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Post by harlowranger on Aug 26, 2012 22:07:04 GMT
blah blah blah QPR boss explains Taarabt absence By Jacob Murtagh Aug 26 2012 MARK Hughes revealed he decided to drop Adel Taarabt from the starting XI for Saturday's draw at Norwich for tactical reasons. The Moroccan was left warming the bench as the QPR boss opted to play two up front, with Bobby Zamora partnering Djibril Cisse through the middle. Hughes explained: “I've got options but I just felt it was important to have a focal point and that's what Bobby gives us. “I left Adel out because although he gives us a lot in terms of attacking, it's important when we're away from home that we're compact as well. “It was a little bit hard on Adel, in fairness, but we've got threats and it's important I pick a team that can capitalise on them.” Read More www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-qpr/2012/08/26/82029-31701144/?#ixzz24gzctUu4
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Aug 26, 2012 22:12:09 GMT
He's right to be fair. I don't think Adel would have improved us much yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 22:12:19 GMT
I have a feeling we would of been second best on Saturday whatever formation or team was picked Most of the players just weren't at the races
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 26, 2012 22:34:54 GMT
Although when we had that free kick on the edge of box, and wasted it...Just maybe Taarabt would have done just a LITTLE better1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 23:11:40 GMT
Although when we had that free kick on the edge of box, and wasted it...Just maybe Taarabt would have done just a LITTLE better1 Hoilett tried a passback
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Post by nomar on Aug 27, 2012 0:22:04 GMT
A lot of people felt Taarabt would be sacrificed away and play all the home games. Looks like they could be right.
Personally, I'd play him every week. You can always replace him later on in the game if needs be, but he is by far the most creative player we have. Wasted sitting on the pine.
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Post by auburnqpr on Aug 27, 2012 0:49:28 GMT
If you remember from last year, Taarabt hardly ever played well on the road. Such as Fulham, Spurs etc. He did play well against Arsenal but thats about it.
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Post by sharky on Aug 27, 2012 4:45:46 GMT
Agree AT best at home currently, but keep him on the bench and should we start to get some form away from home bring him on off the bench.
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Post by Sabas on Aug 27, 2012 10:05:28 GMT
Hughes is cautious away. OK, I get that. But to be cautious against Norwich? The absence of Taarabt/anyone who can keep and move the ball meant our intentions were to win/get the result 'accidentally'?
Norwich were much much better, they should have won - so for me that's a tactical failure.
Taarabt must start. The longer he's on the bench the less confident and dangerous he gets.
This team must orbit around a 'Number 10', because out wide we don't have superpowerful wingers and Diakite is inconsistent and not yet a Yaya Toure.
It was really disappointing watching that non-football on Saturday. When very early on you realise that there's just no-one that can do something with the ball.
We got the point, so Hughes's got the point, but...
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Post by cowleyhoop on Aug 27, 2012 15:02:40 GMT
Its always going to be difficult for Adel away from home infact home or away he's a hard player to fit into any system. I think spurs have found the same problem with van der vart at times. Its great when you are playing well but always going to be the easy choice to drop when you are struggling
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Post by Sabas on Aug 27, 2012 18:33:07 GMT
Its always going to be difficult for Adel away from home infact home or away he's a hard player to fit into any system. I think spurs have found the same problem with van der vart at times. Its great when you are playing well but always going to be the easy choice to drop when you are struggling Yes, but Spurs could drop VDV, because they have other creative players. We don't. And we need goals, chances, not to be 'compact' or whatever the euphemism. In two games we struggled to create real chances. The solution - yes, let's the drop the most creative guy.
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Post by fraserinbc on Aug 27, 2012 18:41:42 GMT
Hughes is cautious away. OK, I get that. But to be cautious against Norwich? Why, when was the last time we won there? ;-)
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Post by Sabas on Aug 27, 2012 18:48:40 GMT
Hughes is cautious away. OK, I get that. But to be cautious against Norwich? Why, when was the last time we won there? ;-) If we're cautious against 0-5-Norwich who are we going to be adventurous with?
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Post by cpr on Aug 27, 2012 19:39:28 GMT
Why, when was the last time we won there? ;-) If we're cautious against 0-5-Norwich who are we going to be adventurous with? When have you associated Hughes with adventurous?
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Post by Sabas on Aug 28, 2012 5:39:45 GMT
If we're cautious against 0-5-Norwich who are we going to be adventurous with? When have you associated Hughes with adventurous? Since becoming a manager of a club likely to battle for the relegation. I expect him to be a bit more aggressive in attack. Or else... In Norwich I saw the sort of football that made Fernandes replace Warnock, that same football that even Hughes was playing several games after replacing Warnock. The horrible helpless anti-football. It needs to change.
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Post by grenqpr on Aug 28, 2012 15:38:14 GMT
I dont understand the view that dropping Tarbs makes the team more compact and to what end.
