMT
Sun reporting Chery off to China, 2.5 Million
New Managers have new ideas and wont tolerate crap from players. If Henry told Ollie how the team should be playing, I dont blame him wanting rid.
If Chery wants to go to China chasing big bucks the let him go, what a waste of a career.....
If this is the reason these two are going or wanting to go ...BYE
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 14:31:03 GMT
Post by harr on Jan 3, 2017 14:31:03 GMT
CHERY ON TOP QPR dealt huge blow with star Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese Super League side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng for £2.5million
Midfielder has impressed for Championship strugglers but is ready to join Far East revolution BY MIKE MCGRATH 3rd January 2017, 2:09 pm
QPR have been dealt a massive blow with Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng.
The Dutch midfielder, 28, has been targeted with a £2.5million offer which Rangers are set to accept.
Chery has been a regular at Loftus Road this season and impressed despite his team struggling at the foot of the Championship table.
His form caught the eye of Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng, who have just been promoted to the Chinese Super League and are looking to bolster their squad.
They have Brazilian striker Mazola as their star man but Chery will be a key player for boss Li Bing.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2524807/qpr-dealt-huge-blow-with-star-tjaronn-chery-set-to-join-chinese-super-league-side-guizhou-hengfeng-zhicheng-for-2-5million/
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Chery
Jan 3, 2017 17:43:03 GMT
Post by corndog on Jan 3, 2017 17:43:03 GMT
So we will pretty much break even with the sale. If he's not up for it, or Ollie doesn't feel he fits, it's better now that he moves on than later.
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Post by egranger on Jan 4, 2017 0:31:42 GMT
Will miss Chery but good to see Mackie back - he lifts the crowd with his energy
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Chery
Jan 4, 2017 9:48:05 GMT
Post by terryb on Jan 4, 2017 9:48:05 GMT
CHERY ON TOP QPR dealt huge blow with star Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese Super League side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng for £2.5million Midfielder has impressed for Championship strugglers but is ready to join Far East revolution BY MIKE MCGRATH 3rd January 2017, 2:09 pm QPR have been dealt a massive blow with Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng. The Dutch midfielder, 28, has been targeted with a £2.5million offer which Rangers are set to accept. Chery has been a regular at Loftus Road this season and impressed despite his team struggling at the foot of the Championship table. His form caught the eye of Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng, who have just been promoted to the Chinese Super League and are looking to bolster their squad. They have Brazilian striker Mazola as their star man but Chery will be a key player for boss Li Bing.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2524807/qpr-dealt-huge-blow-with-star-tjaronn-chery-set-to-join-chinese-super-league-side-guizhou-hengfeng-zhicheng-for-2-5million/ Sky Sports News last night quoted the fee as being over £4 million.
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Chery
Jan 4, 2017 10:03:27 GMT
Post by harr on Jan 4, 2017 10:03:27 GMT
CHERY ON TOP QPR dealt huge blow with star Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese Super League side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng for £2.5million Midfielder has impressed for Championship strugglers but is ready to join Far East revolution BY MIKE MCGRATH 3rd January 2017, 2:09 pm QPR have been dealt a massive blow with Tjaronn Chery set to join Chinese side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng. The Dutch midfielder, 28, has been targeted with a £2.5million offer which Rangers are set to accept. Chery has been a regular at Loftus Road this season and impressed despite his team struggling at the foot of the Championship table. His form caught the eye of Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng, who have just been promoted to the Chinese Super League and are looking to bolster their squad. They have Brazilian striker Mazola as their star man but Chery will be a key player for boss Li Bing.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2524807/qpr-dealt-huge-blow-with-star-tjaronn-chery-set-to-join-chinese-super-league-side-guizhou-hengfeng-zhicheng-for-2-5million/ Sky Sports News last night quoted the fee as being over £4 million. Which would be good Terry as we dont tend to make much on most of our players. Apart from Sterling . We basically broke even on Austin, made a few thousand on Simpson, then he went and played for a Premiership winning defence. Lost big on Caulker and Sandro or should I say will be losing big, both over 7 million. McCarthy I think we broke even about 4 million. I think Mutch we broke even just in the end. Taraabt I think we made a small amount. Hoilett was a loss. Phillips, I think we might have made a bit on. But mostly all I can think of is losses over the last 5 -6 years. Oh the young lad we sold to Barnsley was a plus. Gladwin will probably be a minus 1.5 Million though. So will be good to make a bit on Chery and of course Henry owes us nothing, I think he was free and has been a pretty solid servant over the years but time to go now.
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Post by nomar on Jan 4, 2017 14:35:46 GMT
Chery is our best player and wants to cash in while his stock is high.
