|
Post by eusebio13 on Jan 13, 2015 23:06:06 GMT
QPR boss Harry Redknapp believed to be facing sack if he loses their next match Jan 13, 2015 22:30 By Darren Lewis, Dave Kidd Defeat against Man United on Saturday could be the end for the 67-year-old whose relegation-threatened Hoops have not taken an away point all season Christopher LeeEnd of the Loftus Road? Would a loss to Man United see Redknapp sacked? Harry Redknapp's future as Queens Park Rangers manager in the balance - with a growing belief he could be sacked if his side are beaten by Manchester United on Saturday. Club insiders admit defeats by League One Sheffield United in the FA Cup and by relegation rivals Burnley have put Redknapp under increasing internal pressure. Redknapp was already facing the prospect of a frustrating January transfer window, with the Rangers board vetoing a move to sign Jermain Defoe from Major League Soccer side Toronto FC. And it is believed Rangers' directors are advising owner Tony Fernandes to consider a managerial change. Redknapp's fellow former Tottenham boss Tim Sherwood is regarded as the obvious candidate to replace Redknapp - and his close allies Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey have already joined the QPR staff. Fernandes enjoys a warm relationship with Redknapp and resisted calls for his sacking when he was under similar pressure after a poor start to the season - but he is now facing another tough decision. The AirAsia owner has been focussing with the aftermath of the tragic crash of one of his airline's planes into the Java Sea last month. But Fernandes has been dealing with some club business in recent days and Redknapp's future is said to have been discussed. Rangers players exchanged angry words with some supporters after Saturday's 2-1 defeat at Burnley, which meant the west Londoners had become the first top-flight club in more than half a century to lose all of their first ten away league matches. PARelegation fight: QPR defender Clint Hill argues with the away fans at Burnley Redknapp, 67, will be banking on his club's decent home form to inspire a result against Louis Van Gaal's United, which could keep him in a job. The former Tottenham, Portsmouth and West Ham chief admitted he would have retired from management had QPR failed to win promotion back to the Premier League in the play-off final against Derby last May. Some directors believe the club should not be in relegation danger, given the experience in Redknapp's squad - although the manager is still arguing that he needs another striker, despite signing Mauro Zarate on loan from West Ham. Redknapp's signing of former Manchester United and England defender Rio Ferdinand, which has not been a success, had brought opposition from within the boardroom. The manager's public slanging match with Adel Taarabt also caused consternation inside the club. The Moroccan was finally restored to the starting line-up at Burnley, as Redknapp complained about a lack of options. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qpr-boss-harry-redknapp-believed-4973742
|
|
|
Post by harr on Jan 13, 2015 23:18:15 GMT
Not sure giving someone 16 games to keep you up is fair . Not when you look how tough our home fixtures are going to be. Man U , Southampton, Chelsea, Spurs ,West Ham ,Newcastle and Everton , probably the toughest home games out of all the bottom seven teams add that the fact we can't win away , not surprising the bookies have us as relegation candidates. I think we blew our chance with not getting anything at 10 man Arsenal , twp points from Palace and Swansea and Burnley . Two points from those had made the task twice as hard now and away form is playing on the players minds. It's going to take a big effort to get a win at home to Man U but hey they have only won two away games so it should be achievable . Man U have the joint worst away form in the top half of the Division i terms of wins. If the players feel they let us down in the Cup and at Turf Moor , how's about showing us some spirit then ... Maybe they owe it to Redknapp
|
|
|
Post by nadera78 on Jan 13, 2015 23:27:38 GMT
Sacking Redknapp to bring in Sherwood makes very little sense. As much I dislike the former, the latter had one mediocre spell in charge of an expensively assembled Spurs and seems to think that makes him something special.
|
|
|
Post by londonranger on Jan 13, 2015 23:29:05 GMT
Mirror writes great fiction.
|
|
|
Post by marshbowles10 on Jan 14, 2015 1:10:54 GMT
Oh no, this probably means he is just about to sign the contract that was sitting in his 'in tray' the start of the season and he hadn't got round to signing it.
|
|
tom007
Dave Sexton
![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png)
Posts: 1,612
|
Post by tom007 on Jan 14, 2015 1:31:49 GMT
i think if we lose against man u he might walk. if u get the usual first couple of wins with a new manager it will put us up nearly half way.worth a risk with someone else to be honest.
|
|
|
Post by wrenboy61 on Jan 14, 2015 1:48:26 GMT
Loved Sherwoods frankness and honesty when manager of Spurs but think at this moment he would not be right for us. We need someone with more experience but that doesn't mean another old manager.I've always liked Eddie Howe at Bournemouth but can't imagine for one minute that he would leave them for us!!!
|
|
|
Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2015 6:31:15 GMT
I can't see TF sacking HR.
