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Post by londonranger on Dec 30, 2014 1:18:54 GMT
from W. Ham, a striker. Anyone else? thoughts. Says Allardyce refused to play him.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 30, 2014 1:24:18 GMT
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Dec 30, 2014 1:26:00 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Dec 30, 2014 7:55:40 GMT
Wikipedia Profile of Zarate - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Z%C3%A1rateFull name Mauro Matías Zárate Riga Date of birth 18 March 1987 (age 27) Place of birth Haedo, Argentina Height 1.76 m (5 ft 9 1⁄2 in) Youth career Vélez Sarsfield Senior career* Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 2004–2007 Vélez Sársfield 99 (28) 2007–2009 Al-Sadd 6 (4) 2008 → Birmingham City (loan) 14 (4) 2008–2009 → Lazio (loan) 36 (13) 2009–2013 Lazio 68 (12) 2011–2012 → Internazionale (loan) 22 (2) 2013–2014 Vélez Sarsfield 29 (19) 2014– West Ham United 7 (2) National team 2007 Argentina U20 5 (2) Flashback
By Daily Star reporter / Published 22nd January 2012
QPR boss Mark Hughes joins Arsenal in hunt for Lazio striker Mauro ZarateMARK HUGHESS has joined Arsenal in the chase for Lazio’s Argentine striker Mauro Zarate, 24. Arsenal were linked 18 months ago but were put off by a £35million tag Arsenal were linked 18 months ago but were put off by a £35million tag. But Lazio say they will now listen to an offer in the region of £10m for the player who is currently on loan at Inter Mila www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/231533/QPR-boss-Mark-Hughes-joins-Arsenal-in-hunt-for-Lazio-striker-Mauro-ZarateTalksport QPR lead the chase for Lazio star By Ian Cruise (ian_Cruise) | Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Mauro Zarate is being hunted by Mark Hughes as the new QPR boss seeks to kickstart his Loftus Road revolution. Hughes is eager to bring in more firepower and sources in Italy claim he has set his sights on Lazio star Zarate, who is currently on loan at Inter Milan. It appears, however, that Lazio are open to the prospect of selling Zarate in the transfer window and that has alerted Hughes, who will be backed by investment from majority shareholder Tony Fernandes. The striker has experience of English football from his time at Birmingham, and was linked with a move to Arsenal last summer. Newcastle and Bolton are also thought to be monitoring the situation. Zarate, 24, is understood to be keen on a return to England although Lazio are hoping that interest from numerous Premier League clubs will help push his price up. Read more at talksport.com/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1470/51/qpr-lead-chase-lazio-star#sHoZoVB7B78jWEh3.99FLASHBACK 3 YEARS - Discussing Signing Zarate...qprreport.proboards.com/thread/27731/window-cisse-samba-smith-mackie?q=zarate
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Post by rangerjake on Dec 30, 2014 16:01:02 GMT
I worry about a guy who would slam his manager in the papers on the way out the door. I mean it's not like West Ham are propping up the table, Allardyce has barely put a foot wrong this season. I want players who keep their mouth shut and work hard not someone who is going to start running his gob when things don't go his way. Oh, and this article claims he and Vargas are not on good terms because Zarate is trying to switch allegiances and play for Chile internationally. This should do wonders for team spirit. hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/12/18/jorge-sampaoli-defends-mauro-zarate-despite-criticism-from-furio/
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Post by harr on Dec 30, 2014 22:53:06 GMT
crikey , is there any way back for Zarate after these comments ?
Sam Allardyce: Mauro Zarate not good enough for West Ham
West Ham boss Sam Allardyce will let Argentina striker Mauro Zarate join QPR on loan because he "wasn't good enough" to play regularly at Upton Park. Zarate, 27, was quoted in the national press as saying that Allardyce refused to play him because he was signed by Hammers co-chairman David Sullivan. Allardyce claimed that was "not true" and offered an alternative reason. "He wasn't good enough," Allardyce, 60, replied when asked why Zarate had not featured more for the Hammers. Zarate has scored twice in eight appearances for the Hammers since he joined from Velez Sarsfield last summer. He has fallen behind fellow summer signings Enner Valencia and Diafra Sakho in the pecking order, while Allardyce also has Carlton Cole and Andy Carroll at his disposal. "I base my feelings on what I consider to be the best team. It's a professional, clinical decision, not an emotional one," added Allardyce. "Mauro is not good enough to play as regularly as he wants compared to the others. It's as simple as that."
