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Post by tom007 on Jan 25, 2012 23:59:07 GMT
i keep trying maude but for some reason it wont let me.lol
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Post by tom007 on Jan 26, 2012 0:05:46 GMT
thats what the players should do to terry saturday.lol Attachments:
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 8:05:29 GMT
David Conn
Onus on clubs to prevent ugly spectre of racism rearing its head again Liverpool host Manchester United in the FA Cup with the clubs' bitter rivalry soured by the Luis Suárez affairIf you had invited predictions a year ago about football's most combustible issue, it is unlikely that racism, the focus of sustained and successful efforts to kick it out, would have come anywhere near top of the list. Yet as Liverpool prepare to face Manchester United in the FA Cup for a match in danger of being more poisonous than for a long time, football's long, progressive battle against racism is suddenly spotlit again. Two incidents of the highest profile have done that: Liverpool's Luis Suárez, banned for eight matches by an FA regulatory commission for racially insulting United's Patrice Evra, and the Chelsea and England captain John Terry awaiting trial, accused of committing a racially aggravated public order offence when directing abuse at Queens Park Rangers' Anton Ferdinand, a charge Terry denies. QPR and Chelsea also meet again in the Cup this weekend. Of greater concern to the game's long-serving anti-racism campaigners and current and former black players who have spoken out, were Liverpool's unequivocal support of Suárez, complete with those human rights-style T-shirts, after the striker was found guilty and the torrent of racist abuse of Evra which polluted the internet in its slipstream. Stan Collymore, the former Liverpool striker turned radio broadcaster, collected Twitter rants including uses of "N-Word" and "slave" in relation to Evra. Kick It Out, football's flagship anti-discrimination organisation, which has helped to cleanse the sport since the 1970s and 1980s when such abuse was routinely shouted en masse at the grounds, received similar racist abuse by email. Herman Ouseley, the organisation's unpaid chairman, was personally sent around 350 emails he said were abusive. Ouseley is emphatic that Liverpool's consistent support of Suárez, admitting no validity at all to the guilty finding, "damaged" Liverpool's otherwise clear commitment to tackling racism. "We have moved a long way from the days when I wanted to watch football but couldn't because of the atmosphere of nastiness and intimidation," Ouseley said. "We have not eliminated the attitudes; ignorance and bigotry are there in society but people know they cannot play it out at football the way they used to. But the Suárez incident has put into focus the lack of responsibility and leadership at the top; the effect of Liverpool's reaction was hugely damaging to their message of anti-racism. That showed the game still has work to do." Liverpool, in the face of all the criticism, including from black former players Paul McGrath and Paul Elliott and the current Blackburn Rovers striker Jason Roberts, are aware that their image as a club committed to the firmest of values has been compromised. Yet still the club have not officially retreated an inch from their repeated reaction to the judgment, claiming Evra's accusation that Suárez racially abused him was entirely false, that the FA's commission found it "ultimately unsubstantiated" and so reached a "highly subjective case against Suárez". There have, since, been reiterations by Kenny Dalglish of the club's anti-racist stance and a firm reaction after a supporter was alleged to have racially abused the Oldham full-back Tom Adeyemi in the FA Cup tie on 6 January at Anfield, played in a fever of pro-Suárez sentiment. Yet Liverpool have not accepted any elements of the case against Suárez that the commission said it found persuasive. The judgment said Suárez's claim to have been "conciliatory and friendly" in the set-to with Evra was not believable, given the "mutual animosity" of their argument clear in video evidence. Even Suárez's lawyer, Peter McCormick, acknowledged he could not sustain Suárez's case that the player pinching Evra was an attempt to "defuse" the situation, rather than, as the commission found, an attempt to wind the United player up. Liverpool, who have been forensic in criticising the FA's process and level of proof that satisfied the commission – there were no witnesses to the exchanges – have nevertheless allowed McCormick's allegation against Evra, contained in the judgment, to linger. Suárez's lawyer told the commission that Evra was completely and deliberately making it up when, immediately after the match, he told four team-mates that Suárez had said to him: "I don't speak to blacks" and sustained the allegation for three months, through an FA investigation, to a full two-day hearing with QCs, as "vengeance" for Suárez fouling him and then not apologising. Piara Powar, the former Kick It Out director, now executive director of the Europe-wide Fare football anti-discrimination network, said he was dismayed by