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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 12:32:41 GMT
Yes I know. Something is missing in the statement! (And based on past posting experience: Never say "Last post" ) Pete/WATRB Many Thanks .. My Last Post On Last Week The most difficult week I've ever had being a QPR fan. From finger pointing to personal abuse, on which some think I am solely responsible. I carried the can for a post that I never posted and in the first instance was seen by fans to be written in favour of Paulo Sousa. I have no doubts it was written in favour, but when people need a scapegoat, its easy to lay the blame at someone who has been harping on about the continual tinkering and inept performances. In hindsight, I went over the top but when you read other reports from other sites, opinion is pretty much the same on the way we played and the feeling we were going nowhere fast. To win Saturday and to at last see football worth the entrance fee gave me at least some satisfaction, but the over-riding thing for me is my passion for this football club. I would do nothing to damage it and hopefully in 12 months time this sorry episode will be a thing of the past. The next chapter of QPR is about to be written and I hope anyone who knows me, would know that I was giving an opinion, this was not shared by the majority, but at the end of the day it was opinion. At times like this you know who your friends are and I would like to make a point of thanking them for their support at this very difficult time. I have felt very down over the last week and thanks to you, it has been easier to bear. Come on you rrrrrr'ssssssssssssss __________________ This Site have Interviews with Paul parker, Clive Wilson, Rodney Marsh and Stan Bowles We have over 15 classic QPR games from the Archive. www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7939
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 12:43:56 GMT
Maybe Scott you can try and fill in these very clear gaps left unsaid by Pete's statement. What used to be know in the days of Nixon as "Stonewalling"
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Post by FloridaR on Apr 14, 2009 12:47:35 GMT
edit - sounds better Captains Log - opinion entry - stardate April 2009
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 12:53:19 GMT
And not answering... Well I might just as well repost what I posted on my WATRB blog! No one deserves to be threatened. But Pete is too glib in his post and ignores some of the central questions. Pete and Scott finally responded yesterday and said the club contacted them about the post. That raises other interesting questions - including the process by which the club got in touch with the original poster. And what role WATRB played re that. The central one which I have asked and which have others have asked - but he has consistently refused to respond to: What is the source/and under what circumstances was Pete provided the information ? When THE post was made re Sousa's desire for a Portugese defender, WHY did Pete respond (with that internal information - "[T]he Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut" So how suddenly did Pete come into this information? What was the process: Did Pete contact the club and tell them about that there was this poster saying what SOusa ostensibly said: And he needed some facts to refute the claims? Or to put Sousa in a bad light? WHat exactly was this process? And when is Pete going to respond to the real issues instead of creating straw arguments to respond to? If Managers are going to be ousted for revealing confidential information...Should other club officials be treated any differently? www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=174
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Post by superckat on Apr 14, 2009 13:26:21 GMT
I'm willing to bet Sousa had a worse week.
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Post by eusebio13 on Apr 14, 2009 14:44:00 GMT
What a martyr...frankly I like Pete's get up and go and his desire to generate something new on we are the rangers boys but his campaign against Sousa was shameful and went way beyond opinion into character assasination and it is great credit to most on WATRBs that support for Sousa was so solid in the face of it.
While I will always love my club this episode and to a lesser extent the treatment of Dowie has diminished us. We are tarnished by behaviour that shouldn't be associated with our club and I can only hope that in the spirit of Easter that the club is reborn as something more intouch with its integrity and its moral backbone.
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Post by superckat on Apr 14, 2009 16:28:50 GMT
What a martyr...frankly I like Pete's get up and go and his desire to generate something new on we are the rangers boys but his campaign against Sousa was shameful and went way beyond opinion into character assasination and it is great credit to most on WATRBs that support for Sousa was so solid in the face of it. While I will always love my club this episode and to a lesser extent the treatment of Dowie has diminished us. We are tarnished by behaviour that shouldn't be associated with our club and I can only hope that in the spirit of Easter that the club is reborn as something more intouch with its integrity and its moral backbone. Godammit Report. Are you gonna get any applaud smileys here? Anyway well said Eusebio.
