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Post by londonranger on Mar 3, 2013 0:06:23 GMT
Well i think yes, if no i njuries obviously. Two strikers so mandatory imo. Glad Greens back, and he can kick ball out of trouble. Also the Ides of March bad for Cesar Noticed Green even pushed the defence to move up, which we really have to do imo. If Tarbs pouts, his problem. Oh maybe Granero should come off. He didnt do much, and didnt come off niceley and when Harry gave him a nice pat, he refused to acknowledge it.
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Post by corndog on Mar 3, 2013 6:24:16 GMT
I don't see why they wouldn't start the same team, they won. I completely agree with the two strikers, I said this before this game that they need two strikers starting every game. Hoilett did great, Green came in and played excellent, while Cesar has fallen out of form lately. The defense held up very well, so they should all be starting. Granero probably did have the worst game of the group, but I rather replace him with Townsend than Taarabt. M'bia also scares me with all of his fouls, I was just waiting to see the red card pulled out throughout the second half. Nonetheless, I could still understand starting the exact same group of players at home against Sunderland.
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Post by Sabas on Mar 3, 2013 7:35:25 GMT
I don't think Granero should play for us, ever. Hate to admit it, but I'd rather go with Jenas. But of course it's Taarabt who should play, every game, regardless of his form or team formation.
I guess we could look at this through a whatever works angle, but I'm not convinced. We were very lucky to get that win. The only reason to leave the same line-up is superstition. But hey, maybe that's the only plan we can count on...
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Post by nomar on Mar 3, 2013 7:43:54 GMT
Taarabt for Granero I would say.
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Post by Markqpr on Mar 3, 2013 7:52:05 GMT
Taarabt for Granero I would say. Yep, that's the one change I would make for home games, though Redknap's comments about playing as a team might keep Taarabt out and Mackie in if Granero is dropped.
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Post by Sabas on Mar 3, 2013 8:20:00 GMT
Taarabt for Granero I would say. Yep, that's the one change I would make for home games, though Redknap's comments about playing as a team might keep Taarabt out and Mackie in if Granero is dropped. Playing as a team is not a virtue in itself if you fail to create chances. If you win - you're right; lose or draw - and it'll look a very wrong decision to leave out your main creative player. I believe it's wrong to overlook the potential of Taarabt/Remy partnership. It's not a one or two man game, but if those two create more than 6 players - I'll take those two. It's not like Taarabt chooses to be 'selfish'; whenever he gives the ball to his fellow midfielders, they just don't know what to do with it, especially Granero, and are eager to get rid of it.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Mar 3, 2013 8:25:02 GMT
Despite our win the fact is the midfield just didn't work at all. Granero should be dropped for Jenas IMO. Maybe Taarabt back in as he is a 'home' player but not sure who would come out the team for him.
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Post by alfaranger on Mar 3, 2013 10:34:09 GMT
Despite our win the fact is the midfield just didn't work at all. Granero should be dropped for Jenas IMO. Maybe Taarabt back in as he is a 'home' player but not sure who would come out the team for him. When we bought Granero though he was lauded as being a good player wasn't he. I had never seen him play but I understood he was well thought of. What's happened, not just to him but to other players that were good at other clubs but can't seem to reproduce that form for us. As Rory implies, Granero just doesn't seem to be making any impact all.
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Post by superckat on Mar 3, 2013 12:12:24 GMT
Despite our win the fact is the midfield just didn't work at all. Granero should be dropped for Jenas IMO. Maybe Taarabt back in as he is a 'home' player but not sure who would come out the team for him. When we bought Granero though he was lauded as being a good player wasn't he. I had never seen him play but I understood he was well thought of. What's happened, not just to him but to other players that were good at other clubs but can't seem to reproduce that form for us. As Rory implies, Granero just doesn't seem to be making any impact all. There is something in what you say Alfa. Players often arrive here with a a good reputation and often start well and then look shit. If you looked individually at all the players we signed since we got back to the Premier and the players we came up with. We should have a top 10 squad. Yet I've often seen posts describing us as the poorest squad some have seen. I don't know why. Perhaps the clubs cursed or something.
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 3, 2013 12:48:27 GMT
I'd keep Adel off if it means we can win a game and at this stage there's no room for people playing for themselves and making stupid mistakes.
