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Post by wrenboy61 on Feb 17, 2014 14:30:44 GMT
No, Hoillet was a Hughes signing, Tarore possibly a Warnock signing? Shows that signing other Prem or ex-Prem players rarely works. You just end up with complacent, over-paid players. Having all these players on loan is also not working.We should be looking at younger talent in the Championship for the majority of our future signings and coaching players to continually improve themselves. This takes time but I'm sure the majority of our fans would prefer to see gradual, but visible improvement over the revolving door of marquee signings and fire-fighting that has characterised our policy over the past 3 years. I agree with you that we should be looking to the Championship and lower leagues for younger talented players and also that so many loan players as Warnock said is no good for team spirit. Also surely Harry must have had some younger players out there who used to play for him? ??
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Post by scubahoop on Feb 17, 2014 14:59:24 GMT
Agree with what you say about the midfield, Wrenboy. Barton has either had to cope with Carroll or Krancjar alongside him and neither player pulls their weight, especially Krancjar who I am rapidly losing patience with. At least Carroll has the excuse that he is young and going forward he has looked promising at times. As for Krancjar it's like having Jim Morrison c.1971,i.e overweight and sloppy, in the middle of our team!! As you point out, it is a real shame Faurlin got injured. He and Barton worked extremely well in the middle together for parts of the 2011-12 season when we stayed up. I would drop Krancjar completely and play Barton with O'Neil or Jenas in the middle. Hoillet and Traore out wide and Doyle with Keane or Maiga up front. Also, Ned surely has to come back into the middle of defence? Put Hill at left-back and BAE on the bench. Should make us stronger defensively but also gives us something going forward too.
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Post by eels on Feb 17, 2014 22:47:29 GMT
Doeman, who is Kunthoop ? or is that just glossed over ? sounds offensive to me , did Admin spot that ? be nice to know ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 23:19:08 GMT
Doeman, who is Kunthoop ? or is that just glossed over ? sounds offensive to me , did Admin spot that ? be nice to know ? Doeman gets his C's and K's mixed up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 23:25:19 GMT
Doeman, who is Kunthoop ? or is that just glossed over ? sounds offensive to me , did Admin spot that ? be nice to know ? Best not get involved eels, not everyone gets on in life, as long as it dont get to personal or come with threats of violence shouldn't have to worry anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 23:47:21 GMT
For me the main reasons for the slump in form has obviously been the loss of 3 main players but also we are getting overrun in midfield. Since Harry has put Kranjar alongside Barton we've struggled. He's just not mobile enough to get around the pitch and is not defensively minded at all. He never looks to pick up the runners from deep so Barton is having to cover to much space. This is where we're also missing Ale faulin not as skilful as Kranjar but put him along Barton and it tightens up that central midfield position. So looking at who we have to step into that position there are a few options Jenas,Carroll,Henry,Benayoun or O'neill. Don't honestly know which one I would pick but just feel one of those would do a better job defensively than Kranjar. When we played a more defensive midfield we were also tighter at the back and not letting in many goals but since Kranjar has been in there we've let in 6 in the last 2 home games. For me Kranjar needs to play in that position behind the striker because although we have been starting games with 2 strikers lately we're not really playing with 2 up front 1 striker is dropping in to support the midfield. I agree wrenboy, Kranjcar is no good in the midfield role he is currently asked to play, for me i would go with a 3-5-2 formation. Hill Dunne Onhua back 3, then Hoilet and Traore as wing backs, Barton and Jenas in the middle, Jenas holding Barton box to box, Kranjcar attacking midfield, Doyle and Keane up front.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Apr 6, 2014 17:27:27 GMT
Doeman, who is Kunthoop ? or is that just glossed over ? sounds offensive to me , did Admin spot that ? be nice to know ? Doeman gets his C's and K's mixed up Oh no just noticed 'andrewqpr' has left, bloody shame that, good lad is Andy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 21:31:43 GMT
Maude gone, Andrew gone, cpr no where to be seen? well not on here anyway, Harlow gone too, if your reading this chaps. be good stay safe hope you all come back one day.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Apr 6, 2014 23:34:20 GMT
A lot of posters who made me so welcome when I joined this board no longer here. Makes me sad they've decided to move on, doesn't quite feel the same without them for me.