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Post by alfaranger on Dec 30, 2014 23:08:25 GMT
crikey , is there any way back for Zarate after these comments ? Sam Allardyce: Mauro Zarate not good enough for West Ham West Ham boss Sam Allardyce will let Argentina striker Mauro Zarate join QPR on loan because he "wasn't good enough" to play regularly at Upton Park. Zarate, 27, was quoted in the national press as saying that Allardyce refused to play him because he was signed by Hammers co-chairman David Sullivan. Allardyce claimed that was "not true" and offered an alternative reason. "He wasn't good enough," Allardyce, 60, replied when asked why Zarate had not featured more for the Hammers. Zarate has scored twice in eight appearances for the Hammers since he joined from Velez Sarsfield last summer. He has fallen behind fellow summer signings Enner Valencia and Diafra Sakho in the pecking order, while Allardyce also has Carlton Cole and Andy Carroll at his disposal. "I base my feelings on what I consider to be the best team. It's a professional, clinical decision, not an emotional one," added Allardyce. "Mauro is not good enough to play as regularly as he wants compared to the others. It's as simple as that." Seems to me that that's about right. If he was any good, they would keep him or he'd go to a bigger club. He ain't sitting at home thinking, "I don't care who comes in for me, I'm going to QPR".
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Post by steeleyranger on Dec 31, 2014 2:07:11 GMT
Reading comments from West Ham fans-seems as though they rate him and feel that Sam Allardyce is making a mistake in letting him go. They would rather it was Nolan,Cole or Allardyce himself who was going!!Seems like there is something there about him not being signed by the manager-but then that's been the case with most of their successes this season ! I'd conclude that he could be a very useful acquisition-skilful and quick who according to West Ham supporters would link well with Austen?
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Post by sharky on Jan 1, 2015 0:35:28 GMT
Assume that he would start instead of Zamora. Would that work with our long ball style?
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Post by harr on Jan 6, 2015 15:24:20 GMT
Hopefully he can get a few goals
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Post by londonranger on Jan 6, 2015 17:14:54 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Jan 6, 2015 17:15:33 GMT
They can thank us for praying so hard overnight,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 17:46:15 GMT
Might be ok , still cannot understand how we spent nigh on 10 mill onanistic injury prone Sandro though when we were crying out for a striker and Deeney seemed to fit the bill and also that Icelandic guy from Ajax
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Post by corndog on Jan 6, 2015 18:27:23 GMT
Jack Sullivan tweeted on it and West Ham supporters are not happy to say the least, so I think that's a good thing. Click on it to see the West Ham supporters reaction. /photo/1
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Post by Bushman on Jan 6, 2015 18:41:41 GMT
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Post by alfaranger on Jan 7, 2015 8:46:52 GMT
Ok! Now it's a 'reality', how is he going to fit in. Will he be chucked in straight away on Saturday and Zamora left out. I guess so as that's the reason we needed another striker. Sharky mentioned our long ball style [with Zamora as the hold up player]. No Zamora - No long ball? Charlie isn't lightening quick so is it going to be Zarate and Vargas for speed and deft play behind Charlie - or what? Exciting I think!
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Post by harr on Jan 7, 2015 10:33:11 GMT
I don't think Vargas has been used enough by Redknapp and the coaches at QPR? Chile are no mugs as an international team have no worries of playing him as a striker . In fact I wonder if certain players at are Club are actually progressing or not ? Hoillett was a better player some time ago than what he is now ? HOILLET, M PHILLIPS, TAARABT, even ONUOHA all gone backwards a little as players IMO. Traore was average and still playing average . A)Have they gone backwards as they have had injuries and never returned to the same fitness levels ? B)Have they gone backwards as they can't get into the team, not playing enough and disinterested? C)Have they gone backwards because our previous Managers knew where to play them and get the best from them ? D)Have they gone backwards because our coaches are CRAP? E.There just not good enough and we paid too much for them.
