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Post by Macmoish on Sept 25, 2012 14:58:08 GMT
I think there are two things: First the Finding "Guilty/Not Guilty" and then the Punishment
If Terry were to be found guilty, and someone wants to argue that there should be mitigation based on this being a one-time incident or that Terry has always LOVED people of all colours. Fine. Do that.
But don't try and say, Terry shouldnt have to face the hearing.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Sept 25, 2012 15:02:17 GMT
Seems to be taking an age.
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Post by bowranger on Sept 25, 2012 15:41:28 GMT
Seems to be taking an age. There's case history and precedent within the FA with Suarez I suppose - I don't see how, mitigation or otherwise they can give him less than what previous cases indicated.
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Post by blatantfowl on Sept 25, 2012 18:23:39 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 7:54:33 GMT
Maybe today?
Terry spent all yesterday at FA. (How long does it take to say he did/didnt)
Have to say, Chelsea have shown immense commitment/loyalty to their player - with their Chairman spending all day at the Hearing.
(Can hate Terry and the club, but just noting the degree of commitment they've given him)
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 8:03:12 GMT
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 8:52:02 GMT
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 8:56:04 GMT
From the BBC Verdict in John Terry FA hearing expected on ThursdayJohn Terry will return to Wembley on Thursday for the fourth day of his disciplinary hearing, with a verdict expected by the end of the day. The Chelsea captain is accused of using racist language towards QPR defender Anton Ferdinand last October Terry was again accompanied by Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck at the Football Association hearing on Wednesday. Former England boss Fabio Capello had offered to appear on the 31-year-old's behalf and provided a statement. Capello and former England general manager Franco Baldini were contacted by Terry's lawyers ahead of the FA's independent regulatory commission. Their statements are understood by BBC Sport to determine whether it is usual for a player found not guilty in a criminal trial to then have to answer an FA charge relating to the same incident. Reports suggest Terry's lawyers want the FA charge against the former England captain dismissed because he was found not guilty of a racially aggravated public order offence at Westminster Magistrates' Court in July. Two weeks after being cleared, the FA charged Terry with using "abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour" towards Ferdinand during October's Premier League game at Loftus Road. Capello resigned as England manager after Terry was removed as captain without his agreement. Centre-back Terry, 31, played in Chelsea's League Cup win over Wolves on Tuesday despite missing training to attend the hearing at Wembley Stadium on both Monday and Tuesday. Following the game Chelsea assistant boss Eddie Newton said the Blues' captain was in a positive frame of mind. "He's been fine, dealing with the situation at hand," Newton said after the 6-0 victory. "He's coming in and doing what he has to do at the club. He's been very positive and upbeat." Just hours before the hearing was due to begin, Terry announced his retirement from international duty - claiming the FA hearing had made his position with the national team "untenable". www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19723020
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 11:05:03 GMT
scumbag has just left Wembley.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 11:13:07 GMT
scumbag has just left Wembley. I think Terry may be aware of the outcome already Will we get to hear today though
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 11:15:10 GMT
scumbag has just left Wembley. I think Terry may be aware of the outcome already Will we get to hear today though Apparently, if he is appealing we won't know the outcome, I find that strange! Given the charge, I cannot see how he cannot be found guilty.
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 11:43:39 GMT
scumbag has just left Wembley. ......and his team of sharks (sorry lawyers) have left too!!!
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 12:44:19 GMT
"Treated Unfairly"! www.isportstimes.com/articles/3517/20120927/terry-fa-treated-unfairly.htmTerry Says FA Treated Him Unfairly By Anam Arsalam - Posted: 09/27/12 08:14AM EDT inShare John Terry John Terry comes off for Chelsea against Benfica. (Photo: Reuters) The hearing at the Wembley Stadium has come to an end and soon it will be known what the Football Association's four-man independent panel has in store for Former England captain John Terry, who used the words "f...... black c....." against Queens Park Rangers defender Anton Ferdinand. The 31-year-old Chelsea skipper, who made himself available for the League Cup game against lowly Wolverhampton Wanderers at the Stamford Bridge Tuesday, will return to Wembley Thursday to discover whether he would face a ban for racially abusing Ferdinand. Like Us on Facebook : Terry has been facing the FA commission that is looking into the defender's use of the racially abusive language against Ferdinand in October last year. He was acquitted by the Westminster Magistrates' Court in July on account of team-mate Ashley Cole's testimony. Meanwhile, Terry's defence team claims that he has been unfairly treated. They say he has been more harshly treated than Steven Gerrard, Andy Carroll and Wayne Rooney when they too were involved in such issues. After being grilled for close to eight hours Wednesday, Terry left shortly before 4:30 pm. He was told that the verdict would be out Thursday. Terry, who has already retired from international football, may get a four-match ban if he is found guilty. Call it strange but according to FA regulations on such matters, the first time offenders are given stricter punishments, often the penalty or match-ban is doubled. Maybe, that has been done to ensure there is no repeat. Recently, Liverpool's Uruguayan international Luis Suárez was banned for eight matches by the FA. Suarez and Manchester United's French international Patrice Evra were involved in a verbal battle in October last season that drove Suarez to use racially abusive language against Evra.
