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Post by cpr on Oct 6, 2012 8:01:25 GMT
The FA got it spot on The Football Association have set a dangerous precedent with their verdict in the case of John Terry’s rant against Anton Ferdinand. They have applied common sense. The report into the race-row ban said: ‘At no point is his (Terry’s) demeanour and facial expression that of someone who is imploring, injured, or even quizzical in the face of an unfounded allegation. ‘On the balance of probabilities, there is no credible basis for Mr Terry’s defence that his use of the words ‘f****** black c***’ were directed at Ferdinand by way of forceful rejection and/or inquiry.’ Hear hear. I said something similar myself last October: ‘You can make your own mind up whether that sounds like a plausible alibi, especially when you see Terry spit the words out in anger, not bemusement.’ As for Ashley Cole, I was mystified during the court case how he could be allowed to ‘provide a “character reference”, without the entire courtroom dissolving into fits of laughter’. His character duly shone through on Friday, when he called the FA ‘a bunch of t***s’ on Twitter. Classy, eh? He deleted it, of course. Maybe he will go back and alter that remark later, much like his evidence. Des Kelly - Daily Mail Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2213630/Des-Kelly-Roy-Hodgson-mustnt-tubes.html#ixzz28VJBO6Q7 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Not a jot, comment or column today from the fat bearded west ham blogger, funny that!
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Post by eusebio13 on Oct 6, 2012 9:31:11 GMT
Could be a deliberate deflection ploy! No,it's not you. It's clearly worked. Four time on BBC Breakfast sports news, Cole's tweet and subsequent deletion followed by an apology but nothing on the actual FA report whatsoever. Is Mike Bushell a Chels*** fan I wonder? Could be as he's shyte at any sport he tries! A story about Cashley being an oaf and moron (non story) obscures the real story...Terry did racially abuse Anton, then Terry and Chelsea lied to cover it up. I wonder if there are ANY Chelsea fans now willing to say he did wrong or even just say that the taunting of Ferdinand by Chelsea fans on twitter was? I haven't found any yet and their fora are full of anti Chelsea conspiracy theories and how Cole/Terry/Chelsea should sue the FA....I despair.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 6, 2012 17:02:01 GMT
Cole to be punished by Chelsea but not Terry? Goal.com BREAKING NEWS: Ashley Cole to face Chelsea punishment for FA Tweet, reveals Di Matteo Blues boss confirms England international will face disciplinary action following his foul-mouth comment made against English football's governing body on Friday 6 Oct 2012 17:31:00 By Simon Sinclair Roberto Di Matteo has confirmed Chelsea will take disciplinary action against Ashley Cole for his foul-mouthed Twitter rant at the Football Association on Friday. The 31-year-old reacted angrily to the release of the report into the John Terry racism scandal and launched a vulgar tirade of abuse towards English football's governing body also implying they called him a liar following his evidence in the case. Cole wrote on his Twitter account: "Hahahahaa, well done #fa I lied did I, #BUNCHOFT****." He later deleted the comment. Di Matteo has revealed following the Blues' 4-1 win over Norwich that the left-back will face punishment for his outspoken comments and revealed he has no issue with players using social media despite Cole's actions. He told reporters: "We have a social media policy and there will be disciplinary action against Ashley Cole for his tweet yesterday. "I'm not against social media. It's the world we live in. When it's used sensibly it's not a problem.” Cole later apologised for his rant against the FA citing he was upset at the time and reacted without thinking due to his anger at the incident. He said: "I was really upset and tweeted my feelings in the heat of the moment. I apologise unreservedly for my comment about the FA." Despite his tirade Cole was assured of his place in the England squad for this month's World Cup qualifiers against San Marino and Poland after having talks with boss Roy Hodgson. www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/10/06/3430360/breaking-news-ashley-cole-to-face-chelsea-punishment-for-fa
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 7, 2012 6:23:20 GMT