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Post by jjqpr on Apr 6, 2014 23:45:51 GMT
A lot of posters who made me so welcome when I joined this board no longer here. Makes me sad they've decided to move on, doesn't quite feel the same without them for me. Whys maude left again?! This board is sadly not what it was even since I joined relatively recently...I guess when you get a lot of passionate people into one place things are going to spill over. I tend to be a glass half empty person in general but even I'm finding this board too depressing at times! I'm not going to suggest we all try and get on as it's never going to happen, but I guess we can all try and improve language and not give out personal insults against other r's fans...what happened to the band of brothers ?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 1:05:03 GMT
All Qpr fans are my brothers and sisters. but sa la vie if your not keen on moi Were a tribe, tribes stick together, if they dont then tribe ceases to survive, fall outs and arguments happen, push comes to shove we will always pull together for the common good of the club if things go belly up.
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Post by marshbowles10 on Apr 7, 2014 5:44:25 GMT
We are the Club.
The manager, the owners the players are just temporary.
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Post by Roller on Apr 7, 2014 6:44:14 GMT
Maude gone, Andrew gone, cpr no where to be seen? well not on here anyway, Harlow gone too, if your reading this chaps. be good stay safe hope you all come back one day. I don't know what you are worried about, my whole forum seems to have disappeared!
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 7, 2014 8:28:48 GMT
Doeman, who is Kunthoop ? or is that just glossed over ? sounds offensive to me , did Admin spot that ? be nice to know ? Best not get involved eels, not everyone gets on in life, as long as it dont get to personal or come with threats of violence shouldn't have to worry anyone else. I'm going to have update but no, I didn't see. I can't read every thread. So if people see language or postings that they find problematic, notify the moderators and we'll make sure to take a look and consider. Please do not use that language - even if is to describe the slime of Chelsea. Thanks
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 7, 2014 8:32:13 GMT
As for departures: Much as I might like to, I can neither force people to post or force people to stay. (Or force them to return)
A few people over the years, have obviously been been banned. But not that many.
Maude's departure - hopefully he'll return. I wasnt quite clear re his departure. If his tweets are why he left - ie disappointment re me and "Tony,' what can I do.
Harlow I absolutely didnt want to leave.
CPR and several other moderators haven't left: Just radically cut back their posting/involvement
Haqpr1963 obviously
as for the "Band of brothers" - I believe in the concept. But what others do is up to them'
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Post by Jon Doeman on Apr 7, 2014 9:20:46 GMT
Best not get involved eels, not everyone gets on in life, as long as it dont get to personal or come with threats of violence shouldn't have to worry anyone else. I'm going to have update but no, I didn't see. I can't read every thread. So if people see language or postings that they find problematic, notify the moderators and we'll make sure to take a look and consider. Please do not use that language - even if is to describe the slime of Chelsea. Thanks My apologies to you & anyone offended by that language. But you do have to be a bit thick in the head to start taking cheap shots by changing letters in user names, when you've quite rightly called yourself K*nthoop.!!!!
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Post by Jon Doeman on Apr 7, 2014 9:22:11 GMT
As for departures: Much as I might like to, I can neither force people to post or force people to stay. (Or force them to return) A few people over the years, have obviously been been banned. But not that many. Maude's departure - hopefully he'll return. I wasnt quite clear re his departure. If his tweets are why he left - ie disappointment re me and "Tony,' what can I do. Harlow I absolutely didnt want to leave. CPR and several other moderators haven't left: Just radically cut back their posting/involvement Haqpr1963 obviously as for the "Band of brothers" - I believe in the concept. But what others do is up to them' Didn't know Maude had left again ! Come back mate .
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Apr 7, 2014 9:36:15 GMT
I agree, things have certainly been less comfortable since Maclaren left.
But we have been hit with an incredible, long-lasting injury list.
But what gives us a God-given right to automatic promotion, any more than Man U or Arsenal have a right to a top four Champions League qualifying spot?
I'm not saying I'm not disappointed with our form in the last couple of months, but I'd taken a play-off place if offered it last August.
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Post by kenthoop on Apr 7, 2014 10:55:17 GMT
with all due respect doeman i have never used foul language either to you or about you so for you keep calling me Kunthoop is something for the admin and i intend in reporting the abuse and see if something gets done about it because it hasnt up until now
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 7, 2014 11:11:08 GMT
As I alluded to above, I don't see; do please report.
