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Post by Roller on Dec 14, 2016 7:32:37 GMT
Duo to attend Derby fixture ... QPR play host to Derby County at Loftus Road this week Two new Forever R's inductees tomorrow (Wednesday) night Lee Cook and Paul Furlong to join ex-players' association FORMER QPR duo Lee Cook and Paul Furlong will be inducted into The Forever R's Club on Wednesday night. The duo, who both played under current Rangers boss Ian Holloway during his first spell in charge of the R's, will be in attendance when the Hoops play host to Derby County in the Sky Bet Championship at Loftus Road. Cook, of course, enjoyed three spells at Loftus Road, making 196 appearances in total, scoring 13 goals. Furlong, the club's Under-18 coach, had two spells with us, making a total of 183 appearances (149 starts, 34 sub), scoring 58 goals. The pair will be inducted into The Forever R's Club at half-time, before taking part in a pitchside Q&A. www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-lee-cook-paul-furlong-the-forever-rs-club-3466036.aspx------- Would it be a good idea to induct Richard Keogh as well?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 14, 2016 8:49:01 GMT
Furs and Cookie, excellent.
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Post by bowranger on Dec 14, 2016 11:29:36 GMT
Memories of Furlong being paraded at half time at Stamford Bridge in an evening cup game against us (wanna say early 2000s?) to near indifference until he got to the away end and it just exploded. "BEFORE. YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HIM BEFORE".
Two of my fav players.
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Post by marshbowles10 on Dec 14, 2016 12:36:27 GMT
Lee Cook for his amazing gesture of his transfer fee to Fulham going back to help us survive made him my legend. Truly amazing and so different from the money grabbers that came, raped us and went.
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Post by Roller on Jan 1, 2017 16:48:30 GMT
Paul Parker and Paul Goddard next Duo set to return to Loftus Road on Monday ... PAUL Parker and Paul Goddard are the latest former QPR favourites set to be inducted into The Forever R’s Club. The ex-Rangers duo will be welcomed into our former players’ association at half-time against Ipswich Town tomorrow (Monday). Parker, now 52, represented the Super Hoops between 1897-91, making 160 appearances and scoring one goal in the process. As an R’s man, he also earned 16 full international caps for the Three Lions. Goddard, meanwhile, was a clinical striker who came up through the youth ranks at QPR. He scored 23 goals in 75 First Team appearances between 1978 and 1980. The pair will be introduced to the crowd at half-time before taking part in a pitchside Q&A. www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-the-forever-rs-club-paul-parker-paul-goddard-3489951.aspx
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 1, 2017 17:49:55 GMT
It's like a broken record from me, I know...Ignoring the "Journeymen loyalists" and that shouldnt be the way this is being done. This is for Ex-QPR players who contributed; not "all stars"
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Post by Roller on Jan 1, 2017 18:05:30 GMT
It's like a broken record from me, I know...Ignoring the "Journeymen loyalists" and that shouldnt be the way this is being done. This is for Ex-QPR players who contributed; not "all stars" With Mike Barber being the only exception? I notice that Goddard is being inducted while we are playing one of his former teams. That seemed to back fire when John Gregory was inducted in our match against Villa as at the end of his ceremony Gregory seemed to spend more time waving to the Villa fans than the home support. I think it is well known that Villa is Gregory's team, I've no idea about Goddard (although would suspect West Ham are higher in his affections). It doesn't matter to me, but it will to some at the ground.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 1, 2017 19:23:22 GMT
Yes Barber I hadnt even heard of. But that's good.
But I guess I shouldnt be surprised: This is the QPR of today
Everyone knows (or should know) Gregory's love for Aston Villa!