The possible punishment for Cole for that tweet...and then compare to the penalty Terry received - for everything. And what Chelsea did ... GUARDIAN Ashley Cole faces action from Chelsea and FA over rogue tweet • Full-back could face £200,000 fine of two weeks wages • 'There's going to be a disciplinary process,' say Chelsea Paul Doyle The Observer, Saturday 6 October 2012 13.53 EDT Ashley Cole could face a double punishment for his splenetic reaction to the FA disciplinary panel's suggestion that he gave unreliable evidence in the John Terry racism case. Chelsea are launching an internal disciplinary procedure against the left-back. "We've got a social media policy at the club and there's going to be a disciplinary process – action – against the tweet," said the manager, Roberto Di Matteo, who added: "I'm not against social media but it has to be used with responsibility." Chelsea refused to confirm the nature of any punishment but it could be a two-week fine, which would cost Cole in the region of £200,000. Di Matteo revealed he had discussed the matter with the 31-year-old, adding: "You would understand that's a private conservation." The FA refused to comment on whether they would take action against Cole but their own guidelines are clear. A breach includes: "Comments which are improper, which bring the game into disrepute, which are threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/06/ashley-cole-chelsea-terry
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 7, 2012 6:24:21 GMT
OBSERVER John Terry and Ashley Cole have shamed Chelsea and England Most major private or public institutions would sack a leading figure who was found guilty of saying what John Terry said The Observer The Observer, Saturday 6 October 2012 18.00 EDT We defy anyone to watch John Terry on YouTube very clearly mouthing the words "You F***ing black c**t … F***ing knobhead" at Anton Ferdinand and not agree with the independent commission set up by the FA to investigate the October 2011 incident. They concluded that Terry's defence (that he was repeating words which Ferdinand had alleged he had used) was "improbable, implausible and contrived". They said there was "no credible evidence" for Terry's defence. "We are quite satisfied that the offending words were said by way of insult," the commission concluded. The independent commission alleges that John Terry's defence – which he advanced in court – was untrue. He was acquitted in a criminal trial at Westminster magistrates court in July, although the chief magistrate, Howard Riddle, had said Terry's defence was "unlikely" even if their were insufficient grounds for a conviction. How will Chelsea FC react? How would most major private or public institutions react if one of their leading figures – say, the chief executive – was found guilty by an independent commission of saying, in public to a competitor, "You F***ing black c**t … F***ing knobhead"? They would sack them. If Chelsea – who have said they will wait to see if Terry appeals before making clear their intentions and on Saturday confirmed there will be a "disciplinary process" with Ashley Cole – choose not to do that, what reasons will they – and their owner, Roman Abramovich – give for not taking this course of action? Are they happy their captain has been found guilty of lying? Are they happy that he uses the phrase "You F***ing black c**t … F***ing knobhead" in public? Are they happy for this man to be their captain? To be their leader? Really? Are Chelsea fans happy to have their team led by a man who uses a racist insult? Will Chelsea fans – and with social media there are many opportunities for them to find their voice, how about #sackjohnterrynow? – signal their disapproval of their "leader"? Because if they don't, then how can they take a credible stand on racism in public life ever again? They can't. There is no reason for being equivocal about racism. And what of Chelsea's commercial partners and sponsors such as Samsung? Are they happy that their brand is represented by a team leader who says to an opponent "You F***ing black c**t"? They shouldn't be and they should use their considerable influence to demand that he plays no further part in any association with their brand. Chelsea have other questions to answer. And answer them they must if the shame that this incident has heaped on British football is to be erased. The independent commission detailed how Ashley Cole's evidence "evolved" over time in order to further support Terry's defence. The FA are accusing Cole – Terry's principal supporting witness – of lying. In his first statement to the FA Cole made no mention of having heard Ferdinand use the word "black". In a revised statement he asked for the word be inserted into his statement to strengthen Terry's defence. The commission concluded: "Mr Cole did not hear, and could not have believed, understood or misunderstood Mr Ferdinand to have used the word 'black'." It was the Chelsea club secretary, David Bernard, who facilitated Ashley Cole's change of evidence. The commission concluded that there were "very real concerns" over Bernard's evidence and said it was "materially defective". This is a damning indictment of their club secretary. How will Chelsea react? What would other major public or private companies do? What will Chelsea's considered response to the FA report be once they have had time to digest how comprehensively it has eviscerated their captain, their club secretary and their left-back? We've already had Ashley Cole's response when he tweeted "Hahahahaa, well done, #fa. I lied did I, #BUNCHOFtwatS". He later "unreservedly" apologised. Of course he did. And is that it, Chelsea? Is it OK for Cole to react in that way to a charge this serious? Chelsea have been shamed by this incident. They have been shamed by John Terry and Ashley Cole. For those of us who love football it is dispiriting, depressing