On a personal level, I like Nedum and Junior, love to see them really shine. Real success of the season Karl Henry, cost barely nothing and doing a great job.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 7, 2015 12:28:27 GMT
"D"
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2015 11:45:25 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2015 12:13:55 GMT
Mirror - March 2010 Mauro Zarate in 'fascist' salute storm Mar 21, 2010 00:00 By Sunday People Former Birmingham City striker Mauro Zarate has caused a storm in Italy after being photographed giving a fascist salute to Lazio fans. Former Birmingham City striker Mauro Zarate has caused a storm in Italy after being photographed giving a fascist salute to Lazio fans. Zarate, 23, was sitting out Sunday's match against Bari while serving a two-match ban for insulting a referee during the game against Sampdoria earlier this month. Pictures showing his fascist gesture to Lazio's infamous Ultras were flashed across Italy and authorities are under pressure to take action against the Argentinian. Paolo Di Canio was fined £7,000 in 2005 for celebrating a Lazio goal the same way. One source said: "Technically, he could be in trouble for what he did as it is against the law - I understand he is claiming he had no idea what he was doing or what it meant but that's no excuse." www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/mauro-zarate-in-fascist-salute-storm-1684069
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 8, 2015 13:23:57 GMT
We do pick 'em...
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2015 14:23:11 GMT
This is in everything: Today saying HOddle says not interested in Newcastle. Whereas to my reading he didnt say anything like that.
As for the Salute...SOme QPR Fan tweeted to the club re this. I hadnt been aware previously
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Jan 8, 2015 14:31:20 GMT
We do pick 'em... Maybe.
On one hand I would prefer to get the facts before making judgement or comment
On the other hand I would also ask who and why is a photo from 2010 suddenly being dragged to the surface and posted without the facts behind it.
We have this, the twisting of Harry's comments when asked about Ched Evans, and even Sky Sports now mis-reporting Harry's very clear statement that he had not even thought of Salah until the press conference as "Harry says he wants to bring in Chelsea winger Mohamed Salah on loan "
57, I agree with your comments. He did a stupid thing 5 years ago and it is being dragged up again now, why.? How many other players, in the Premiership, have stepped out of line, in a major way, in the past 5 years, with no repercussions. How about J Terry, racial abuse, J Barton, assault, for starters. His previous manager, big Sam, seemed to be forgiving. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2733178/West-Ham-boss-Sam-Allardyce-heaps-praise-summer-signings-Mauro-Zarate-Cheikhou-Kouyate-Palace-display.html
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Post by nw5hoop on Jan 8, 2015 16:56:47 GMT
It was me who tweeted the club. So I suppose in this instance I'm the person who brought it up. Can't remember where I heard about it. So why did I drag it up? 1/ Because Zarate gave a fascist salute. That in itself is worth mentioning. It's not just a Roman salute, as some people claim. The Roman salute died after the fall of Rome, and was revived by Mussolini. The Lazio fans who used it (at a club historically associated with Italian fascism) are the far right ultras. In Italy, this salute is treated as fascist, hence Di Canio getting punished when he did it. 2/ Because he never apologised for it or expressed any regret. His agent simply said, slightly ridiculously, that Zarate had never heard of Hitler or Mussolini. I don't think he fascist so much as idiotic. But I wish he had actually apologised. 3/ Because I don't want the club I support blithely signing players who think fascist salutes are OK. They're not. They are the symbol of genocide. QPR has a long and proud multi ethnic history on and off the pitch. Someone who does fascist salutes for a laugh doesn't sit easily with that. 4/ I wish the club hadn't signed Barton. But at least he never gave a fascist salute. And as for Terry - that's a pretty ridiculous thing to bring up. Imagine what would happen if we signed him - I wouldn't be alone in being outraged.
I'm not asking anyone else to do anything. I was concerned, so I contacted the club. Got a stock reply that all players are reminded of their responsibilities when they join the club, and the club will make no further statement. I'm not going to be cheering Zarate, but I'm not going to be boycotting the club or anything. I was there before Redknapp or Fernandes or Zarate and I'll be there after they're gone.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2015 17:37:05 GMT
Thanks for posting.