Liverpool's response. "Outside of Liverpool football club, everybody seems to feel that the club's reputation was damaged: they did not appear to hold a thorough investigation following the incident, then determinedly defended Suárez even after the written reasons. I do think it contributed to the idea in some people's minds that racist abuse is tolerated again. It has shown us that institutionally the clubs have a long way to go." Both Ouseley and Powar made reference as context to the racist murder in south London of the black teenager Stephen Lawrence, in 1993, the same year Ouseley helped form Kick It Out to counter racism rampant in football. Two of Lawrence's killers, Gary Dobson and David Norris, were finally convicted of the murder on 3 January this year and on the same day Liverpool issued their statement challenging the FA's decision that Suárez racially abused Evra. Ouseley, who as chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality helped to formulate the definition of "institutional racism" delivered by the Macpherson inquiry into the Lawrence murder, was particularly disappointed that the wider context, an opportunity to reflect on how far attitudes to race have improved, was not more carefully considered. "We are in a different world from 1993, in society and in football," Ouseley said. "But the point about institutions is to see collective action, so that the clubs, the organisations, give a consistent message and employ best practice, including in difficult situations." Kick It Out has developed an equality standard, internal procedures which incorporate anti-discrimination. Arsenal are the first to achieve the advanced standard; Liverpool, who are at pains in the run-up to the United game to restate their commitment to and work on anti-racism, have the preliminary standard. Liverpool said: "It is disappointing that recent events have led some people to the perception that our stance on racism and discrimination is not as firm as it is. We clearly have to work hard to address this view and reiterate our unequivocal support for the continuing fight against discrimination." Almost 20 years since football established its campaign to kick racism out it has, quite unexpectedly, taken centre stage again, and the parliamentary culture, media and sport select committee has launched an inquiry. Steve Rotheram, the Liverpool Walton MP who called for the inquiry, said the Anfield club made mistakes in their handling of the Suárez affair, which, he said, they will come to recognise in hindsight, saying: "This has to be lanced, now." A summary of the inquiry's outcome can be confidently predicted already: great strides have been made in football since the shameful mass monkey chants directed at black players in the 1980s. But recent events have shown the spectre of racism still lurks and clubs have great responsibilities to be constant and consistent in their opposition to it. Shoestring budget For the multibillion-pound sport which football has become, its key organisation devoted to tackling discrimination operates with scant resources. Kick It Out is funded with £110,000 a year from each of the Premier League, Football Association and Professional Footballers' Association; the Football Foundation used to contribute £110,000 too, but that stopped two years ago when the structure of its own funding changed. The £330,000 total for Kick It Out has to fund the organisation's office on Clerkenwell Road in London, all its campaigns and six staff. Given the organisation's responsibility for an issue so serious in a national game formerly beset by racism, and its visibility, itself becoming a target for racists when incidents blow up, the chairman, Herman Ouseley, who is unpaid, said it operates on a "shoestring". Kick It Out has run up a deficit totalling £60,000 which the Premier League has agreed to clear. It has also been without a full-time director since Piara Powar left to take up a role with Football Against Racism in Europe. Ouseley said the organisation intends to develop a strategy to expand and improve its operations and the Premier League has said it is open in principle to providing additional funding for such a plan. www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/jan/25/clubs-racism
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 11:18:31 GMT
Dave McIntyre/West London Sport
Ferdinand unaffected by Terry furore – boss
QPR manager Mark Hughes insists Anton Ferdinand is unfazed by the prospect of lining up against John Terry.
Both players will be in the spotlight on Saturday as it will be their first encounter since Rangers’ controversial victory over Chelsea at Loftus Road in October.
Terry is set to return to W12. Blues skipper Terry has subsequently been charged with racially abusing the R’s defender during that match, which he strongly denies doing.
There has been speculation about whether Ferdinand will shake Terry’s hand ahead of this weekend’s game and Hughes has faced questions about whether he will select the centre-back.
But Hughes revealed: “He’s not come to me and said ‘Gaffer I need to speak about this situation’ so I don’t think it’s affected him at all to be perfectly honest.
