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Post by Roller on May 7, 2016 19:01:20 GMT
No one was spot on, but lots of home winners: No1NZ, Wrenboy, Mac, egranger, Bushman, fabs, Kent, Blatant, Bowles, Myself, Finnmac, Canada
Table to follow shortly
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Post by Roller on May 7, 2016 19:22:54 GMT
Final table, well the top end. Congratulations to Bushman, and many thanks to LondonRanger for his sterling work all season long. Bushman | 45 | Sharky | 32 | Blatant | 31 | Bowles | 31 | Finnmac | 30 | Kenthoop | 30 | London | 26 | Canada | 25 | Harr | 25 | No1NZ | 24 | Gren | 22 | Roller | 22 | Lone | 21 | StyleC | 21 | Mac | 20 | Fabs | 19 |
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Post by Roller on May 7, 2016 19:32:24 GMT
No one predicted that we'd finish 12th. LondonRanger and BlatantFowl were either side, but no cigar
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Post by Bushman on May 7, 2016 19:42:19 GMT
Many thanks to LondonRanger for once again doing a top job all season and also thanks to his young protégé Roller for stepping into the breach..
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Post by Marc on May 7, 2016 19:46:44 GMT
No one predicted that we'd finish 12th. I did originally but changed it when we didn't sell Austin last summer. Ah well, I'll go and polish my wooden spoon.
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Post by Macmoish on May 7, 2016 21:56:08 GMT
Thanks Roller... I look to emulate Leicester next season...Going from near bottom to top...
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Post by bowles on May 8, 2016 22:52:01 GMT
JOINT THIRD A ROLLER , DO YOU HEAR ME JOINT THRID!!!!!!!! IN YOUR FACE HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry!
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Post by NO1QPRNZ on May 9, 2016 4:39:57 GMT
Oh well happy with 10th.At least I didn't get Relegated.Thanks and well done to the Tipping Team.
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 6:35:06 GMT
No one predicted that we'd finish 12th. LondonRanger and BlatantFowl were either side, but no cigar Half of the predictors had us to finish in the top six thats why. But its ok , cos we are building again lol Was we not in 11 th when Ramsey departed ? I dont think we would be in 12 th If NW stayed in charge. Still, we have moved on. Yep, sidewards or backwards . Thanks to London and Roller and all who participated
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Post by sharky on May 9, 2016 12:02:28 GMT
No one predicted that we'd finish 12th. LondonRanger and BlatantFowl were either side, but no cigar Half of the predictors had us to finish in the top six thats why. But its ok , cos we are building again lol Was we not in 11 th when Ramsey departed ? I dont think we would be in 12 th If NW stayed in charge. Still, we have moved on. Yep, sidewards or backwards . Thanks to London and Roller and all who participated Tired of the NW love in. Who knows what would have happened if NW had stayed. His last game in charge if memory serves me well was one of the few that was shown on TV here in OZ, the one against Reading. Reading were all over us like a rash and we won against the run of play. He stopped playing the likes of Luongo and Chery if I'm not mistaken and played Fer, Sandro and co. I personally am glad he didn't get the manager role. I think he'd have taken us back to the bad old days of playing players who were our past, not our future. I realise that my view isn't held by a lot of fans who post on this board but that's the way I feel.
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 12:20:01 GMT
Half of the predictors had us to finish in the top six thats why. But its ok , cos we are building again lol Was we not in 11 th when Ramsey departed ? I dont think we would be in 12 th If NW stayed in charge. Still, we have moved on. Yep, sidewards or backwards . Thanks to London and Roller and all who participated Tired of the NW love in. Who knows what would have happened if NW had stayed. His last game in charge if memory serves me well was one of the few that was shown on TV here in OZ, the one against Reading. Reading were all over us like a rash and we won against the run of play. He stopped playing the likes of Luongo and Chery if I'm not mistaken and played Fer, Sandro and co. I personally am glad he didn't get the manager role. I think he'd have taken us back to the bad old days of playing players who were our past, not our future. I realise that my view isn't held by a lot of fans who post on this board but that's the way I feel. I'm with you sharkey. Also, Ramsey had Austin (10 goals), JFH didn't.