I can only say that if I had known about it earlier, I myself would have posted and tweeted about it.
There is absolutely no question in my mind that QPR fans should be aware of who's playing for them.
What if anything they should do or say is up to them.
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 8, 2015 18:24:00 GMT
It was me who tweeted the club. So I suppose in this instance I'm the person who brought it up. Can't remember where I heard about it. So why did I drag it up? 1/ Because Zarate gave a fascist salute. That in itself is worth mentioning. It's not just a Roman salute, as some people claim. The Roman salute died after the fall of Rome, and was revived by Mussolini. The Lazio fans who used it (at a club historically associated with Italian fascism) are the far right ultras. In Italy, this salute is treated as fascist, hence Di Canio getting punished when he did it. 2/ Because he never apologised for it or expressed any regret. His agent simply said, slightly ridiculously, that Zarate had never heard of Hitler or Mussolini. I don't think he fascist so much as idiotic. But I wish he had actually apologised. 3/ Because I don't want the club I support blithely signing players who think fascist salutes are OK. They're not. They are the symbol of genocide. QPR has a long and proud multi ethnic history on and off the pitch. Someone who does fascist salutes for a laugh doesn't sit easily with that. 4/ I wish the club hadn't signed Barton. But at least he never gave a fascist salute. And as for Terry - that's a pretty ridiculous thing to bring up. Imagine what would happen if we signed him - I wouldn't be alone in being outraged. I'm not asking anyone else to do anything. I was concerned, so I contacted the club. Got a stock reply that all players are reminded of their responsibilities when they join the club, and the club will make no further statement. I'm not going to be cheering Zarate, but I'm not going to be boycotting the club or anything. I was there before Redknapp or Fernandes or Zarate and I'll be there after they're gone. Good on yah NW5 Just remember that Ary believes in second chances and fully sympathizes with Barton, Paul Gasgoine, Ched Evans & the new boy from Sarf merican who's a Nazi Saluter called ZaaRAr'tay.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2015 22:28:42 GMT
When West Ham Signed in May of this Year BBC West Ham: Mauro Zarate signs for Hammers from Argentina West Ham have signed Argentine forward Mauro Zarate on a three-year contract from Velez Sarsfield. The 27-year-old will join with a further one-year option when the international transfer window opens next month. The former Lazio forward scored four goals while on loan for Birmingham in the Premier League in 2008. He said: "I hope I will bring goals to the squad. I will also bring dribbling skills and other attacking qualities." Zarate was top scorer in Argentina last season with 20 goals in 35 matches in all competitions.' However, this second stint at Velez Sarsfield followed a controversial four-year spell at Lazio. In 2010, while serving a two-match suspension at the Biancocelesti for insulting a referee, he was photographed giving a fascist salute amid the 'Ultras' section of fans. Zarate's spokesperson later claimed the player was unaware of the significance of his actions. In April last year, Zarate was spotted on holiday in the Maldives when he was supposed to be in Argentina receiving medical treatment. At the time, he was not training with Lazio's first team because of disciplinary issues. www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27613830
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Post by sharky on Jan 8, 2015 23:18:40 GMT
Thanks for posting nw5hoop. I appreciate your reasons. I also appreciate blue's response.
Which of us hasn't over their lives done something stupid that we shouldn't have done and wouldn't have done in retrospect.
Enough said, let's judge Zarate on how he plays not a very stupid thing he did five years ago.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 8, 2015 23:28:55 GMT
"I disapprove of what you sign", but I won't defend to my death the right to sign it playing football" Voltaire variation.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 9, 2015 9:14:51 GMT
hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/05/23/five-things-you-didnt-know-about-west-ham-man-mauro-zarate/5. In an attempt to endear himself to the Lazio ultras, Zarate would often take to the stands of the Stadio Olimpico to watch games alongside these avid and notoriously pro-fascist fans. However he landed himself in hot water during one game back in March 2010, after being photographed during a loss to Lazio giving what appeared to be fascist salute to the team. A spokesman later claimed that the striker was unaware of the "significance" of the gesture and that he was not even aware of who Benito Mussolini or Adolf Hitler were.
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