If he does he's going for broke with Sherwood. Only things I will say about Sherwood is that he'd have us playing with passion and he wasn't afraid to give the kids at Spurs a chance.
Normally I'd be opposed to changing managers now but, in all honesty, it's not like things can get much worse really. 10 away games in a row without a single point is thoroughly unacceptable regardless of what division you're in.
Who knows, maybe Sherwood would actually address the area of our malaise that HR appears to be ignoring: our defence.
At the end of the day, we have winnable away games left. We need someone whose going to send the lads out with a plan and belief that they can win those games. Whether that be Harry Redknapp or Harry Potter I really don't care, as long as they just get the results we need.
|
|
paulmason
Neil Warnock
![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 711
|
Post by paulmason on Jan 14, 2015 6:52:15 GMT
Sacking Redknapp to bring in Sherwood makes very little sense. As much I dislike the former, the latter had one mediocre spell in charge of an expensively assembled Spurs and seems to think that makes him something special. With two of his former colleagues already at W12, I am sure he would be the person spoken to first, if HR was sacked.
|
|
paulmason
Neil Warnock
![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 711
|
Post by paulmason on Jan 14, 2015 6:55:35 GMT
Loved Sherwoods frankness and honesty when manager of Spurs but think at this moment he would not be right for us. We need someone with more experience but that doesn't mean another old manager.I've always liked Eddie Howe at Bournemouth but can't imagine for one minute that he would leave them for us!!! I remember all the talk about Eddie Howe a few years ago when he left Bournemouth for Burnley. How did that move go for him?
|
|
|
Post by Macmoish on Jan 14, 2015 7:52:57 GMT
|
|
qprha4
Gerry Francis
Lower Loft, to R-Block, to S Block, to X Block… Loyal Supporter
Posts: 53
|
Post by qprha4 on Jan 14, 2015 8:58:26 GMT
Won't happen, Fernandes hasn't got the balls to do it, with everything going on at AirAsia maybe the right time for Fernandes to step down and let Ruben or Amit take the hot seat.
Club will be in a BAD way financially if we get relegated again
|
|
|
Post by Macmoish on Jan 14, 2015 9:01:16 GMT
Looks like Bhatia's sidelined: If Fernandes is too focused elsewhere, it will be one of his Malaysian partners who steps forward.
|
|
|
Post by nadera78 on Jan 14, 2015 9:21:09 GMT
Loved Sherwoods frankness and honesty when manager of Spurs but think at this moment he would not be right for us. We need someone with more experience but that doesn't mean another old manager.I've always liked Eddie Howe at Bournemouth but can't imagine for one minute that he would leave them for us!!! I remember all the talk about Eddie Howe a few years ago when he left Bournemouth for Burnley. How did that move go for him? When he moved up to Burnley his family stayed in Bournemouth, which was obviously problematic. And if you look at the Burnley team that won promotion last season it was largely put together by Howe. Then consider the job he's done at Bournemouth. That said, he wouldn't come anywhere near our basket case of a club.
|
|
|
Post by harr on Jan 14, 2015 9:37:44 GMT
I remember all the talk about Eddie Howe a few years ago when he left Bournemouth for Burnley. How did that move go for him? When he moved up to Burnley his family stayed in Bournemouth, which was obviously problematic. And if you look at the Burnley team that won promotion last season it was largely put together by Howe. Then consider the job he's done at Bournemouth. That said, he wouldn't come anywhere near our basket case of a club. Agree Nedera that is just rubbish saying that about Howe . The players he bought Shackell, Mee, Ings , Trippier, Vokes were part the reason that Burnley got promoted last year and of course he bought Austin nonaynever.net/18901/howe-should-get-some-credit/
|
|
|
Post by wrenboy61 on Jan 14, 2015 10:46:08 GMT
Loved Sherwoods frankness and honesty when manager of Spurs but think at this moment he would not be right for us. We need someone with more experience but that doesn't mean another old manager.I've always liked Eddie Howe at Bournemouth but can't imagine for one minute that he would leave them for us!!! I remember all the talk about Eddie Howe a few years ago when he left Bournemouth for Burnley. How did that move go for him? Reason he came back was for personnel reasons because his wife couldn't settle up north. All Burnley's success at the moment is not solely down to Sean Dyce. Howe had changed the club to how it is now and brought in many of the players such as Ings Vokes and Austin. I'd say he alright!!!!