Tarbs creates havoc for defenses when he's in possesion and creates the potential for goal scoring opportunities.
The question that should be addressed is the one everyone appears to state and take for granted....that he doesn't play well away from home!!!
Why not? Are they using a different ball? Is the grass different? Shouldn't the manager not see that and remedy it instead of dropping our most creative player??!!
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Post by nomar on Aug 28, 2012 15:41:00 GMT
I dont understand the view that dropping Tarbs makes the team more compact and to what end. Tarbs creates havoc for defenses when he's in possesion and creates the potential for goal scoring opportunities. The question that should be addressed is the one everyone appears to state and take for granted....that he doesn't play well away from home!!! Why not? Are they using a different ball? Is the grass different? Shouldn't the manager not see that and remedy it instead of dropping our most creative player??!! Its not exactly like the rest of our team except Taarabt has tended to play well away from home either, is it! Should be first name on team sheet every week in my opinion. We simply are not the same team without him.
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Post by Markqpr on Aug 28, 2012 15:55:16 GMT
Tarbs creates havoc for defenses when he's in possesion and creates the potential for goal scoring opportunities. Unfortunately that's also true for the opposition as he carelessly gives the ball away far too often, mainly thru greediness and then does nothing to win it back. He's too reckless in that respect for a cautious manager like Hughes, but Hughes needs to get him to play in a way where he can pick him away from home rather than just drop him and change the composition of the team week in, week out. As long as he continues to give the ball away cheaply that is never going to happen for him in the Premiership though and Hughes needs to sort that out or he'll never be the player we all know he could be.
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Post by blatantfowl on Aug 28, 2012 16:43:02 GMT
What Mark said, spot on.
Adel squanders possession too often. Until he learns that sometimes the simple ball is the right ball then he will find himself spending periods on the bench
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Post by cpr on Aug 28, 2012 21:20:52 GMT
Were we compact tonight?
Where was he?
Has he joined Milan in a px?
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Post by Markqpr on Aug 28, 2012 21:53:44 GMT
Were we compact tonight? Where was he? Has he joined Milan in a px? I did hear some things tonight about some toys, a pram and being dropped to the bench.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Aug 28, 2012 22:18:20 GMT
His replacement Hoilett was not good tonight.
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Post by cpr on Aug 28, 2012 22:33:29 GMT
His replacement Hoilett was not good tonight. Wasn't Saturday either. Toilet will be raising it's head again soon enough.
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Post by cowleyhoop on Aug 28, 2012 23:13:29 GMT
Its always going to be difficult for Adel away from home infact home or away he's a hard player to fit into any system. I think spurs have found the same problem with van der vart at times. Its great when you are playing well but always going to be the easy choice to drop when you are struggling Yes, but Spurs could drop VDV, because they have other creative players. We don't. And we need goals, chances, not to be 'compact' or whatever the euphemism. In two games we struggled to create real chances. The solution - yes, let's the drop the most creative guy. Yeh i see your point think we'd all rather Hughes signed some quality defensive players so we wouldn't have to drop our most creative player.
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Post by londonranger on Aug 29, 2012 1:26:06 GMT
Is Tarbs in a rubber room yet?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 1:43:24 GMT
His replacement Hoilett was not good tonight. remember how SWP impressed for a game when he first came to us
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Post by fraserinbc on Aug 29, 2012 2:30:50 GMT
are you KLR in disguise?
actually SWP had several great games for us at the beginning of the season. I would guess that the rot really began to set in after the WBA non-goal. I know it's not much, but slightly more than one game.
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Post by cpr on Aug 29, 2012 7:34:11 GMT
SWP had two good games for us then reverted to type.
Mainly helped by Colin playing him left and centre.
Does Hughes suffer from Not My Player syndrome?
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Post by qprtobefrank on Aug 29, 2012 8:40:22 GMT
I think the Swansea debacle really shocked Hughes and Tarbs paid the price. Hughes needed to avoid defeat on Saturday and maybe this wont be a true reflection on how he will use Adel this season.
His man management skills seem good and his comments were reasonable. However, my QPR team would always include the magician in the No. 10 although I would never be afraid of giving Adel the old "hook" after 60 mins if it wasn't his or our day up to that point.
I understand where some of you are coming from but I just rate the guy. I also agree that the insurance of having 2 holding midfielders (Faurlin & Diakite), playing workers like Park & Mackie ahead of Hoillet or SWP and GETTING A BLOODY BIG CENTRE HALF would help with the balance of the side with him in it. I would normally prefer 2 up front but Adel's inclusion would probably mean playing him in behind Zamora or Cisse.
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Post by cpr on Aug 29, 2012 11:05:11 GMT
Taarabt has been called up for the Morocco squad!!! He's in, he's out...
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