and disgusting to see how football (including the FA who were also criticised by the independent commission) has dealt so ineptly with this Terry affair. And not just this incident. Who can forget Liverpool's lamentable response to the Luis Suárez incident last year? And the FA, even now, seem to have some difficulty learning lessons from this fiasco. In a briefing to journalists from the Sunday media on Thursday – before the publication of the independent commission's report – the England manager, Roy Hodgson, responding to persistent questions, said he might consider giving the captaincy to Ashley Cole for the World Cup game against Poland to coincide with the defender's 100th cap. On Saturday the FA made it clear to those same journalists that they should not refer to that section of the press conference lest it reflect badly on Hodgson or the FA, or that not giving the captaincy would be seen as revenge for the Cole tweet. Perish the thought. The fact that the request from the FA came with an implicit threat that anyone who ignored this advisory might suffer in terms of future cooperation from the FA is both abysmal and shocking. Racism is vile and malevolent and has blighted many people's lives. It continues to do so, although great strides have been taken to reduce its incidence. Only racists and intellectual Neanderthals would need convincing that society has to adopt a zero tolerance approach to incidences of racism, or racist insults. And that includes football. As one writer noted on Saturday: "Most footballers get through the day without uttering a racist remark." In fact, most of us get through the day without uttering a racist remark. Terry and Cole are an embarrassment to football, to Chelsea and to England. The club – and just as importantly, their supporters – need to be seen to understand that clearly. And react accordingly. www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/06/editorial-john-terry-ashley-cole-chelsea-england
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 7, 2012 6:57:10 GMT
TELEGRAPH Ashley Cole to be fined by Chelsea and will miss England World Cup qualifier against San Marino Ashley Cole is set to be omitted from England’s World Cup qualifier at home to San Marino on Friday, sparing him an awkward pre-match handshake with Football Association Chairman David Bernstein and a potentially hostile reception from the Wembley crowd. Ashley Cole to be fined by Chelsea and will miss England World Cup qualifier against San Marino Jason Burt By Jason Burt, Football Correspondent 11:00PM BST 06 Oct 2012 The defender will also be fined two weeks’ wages – £240,000 — by Chelsea for his foul-mouthed attack on the FA in the wake of the publication of the report that found John Terry guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. Cole labelled the FA a “bunch of t----” on his Twitter account and although he later deleted the post and apologised through his solicitors he will face disciplinary proceedings. He can also expect to be charged by the FA, and face a further fine, for misconduct. On Saturday Chelsea manager Roberto Di Matteo took the unusual step of confirming that Cole would be disciplined, highlighting the anger towards him felt by the club. Cole’s behaviour would also appear to have ended any hope that, with his current contract ending next summer, the 31 year-old will be offered a new deal. Following the 4-1 home victory over Norwich, in which both Cole and Terry played, Di Matteo said: “We have got a social media policy in the club and there is going to be disciplinary action over the tweet and that’s how I leave it. "I did speak to Ashley, not only him, but I did speak to him. It’s a private conversation but we did speak about it. You saw his reaction yesterday and he apologised unreservedly.” Cole was effectively branded a liar in the written report by the Independent Regulatory Commission which had already banned Terry for four matches and issued a £220,000 fine to the Chelsea captain. Although England manager Roy Hodgson is not under any pressure from the FA to leave Cole out it is understood he was considering omitting the left back even before the latest furore. Given that Cole, who should win his 99th cap in Poland next week, is unlikely to be included for next month’s friendly in Sweden it means he will have to wait until February — when England play a friendly at home to Brazil — to become only the sixth player to achieve 100 appearances for England. By then Cole may not even still be at Chelsea as he is threatening to sign a precontract agreement elsewhere in January. Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is understood to have grown weary of Cole’s antics. Hodgson has selected two other left-backs in his squad – Leighton Baines and Kieran Gibbs, although the latter could be ruled out of both qualifiers after picking up an injury in Arsenal’s 3-1 win at West Ham last night. Steven Gerrard — who will return as captain against Poland — and Glen Johnson are also suspended for the game against San Marino, and Di Matteo confirmed that Frank Lampard might also have to withdraw after “feeling something behind his knee”. The midfielder will be assessed on Sunday. Cole has spoken to Hodgson and indicated he does want to carry on playing for his country and attempted to draw a distinction between his unhappiness with the FA and being involved with England. Nevertheless his behaviour has appalled the FA and some officials would be relieved if he followed Terry into international retirement. Terry has until Oct 18 to decide whether to appeal the judgment and has been advised by his own legal team and the Professional Footballers Association to accept the punishment. It is believed Terry remains reluctant to apologise. Rio Ferdinand, meanwhile, has been angered by Gary Neville’s comments that his presence in the England squad might be “divisive” if he was not in the team. The 33 year-old has told friends he would happily be a squad member and fight for his place and is upset that Hodgson has not properly discussed the issue with him. Ferdinand was amazed to hear Neville discuss on television his omission from the squad three days before it was formally announced. The Manchester United centre half is also annoyed that Hodgson has not explained his thoughts to him. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9591987/Ashley-Cole-to-be-fined-by-Chelsea-and-will-miss-England-World-Cup-qualifier-against-San-Marino.html
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Post by cpr on Oct 7, 2012 15:57:20 GMT
As you mention in passing mac, absolutely typical of the scum to punish someone for calling the fa twats but do nothing about someone who calls a fellow professional a f***ing black c***.
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Post by sharky on Oct 7, 2012 17:21:59 GMT
As you mention in passing mac, absolutely typical of the scum to punish someone for calling the fa twats but do nothing about someone who calls a fellow professional a f***ing black c***. Never like Chelsc*m. Now hate em. How will they get out of this corner they (and Terry) have painted themselves into?!
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Post by terryb on Oct 7, 2012 18:48:40 GMT
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In their own minds they will get out of it by ignoring the FA report & their own rules of zero tolerence by pretending that the commission came up with the wrong conclusion. We are C*****a & will do what we want & f*** the rest of you!
At least the rest of the world now know that THAT CLUB are as bad as we always knew.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 22:25:14 GMT
John Terry ban: PFA chairman Clarke Carlisle disappointed PFA chairman Clarke Carlisle says John Terry's four-match ban undermines the Football Association's strong stance on tackling racism. Liverpool's Luis Suarez was given an eight-match ban last season for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra. "The Luis Suarez ban sent out a strong message that racism isn't tolerated in the game," Carlisle, 32, said. "Diluting that with this four-match ban almost undermines the initial message." Chelsea defender Terry was given the ban on 27 September after an independent FA regulatory commission found that his words towards QPR defender Ferdinand during a Premier League game in October last year were used as an insult. Terry has until 18 October to appeal against his suspension and £220,000 fine. Carlisle wants a rehabilitation programme to be imposed in addition to any suspension for a racism offence and the York City defender says Terry should contribute to such a campaign if he does not contest his ban. Speaking to BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek programme, Carlisle added: "If part of their integration is actively partaking in the anti-discrimination campaigns, in the seminars that go on, not only will they benefit from the information that's shown in these seminars, but also it shows that they do show some remorse for their actions. "It is also a willingness to contribute to the campaigns moving forward so that other people are aware of the message that's being sent out. "If he doesn't contest this decision and an appeal isn't forthcoming it would do John Terry's image a lot of good if he was seen to be contributing to these sort of campaigns. "It would also further affirm the message that this is something that we stand for in football." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19862684
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 7, 2012 22:49:25 GMT
