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Post by kilburnhoop on Nov 3, 2014 15:59:58 GMT
10 games 19 games no difference. We need to finish above 3 teams to stay up. That could be 45 or 25 points, thats my point. We are currently 2 points from safety. Yes I take that point on board Kilburn . We will finish above Burnley, need to find two more I never expected us to be mid table that's for sure . its all about team permances and points if we pick up a win against City or Newcastle we will be in a better place and less pressure on having to win those four home games against bottom half teams. As you know we never do things the easy way and one of those 4 teams might bite us on the bottom. Thats why we support them!
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Post by harr on Nov 3, 2014 16:24:53 GMT
Yes I take that point on board Kilburn . We will finish above Burnley, need to find two more I never expected us to be mid table that's for sure . its all about team permances and points if we pick up a win against City or Newcastle we will be in a better place and less pressure on having to win those four home games against bottom half teams. As you know we never do things the easy way and one of those 4 teams might bite us on the bottom. Thats why we support them! Yes for sure. Maybe our season will be like West Hams last year . 10 points from 12 games . 17 th 15 points from 20 games. 19th Finished 40 pts 13th. And look where they are this season. Remarkably they won three games prior to Jan and eight after Jan . You have to admire Gold and Sullivan for sticking with Sam. After there first day win of the season only two more until Jan. I am not convinced that Harry R is the man to keep us up this season as you know but while we keep playing and some encouraging signs, only fair he gets a bit more time. Win three of Leics,Burnley,WBA and Palace and draw one could see us in a decent position but no slip ups. Under Warnock we kept losing to all the bottom teams so will be interesting how we tackle them. We got 7 points from Hull,Sunderland,Stoke,Villa . Would you settle for 7 pts from those next four after City ? Possibly,so, if we can pluck a real surprise result.
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Post by corndog on Nov 3, 2014 18:51:03 GMT
I think the most important thing right now is this team needs to start getting points period. It's not panic, it's just the fact that the team is in it's best form so far in the season and the key to staying up is getting points when you are playing well and not going into overly extended periods of poor form. At this point we still don't know if this is the best this team gets or if they will get even better. But one thing that will help improve and build confidence is getting results. Strong efforts against top sides can be encouraging, especially after a poor start. But if this team doesn't start getting rewards for their efforts heads could drop and the team could back into decline. This is how Pulis kept Palace up, they started with strong efforts but still losing/drawing and then shortly afterwards they started getting points and it kept them going.
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Post by harr on Nov 3, 2014 18:54:20 GMT
I think the most important thing right now is this team needs to start getting points period. It's not panic, it's just the fact that the team is in it's best form so far in the season and the key to staying up is getting points when you are playing well and not going into overly extended periods of poor form. At this point we still don't know if this is the best this team gets or if they will get even better. But one thing that will help improve and build confidence is getting results. Strong efforts against top sides can be encouraging, especially after a poor start. But if this team doesn't start getting rewards for their efforts heads could drop and the team could back into decline. This is how Pulis kept Palace up, they started with strong efforts but still losing/drawing and then shortly afterwards they started getting points and it kept them going. Good post Corndog , agreed .
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Post by londonranger on Nov 4, 2014 23:11:51 GMT
Hales me old mucker, Are we staying up, or meeting Watford on the way down? Just talked to my Ruislip mate.r
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2014 7:51:31 GMT
Hales me old mucker, Are we staying up, or meeting Watford on the way down? Just talked to my Ruislip mate.r Who knows London. I really hope so . Looks like TF will stick with Harry until Christmas or all season. If we pick up points against WBA Burnley,Leics and Palace at home before Christmas , we could well stay up . If we carry on at 0.7 pts per game we will only have 14 pts at Christmas, that wouldn't be enough to keep us up in my opinion. Although WHU won 8 games in the second half season and had 15 pts Jan 1st. Anythings possible. Though our home games in 2015 are tougher. I will give you an answer on 2/1/2015 if that's ok at the minute still everything to play for, just need to keep the tempo as the last three matches and not revert back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 21:27:40 GMT
Point against city and all is well.