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 1, 2017 19:29:52 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 1, 2017 19:39:24 GMT
Forever Rs
Paul Parker & Paul Goddard
John Gregory & Don Masson
Lee Cook & Paul Furlong
Bob Hazell, Gareth Ainsworth & Simon Barker
Roger Morgan & Gary Micklewhite
Mark Lazarus & Ray Wilkins
John Hollins, Glenn Roeder & Mike Barber
Ian Morgan, Ian Gillard, Stan Bowles Don Shanks, Phil Parkes, Peter Hucker, Wayne Fereday, Danny Maddix, Clive Wilson, Andy Sinton, Kevin Gallen, Les Ferdinand, Martin Rowlands, Marc Bircham
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Post by NO1QPRNZ on Jan 2, 2017 7:51:00 GMT
I hope Rodney Marsh will not be far away? also how will the club recognize x Players who have passed away? surely a plaque would be nice.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2017 9:06:23 GMT
I imagine they're waiting for Marsh's next trip to London
And of course March 4, 2017 (the Cardiff Match) is the BIG Anniversary of the 1967 Wembley Triumph
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2017 8:52:47 GMT
Flashback From the Offie. Great to see. Well done my Club THE FOREVER R'S CLUB MINUTES: JUNE 2016PUBLISHED 19:00 21st July 2016 by @qprfc Former Players Committee meeting minutes released for June ... - First Former Players Committee meeting held - Minutes from meeting released CLUB Ambassador Andy Sinton, as well as members of the QPR steering group, met for the first time last month to discuss the formalisation of The Forever R's Club. The meeting focused on formalising how we continue and build upon our relationship with our Former Players. Minutes from the meeting can be found by clicking HERE. ( see below) Read more at www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-former-players-minutes-released-june-2016-3197946.aspx#ZWg0lHDrpF3XRKYE.99Minutes of The Forever R’s Club Meeting Tuesday 28th June 2016Attendees: Andy Sinton (AS), Julie Newman (JN), Ian Taylor (IT), Tony Incenzo (TI), Chris Guy (CG), Andy Evans (AE), Apologies : Lee Hoos (LH), Martin Percival (MP) Current Position All in agreement there had been a significant improvement in theClub’s engagement with Former Players in recent seasons; however, the formation of a Club would further enhance the aim of creating a more formal platform to continue the relationship. Vision, Mission & Criteria Vision and Mission as detailed in presentation was agreed. Criteria – All players would be invited to join the Club. Agreed that this would not be a Club that would provide funds to Former Players who may be ill or experiencing financial hardship. The PFA perform this role for its members. Structure of Committee Agreed to be as per list of attendees and LH & MP. CG & MP to ensure that there is always one of them at a meeting due to work pressures on diary. Additional Club / Trust staff may be invited to specific meetings if needed. i.e. planning events at QPR FC. Agreed to meet four times a year. Next meeting on Wednesday 10th August at 4pm at QPR FC before the EFL Cup tie against Swindon Town. Identity – Name & Logo Agreed on the name as The Forever R’s Club. JN will now ask Club designers to develop some new Logo’s. CG also offered some design support through a supporter he knows. JN to explore the costs of a tie that would be presented to each player when they attended a match here at QPR or other events. Database JN to circulate names of 112 Former Players currently on Database. All members of steering group to add any names and contacts to that list. Launch AE to discuss with Marketing team which fixture would provide an opportunity to launch The Forever R’s Club. Once match is confirmed – try and get good cross-section of former players from the different eras to launch the Club. Plan is then to induct Former Players into The Forever R’s Club at each home match and any other events in the future. Year One Commitment Commit to 1 x Legends Match as potential fundraiser played at local West London non-league venue. Commit to a QPR Golf Day. Commit to ‘An Evening With …’ event based at QPR FC. Offer opportunity for Former Players to visit Overseas Supporters Clubs as part of a fundraising strategy. Contact Norwegian Group first to see what events they have planned. Idea of a Five-a-side Fans tournament, with the chance to play a Legends team, using the new PlayFootball venue in South Africa Road. From the start of next year, put all funding group meetings in the diary for the year – same day on the third week of the month.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2017 8:54:38 GMT