Such a joke... GUARDIAN Football Association set to charge Ashley Cole over his abusive tweet • Governance department meets urgently to discuss action • Chelsea will also discipline player for breach of rules Email Dominic Fifield The Guardian, Sunday 7 October 2012 18.00 EDT The Football Association is expected to charge Ashley Cole with misconduct in the next 24 hours for branding the governing body a "bunch of twats" on his Twitter account. Cole's comment came after the full findings of an independent regulatory commission report into the John Terry racism affair cast serious doubt on the evidence he had supplied on behalf of the Chelsea captain. The tweet, apparently sent while he underwent treatment after training, was subsequently deleted and a public apology issued through his solicitors. But, regardless, the FA's governance department is due to sit on Monday and will launch an investigation into the matter. While there is no mandatory method of sanction for such an offence, a guilty verdict is likely to incur a fine rather than a ban, as was the case when Rio Ferdinand was fined £45,000 for re-tweeting a message in which a follower had called Cole a "choc ice" after Terry had been acquitted at Westminster magistrates court in July. The left-back should discover whether he is to be charged after he has joined up with Roy Hodgson's England squad to prepare for the World Cup qualifiers against San Marino and Poland. Chelsea have opened their own disciplinary proceedings against Cole after he breached the club's code of conduct on social media. The manager, Roberto Di Matteo, has spoken to the player and, after Saturday's victory over Norwich City, confirmed: "We have got a social media policy in the club and there is going to be disciplinary action over the tweet and that's how I leave it." That should amount to a two-week fine, around £240,000, and it remains to be seen how the matter affects the left-back's negotiations over a new deal. Cole is out of contract next summer, with talks to date having failed to reach agreement over an extension. The full-back currently has 98 caps, though he may have to wait until next year to complete his century with Hodgson, having long been considering his omission from Friday's game against San Marino amid familiar concerns over the state of the full-back's ankle. The second game of the international double-header, against Poland in Warsaw, is the more daunting fixture and a match in which Cole's involvement would be considered more important. Should the 31-year-old sit out the game at Wembley, he would most likely go into 2013 still attempting to become the sixth England player to complete a century of appearances for the national side as Hodgson intends to pick an experimental side for next month's friendly against Sweden in Stockholm. That would leave February's prestigious visit of Brazil the likeliest occasion for Cole to earn his 100th cap, having stressed to Hodgson his desire to continue playing for his country. Everton's Leighton Baines, who played against Moldova and Ukraine last month, should start against San Marino, with Arsenal's Kieran Gibbs likely to withdraw from the 25-man party after sustaining a thigh injury in the victory at West Ham. If Gibbs does pull out Chelsea's Ryan Bertrand may return to the squad. Liverpool's uncapped midfielder Jonjo Shelvey is also expected to link up with the England squad will that meets up at the new national football centre at St George's Park, Burton-upon-Trent, with the fitness of Frank Lampard to be assessed, along with that of the West Ham forward Andy Carroll. Lampard, who was in line to captain the side on Friday in the absence of the suspended Steven Gerrard, has a knee problem, while Hodgson will speak with Sam Allardyce about Carroll, who is lacking in match practice. "Hopefully he'll get a game against San Marino, but I will speak to Roy about Andy's fatigue levels," said Allardyce. "Andy would have been stiffer than everybody else after the Arsenal game on Sunday morning because he hasn't played a full 90 minutes in recent weeks. So he will take a bit more time to recover. But he should be fine for Friday." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/07/ashley-cole-football-association-chelsea
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 7, 2012 23:52:47 GMT
England's Moral Leader, Roy Hodgson England manager Roy Hodgson acclaims 'fantastic' Ashley Cole • Cole nears 100-cap milestone in World Cup qualifiers • Hodgson praises Cole despite problems for FA Share Email Owen Gibson The Observer, Saturday 6 October 2012 17.59 EDT Ashley Cole at an England training session. The full-back is closing in on 100 caps for England. Photograph: Tom Jenkins for the Guardian Roy Hodgson has paid a glowing tribute to "fantastic" Ashley Cole as the player approaches the milestone of 100 caps for his country, despite the fresh problems the left-back has heaped on the England set up on the eve of two crucial World Cup qualifiers. Cole is expected to become the sixth player to reach the century in Warsaw a week on Tuesday, presenting the Football Association officials – whom on Friday he labelled a "bunch of twats" – with a dilemma over how to mark the moment. But after another taxing week that included a storm over an aside made by Hodgson to a punter on the London underground about the international future of Rio Ferdinand, the manager says he could even consider making Cole captain for the occasion. Hodgson was speaking before Cole's outburst and subsequent apology on Friday, but stands by his comments in praise of the Chelsea left-back. It is understood that while Hodgson said he deemed the idea worthy of consideration, Steven Gerrard is expected to lead the team as normal against Poland on his return from suspension. Hodgson and Cole spoke on Friday afternoon and the player will join up with the squad as planned on Monday. The 31-year-old