|
|
|
Post by Macmoish on Jan 14, 2015 10:46:51 GMT
|
|
|
Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 14, 2015 10:52:16 GMT
1) Rueben is currently in charge of QPR operations and if that article is to be believed, TF has started getting involved again over the last few days. If Rueben wants to sack Harry I feel the others would go with that decision.
2) Tim Sherwood did not have just a mediocre time at Spurs, highest win percentage of any manager at Spurs in the Premier League... Although there are big questions around him like the fact he's a bit of a d**k and the whole article about backstabbing people
3) Eddie Howe will not be our next manager, there is less than a 0% chance of that happening. Firstly, why would he want to leave Bournemouth when he knows chances are he'll be in the Prem with them next season anyway with a squad that he's built up and will still be near his family? Secondly the Bournemouth owners would probably get a hernia from laughing so much if we eve bothered to phone them up and ask permission to speak to him
|
|
paulmason
Neil Warnock
![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 711
|
Post by paulmason on Jan 14, 2015 11:08:54 GMT
[/quote]Agree Nedera that is just rubbish saying that about Howe . The players he bought Shackell, Mee, Ings , Trippier, Vokes were part the reason that Burnley got promoted last year and of course he bought Austin nonaynever.net/18901/howe-should-get-some-credit/[/quote]Eddie Howe is an excellant manager at turning average players into great players and has always produced disciplined, hardworking, attacking teams, except when he was at Burnley with all the players you mention he brought to the club (Ings is a no brainier as he was at Bournemouth with him) It is a simple fact of life that some managers work better and get the best from honest, hard working players and some managers work better and get the best from superstars. I think Eddie fits the first category and would not get the same results from so called senior players, at so called bigger clubs. A really good, recent example of this is David Moyes when he went from Everton to Man Utd. The fact he left Old Trafford (for what ever reason) does not mean he is not a very good football manager, it means that the bigger players at Man Utd did not like him/respect him/listen to him and buy into his way of doing things and the results were not good enough. As others have said, Eddie Howe would not come to W12 for all the tea in China, as the club, fans and players are basket cases and he is better off where he is and will keep an average team punching above their weight. I would have Sean Dyche, Nigel Pearson or Eddie Howe at W12, but the problem is, our so called superstars wouldn't.
|
|
robbie
Neil Warnock
![*](//storage.proboards.com/2689787/images/ZbBjpIKVHlqoMdBn6Ijt.png)
Posts: 556
|
Post by robbie on Jan 14, 2015 11:27:12 GMT
I' d love to see Steve maclaren back !
|
|
|
Post by harr on Jan 14, 2015 12:28:22 GMT
Agree Nedera that is just rubbish saying that about Howe . The players he bought Shackell, Mee, Ings , Trippier, Vokes were part the reason that Burnley got promoted last year and of course he bought Austin nonaynever.net/18901/howe-should-get-some-credit/[/quote]Eddie Howe is an excellant manager at turning average players into great players and has always produced disciplined, hardworking, attacking teams, except when he was at Burnley with all the players you mention he brought to the club (Ings is a no brainier as he was at Bournemouth with him) It is a simple fact of life that some managers work better and get the best from honest, hard working players and some managers work better and get the best from superstars. I think Eddie fits the first category and would not get the same results from so called senior players, at so called bigger clubs. A really good, recent example of this is David Moyes when he went from Everton to Man Utd. The fact he left Old Trafford (for what ever reason) does not mean he is not a very good football manager, it means that the bigger players at Man Utd did not like him/respect him/listen to him and buy into his way of doing things and the results were not good enough. As others have said, Eddie Howe would not come to W12 for all the tea in China, as the club, fans and players are basket cases and he is better off where he is and will keep an average team punching above their weight. I would have Sean Dyche, Nigel Pearson or Eddie Howe at W12, but the problem is, our so called superstars wouldn't.[/quote]
|
|
|
Post by harr on Jan 14, 2015 12:35:08 GMT
A little more credit for Howe though as most of the players he brought in Burnley were young players too. Some Managers like Warnock go for the old pros to get you out that League , he gambled on a lot of youth too. Mention the word youth to Harry Redknapp and he thinks your talking an Alien language.