And the Launch PUBLISHED 15:00 3rd October 2016 by @qprfc QPR to formally launch ex-players' assocation later this month ... The Forever R's Club to launch later this month Club is our newly-formed ex-players' association Launch will take place when we host Reading on 15th October THE Forever R's Club, our newly-formed ex-players' association, will formally launch when QPR welcome Reading to Loftus Road in the Sky Bet Championship in mid-October. Rangers play host to the Royals after the international break on October 15th, on a day when a host of stars from the club's past will join us in W12. Ian Morgan, Stan Bowles, Ian Gillard, Phil Parkes, Wayne Fereday, Peter Hucker, Clive Wilson, Danny Maddix, Martin Rowlands, Marc Bircham and Kevin Gallen are amongst those set to be in attendance, with a formal welcome into The Forever R's Club taking place on the Loftus Road pitch at half-time. QPR Club Ambassador Andy Sinton, who will host the group on the day, is looking forward to the official launch. “We've made great strides as a club in the last few years regarding our engagement with former players,” he said, “and the formation of The Forever R's Club was the obvious next step, as we look to create a more formal platform to continue that relationship. “We want to create a platform to ensure QPR’s former players continue to feel engaged and part of the QPR family. “As a club, we want to recognise, celebrate and embrace former QPR players by engaging them on a regular basis. “As a former player myself, I know how important and special it is to be recognised by the club and feel part of it once our playing days are over. “I am sure The Forever R’s Club will be a great way of saying thank you to former players, as well as engaging with them for many years to come.” He added: “The internal steering group have spent a lot of time and hard work getting The Forever R's Club to this point – and the feedback from all the ex-players I've spoken to, as well as the QPR supporters, has been really positive. “The launch day itself has all the makings of being a fantastic day for everyone associated with the club.” Further details regarding the launch will be confirmed in due course, but in the meantime, tickets for our clash against the Royals are still available - click HERE to purchase. at www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-the-forever-rs-club-reading-3344224.aspx#iA014hZHqZgYokoj.99
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 4, 2017 20:11:26 GMT
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Post by bowranger on Jan 5, 2017 11:23:23 GMT
Feels a little harsh to me. The club had really neglected former players for years, doing practically nothing and now they seem to have pulled their fingers out and made a formal commitment. It's only been going a few months and when you consider it's bringing players onto the pitch at half-time, they're probably going to prioritise those players who have had the biggest impact on the QPR fans' collective memory - that seems logical to me. Doesn't mean they won't include a wider range of players in future surely?
Not knocking your point but it just feels like this is one of the few things in recent years that the club has actually got right and it's something to be proud of. Ian Taylor is far from perfect but I feel proper sorry for him when they actually do make big strides in the right direction with a project like this and it's getting jabbed at. Seeing players I used to have posters of on my wall growing up back on the LR pitch again feels really great, it genuinely impacts me at matches in terms of reinforcing QPR's heritage after years of feeling really alienated by what the club had become.
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Post by terryb on Jan 5, 2017 12:34:28 GMT
What I don't understand is why you can only be enrolled by appearing on the pitch.
Yes, I understand the PR in the half time presentations & I'm very happy for it to continue. This has been far better entertainment that "Round the Pole" etc & sometimes more than the match!
However, if this is the only way to obtain membership many any ex players will die before it is their time! Some ex players are possibly unable to attend Loftus Road, but they are just as eligible for ForeverR's. We may have a long time to wait before Gino Padula is back in the UK for example.
Why can't they be contacted & invited membership outside of our matches. This wouldn't stop public enrolment taking place.
It may be, of course, that this is currently happening & that we only hear about the players that are presented. It is also far better than we have regarded ex players in the past & for that I'm grateful!