has previously shown little interest in wearing the captain's armband but when it was suggested to him, Hodgson said the idea was "worthy of consideration" to mark the achievement. "It is something that would need an awful lot of consideration and you would need to discuss it with Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard, who have been captaining the team. It is not something you should take lightly. It is certainly worthy of consideration," he said. "What is more worthy of consideration is the fact that Ashley, at a relatively young age and with more football left in him, is likely to get his 100th cap very soon – and that is fantastic. I don't think we should ever underestimate the value of that." Hodgson said he put Cole in the same bracket as the Italian international Paolo Maldini and that he respected Cole's decision not to speak to the media in the wake of the off-field incidents that have sullied perceptions of his stellar career on the pitch. "I for one respect that wholeheartedly and have found him to be an excellent professional and a very, very enthusiastic and important member of the group and I'm looking forward to working with him for a period of time to come," the England manager said. "He has done it with consistency and there is no reason why he cannot set his sights higher. I must say it is an achievement we shouldn't be underestimating and if people are going to praise his achievement it is something I would endorse." Hodgson, who defended Cole's right to do his talking on the pitch, said that was also true on the field of play: "Every player has the right to be true to their own feelings, and his is that he will do his talking on the field, I don't want to give lots of interviews, I want to be judged as a pure footballer." The FA was hoping that the issues around John Terry and Rio Ferdinand would blow over by the time the squad convened on Monday, so the focus of the media could coalesce around the official opening on Tuesday of its new £100m national football centre at St George's Park. But the fallout from Cole's criticism of the "evolution" of his evidence contained in the written reasons for Terry's four-match ban for racially abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand is just the latest example of the shadow the incident continues to cast over the FA despite the Chelsea captain's decision to retire from international football. Hodgson was also forced to again justify his decision to leave Rio Ferdinand out of his latest squad for the games against San Marino at Wembley on Friday and in Poland the following Tuesday despite limited options at centre-half. "There may be a time when I need to go to Rio if he hasn't himself called time on his career – and I have no reason to believe he has. When the day comes that I need to go to him it will be because I want him to go straight into the team for one particular reason," he said. "I haven't made that decision on this occasion so next time I will have to make that decision is in March. Who knows in March what the situation will be, who knows what Rio will say?" Article history Football England · Ashley Cole · Roy Hodgson Sport More news More on this story FA set to charge Cole over tweet Football: The FA meets to discuss action on Ashley Cole while Chelsea will also discipline player Cole and Terry affair sidelined with win over Norwich Sordell makes claim of racist abuse Share Email www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/06/england-roy-hodgson-ashley-cole
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 8, 2012 11:40:59 GMT
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FA charge Ashley Cole regarding his twitter comment. He has until Thursday to respond @bbcfootball
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Post by cpr on Oct 9, 2012 14:38:27 GMT
EXCLUSIVE: Kick It Out chiefs concerned over Terry wearing anti-racism T-shirt on return from abuse banBy Neil Ashton PUBLISHED: 22:58, 8 October 2012 | UPDATED: 07:52, 9 October 2012 Comments (44) Share .. Furore: Terry (right) is to serve a four-game ban John Terry faces fresh controversy after it emerged that the Kick It Out campaign have serious reservations about the Chelsea skipper wearing their T-shirts later this month. Chelsea’s players are due to wear Kick It Out shirts with the message ‘one game one community’ for games against Tottenham on Saturday week and Manchester United eight days later. If Terry appeals against his £220,000 fine and four-game ban for racially insulting Anton Ferdinand, he will be available to play in both matches. Kick It Out chiefs will meet Chelsea officials in the next fortnight to discuss the potential ramifications and will raise their fears about the issue. It has become a delicate area for Kick It Out after their public show of support for the Ferdinand family during the case at Westminster Magistrates’ Court in July, when Terry was cleared of a racially aggravated public order offence. They have aligned themselves with the Ferdinand family throughout the ordeal and welcomed the findings of the FA’s independent regulatory commission, who condemned Terry in a report published last week. The panel held that he had used the words ‘f****** black ****’ as a racial insult against Ferdinand during that infamous game against QPR at Loftus Road last October. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2214748/John-Terry-wanted-wear-Kick-It-Out-t-shirt.html#ixzz28oTGnPVO Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Post by Bushman on Oct 10, 2012 15:34:38 GMT