3 pts would of been better but team morale is more important in the run up to xmas.
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Post by harr on Nov 11, 2014 7:53:18 GMT
Point against city and all is well. 3 pts would of been better but team morale is more important in the run up to xmas. Morale seems good Maude that's half the battle . Just a case of getting as many points possible from those 4 homes games with Leics,Burnley,WBA,Palace Three wins and a draw 10 pts out of these would be fantastic. Even 2 wins and two draws 8 pts would be ok. Just don't let any of these four teams take Max pts off us . Thats what happened in our previous seasons, never took enough points off bottom teams. You never know we might get the odd point from Newcastle, Swansea , Everton or Arsenal.Certainly due one .
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 11, 2014 12:50:49 GMT
We have a reasonable record at Newcastle, so who knows
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Post by superckat on Nov 12, 2014 1:59:07 GMT
When the fixtures came out I looked at our last 5 or so games. I expected us to struggle and be in a relegation battle most of the season. On seeing our last 5 or 6 games. I expect us to be taking the elevator down to the Championship. We looked good in our past few matches. But it's the QPR way to impress in the big games get little reward and then mess up in games we should get something from.
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Post by timewaster on Nov 12, 2014 2:44:11 GMT
We have improved so much between our second half of last season and now. I feel more confident of us staying up now than before the season started. We are starting to look like a premiership team at last.
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Post by harr on Nov 18, 2014 6:43:58 GMT
As much as every game is important .
Still think our week next weekend starting Leics Home, Swansea Away and Burnley at home within a week is one of the biggest weeks in our season.
What would you suggest as a bare minimum for the three games, 4 points ? Win against Burnley or Leics ( ideally both) and draw the other one , just must not lose one of those two and get what we can at Swansea .
I would take 4-5 points from the 3 games, would be nice to win two though .
Would you put a weaker team out at Swansea?
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Post by timewaster on Nov 19, 2014 5:14:52 GMT
Would you put a weaker team out at Swansea? No way We should go to Swansea trying to win the game I would only play a weakened team on Boxing Day against Arsenal because of our game two days later
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Post by sharky on Nov 19, 2014 23:00:09 GMT
Would you put a weaker team out at Swansea? No way We should go to Swansea trying to win the game I would only play a weakened team on Boxing Day against Arsenal because of our game two days later I wouldn't consider a weakened side except for the FA Cup. We can't afford to give away any possible points!
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 20, 2014 10:44:32 GMT
No way We should go to Swansea trying to win the game I would only play a weakened team on Boxing Day against Arsenal because of our game two days later I wouldn't consider a weakened side except for the FA Cup. We can't afford to give away any possible points! Which is why we must address the imbalance in the squad because playing Charlie Austin is the right thing to do but 3 lots of 90 minutes in a 7 days increases the risk of him getting injured. If we lose him for 10 or 12 games like we did last season we are screwed and the only backup is Vargas.
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kilburnhoop
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Post by kilburnhoop on Nov 20, 2014 13:11:47 GMT
Wish i only had to work for 270mins a week!!
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Post by harr on Dec 21, 2014 10:44:11 GMT
19 - 23 points by end of 2014 and we are in good shape. Hi Maude I said 20-22 pts after Palace and as seen here you said 19-23 would be a good total The home form means Almost there . Palace win to get there And a point at Arsenal to give us 21 . Seriously , if we could beat Palace and draw with Swansea , I would probably take 4 points as a minimum from our next three games over Christmas giving us 21 points after 20 games . That might mean we have 18 games to go and five wins , three draws , lose 10 and we end up with 39 points . Then a 5-0 Cup Win
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Post by corndog on Dec 21, 2014 17:36:30 GMT
I have to agree Harr, 4 points from the next 3 would be acceptable and put us at 21 points, right above the original target of 20. Any points at Arsenal would be a bonus and judging from our away form, unexpected. We should expect a win against Palace, although I think it's harder than it looks and should be able to get a draw from Swansea. Then the road points better start coming, and will need to get points off good teams at Loftus Road.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 23:17:47 GMT
Not many teams below us will get 20 pts.
