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Post by gramps on May 5, 2012 16:44:22 GMT
Rubbish picture, I know, but taken by my mate with a second hand Brownie box camera in circa 1948. Shows 12 year old me standing on the hallowed mud (sorry, turf) at L.R. which was allowed in those days. Note the state of the art public address system behind my right shoulder. Found this amongst a load of old photos we have been sorting today. Also several 'action' pics taken with the same camera but I don't think they are of a good enough quality to show here - in fact I know they're not. Will see what Photoshop can do with them.
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Post by Bushman on May 5, 2012 17:10:49 GMT
Smashing John.
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Post by andygg on May 5, 2012 18:17:21 GMT
Get off the pitch you little hooligan. ;D
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 5, 2012 18:27:27 GMT
Amazing Gramps!!
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Post by grillr on May 5, 2012 18:55:46 GMT
Great stuff! What a smart photo that is. As recently as early 80s some of us used to nip out of school at lunchtime to eat our sarnies at LR. Sounds bizarre but all the gates were usually open, especially the Ellerslie, so we'd wander in, sit in stands and munch our butties. Did this several times and eventually decided to bring a ball along to have a kick about on the pitch. Obviously this was taking things too far and we'd been playing about 5mins when the tannoy blared: Oi! get orf the pitch and orf the premises IMMEDIATELY!!!! We scarpered and seldom went back after that. Wish I'd had foresight to take some snaps (wouldn't have looked as dapper as gramps tho'!).
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Post by harlowranger on May 5, 2012 18:56:59 GMT
Pretty impressive Gramps, thanks for sharing with us
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2012 19:47:18 GMT
Do you remember the olympics that year gramps
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2012 20:15:00 GMT
Very Nice Gramps... Who knows: London might have been in the crowd at the same game...Maybe you even passed him or even spoke to him at the game...or outside the ground..
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Post by rousdonhoops on May 5, 2012 20:16:35 GMT
how much of the white city estate was built gramps?Was there much bomb damage around the Bush at the time?
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Post by marianqpr on May 5, 2012 21:06:53 GMT
What a smartly dressed young lad you were, John. Great picture, thanks for sharing.
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Post by gramps on May 5, 2012 21:18:07 GMT
Do you remember the olympics that year gramps Yes Andrew, I remember the Olympics although didn't attend any of the events and, of course, there was not the TV coverage in those days - besides which we couldn't afford one! Not sure about seeing London there, Mac. Although there was a really athletic, good looking guy used to stand near me - perhaps it was him. (Was it you, London?). Very little evidence of bomb damage in the area as I recall, Rousdon. Mind you, in those days we were so used to seeing bomb damage that we tended not to really notice, especially those of us who spent most of the war in London. Would you believe that for us kids the war was really quite fun? How strange is that? I had a great collection of shrapnel! OK, I ran this pic past Bushie and he has told me to put it on the board. Not good quality I am afraid and I may bore you with some similar (or worse) but remember - it was a rubbish camera in the hands of a schoolboy. The picture shows Reg Allen making a save from a Leeds United forward on December 17th 1949. This was a 1-1 draw and our goal was scored by inside right Tommy Best, his first for the club in only his second game.
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Post by londonranger on May 5, 2012 21:19:40 GMT
Yes must of been close, by, never had the nerve to walk on pitch, also had a Brownie Reflex Box
camera.. Dunno if Gramps saw Olympics, but did see two track and field events, relays won by Jamaica Mckenley Rhoden Wint and McKenzie. Fannie Blankers Coen and boxing at Wembley Pool. Memories
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Post by gramps on May 5, 2012 21:19:43 GMT
What a smartly dressed young lad you were, John. Great picture, thanks for sharing. Thanks Marian, you are obviously a connoisseur of true elegance in young men.
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Post by gramps on May 5, 2012 21:22:31 GMT
Yes must of been close, by, never had the nerve to walk on pitch, also had a Brownie Reflex Box camera.. Dunno if Gramps saw Olympics, but did see two track and field events, relays won by Jamaica Mckenley Rhoden Wint and McKenzie. Fannie Blankers Coen and boxing at Wembley Pool. Memories Yes London, those names conjure up memories, especially Fannie. Great athlete. Always down the front behind the goal so I could get as close as possible to my idol, Reg Allen. OK, I know I have said it before but what a 'keeper he was and a nice bloke too - always had time for us kids.
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Post by londonranger on May 5, 2012 22:36:53 GMT
Then we mustve been very close. Also my idol.
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Post by fraserinbc on May 6, 2012 2:26:16 GMT
I don't know about anyone else, but I personally love having these photos posted to the board. They are blurry, but that just adds to the authenticity of the time and place captured.
Great stuff, Gramps.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 2:50:53 GMT
I don't know about anyone else, but I personally love having these photos posted to the board. They are blurry, but that just adds to the authenticity of the time and place captured. Great stuff, Gramps. agreed
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Post by canadaranger on May 6, 2012 5:06:09 GMT
Gramps... I don't suppose you remember circa 1948 a 14-15 year old lad called Malcolm (a sprinter) who attended the games with his Dad, Samuel ("Sandy"). The Dad would have worn a military beret... Small world if you did.
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Post by haqpr1963 on May 6, 2012 6:37:25 GMT
Brilliant stuff Gramps...