John Terry should have got Suarez-length ban - Triesman By Dan Roan BBC sports news correspondent Former Football Association chairman Lord Triesman says he cannot understand why John Terry was given a lesser ban than Liverpool's Luis Suarez for racially abusing an opponent. The FA Commission said the Chelsea captain got a lesser ban because the "racist insult was issued only once". But Lord Triesman told the BBC he could not understand the difference. He said: "I couldn't understand why the sanction was different for a Liverpool player and for John Terry." "It may be when you look at all the detail they thought there were reasons for [it]. I can't see it." Terry was banned for four games and fined £220,000 for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. Suarez received an eight-match ban for the same offence against Patrice Evra last year but Suarez was found to have repeatedly used an abusive word when talking to the Manchester United defender. Terry is due to decide whether to appeal against the guilty verdict but Lord Triesman, speaking at the Leaders in Football conference, believes the decision by an FA independent panel to find Terry guilty was the correct one and urged the defender to accept his punishment. "He's within his rights to appeal. My own view is that it would be more sensible to apologise and accept it's not a good standard," he said. "I just don't believe in this day and age that anybody can think that it's OK, and that you don't owe an apology, not least to the other player." Following the controversy over Terry, and over team-mate Ashley Cole's tweet abusing the FA, Triesman said it was time for clubs to include codes of conduct in players' contracts. "What I think is important is for clubs to tell their very highly paid employees what general standards are expected of them on the pitch or in the training ground. "Every club should set those standards and say, 'here's a set of standards we expect you to stick to'." John Terry gets four-match ban The FA is set to introduce a code of conduct for the England squad, and Triesman, who was chairman of the FA from 2008 to 2010, believes clubs should do the same. "Some clubs have done elements of it, but what hasn't happened is saying to people, 'what you've done off the field impacts on our brand', and that should have been said years ago," he said. "Contracts have subsidiary documents of all kinds which get attached all the time, and I don't see any good reason why a general code of conduct in relation to people who are absolutely in the spotlight all the time should not be part of that." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19898122
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Oct 11, 2012 15:25:56 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 11, 2012 19:17:54 GMT
David James... www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2216364/David-James-says-anti-racism-campaigns-football-causing-unnecessary-trouble.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DSportsmail%2BReporterJames starts backlash against anti-racism campaigns in wake of Terry case By Sportsmail Reporter PUBLISHED: 13:51 EST, 11 October 2012 | UPDATED: 13:52 EST, 11 October 2012 Comments (0) Share David James has accused football’s anti-racism campaigners of making too much of the issue, insisting he no longer saw a problem in the game. Former England goalkeeper James, one of the most high-profile black players of the last 20 years, claimed certain groups had 'an agenda to keep themselves in existence'. Racism has been one of the biggest topics in football over the past year, with John Terry and Luis Suarez both banned by the Football Association for abusing opponents. Criticism: David James says too much is being made of certain issues Criticism: David James says too much is being made of certain issues But, speaking at the Leaders in Football conference at Stamford Bridge, James said: 'I think the organisations which have done so good on the terraces are still employed looking for stuff to be shouted about. 'And a lot of the issues that we’ve gone on about in the last season or so, it’s more about people driving the issue than the issue being a real focus.' Asked to elaborate, James added: 'Well, some people get paid for doing certain jobs and certain jobs involve bringing stuff to public notice. 'The JT thing, it could’ve been dealt with quietly and done. He could’ve served a ban if he was going to serve a ban, rather than it being a six or eight-month thing.' Pressed on whether he was criticising anti-racism groups, James said: 'I think that some people have an agenda to keep themselves in existence and, as a player, I don’t see the racism issue - anywhere, personally. 'Maybe people just don’t want to aim it at me - I don’t know. But I don’t see it. 