So I reckon 3 points from next two is good .
But a away win is coming and I call it arsenal.
Happy Xmas H my friend.
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Post by alfaranger on Dec 22, 2014 9:35:17 GMT
My year end target is midnight December 31st! After that my football target is to be in 17th position or preferable a few places higher by midnight 24th May 2015. Who we beat or lose to along the way is not that important as long as we get to the May 24th target. Winning the next three games would be great and I have a gut feel we may get something at Arsenal - but if we lose all 3 games it will not be a disaster as long as we make the May 24th target. I like playing the short term guessing game and working out where we may be if results go a certain way - its all part of the fun and I have been doing it for many many years. The fun stops though when the gloom and doom merchants hit the panic button in 10 days time if the guessing game results do not work out as planned. Keep the faith! I think the panic buttons has a bit of earlier use already 57.
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Post by sharky on Dec 22, 2014 14:11:04 GMT
I would like us to have more than 20 points by the years end
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Post by harr on Dec 22, 2014 15:05:22 GMT
Not many teams below us will get 20 pts. So I reckon 3 points from next two is good . But a away win is coming and I call it arsenal. Happy Xmas H my friend. Yeah I would take 20 pts at the end of December, 21 if you forced me All the best to you and you family for Xmas Maude, don't forget to treat the pup too. Your brave calling the first Away win Arsenal , reckon Burnley we must get something at least a draw, think we may have to right off the first half of the season away games with nothing but you never know ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 11:20:48 GMT
Not many teams below us will get 20 pts. So I reckon 3 points from next two is good . But a away win is coming and I call it arsenal. Happy Xmas H my friend. Yeah I would take 20 pts at the end of December, 21 if you forced me All the best to you and you family for Xmas Maude, don't forget to treat the pup too. Your brave calling the first Away win Arsenal , reckon Burnley we must get something at least a draw, think we may have to right off the first half of the season away games with nothing but you never know ? Dunno about brave. More stupid
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Post by harr on Dec 28, 2014 21:40:53 GMT
Yeah I would take 20 pts at the end of December, 21 if you forced me All the best to you and you family for Xmas Maude, don't forget to treat the pup too. Your brave calling the first Away win Arsenal , reckon Burnley we must get something at least a draw, think we may have to right off the first half of the season away games with nothing but you never know ? Dunno about brave. More stupid Getting there Maude . A win Thursday could be a massive win for us, could do with Routledge not playing . Just noticed Burnley,Sunderland,Palace,Leicester and WBA all away Thursday so hopefully might gain a few points .
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Post by harr on Jan 10, 2015 22:40:25 GMT
Not many teams below us will get 20 pts. So I reckon 3 points from next two is good . But a away win is coming and I call it arsenal. Happy Xmas H my friend. Still waiting Maude
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Post by harr on Jan 31, 2015 18:05:39 GMT
Not many teams below us will get 20 pts. So I reckon 3 points from next two is good . But a away win is coming and I call it arsenal. Happy Xmas H my friend. Still waiting Maude ? In fact everyone pretty much predicted we would have more than 20 points by the end of the year . Into Feb now still 19 ...
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Post by harr on Mar 23, 2015 9:46:29 GMT
19 - 23 points by end of 2014 and we are in good shape. We in good shape Maude Its almost April and still in that band ffs. Amazing to think we had 18 pts at the end of 2014. 19 points on Jan the first when we let in that crazy last minute Swansea goal. Three months later we move on by a massive 3 points.
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