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 12:26:15 GMT
Half of the predictors had us to finish in the top six thats why. But its ok , cos we are building again lol Was we not in 11 th when Ramsey departed ? I dont think we would be in 12 th If NW stayed in charge. Still, we have moved on. Yep, sidewards or backwards . Thanks to London and Roller and all who participated Tired of the NW love in. Who knows what would have happened if NW had stayed. His last game in charge if memory serves me well was one of the few that was shown on TV here in OZ, the one against Reading. Reading were all over us like a rash and we won against the run of play. He stopped playing the likes of Luongo and Chery if I'm not mistaken and played Fer, Sandro and co. I personally am glad he didn't get the manager role. I think he'd have taken us back to the bad old days of playing players who were our past, not our future. I realise that my view isn't held by a lot of fans who post on this board but that's the way I feel. No your very welcome to have those views Sharky, you may well be right. He wouldnt have been a long term solution thats for sure. Mind you I dont think JFH will ever be either, but thats just way I feel.
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 12:30:08 GMT
Tired of the NW love in. Who knows what would have happened if NW had stayed. His last game in charge if memory serves me well was one of the few that was shown on TV here in OZ, the one against Reading. Reading were all over us like a rash and we won against the run of play. He stopped playing the likes of Luongo and Chery if I'm not mistaken and played Fer, Sandro and co. I personally am glad he didn't get the manager role. I think he'd have taken us back to the bad old days of playing players who were our past, not our future. I realise that my view isn't held by a lot of fans who post on this board but that's the way I feel. I'm with you sharkey. Also, Ramsey had Austin (10 goals), JFH didn't. Apart from the less goals conceded Fabs, what else do you think JFH has brought to the table in nearly 30 games? Just curious Considering Ramsey was the worse Manager TF ever appointed? How come JFH has taken us a place lower in the League, is that all due to Austin?
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 12:40:49 GMT
I'm with you sharkey. Also, Ramsey had Austin (10 goals), JFH didn't. Apart from the less goals conceded Fabs, what else do you think JFH has brought to the table in nearly 30 games? Just curious Considering Ramsey was the worse Manager TF ever appointed? How come JFH has taken us a place lower in the League, is that all due to Austin? He's spent the last dozen or so games looking at the squad, experimenting, league position is irrelevant. We weren't likely to gain promotion, we were never in danger of relegation. But yes, I'd say our league position under Ramsey was due to Austin's goals. Imagine where we would have been in the table without him and conceding an average of 2 points per game! The "less goals conceded" was vital, that IMHO was JFH's biggest priority and he did it well. People always say that, when you're building a team, you start with the defence.
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 14:11:05 GMT
Apart from the less goals conceded Fabs, what else do you think JFH has brought to the table in nearly 30 games? Just curious Considering Ramsey was the worse Manager TF ever appointed? How come JFH has taken us a place lower in the League, is that all due to Austin? He's spent the last dozen or so games looking at the squad, experimenting, league position is irrelevant. We weren't likely to gain promotion, we were never in danger of relegation. But yes, I'd say our league position under Ramsey was due to Austin's goals. Imagine where we would have been in the table without him and conceding an average of 2 points per game! The "less goals conceded" was vital, that IMHO was JFH's biggest priority and he did it well. People always say that, when you're building a team, you start with the defence. Yes you always start at defence, although attacking and finishing we have been poor. Seldomly getting more than one goal a game, then we do concede and end up with one point. So now he has done all the experimenting, with a few additions where should we finish next season in your opinion and if he finished in the bottom half would it be warranted to replace him. Everyone seems so at ease to just let things tick along even if not making real progress. I think most have either given up or think we have found our level, mid table Championship. El Khayati ? What do you make of him?
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 14:34:15 GMT
He's spent the last dozen or so games looking at the squad, experimenting, league position is irrelevant. We weren't likely to gain promotion, we were never in danger of relegation. But yes, I'd say our league position under Ramsey was due to Austin's goals. Imagine where we would have been in the table without him and conceding an average of 2 points per game! The "less goals conceded" was vital, that IMHO was JFH's biggest priority and he did it well. People always say that, when you're building a team, you start with the defence. Yes you always start at defence, although attacking and finishing we have been poor. Seldomly getting more than one goal a game, then we do concede and end up with one point. So now he has done all the experimenting, with a few additions where should we finish next season in your opinion and if he finished in the bottom half would it be warranted to replace him. Everyone seems so at ease to just let things tick along even if not making real progress. I think most have either given up or think we have found our level, mid table Championship. El Khayati ? What do you make of him? It's way too early to gauge progress in the current circumstances, it's a massive rebuilding process. I've said it before and I'll say it again, give a manager a full pre-season with his own team before judging him. Rowett has had is and has taken Birmingham no further than last season. Not seen enough of El-Khayati yet but I've seen potential.