'But you read about stuff that maybe you don’t need to read about all the time.' James also disagreed with those who have suggested there was institutional racism at the top of football because of the lack of black managers in the game. The 42-year-old, who hopes to embark on his own career in management after completing his UEFA Pro-Licence, said: 'I struggle with the racist issue in football because I don’t see it, and that’s not because I’ve got my head in the sand. Fuss: James says the John Terry case has gone on far too long Fuss: James says the John Terry case has gone on far too long 'In the earlier days, yes, but the game’s changed. 'There are some wonderful organisations out there which have helped football become a much more enjoyable game for everyone. 'Stuff in the crowd being aimed at players - that’s gone, or pretty much gone. I don’t hear it any more. Star names: Popular Italian and former referee Pierluigi Collina spoke at the summit Star names: Popular Italian and former referee Pierluigi Collina spoke at the summit 'With regards to the playing side of things, I don’t look at myself as any different from the guy who gets changed next to me, and I’m not going to fly anyone’s flag in order to join some "gang", which doesn’t need to be joined. 'If you want to go on a coaching course to become a manager then give yourself a chance. 'If you don’t want to go, and moan about not getting jobs, well, probably because you haven’t been on the course is the reason why you haven’t got a job.' Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2216364/David-James-says-anti-racism-campaigns-football-causing-unnecessary-trouble.html#ixzz291HhkekS
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 14, 2012 7:24:03 GMT
Let's hope so. Would be justice Mirror - Brand values: Terry has damaged Chelsea's reputation, claims former FA chairman
'If I was a Chelsea fan I wouldn’t be happy that my club was getting this kind of negative coverage' says Lord TriesmanFormer FA chairman Lord Triesman believes Chelsea’s reputation has been damaged following John Terry’s ban for racist abuse. And he has called on the Stamford Bridge outfit and other top clubs to include a code of conduct in all their stars’ contracts. Professional Footballers' Association chairman Clarke Carlisle says FA's suspension compares unfavourably with Luis Suarez ban. Blues chiefs have been accused of being too loyal to Terry, who was handed a four-match suspension and a £220,000 fine by the FA after being found guilty of using a racist slur towards Anton Ferdinand. Triesman said: “Large numbers of people around the world, especially black people, will read about what has happened. And they will wonder how on earth did Chelsea allow that? “The club’s international reputation has suffered. Its brand has been damaged. “They should be saying it isn’t acceptable as a standard of behaviour. “If I was a Chelsea fan I wouldn’t be happy that my club was getting this kind of negative coverage. “If it happened with any other business corporation, like Coca-Cola say, an employee would have been in serious trouble with that organisation.” The Chelsea skipper is due to decide during the international break whether to appeal his guilty verdict. The fall-out from his ban saw Chelsea team-mate Ashley Cole launch a foul-mouthed Twitter tirade at the FA – which led to the defender being charged with misconduct. Role model: Beckham's behaviour has been exemplary Triesman, who was chairman of football’s governing body between 2008 and 2010, wants a code of conduct to be included in contracts at club level. He said: “Footballers are role models. “When I was a referee in the 1970s the kids would copy the actions of their heroes they’d seen on televison the night before. “So it’s not true to say that what stars do on the pitch won’t influence youngsters. I think clubs like Chelsea – and Liverpool during the Luis Suarez saga – have responsibilities to the next generation. Clubs should tell their very highly-paid employees what standards are expected of them.” Triesman contrasted the recent behaviour of Terry and Cole with David Beckham’s exemplary attitude as England captain. “When I was at the FA I had dealings with David (above, top),” said Triesman (below). “I was so impressed with the way he put his celebrity to great cultural use. He knew it really does matter what the England captain does. He knew about the obligations and responsibilities that came with the job. “Another very positive role model is Mo Farah (above). “What a great example he, and so many other Olympians and Paralympians, set during the summer. It was a great six weeks – and it is hard not to contrast some of the football incidents with the Games. “I think Terry should apologise and accept it’s not a good standard. I just don’t believe in this day and age that anybody can think that it’s OK, and that you don’t owe an apology for something like that.” www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/john-terry-has-damaged-chelsea-brand-1377359
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Post by cpr on Oct 14, 2012 19:04:35 GMT
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