That's half the problem , half those superstars aren't superstars.Their egos are so big they couldn't dare dream of playing for a lesser name Manager. Which was probably half the reason the players wanted Warnock out and weren't playing for him. If that's the case I would rather have players in my team like Burnley have, half the talent and twice the spirit, that will do me . At least I would know what I was getting every week , not turning up to away grounds and getting sweet fa .
|
|
|
Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2015 12:58:01 GMT
All good points, chaps.
Basically, any managerial change would need to involve a complete revision of the whole club set up, management structure and club philosophy.
That won't happen, so I can only see us swapping one big name manager for a slightly younger version of the same gaffer.
We'll see soon enough as I expect Utd will beat us this weekend due to our keystone cops level of defending. Even if we get something there we'll lose next away game anyway.
|
|
|
Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 14, 2015 13:12:07 GMT
Personally, I think we should keep Harry for the rest of the season, as I just can't see an affordable, credible alternative.
Bringing in anyone else would be nothing more than an expensive, pot-luck punt in the hope we might get a bit of new manager 'bounce'.
Let's say it might cost us £3m to sack Harry - why not give him that amount as an additional transfer/loan fund?
Interesting to see that Sherwood is 4/5-on to be our next manager...
4/5 Tim Sherwood
12/1 Glenn Hoddle Steve McClaren Karl Robinson
16/1 Gianfranco Zola Paul Ince Dave Jones Tony Mowbray Dougie Freedman
...some very unlikely and pretty scary names in there!
|
|
|
Post by alfaranger on Jan 14, 2015 13:59:04 GMT
Personally, I think we should keep Harry for the rest of the season, as I just can't see an affordable, credible alternative. Bringing in anyone else would be nothing more than an expensive, pot-luck punt in the hope we might get a bit of new manager 'bounce'. Let's say it might cost us £3m to sack Harry - why not give him that amount as an additional transfer/loan fund? Interesting to see that Sherwood is 4/5-on to be our next manager... 4/5 Tim Sherwood 12/1 Glenn Hoddle Steve McClaren Karl Robinson 16/1 Gianfranco Zola Paul Ince Dave Jones Tony Mowbray Dougie Freedman ...some very unlikely and pretty scary names in there! Paul Ince and Joey Barton, hmmm! That 16/1 bunch, failures all. Still unsure about Tim Sherwood, I know his stats look good but there's no weighting for the shortness of his tenure in the raw stats that are dished up. Best of them is Steve McClaren I believe, also the least likely.
|
|
|
Post by Macmoish on Jan 14, 2015 14:05:54 GMT
|
|
|
Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2015 14:32:22 GMT
Its really depressing talking again about another potential change of manager.
I can't see us beating Man Utd this weekend, though, so if The Mirror are right then here we go again!
I thought Sherwood was to Newcastle, though?
|
|
|
Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 14, 2015 14:49:35 GMT
I thought Sherwood was to Newcastle, though? Odds for the Newcastle job: Remi Garde 5/4 John Carver 2 Tim Sherwood 10 Steve McClaren 10 Bruno Labbadia 14 Paul Clement 33
|
|
|
Post by FloridaR on Jan 14, 2015 15:17:23 GMT
One thing that could have an immediate change & instant impact on the teams mindset is replacing Redknapps Assistant Coaches Jordan/Bond and try poaching a Chelsea assistant manager or recognized Assistant Coaches.
|
|
|
Post by FloridaR on Jan 14, 2015 15:30:23 GMT
If Redknapp has to stay for the sake of stability then he should replace these 3 immediately. Assistant Manager Kevin Bond First Team Coach Joe Jordan First Team Coach Glenn Hoddle
|
|