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Post by gramps on May 6, 2012 7:31:27 GMT
Gramps... I don't suppose you remember circa 1948 a 14-15 year old lad called Malcolm (a sprinter) who attended the games with his Dad, Samuel ("Sandy"). The Dad would have worn a military beret... Small world if you did. Doesn't ring a bell, Canada. Strange that I somehow feel it should but considerable water has flowed under the bridge since then. Due to standing on the terraces in those days there was a lot more 'togetherness' between the fans (of both sides!!) because you could move about more and say "hello" to people. More pics to come when I can work on them but I am afraid that the current one is one of the best of the bunch. Sorry, I quoted the wrong match with the last picture. It was against Leeds but occurred the following season - a 1-1 draw with Tommy Best scoring our goal. Have amended the information with the picture.
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Post by gramps on May 6, 2012 9:04:53 GMT
OK, here's another one, taken from that same Leeds match. We were drawing 1-1 in this pre-Christmas match on 17th December. It is really weird that I seem to remember this particular incident as though it was just last week. We were awarded a penalty for handball in the area. Frank Neary - he of the cannonball shot - hit the ball really hard from the spot and it went about a foot from the ground and about two feet inside the right hand post. Leeds goalkeeper Harry Searson guessed the right way, dived and punched the ball against the post; it rebounded into his arms and he cleared it up the field. That season we ended up third from last in the Second Division (now Championship), on 34 points from 42 games and just avoided relegation although we went down two seasons later to Division Three South. Remember that in those days it was two points for a win and one for a draw. Relegated were Plymouth Argyle (we lost to them 0-2 at home and won 2-0 away) and Bradford Park Avenue to whom we lost both home and away by 0-1. Promoted were Spurs and we lost to them at White Hart Lane 0-3 and at LR 0-2 Coincidentally, Bradford Park Avenue are today (6th May) playing in the Evo-Stik Northern Premier Play Off final against FC United of Manchester for promotion to the Conference North. Anyway, the picture shows Neary taking the penalty and Searson ready to make his stunning save.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 6, 2012 11:33:39 GMT
Candidate for "Spot the ball"??
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Post by sharky on May 6, 2012 11:46:07 GMT
Candidate for "Spot the ball"?? Spot the blur!!! Seriously though these photos and stories take us back to a different time, a time of greater innocence, when football grounds were part of the community as were the teams, when big money didn't dominate the game. A better time maybe. Thanks Gramps and all for the memories
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Post by bp on May 6, 2012 11:51:13 GMT
The old ground was so nice, to lie on the terraces in the sun at the start of the season and wander from end to end at half time.
That tannoy system was as useful as a chocolate fire grate.
Put you hands over your nose and mouth [pinching nose for extra authenticity] and mumble anything and you will have it off perfect.
Fantastic Gramps.!!
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 6, 2012 15:15:07 GMT
Candidate for "Spot the ball"?? Spot the blur!!! Seriously though these photos and stories take us back to a different time, a time of greater innocence, when football grounds were part of the community as were the teams, when big money didn't dominate the game. A better time maybe. Thanks Gramps and all for the memories Highlighted the important bit
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Post by gramps on May 6, 2012 18:23:45 GMT
PS Further to my earlier comment, Bradford P.A. won today and have got their promotion. Good for them.
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Post by gramps on May 7, 2012 7:42:03 GMT
OK Guys, here's another one - dare I say a touch better? This is from the match against Hull City on October 8th 1949 when we got a 1-4 drubbing at LR. The picture shows Hull's legendary goalkeeper Billy Bly who has just saved a shot at goal. The Hull right back (don't know who that was - Bushy?) is back defending the goal line. Third from right in the picture you can see the silver hair of the legendary Hull player-manager at the time, Horatio (Raich) Carter and think the Rangers' player on the extreme right is Ted Duggan who scored our only goal. Hull's scorers were Carter (2), Jensen and Harrison. This was Hull's biggest ever win against us; they were promoted to Division Two the previous season. An additional point of some interest is that goalkeeper Billy Bly was custodian between the sticks for Hull for no less than 22 years. In the return fixture at Hull we drew 1-1 with our goal being scored by Don Mills. It was a good season for Hull as they ended up 7th.
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Post by Macmoish on May 7, 2012 8:02:16 GMT
Great Stuff, Gramps (And was there a QPR Official Going around the ground saying "No Photos" )
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Post by Bushman on May 7, 2012 8:47:10 GMT
OK Guys, here's another one - dare I say a touch better? This is from the match against Hull City on October 8th 1949 when we got a 1-4 drubbing at LR. The picture shows Hull's legendary goalkeeper Billy Bly who has just saved a shot at goal. The Hull right back (don't know who that was - Bushy?) is back defending the goal line. Third from right in the picture you can see the silver hair of the legendary Hull player-manager at the time, Horatio (Raich) Carter and think the Rangers' player on the extreme right is Ted Duggan who scored our only goal. Hull's scorers were Carter (2), Jensen and Harrison. This was Hull's biggest ever win against us; they were promoted to Division Two the previous season. An additional point of some interest is that goalkeeper Billy Bly was custodian between the sticks for Hull for no less than 22 years. In the return fixture at Hull we drew 1-1 with our goal being scored by Don Mills. It was a good season for Hull as they ended up 7th. Gerry Bowler played at No.2 that day. He passed away in 2006 at the age of 82.
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Post by gramps on May 7, 2012 9:09:23 GMT
Thanks Bushy. I knew you wouldn't let me down! Very unusual for Cyril Hatton to be playing in defence but as I recall we had quite a few injuries at that time.
Mac, nobody worried about photos being taken in those days. We all did it.
Don't you just love those knee length shorts, Guys?
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