I can't criticise him for that at all. At his age this probably represents his last chance at a real big payday, so good for him, I say.
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Chery
Jan 4, 2017 15:45:49 GMT
Post by rangerjake on Jan 4, 2017 15:45:49 GMT
So we will pretty much break even with the sale. If he's not up for it, or Ollie doesn't feel he fits, it's better now that he moves on than later. What did we pay for him? Don't believe it was reported, but it makes sense that we would just break even. Well run clubs are pulling the Chinese's pants down and running off with bags of cash so that we would just barely make our money back sounds about right. Would have been nice to make a profit and soften the blow of the £10 million black hole that is Sandro.
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Chery
Jan 4, 2017 16:29:37 GMT
Post by sharky on Jan 4, 2017 16:29:37 GMT
From westlondonsport www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/chery-verge-completing-china-moveChery on the verge of completing China moveBy David McIntyre 04/01/2017 Tjaronn Chery is on the verge of completing his move from QPR to Chinese Super League side Guizhou Hengfeng Zhicheng. Chery, 28, asked for a transfer after receiving a lucrative offer to play in the Far East and his request has been granted. The Dutch midfielder, who joined Rangers from FC Groningen in the summer of 2015, is expected to finalise his move by the weekend. His contract is due to expire in 2018 and discussions over a new deal quickly stalled because of his wage demands. And with manager Ian Holloway keen to only retain players he believes are fully committed, Rangers are ready to let Chery go. He has not featured for QPR since the home defeat against Aston Villa on 18 December.
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Chery
Jan 5, 2017 11:05:04 GMT
Post by bowranger on Jan 5, 2017 11:05:04 GMT
Chery is our best player and wants to cash in while his stock is high. I can't criticise him for that at all. At his age this probably represents his last chance at a real big payday, so good for him, I say. Same really. I'd much prefer it if players wanted to die for the shirt and the money didn't matter and all that but it's a hell of a decision having an offer like that put in front of you. The irony is that people complain about players being on another planet in terms of relatability (with a lot of justification), but know deep down that 99% of them would take that kind of deal if it was put in front of them. Not being played in his preferred role, few years left in his career, young family to support and the club likely to be interested as we should be able to make a tidy profit. I'd be sad to see him go because whilst he's been out of form lately, he's still got stuff in his locker that can put a smile on your face at a game. Re-posting the Independent article on him because I think it's interesting: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/tjaronn-chery-interview-qpr-queens-park-rangers-championship-efl-a7358266.htmlI can only make assumptions here, but reading about his upbringing, having to care for his family from a young age and now having a young family himself etc. makes the decision for him to go off and grab a last payday in China a lot more understandable. I think it's an aspect of modern football that's overall very negative to the game, but I cannot begrudge Chery as a player for taking a deal like that if it's on the table.
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Chery
Jan 5, 2017 16:13:52 GMT
Post by londonranger on Jan 5, 2017 16:13:52 GMT
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Chery
Jan 5, 2017 19:48:42 GMT
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Post by Roller on Jan 5, 2017 19:48:42 GMT
Shame, but so be it. I'll wish him well when he goes; his flashes of skill have illuminated many dreary afternoons (mornings and evenings) at Loftus Road. He may not be Ollie's cup of tea, but is one of the best signings we've made in years.
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Chery
Jan 5, 2017 20:14:05 GMT
Post by harr on Jan 5, 2017 20:14:05 GMT
Shame, but so be it. I'll wish him well when he goes; his flashes of skill have illuminated many dreary afternoons (mornings and evenings) at Loftus Road. He may not be Ollie's cup of tea, but is one of the best signings we've made in years. Here, Here.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 5, 2017 20:32:59 GMT
As i said in the other thread. ANY player who goes to China is going soley for the money - period!!
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Chery
Jan 5, 2017 22:34:49 GMT
Post by londonranger on Jan 5, 2017 22:34:49 GMT
Ronalso was offerred 100 million per year but he declined. See my earlier post from nytimes.
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Chery
Jan 6, 2017 14:42:37 GMT
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Post by nomar on Jan 6, 2017 14:42:37 GMT
As i said in the other thread. ANY player who goes to China is going soley for the money - period!! And your problem with this is......?
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Chery
Jan 6, 2017 19:36:44 GMT
Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 6, 2017 19:36:44 GMT
No problem with itat all, but I hate bullshit such as...it's a great league and I wish to improve myself type crap.
57, your disclaimer was as funny as the initial remark.
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Post by Roller on Jan 6, 2017 19:46:51 GMT
If they offered me enough, I'd go.
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