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Dave Sexton
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Post by bowles on Mar 12, 2012 20:50:18 GMT
i wonder if you could tell me mate how many teams have come up as champoins from the champoinship and gone straight back down the following season since the prem started?? cheers bud!
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 21:33:19 GMT
The last one was WBA in 08/09 finished bottom 32 points . TABLE 17 HULL 35PTS 18 NEWCASTLE 34 PTS 19 BORO 32 PTS WBA 32 PTS
Probably similar to what the table will look like this year?
That year Hull (p.o.winners)and Stoke (Runner up)stayed , the season Phil whathis name started singing on the pitch , but they came right back up again the following year didnt they celebrate promotion against us 09/10, then you have to go a fair way back i dont know off the top will check now.
next one
Sunderland , won the Champs 04-05 second was Wigan (stayed in Prem until now just) WHU play off winners
Prem 05-06
17th Pompey 38 pts 18th Birmingham 34 pts 19th WBA 30 pts 20th Sunderland 15 pts , second lowest in Prem history .
So these two winners both went down the following year as bottom Prem and the other two promoted teams survived,. and like WBA above , they came up the very next /first year .
good omens for us these two examples.
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Dave Sexton
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Post by bowles on Mar 12, 2012 21:54:46 GMT
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 22:00:53 GMT
third one = Norwich City
First Div winners 03-04 2nd WBA P.O.Winners Palace
Prem Table 04-05
17th WBA 34 PTS lowest ever survival points!!! 18th Palace 33 PTS 19th Norwich 33 PTS 20th Southampton 32 PTS
So Norwich Winners came down after one year finishing 19th with the play off winners aswell .
Strangely again another table that will resemble ours !!!
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 22:06:47 GMT
The 4th one Bowles is ..
Forest - Div One winners 97-98 2ND Boro P.O.winners Charlton
Prem table 98-99
17th Southampton 41 pts 18th Charlton 36 pts 19th Blackburn 35pts 20th Forest . 30 pts
So League winners went down , bottom again , with Charlton the Play off winners .
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 22:17:03 GMT
5th one =
Bolton Winners Div 1 96-97 Barnsley 2nd P.O.Winner Palace
Prem 97-98
17th Everton 40 pts 18th Bolton 40 pts 19th Barnsley 35 pts 20th Palace 33 pts
So that year all three promoted teams went straight back down .
6th and last one .
Sunderland Div 1 winners 95-96 2nd Derby P.O. Winners Leics.
Prem 96-97
17th Coventry 41 pts 18th Sunderland 40pts 19th Boro 39 pts 20th Forest 34 points
So just the League winners down that year ..
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Dave Sexton
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Post by bowles on Mar 12, 2012 22:27:12 GMT
so all the teams that came up as champoins and went down after one season bar forest are all plying their trade in the prem at the moment, which would suggest that they all had a bit of yo-yo quality which leads me to beleave that if we go down this season we are well placed to come back up pretty soon!
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 22:31:53 GMT
Recap- 6 Winners went straight down 08-09 WBA 20th, 32 points total, came straight back up one yr . 05-06 SUNDERLAND 20th , 15 points total ,came straight back up one year . 04-05 Norwich 19th , 33 points total , 6 seasons to get back up. inc dropping to Div 1. 98-99 Forest 20 th , 30 points , Been to Div one , still not made it back in 12 seasons 97-98 Bolton 18th , 40 points , 3 seasons and then came back up . 96-97 Sunderland 18th 40 points , 2 seasons and then came back . So of the six teams , two came straight up after 1 year , one took 2 seasons , 1 took 3 seasons , 1 took 6 seasons and the other is still not up . Good for us the most recent two WBA and Sunderland came straight back up . Hope thats ok
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 12, 2012 22:36:57 GMT
so all the teams that came up as champoins and went down after one season bar forest are all plying their trade in the prem at the moment, which would suggest that they all had a bit of yo-yo quality which leads me to beleave that if we go down this season we are well placed to come back up pretty soon! Yes mate 5 of the 6 all doing ok , plying their trade depending if Bolton stay up of course , but think they will . Omens look pretty good , i'm adamant we can be back up in 2 seasons . UR'S
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