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2017 13:58:27 GMT
Feels a little harsh to me. The club had really neglected former players for years, doing practically nothing and now they seem to have pulled their fingers out and made a formal commitment. It's only been going a few months and when you consider it's bringing players onto the pitch at half-time, they're probably going to prioritise those players who have had the biggest impact on the QPR fans' collective memory - that seems logical to me. Doesn't mean they won't include a wider range of players in future surely? Not knocking your point but it just feels like this is one of the few things in recent years that the club has actually got right and it's something to be proud of. Ian Taylor is far from perfect but I feel proper sorry for him when they actually do make big strides in the right direction with a project like this and it's getting jabbed at. Seeing players I used to have posters of on my wall growing up back on the LR pitch again feels really great, it genuinely impacts me at matches in terms of reinforcing QPR's heritage after years of feeling really alienated by what the club had become. Thanks Bowranger OK... Many have been pushing for remembering old players Last couple years, they've started tweeting birthdays (for some ex players) - They didnt even used to do that. So good. And could argue about whether they should do more to actually HELP indigent or sick ex-players (as some others do); but that's for another time But This has been described for ALL Players... It's not as de facto made to appear "A Hall of Fame" I have no problem with big names coming back; of course not. I like that as much as anyone. I do mind that the not-big names are being relegated to the periphery even though they may have done so much more; worked so much harder and longer as some of those being feted. Go for a mix... Or at least name them.... And if the club can't locate them...They could be making public appeals for anybody who knows where former player x or y....is As for IJT...Well I'm not a big fan of snide responses to seriously-intended questions. But so be it.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2017 16:07:13 GMT
Next up Harper & Byrne QPR OFFICIAL SITE BYRNE & HARPER TO JOIN FOREVER R'S PUBLISHED 15:45 5th January 2017 by @qprfc Duo to be inducted on Saturday ... QPR play host to Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup third round on Saturday Ex-R's John Byrne and Lee Harper to be inducted into The Forever R's Club Duo will be inducted by Club Ambassador, Andy Sinton FORMER QPR duo John Byrne and Lee Harper will be inducted into The Forever R's Club this weekend. Rangers play host to Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup third round at Loftus Road on Saturday afternoon, with the duo set to be inducted into our ex-players association by Club Ambassador, Andy Sinton. Fondly remembered for his fantastic dribbling skills and long blonde hair, Byrne signed from York City in October 1984 for £100,000. He went on to make 149 appearances for Rangers, netting 36 times. During his time at Loftus Road, he won the first 13 of his 23 Republic of Ireland caps. Goalkeeper Harper, meanwhile, joined Rangers in 1997. He made 132 appearances for the Hoops, and was runner-up in the Supporters' Player of the Year vote in 1999/2000. Byrne and Harper will be presented to the crowd at half-time during Saturday's Cup tie. Tickets for the clash against Rovers are still available - click HERE for full ticketing details. See also ...
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Post by bowranger on Jan 5, 2017 16:54:49 GMT
What I don't understand is why you can only be enrolled by appearing on the pitch. Yes, I understand the PR in the half time presentations & I'm very happy for it to continue. This has been far better entertainment that "Round the Pole" etc & sometimes more than the match! However, if this is the only way to obtain membership many any ex players will die before it is their time! Some ex players are possibly unable to attend Loftus Road, but they are just as eligible for ForeverR's. We may have a long time to wait before Gino Padula is back in the UK for example. Why can't they be contacted & invited membership outside of our matches. This wouldn't stop public enrolment taking place. It may be, of course, that this is currently happening & that we only hear about the players that are presented. It is also far better than we have regarded ex players in the past & for that I'm grateful! Good point that, I'm not sure what a workaround may be. Perhaps having players invited to the match for a meal and not the on the pitch stuff? Saying that, they enrolled loads on the pitch all at once when they launched it. It feels a bit of a difficult tight rope really because I suppose there's so many people worthy of recognition but at the same time you'd assume there'd need need to be a certain level of exclusivity to it - is it for anyone who happens to have been an ex player? Where is the line drawn when it comes to being picked? I guess that bleeds into what exactly the programme is in practice which I think Macmoish is referring to - as in, is it just about recognition and therefore it's turning more into a Hall of Fame setup, or is it more generally about support and gratitude to ex-players and is this the best medium for it?
