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Post by nomar on Jun 2, 2013 21:25:05 GMT
If I had seen the tweet would have course posted it... Look someone - or a number of people are to blame including Fernandes and Redknapp and Briatore... And Hughes... And I don'tt understand what went wrong or who was responsible. Wasn't the fans. I do hope that when not tweeting and doing interviews that Fernandes are themselves aware of what went wrong so can fix things (Also admire players who praise ex boss...when they gain nothing by doing so...Notbthe norm!) My point, really, is that while Hughes has a lot of culpability in this it is not all his fault. Large slices of the blame pie go to lots of people not just Hughes. Frankly, I really don't care what happens to Stoke but I hope for Hughes' sake he does well for them. I think Hughes genuinely did want to make things work here but in the future the facts may well come out as McIntyre says, that Hughes was given a mandate to go and sign exactly the kind of players everyone is now slating him for signing for QPR. Hughes has moved on now. We have to as well.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 3, 2013 0:14:20 GMT
It certainly wasn't the fans mac, And is why so many are looking for a scape goat. I just cant believe so many players with reasonable histories could play so bad or have such a suck attitude all at the same time. That's what got us relegated but i cannot figure out why. Bosingwa might have an excuse that fans were on his back but none of the others have that excuse. Not even the headless chicken. Everyone knows he put 110% into running around in circles without actually achieving anything, but he did try.
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Post by sharky on Jun 3, 2013 8:51:53 GMT
From Matt Stanger on football365.com
Why Hughes Is The Right Appointment For Stoke
Stoke's 'change of direction' may seem underwhelming, but Mark Hughes' previous record suggests he could be the perfect manager to instigate incremental change...
Last Updated: 30/05/13 at 13:31 Post Comment Somewhere deep in the belly of the Britannia Stadium, Mark Hughes and Peter Coates are standing over a table. An inky 'Leslie' is drying on a freshly signed contract, the Stoke chairman's hand outstretched. But Hughes isn't sure of his next move. Should he accept Coates' palm or storm off? What if Coates shakes his hand but doesn't look him directly in the eye? A simple action to many, but it poses so many worries for Hughes.
The manager's catalogue of handshake faux pas goes a long way to explain why he is almost universally disliked. Hughes might describe himself as a man of principle, perhaps even a thinking man's manager, but petty squabbles over such a routine gesture rather contradict his and Kia Joorabchian's hard work to shape a favourable reputation.
"We're just two Welshman with a bit of competition in us," said Tony Pulis after rejecting Hughes' hand following a match against Fulham in 2010, blaming Hughes for previously shunning his. It would seem the similarities run deep between Pulis and his successor and the biggest concern for Stoke supporters is that Hughes doesn't offer the overdue 'change of direction' cited for Pulis' departure.
But the lines between Hughes as a man and Hughes as a manager have been blurred. It's almost an accepted truth that Hughes is a failure as a coach, with short memories focused on his disappointing tenure at QPR and hubristic decision to quit Fulham after just a single season in charge. "As a young, ambitious manager I wish to move on to further my experiences," said Hughes after guiding the Cottagers to eighth - their second-highest finish in the Premier League. Combined with the 'further experience' at Loftus Road and his previous dismissal for underachieving at Manchester City, there are plenty of reasons to suggest Hughes' high opinion of himself is somewhat undeserved.
Coates has referred to Hughes' spell at QPR as a 'blip', preferring instead to focus on the manager's first foray into club management with Blackburn. "We looked at Blackburn in particular because they are similar," said the chairman when explaining his reasons for appointing Hughes. "We believe he'll come into the same environment."
Despite some opposition to Hughes' arrival, the chairman's decision is well-founded. When the Welshman replaced Graeme Souness at Blackburn in September 2004, the team were performing poorly in the league, were renowned for the type of negative football that has become Stoke's trademark, and didn't have the funds to instigate significant change. At that stage, Blackburn were a well-run, stable club, but in terms of improving the team's fortunes on the pitch Hughes did not have an easy task.
The manager's first season in charge was simply about survival and little changed as Rovers scrapped to 15th in the Premier League and an FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal. It wasn't a pretty start to Hughes' reign but results and performances gradually began to improve and he was also praised for his shrewd transfer dealings, an aspect of management in which Pulis has been widely criticised.
Ryan Nelsen was snapped up on a free from MLS, before Craig Bellamy arrived in the summer of 2005 for £6million. The acquisition of Bellamy proved crucial in Hughes' plans as he led Blackburn to sixth in 2005/06 - only four points from fourth - and a League Cup semi-final against eventual winners Manchester United.
Blackburn's lack of financial clout was highlighted by Bellamy's exit to Liverpool, but Hughes continued to impress by signing Chris Samba (sold for an £11.5m profit), David Bentley (sold for a £14m profit) and Benni McCarthy, who scored 24 goals as Rovers finished 10th, reached another FA Cup semi-final and the last 32 in the UEFA Cup in 2006/07. The next season it was Roque Santa Cruz's turn to lead the line for a Blackburn side now settled in the top ten and a seventh-place finish earned Hughes his big chance at City.
It seems Hughes will have to win over a sizeable portion of Stoke fans, but they should feel reassured by the manager's enormously successful spell at Blackburn from a similar starting point. Rovers over-achieved during his three full seasons in charge and competitive league form, exciting cup runs, memorable performances against the big clubs - including home and away victories over Man United in 2005/06 - and free-scoring strikers are all achievements that suggest Hughes can also succeed at Stoke.
There may be cause to dislike Hughes for his perceived arrogance, but in his unveiling at Stoke he accepted that he made mistakes at QPR. Coates has clearly put a great deal of thought into this appointment, which is concerned with incremental change to end the stagnation that had begin to creep in under Pulis. Had Stoke opted for a completely new approach under Roberto Martinez, the contrast in philosophy could have proven too great, perhaps risking Premier League survival. Hughes is a sensible appointment and he will be motivated to make the most of what many see as his last chance.
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Post by Macmoish on May 31, 2014 9:04:00 GMT
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