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 14:00:39 GMT
Dan Roan on BBC, "Terry verdict imminent"
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 14:03:25 GMT
Apologies if in thread
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Post by bowranger on Sept 27, 2012 14:06:00 GMT
Not up on the beeb just yet...
If that's true, interested to see how they reached that punishment, considering what Suarez got...
Edit: breaking on the beeb now. 220k fine.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 14:07:22 GMT
Guilty is guilty. The punishment is pathetic. But the bottom line is the Verdict.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Sept 27, 2012 14:08:24 GMT
Not up on the beeb just yet... If that's true, interested to see how they reached that punishment, considering what Suarez got... Sounds like a stitch up to me.
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 14:08:50 GMT
Finally, finally. After all the stick that Anton has taken finally some justice. That no good Sc*m Terry has been found guilty and banned and fined. As the fans say:
JOHN TERRY WE KNOW WHAT YOU SAID
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 14:10:31 GMT
On BBC now £220,000 fine
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 14:11:53 GMT
4 match ban + £220,000 fine
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 14:17:33 GMT
BBC
John Terry banned and fined by FA over Anton Ferdinand incident
Chelsea captain John Terry has been banned for four matches and fined £220,000 following an incident involving QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.
The Football Association have found centre-back Terry, 31, guilty of a charge of misconduct.
In July, Terry was cleared in court of racially abusing Ferdinand.
Just hours before the hearing began, Terry, 31, retired from international duty, claiming the FA hearing had made his position with England "untenable".
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Post by haqpr1963 on Sept 27, 2012 14:23:03 GMT
1518: FOOTBALL
John Terry's representatives have released the following statement.
"Mr. Terry is disappointed that the FA Regulatory Commission has reached a different conclusion to the clear not guilty verdict of a court of law.
"He has asked for the detailed written reasons of the decision and will consider them carefully before deciding whether to lodge an appeal."
1514: FOOTBALL
John Terry's four-match ban and £220,000 fine is pending his right to appeal.
He will be able to play until he either accepts the guilty verdict, completes an appeal process or the 14-day deadline for an appeal expires.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 14:23:34 GMT
FA Statement The FA Terry hearing result Thursday, 27 September, 2012 Independent Regulatory Commission reach conclusion in Terry case. An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Thursday 27 September 2012] found a charge of misconduct against John Terry proven and has issued a suspension for a period of four matches and a fine of £220,000, pending appeal. The Football Association charged Mr Terry on Friday 27 July 2012 with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011. The charge was the result of The FA’s long-standing investigation into this matter, which was placed on hold at the request of the Crown Prosecution Service and Mr Terry’s representatives pending the outcome of the criminal trial. A hearing took place from 24-27 September 2012 before an Independent Regulatory Commission of The FA to consider the charge. The decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission is as follows: •Mr Terry be suspended from all domestic club football until such time as Chelsea’s First Team have completed four competitive matches •Fined the sum of £220,000 The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course. Mr Terry has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days from receipt of the written reasons for the decision. The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Terry decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Terry has an effective right of appeal.www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2012/john-terry-hearing-result-september.aspx
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 14:30:28 GMT
Bet he appeals coz he's a no good slag!!!!
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 14:49:01 GMT
Can someone merge this with original please?
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 27, 2012 14:50:35 GMT
Watch what happens!
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 14:53:35 GMT
Good work, well done, if I tried all this would be gone! ;D
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Post by sharky on Sept 27, 2012 14:53:55 GMT
Can the punishment be increased on appeal, as it seems to be lenient to me?
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Post by cpr on Sept 27, 2012 14:56:45 GMT
Additional game for a frivolous appeal? Why not!!!!
Suarez was 4 plus 4 for the repeated comment.
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