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Post by obk on Mar 3, 2013 12:55:57 GMT
Despite our win the fact is the midfield just didn't work at all. Granero should be dropped for Jenas IMO. Maybe Taarabt back in as he is a 'home' player but not sure who would come out the team for him. When we bought Granero though he was lauded as being a good player wasn't he. I had never seen him play but I understood he was well thought of. What's happened, not just to him but to other players that were good at other clubs but can't seem to reproduce that form for us. As Rory implies, Granero just doesn't seem to be making any impact all. Some of those players were more of reserves or specialist players in their former clubs. Easy example would be Park who was used more like a specialist player in matches where his style would make an impact. Also, some of the players are used to have even better players around them again Park and also Granero are examples, those former team mates created more space around them and also made better runs making it easier to pass them. And of course some others were simply not the first choice at their former clubs, yes the played at good clubs but didn't play that often or they are just getting old. Granero for instance was never first choice at Real, but of course still a good player, just like Parejo was. In those and some other cases it could also be the different culture and tactics used in english football. Those are risks you take when you buy the kind of players we have been buying and why I prefer us to buy promising players from lower leagues who have proven themselves there, mixed perhaps with a couple of more experienced players. A strategy that could work as for Norwich but even if not working wouldn't involve such a huge financial risk if going down.
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Post by scarletpimple on Mar 3, 2013 16:12:06 GMT
I think Tarbs has suffered since that penalty miss and needs a confidence boost. Jay looks a different player to last season and Hoilett seems to be finding form and fitness...not sure about jenas though don't really seem to do much apart from short square passes all the time, like to see Townsend in the team has done nothing wrong and better than mackie. The thoughts of the scarlet pimple..... ;D
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Post by londonranger on Mar 3, 2013 16:21:27 GMT
Park though, to his credit, made a wonderful pass to set up winning goal.
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Post by qprtobefrank on Mar 6, 2013 10:46:43 GMT
My team for the run in would be
Cesar or Green
Bosingwa Samba Hill Traore
Townsend Diakite Mbia Hoilett
Remy Taarabt
Yes play 2 up front but Adel can play in and around Remy
Stress to the African lads they must slightly curb their over enthusistic natures and stay on the pitch ! Playing them together in a defensive pairing in midfield should give not only Townsend and Hoillet lots of opportunities to join in with the front 2 but also get our full backs marauding forward. We need Wins, we need Goals !
The likes of Onouha, Fabio, Park, Jenas, Derry, Granero, SWP, Mackie, Bothroyd & Zamora can also have important parts to play.
I think we can afford to lose twice up at Merseyside BUT must get something from the other 8 games including at least 5 wins (preferably against our fellow strugglers).
The Great Escape Part 2 can really kick off against one North East club on Saturday and then could be successfully completed on the penultimate weekend in our last Home game against Newcastle !
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Post by sharky on Mar 6, 2013 11:42:05 GMT
'arry always pulls a surprise or two, and rarely keeps the same side week to week. I think that keeps the team on their toes. Whether he should is a different question. I would say horses for courses, so 'arry should tailor his team to the size of the field and the likely opposition lineup. If that means the same lineup so be it. If not, then change the team!!
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Post by harbo on Mar 7, 2013 7:54:37 GMT
I honestly don't think Adel should start again this season. 2 great games a year isn't enough for me we need people getting into the box and fighting bring on Tarbs when we are 2-0 up.
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Post by mm2h on Mar 7, 2013 8:18:13 GMT
I am with Harbo on this
For every flash of brilliance there are 20 instances of selfishness/giving the ball away/not tracking back.
He is just too expensive to play, especially in our predicament.
If we were mid table we could afford his ways but not rooted to the bottom.
Keep him on the bench though and if needs be bring him on mid 2nd half.
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Post by superckat on Mar 7, 2013 13:24:08 GMT
I didn't like the line up against Southampton. SoI would change a few even though we won. I would drop Boswinga, Park and Granero, for Fabio or Onouha, Townsend and Taarabt. If Zamora can play half a game. I would start him instead of Bothroyd. I know Tarrabt gets a lot of stick. I would play him in the middle, not up front. He can pick a decent pass and play passes through the middle. Our passing, especially from midfield is atrocious and part of the reason we don't get chances is because we very rarely have anyone in midfield who can pick out a run from a forward.
I made an arse of myself on this board when they announced the team on Saturday. I've probably just done the same again.
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