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 15:34:52 GMT
Yes you always start at defence, although attacking and finishing we have been poor. Seldomly getting more than one goal a game, then we do concede and end up with one point. So now he has done all the experimenting, with a few additions where should we finish next season in your opinion and if he finished in the bottom half would it be warranted to replace him. Everyone seems so at ease to just let things tick along even if not making real progress. I think most have either given up or think we have found our level, mid table Championship. El Khayati ? What do you make of him? It's way too early to gauge progress in the current circumstances, it's a massive rebuilding process. I've said it before and I'll say it again, give a manager a full pre-season with his own team before judging him. Rowett has had is and has taken Birmingham no further than last season. Not seen enough of El-Khayati yet but I've seen potential. We will see Fabs. If we sign a few decent players and end up 12th at the end of next year I wont be happy If we sign some more League One players and end up lower, it will have proved the wrong management choice again after Ramsey. Personally I feel Rowett is twice the Manager JFH is. I really cant be bothered to argue about Managers anymore at QPR, I'm not even sure why I'm posting these comments
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 16:22:26 GMT
It's way too early to gauge progress in the current circumstances, it's a massive rebuilding process. I've said it before and I'll say it again, give a manager a full pre-season with his own team before judging him. Rowett has had is and has taken Birmingham no further than last season. Not seen enough of El-Khayati yet but I've seen potential. We will see Fabs. If we sign a few decent players and end up 12th at the end of next year I wont be happy If we sign some more League One players and end up lower, it will have proved the wrong management choice again after Ramsey. Personally I feel Rowett is twice the Manager JFH is. I really cant be bothered to argue about Managers anymore at QPR, I'm not even sure why I'm posting these comments I'm not disagreeing with you on your first 2 points, I expect us to at least be knocking on the door of the play-offs next year. That, to me, would be progress. Although, if we sign more league one players and finish lower, that may say more about available cash than anything else. Rowett hasn't really done anything of note yet. Yes, he got Brum up into the top half of the table las year but he hasn't kicked on. He even said in his post match interview on Saturday that he was pleased that they finished in the same position as last season. If I was a Brum fan, I'd be annoyed that he didn't show any regret at not making the play-offs! JFH took a team that, having failed at the play-offs the previous 2 seasons, were in 5th place and without a win in 5 games. He then got them promoted as champions and then straight to the top of League 1. I know you'll say it was Rowetts team but,; if JFH had taken us to the play-offs this season, would you have said that t was Ramsey's team? As far as your last comment is concerned, I thought we were having a debate, a friendly discussion. Isn't that what these messageboards are for?
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 18:48:46 GMT
We will see Fabs. If we sign a few decent players and end up 12th at the end of next year I wont be happy If we sign some more League One players and end up lower, it will have proved the wrong management choice again after Ramsey. Personally I feel Rowett is twice the Manager JFH is. I really cant be bothered to argue about Managers anymore at QPR, I'm not even sure why I'm posting these comments I'm not disagreeing with you on your first 2 points, I expect us to at least be knocking on the door of the play-offs next year. That, to me, would be progress. Although, if we sign more league one players and finish lower, that may say more about available cash than anything else. Rowett hasn't really done anything of note yet. Yes, he got Brum up into the top half of the table las year but he hasn't kicked on. He even said in his post match interview on Saturday that he was pleased that they finished in the same position as last season. If I was a Brum fan, I'd be annoyed that he didn't show any regret at not making the play-offs! JFH took a team that, having failed at the play-offs the previous 2 seasons, were in 5th place and without a win in 5 games. He then got them promoted as champions and then straight to the top of League 1. I know you'll say it was Rowetts team but,; if JFH had taken us to the play-offs this season, would you have said that t was Ramsey's team? As far as your last comment is concerned, I thought we were having a debate, a friendly discussion. Isn't that what these messageboards are for? Yep it was Rowetts team for sure. JFH just took it over. Its easy taking it over like the new Burton Manager just did. Rowett took a team in the Championship in the bottom three to 10 th place when he joined, a team with little money with assets frozen. JFH took a team from 11th to 12 th in a similar amount of games, not 21st or similar to 10 th. A mile of a difference to me. Yes he has not pushed on this year agreed but still a very good Manager and one I would have welcomed with a list of others before JFH We certainly cant afford to sign any more Jets or Goberns this year if we have a tight budget. Its always a good debate and a pleasure Fabs.
