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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 16, 2012 11:23:19 GMT
Exactly Terry.
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Post by cpr on Sept 16, 2012 13:08:28 GMT
Indeedy doody, dreamt up by marketeers whilst running a cat up the flagpole.
Not heard anyone in football agree with or supporting it.
Prior to four years ago there was no respect then, is that right?
Wonder what Moore and Pele would make of it.
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Post by Bushman on Sept 17, 2012 16:47:05 GMT
Gordon Taylor says handshakes argument is like a 'mafia feud' Anton Ferdinand's refusal to shake John Terry's hand resembles a "mafia feud", says Professional Footballers' Association chairman Gordon Taylor. The controversy dominated the pre-match build-up, and mirrored similar incidents with Terry and Wayne Bridge, and Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra. Taylor told BBC Radio 5 live: "We have to move on. These things will separate us and become like some mafia feud." The 67-year-old also insisted pre-match handshakes should remain. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19626921
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 16:53:12 GMT
Gordon Taylor says handshakes argument is like a 'mafia feud' Anton Ferdinand's refusal to shake John Terry's hand resembles a "mafia feud", says Professional Footballers' Association chairman Gordon Taylor. The controversy dominated the pre-match build-up, and mirrored similar incidents with Terry and Wayne Bridge, and Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra. Taylor told BBC Radio 5 live: "We have to move on. These things will separate us and become like some mafia feud." The 67-year-old also insisted pre-match handshakes should remain. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19626921what a load of bo11ocks
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Post by cpr on Sept 17, 2012 17:25:41 GMT
Gordon Taylor says handshakes argument is like a 'mafia feud' Anton Ferdinand's refusal to shake John Terry's hand resembles a "mafia feud", says Professional Footballers' Association chairman Gordon Taylor. The controversy dominated the pre-match build-up, and mirrored similar incidents with Terry and Wayne Bridge, and Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra. Taylor told BBC Radio 5 live: "We have to move on. These things will separate us and become like some mafia feud." The 67-year-old also insisted pre-match handshakes should remain. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19626921what a load of bo11ocks White man speak with fork tongue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 17:33:30 GMT
White man speak with fork tongue. None of his business what one player decides to do about a Handshake & he has no power over this really!!! Which is what its all about!! He wouldn't dare confront anton about on an official line as the court case proved that Terry did make a racist comment & his slime bag lawyer got him off on a technical issue!! Just his wonderful FA enquiry will let Terry off because they have no bottle against the big clubs famous players!!!
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Post by cpr on Sept 17, 2012 18:22:59 GMT
White man speak with fork tongue. None of his business what one player decides to do about a Handshake & he has no power over this really!!! Which is what its all about!! He wouldn't dare confront anton about on an official line as the court case proved that Terry did make a racist comment & his slime bag lawyer got him off on a technical issue!! Just his wonderful FA enquiry will let Terry off because they have no bottle against the big clubs famous players!!! I'll wager Clark Carlisle doesn't share that old fart's view!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 18:25:06 GMT
None of his business what one player decides to do about a Handshake & he has no power over this really!!! Which is what its all about!! He wouldn't dare confront anton about on an official line as the court case proved that Terry did make a racist comment & his slime bag lawyer got him off on a technical issue!! Just his wonderful FA enquiry will let Terry off because they have no bottle against the big clubs famous players!!! I'll wager Clark Carlisle doesn't share that old fart's view! I'm not taking that bet. I doubt Taylor has ever been the victim of racial abuse!!?? I mean you can be of any minority & if he had I bet he would have a different opinon!!!
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Post by bowranger on Sept 18, 2012 9:44:57 GMT
That's sort of my take on it - I've had zero experience of racist abuse, so I'm obviously not going to tell someone who has when to "move on" or whatever. If Anton doesn't want to shake his hand, that is his business and it's embarassing you've got people in the press and in the echelons of the sport telling him what he "should" do.
I can't be 100% on the players' reasoning but I thought Ji Sung Park refusing to shake hands with Terry was a clever compromise. Doesn't attract an even bigger FA shit-storm, takes into account players who feel caught in the middle (for better or worse) like Zamora, but as he's captain it still gives the clear view of solidarity (i.e. as club captain, and captain of this group of players, it's a very clear message to Terry and Chelsea that they don't think his behaviour is ok).
Agree with a lot of people on here on this, the enforced handshake makes a mockery of "Respect". Respect has to be earned. Respect has to be given and accepted in return when it is deserved. Withdrawing respect from someone who clearly doesn't show others respect, isolating their behaviour as unacceptable, seems totally rational. If anything, I'd have thought that was the embodiment of the MEANING of a campaign like that (whereas most FA campaigns are mostly about lip service).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 10:52:19 GMT
Totally agree!! I've never been the victim of racial abuse!! Not because I'm white ethic minority just lucky that I haven't!! Have several friends that have been abused of Indian & black minority & they were very upset when it happened to them. Now I listened to what they told me but can only imagine how they felt!! Can't do anymore than that & certainly like Taylor have no right to poo poo it as he is doing because like most of the FA Higher bodies hasn't got a clue about the football world or the real world!!!...........Taylor if you were in an Eskimo family you would have been put down by now!!! Shame your not really!!!
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Post by manta on Sept 21, 2012 7:05:12 GMT
We all know (and have known for a long time) these pre-match handshakes before two teams go to battle are embarrassing, meaningless, stupid and pointless. Wellington or Blücher never rushed to shake the hands of Napoleon before the Battle of Waterloo. Churchill never flew over to Berlin in 1940 to shake hands with Adolf Hitler before the Battle Of Britain. It's all part of the FA's drive to promote "fairness". Hah!
The FA will never, ever buckle to pressure from managers, footballers, fans or the media (i.e. people who actually know about the game) owning up to a mistake. Heaven forbid. These overpaid coffin-dodgers will never expose how out of touch they are with the morden game, they save that over choices of England managers when it's too F***ing obvious and they can't hide.
But we as QPR fans know their double standards and hypocrisy and this so-called promotion of "fairness in the game" when they exonerate cheating, diving scumbags like Ashley Young and incompatence of the officials they appoint.
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