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Post by bowranger on Jan 5, 2017 17:14:44 GMT
Feels a little harsh to me. The club had really neglected former players for years, doing practically nothing and now they seem to have pulled their fingers out and made a formal commitment. It's only been going a few months and when you consider it's bringing players onto the pitch at half-time, they're probably going to prioritise those players who have had the biggest impact on the QPR fans' collective memory - that seems logical to me. Doesn't mean they won't include a wider range of players in future surely? Not knocking your point but it just feels like this is one of the few things in recent years that the club has actually got right and it's something to be proud of. Ian Taylor is far from perfect but I feel proper sorry for him when they actually do make big strides in the right direction with a project like this and it's getting jabbed at. Seeing players I used to have posters of on my wall growing up back on the LR pitch again feels really great, it genuinely impacts me at matches in terms of reinforcing QPR's heritage after years of feeling really alienated by what the club had become. Thanks Bowranger OK... Many have been pushing for remembering old players Last couple years, they've started tweeting birthdays (for some ex players) - They didnt even used to do that. So good. And could argue about whether they should do more to actually HELP indigent or sick ex-players (as some others do); but that's for another time But This has been described for ALL Players... It's not as de facto made to appear "A Hall of Fame" I have no problem with big names coming back; of course not. I like that as much as anyone. I do mind that the not-big names are being relegated to the periphery even though they may have done so much more; worked so much harder and longer as some of those being feted. Go for a mix... Or at least name them.... And if the club can't locate them...They could be making public appeals for anybody who knows where former player x or y....is As for IJT...Well I'm not a big fan of snide responses to seriously-intended questions. But so be it. I see what you mean in terms of the Hall of Fame style setup compared to how it was originally described - it certainly comes across as a lot more like the former. Agree that it should be a mix and that it being a mix would actually make it far closer to how the Forever Rs project is being described in the minutes. My only thing would be that I don't necessarily think it's a case of people being relegated to the periphery - or at least not yet - just because the programme is in its relative infancy and to build engagement with fans they're more likely to bring out the bigger names first. I certainly agree that it would be a shame if not-big names do not feature - partly cos it's an important part of maintaining our heritage and reaching out to players who were loyal to the club and partly because the club should be doing that to fulfil the remit as they described it. With that in mind, I'd say one of the strongest arguments for making it as diverse as possible in terms of 'names' is that there's only so much momentum you can actually have with focusing on the bigger names. We're blessed with a heritage of amazing, popular players from years past but if you're doing 2-3 minimum every week or so, the 'Hall of Fame' style of the whole thing will wane over time as the club runs out of bigger names to parade on the pitch. But I suppose another way of looking at it is that the priority should be more on showing gratitude to players past as opposed to parading people who the fanbase are most likely to connect with (though again, that's important too). Striking that balance in terms of ex-player availability, their travel and so on does not sound like an easy task though so I have some sympathy. I agree IJT can come across snide sometimes, but also feel like he fields so much abuse and hyperbole off people that I feel a bit sorry for him too. As I say, this is one of the few things in recent years that I think the club has acted in really good faith on so it just felt a shame to be digging into it already. Either way, trying to make the club accountable about something like this is important and I definitely don't want to knock that, just feel like it should be given a bit more time. As you say, the wider argument on actively helping ex-players in need of support is for another time - it's certainly a big heart/head thing for me and when I've thought about it I've never been able to come close to thinking of a compromise that would leave everyone happy. I do hope it's a discussion that the club are encouraged to have, though, and that it's not left alone.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2017 17:57:40 GMT
Let me just add: Twitter is great for some things (at least I find). But for sensible, serious exchange of differing views, nothing beats a messageboard (at least which one encourages debate and divergence without denigration) So thanks Bowranger and the rest
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Post by Roller on Jan 5, 2017 20:01:59 GMT
I wouldn't describe Lee Harper as a "Hall of Famer" but a decent keeper who did well for us.
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Post by Bushman on Jan 5, 2017 20:27:24 GMT
To be inducted v Fulham on the 21st. Armand Traoré & SWP.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 5, 2017 20:38:14 GMT
You are F***en taking the piss Bushy are you not??
With the Social Media like Faceless Book, it should be quite easy to find former players out there as someone will know of them. Although there is one user "Clive Allen" who is not the real Clive Allen but happens to be a QPR fan.
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Post by harr on Jan 5, 2017 22:29:41 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 6, 2017 9:56:25 GMT
Even within the way QPR have been making these announcement, Harper is a little strange choice, I'd say, given the other selections.
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Post by Roller on Jan 6, 2017 19:47:55 GMT
Even within the way QPR have been making these announcement, Harper is a little strange choice, I'd say, given the other selections. But the sort of choice we want to see included.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 6, 2017 20:36:54 GMT
Let's hope Sandro doesn't! It'll cost us an arm and a leg to do that one.
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Post by Bushman on Jan 6, 2017 23:30:02 GMT
Even within the way QPR have been making these announcement, Harper is a little strange choice, I'd say, given the other selections. Easy one for them to get to the ground.
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