You can love Refknapp or hate him as QPR Manager; praise Fernandes or condemn him - Just do civilly without name calling.
I totally reject criticisms that this board is "too negative" That's our right and if that upsets posters, I'm sorry and encourage alternate views.
But name calling each other or belittling or making posters hesitate to post for fear, ..,those are no nos on this boatd
And I apologize for not enforcing more vigorously
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Post by jjqpr on Apr 7, 2014 11:19:50 GMT
As for departures: Much as I might like to, I can neither force people to post or force people to stay. (Or force them to return) A few people over the years, have obviously been been banned. But not that many. Maude's departure - hopefully he'll return. I wasnt quite clear re his departure. If his tweets are why he left - ie disappointment re me and "Tony,' what can I do. Harlow I absolutely didnt want to leave. CPR and several other moderators haven't left: Just radically cut back their posting/involvement Haqpr1963 obviously as for the "Band of brothers" - I believe in the concept. But what others do is up to them' For those of us who don't follow maude on twitter, what exactly was said, by him, and what was said by you RE: Tony, to make him upset?!
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Post by Jon Doeman on Apr 7, 2014 11:49:33 GMT
with all due respect doeman i have never used foul language either to you or about you so for you keep calling me Kunthoop is something for the admin and i intend in reporting the abuse and see if something gets done about it because it hasnt up until now Don't dish it out if you can't take it! I found you misspelling my family name for a cheap shot very offensive, maybe I should've gone whining to the mods like a little bitch!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 12:50:10 GMT
Mac you say in your post about maude he left because of you, then you say what can i do, well you could speak to him about things clear the air that would be a start, tit for tat between jon and kent, i think its best if you dont mind me suggesting that you both draw a line and not step over it from now, not that is my business. i like reading both of your posts be better if you stuck to Qpr not personel insults, that kind of thing doesn't encourage new members to join.
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 7, 2014 12:53:59 GMT
Re me and Maudes: I have zero probs with him: We've not had a feud/quarrel. Im only guessing why he left based on his tweets twitter.com/maudesfishAnd I'm sure he knows he's welcome anytime A few people are on my **** List. Maudes is certainly NOT one of them
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 15:03:33 GMT
Fair enough mac. not that it is my business anyway.
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Post by terryb on Apr 7, 2014 16:48:19 GMT
For what it is worth.
Please could everyone take a step back & think about how their posting can have an effect on others & refrain from abusing either their given or posting name.
I may be guilty of this myself at times (I hope not), although I have certainly been derogatry with the name of Harry Redknapp, Briatore, Eccleston etc. When a bout of depression kicks in with me I do sometimes lose some objectivity!
I certainly don't agree with all of this board regarding HR but if I have oversteped the mark in my postings please accept my apologies.
Can we draw a line under this altercation between Jon & Kent & move on from here?
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Post by Bushman on Apr 7, 2014 17:02:20 GMT
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Post by jjqpr on Apr 7, 2014 17:24:23 GMT
Ok i have read maudes twitter now, ridiculous! Good luck to him if he thinks he can find a more anti-fernandes site than this though!
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 7, 2014 17:45:40 GMT
Ok i have read maudes twitter now, ridiculous! Good luck to him if he thinks he can find a more anti-fernandes site than this though! Speaking just for myself: "Not Anti-Fernandes" ..."Questioning Ownership" - Any ownership! And Pro-QPR
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Post by blatantfowl on Apr 7, 2014 18:12:28 GMT
I apologise for anything I have said, haven't said and might or might not say in the future including but not limited to utterances, jibes, criticisms, insults, poems, thoughts, speeches, musings and rants.
I also offer unreserved apologies to all persons living, dead or fictional for any offence that may or may not be caused by my very existence or my failure to exist at times my existence might or might not have been required.
In lieu of all possible misdemeanours and offences caused or not caused I make an unconditional offer to flay myself with a birch until such offences have ceased or until such time that that I have exited the this plain of existence due to the natural expiry of my current form.
Both before and after such a time I also offer full and unreserved apologies for all the aforementioned possible occurrences across any known or unknown dimensions other than that our limited sense lead us to believe we exist in.
I think that covers it, I thank you.
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