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 16:32:54 GMT
Godammit Report. Are you gonna get any applaud smileys here? ..... Those were extra, so I didn't buy them (But I'll look how to get them - unless someone has an instant answer already? There are some others: I like the blushing one. And a few others that other sites have)
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Post by Markqpr on Apr 14, 2009 16:32:59 GMT
Reminds me of this:
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 16:38:47 GMT
And still not answering. Although has time to start a half dozen threads: As I told him: He can Run But he can't hide Scott at least attempted to answer on the blog. But Pete...Pete...Pete I guess he'll be resorting to the and the as he avoids answering. Anyone have Mr. Briatore's email? Yes it's time SCOTT: I don't think any have the answers Mike. IMHO the post is/was just an element of a bigger picture that none of us are privvy to understanding. QPR REPORT Well Pete certainly has that information. He rapdily responded to the Sousa's assertion with this supposed ITK response re the Portugese player. That's a two-issued problem: One that he was given this information; two that he was presumably given the information to respond to the Sousa assertion. SCOTT I really dont know about the 300K thingy mate. I have no idea and never heard that from anyone I know. QPR REPORT So I guess you and I both eagerly await hearing from Pete!
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Post by bigade on Apr 14, 2009 16:51:20 GMT
can someone enlighten me to exactly what has gone on here i'm a bit perplexed
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Post by eusebio13 on Apr 14, 2009 16:59:21 GMT
can someone enlighten me to exactly what has gone on here i'm a bit perplexed When the infamous posting was made it included the assertion that PS had wanted a Portuguese leftback who would be available on a free. Pete very quickly posted that the fullback mentioned would have actually cost £300K and that Sousa was going to get a cut. Now Report has quite rightly asked that if the club sacked PS because he divulged sensitive & confidential information, then where did Pete's info on the deal come from? Was it (a) Pete made it up (b) Someone at the club divulged this to Pete and perhaps deserves atleast the same fate that PS had (c) Someone at the club made it up and leaked it to Pete just to discredit PS. Now all those answers cause Pete difficulty and therefore he remains silent on the matter
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 14, 2009 17:00:26 GMT
Pete thinks he can wait this out...Run out the clock...Say that's it. And move on. But no. He did things. He said things. And he's not answering the questions remained unanswered.
And just because this happened a week ago. Or the questions were posed a week ago does not make it a "We have moved on" moment
Throw in a little self pity...and away you go!
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Post by haqpr1963 on Apr 15, 2009 9:20:14 GMT
If we are expecting Pete to answer a difficult (ie not following his agenda) question I think we are are all going to have a very long wait.......
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Post by moriarty on Apr 15, 2009 10:30:28 GMT
Perhaps the flip side might be true - Pete is being used by the club to gauge reactions to various ideas within the club - even with his anti PS tirade, it seemed a poll result showed 90% in favour of keeping PS, so how does the club remove PS without paying him off?
PS stated he wouldn't walk, so the club needs grounds for dismissal - what better way to discredit him in the eyes of the supporters? perhaps by telling us he is getting a player that should be free, but we're paying for them and PS is getting a cut, which in itself would/should be scandalous, the trouble was that it backfired because now we want answers as to where this info came from, and I don't think that this can be given as Pete can not say because it would reveal his club 'sauce'.
Whether or not this is actually true remains to be proved, but to me it would seem much better grounds for dismissal that anything Dex related, which appears to be the grounds the club are using.
I think Pete has been used really badly by his source at the club.
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 15, 2009 11:11:08 GMT
Perhaps the flip side might be true - Pete is being used by the club to gauge reactions to various ideas within the club - even with his anti PS tirade, it seemed a poll result showed 90% in favour of keeping PS, so how does the club remove PS without paying him off? PS stated he wouldn't walk, so the club needs grounds for dismissal - what better way to discredit him in the eyes of the supporters? perhaps by telling us he is getting a player that should be free, but we're paying for them and PS is getting a cut, which in itself would/should be scandalous, the trouble was that it backfired because now we want answers as to where this info came from, and I don't think that this can be given as Pete can not say because it would reveal his club 'sauce'. Whether or not this is actually true remains to be proved, but to me it would seem much better grounds for dismissal that anything Dex related, which appears to be the grounds the club are using. I think Pete has been used really badly by his source at the club. Well when Pete was doing his Sousa campaign, I questioned whether he as being used as a "Stalking Horse"/Trial Baloon. And if Pete feels he's been badly used: Well "Payback's a Bitch" - Reveal his source and let pay him (or her) pay the consequences.
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Post by bigade on Apr 15, 2009 16:57:29 GMT
mmmmmm this has more bones to pick than a triceratops,but hey live by the sword and all the usual analogies.
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