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 19:47:01 GMT
I'm not disagreeing with you on your first 2 points, I expect us to at least be knocking on the door of the play-offs next year. That, to me, would be progress. Although, if we sign more league one players and finish lower, that may say more about available cash than anything else. Rowett hasn't really done anything of note yet. Yes, he got Brum up into the top half of the table las year but he hasn't kicked on. He even said in his post match interview on Saturday that he was pleased that they finished in the same position as last season. If I was a Brum fan, I'd be annoyed that he didn't show any regret at not making the play-offs! JFH took a team that, having failed at the play-offs the previous 2 seasons, were in 5th place and without a win in 5 games. He then got them promoted as champions and then straight to the top of League 1. I know you'll say it was Rowetts team but,; if JFH had taken us to the play-offs this season, would you have said that t was Ramsey's team? As far as your last comment is concerned, I thought we were having a debate, a friendly discussion. Isn't that what these messageboards are for? Yep it was Rowetts team for sure. JFH just took it over. Its easy taking it over like the new Burton Manager just did. Rowett took a team in the Championship in the bottom three to 10 th place when he joined, a team with little money with assets frozen. JFH took a team from 11th to 12 th in a similar amount of games, not 21st or similar to 10 th. A mile of a difference to me. Yes he has not pushed on this year agreed but still a very good Manager and one I would have welcomed with a list of others before JFH We certainly cant afford to sign any more Jets or Goberns this year if we have a tight budget. Birmingham & QPR have very different recent histories, I don't think they're comparable. Also, I don't think taking us higher in the table was his remit anyway, totally different circumstances to Birmingham. I think 11th was a false position to compare anyway, As I said, we were there because of Austin's goals, JFH didn't have that pleasure. I agree for sure about Goberns & JETs and I'm sure so does JFH. Its always a good debate and a pleasure Fabs. Agreed harls
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Post by harr on May 9, 2016 21:20:27 GMT
Yep it was Rowetts team for sure. JFH just took it over. Its easy taking it over like the new Burton Manager just did. Rowett took a team in the Championship in the bottom three to 10 th place when he joined, a team with little money with assets frozen. JFH took a team from 11th to 12 th in a similar amount of games, not 21st or similar to 10 th. A mile of a difference to me. Yes he has not pushed on this year agreed but still a very good Manager and one I would have welcomed with a list of others before JFH We certainly cant afford to sign any more Jets or Goberns this year if we have a tight budget. Birmingham & QPR have very different recent histories, I don't think they're comparable. Also, I don't think taking us higher in the table was his remit anyway, totally different circumstances to Birmingham. I think 11th was a false position to compare anyway, As I said, we were there because of Austin's goals, JFH didn't have that pleasure. I agree for sure about Goberns & JETs and I'm sure so does JFH. Its always a good debate and a pleasure Fabs. Agreed harls Lets see who he and Les buys over the Summer, I think we will have a better idea where we go by the end of August and if we sell Fer, Caulker , Phillips and Sandro, intetested to see how much we get and how much we use. Should be interesting though Fabs and give us something to chat about
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Post by Marc on May 9, 2016 21:23:41 GMT
Birmingham & QPR have very different recent histories, I don't think they're comparable. Also, I don't think taking us higher in the table was his remit anyway, totally different circumstances to Birmingham. I think 11th was a false position to compare anyway, As I said, we were there because of Austin's goals, JFH didn't have that pleasure. I agree for sure about Goberns & JETs and I'm sure so does JFH. Agreed harls Lets see who he and Les buys over the Summer, I think we will have a better idea where we go by the end of August and if we sell Fer, Caulker , Phillips and Sandro, intetested to see how much we get and how much we use. Should be interesting though Fabs and give us something to chat about Indeed it does, looking forward to it.
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Post by Macmoish on May 10, 2016 8:32:20 GMT
Hopefully we'll be hearing from London soon that all went well....
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 11, 2016 2:47:21 GMT
I checked the magic ball and next season is unbelievable! We go like this.....
Home 23 0 23 0 23 23 23 Away 23 0 23 0 46 46 23 Tot: 46 0 46 0 69 69 46
Purely amazing and the bookies go broke when I whack 100 quid on it.
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