“I’ll speak to him only to get it clear in my own mind where he is with it all. It’d be silly not to do that I would suggest.
“I’ll talk to him, but I don’t think it’s going to have any influence on my decision whether to pick him.”http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/ferdinand-unaffected-by-terry-furore-boss/
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Post by sharky on Jan 26, 2012 12:41:25 GMT
Why all this speculation about whether Anton will play. He has done nothing wrong. It's that b*st*rd Terry who is being prosecuted for doi g wrong to Anton!!
It's Terry who shouldn't be playing and we should be telling him so!!
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 26, 2012 12:48:10 GMT
Sorry, but that's an awful statement. We are historically an inclusive football club with NO history of our players or our fans being any part of racist abuse. How dare the Club tarnish our own fans with Chelsea's dirty brush. Chelsea are the club with dual problems, why the hell are we helping them to get out of the mess created by their own captain and years and years of the Mears family, Ken Bates and Colin Hutchinson not properly neutering the problem at the Bridge in the 70's and 80's? It's verging on the obscene. Of course Ferdinand shouldn't shake his hand. It wouldn't be sincere and Terry's legal team will use the handshake in evidence at his trial. Horrible idea Agreed. Another huge PR own goal by the club. I wonder which idiot thought up the idea....
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Post by bowranger on Jan 26, 2012 13:06:10 GMT
Sorry, but that's an awful statement. We are historically an inclusive football club with NO history of our players or our fans being any part of racist abuse. How dare the Club tarnish our own fans with Chelsea's dirty brush. Chelsea are the club with dual problems, why the hell are we helping them to get out of the mess created by their own captain and years and years of the Mears family, Ken Bates and Colin Hutchinson not properly neutering the problem at the Bridge in the 70's and 80's? It's verging on the obscene. Of course Ferdinand shouldn't shake his hand. It wouldn't be sincere and Terry's legal team will use the handshake in evidence at his trial. Horrible idea Completely agree. Chelsea are obliged to put out anti-racist statements - doesn't mean they adequately dealt with the problem in the past or continue to do so. I mean, I don't know how many statements i've read from Millwall about being a family club with zero tolerance towards racism that tally against experience (e.g. cops doing nothing about monkey gestures being made towards some of our black supporters when we last played them in clear view - but more tellingly in full view of loads of Millwall fans who sat and did F*** all to stop it). Now obviously we're biased but I am pretty damn sure that if someone in R Block was doing the same he would be "reprimanded" (to put it politely) by our own fanbase. Because racism is one of a few things which transcends club loyalty, be it amongst fans or players or staff. In that respect. It's related to that why I have such a problem with the joint statement. It all just reeks of brushing everything under the carpet and "getting on with the game". I don't care if it's fiery, people are angry and they have every right to be. This is bigger than 90 minutes of football. They are professional players and they are capable of the game not falling into a complete farce but it is beyond patronising just to act like nothing has happened. Similarly I am annoyed because the club statement comes out as a position of club-equality. We're not the club with a problem with racism. We don't have fans who get done for racist chanting. We don't have a historical firm that's linked to blood and honour and C18. So why are we acting like we have as much necessity to issue this as Chelsea's board. Don't get me wrong, I don't see anything wrong with the QPR board appealing for people not to take things too far, fair enough. But why are all fans being warned about discriminatory language when Chelsea fans have TWICE been done in recent games for racist violence and chanting (e.g. 2 incidents after their Norwich game). Personally I would have been far happier with our club making a plea against violence, pledging our support for Anton and encouraging our fans to continue our tradition of not being a discriminatory club. As for an anonymous text line for "inflammatory" language.? Watch your mouths everyone, jeez... It's beyond patronising. It's a derby, it is going to be fiery and for the vast majority of the time, that passion stays within certain parameters. If some nutter from either side's fanbase takes it within their hands to go beyond that then a joint statement isn't going to stop them. Personally I think Fernandes has been mugged off by the Chelsea board into a statement that is all about vague mutualities and brushing very REAL problems under the carpet. A statement encouraging supporters not to act like dickheads is fine - to roll over and act like we're dealing with a mutual problem and not supporting our own players is not necessary in making that statement.
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Post by klr on Jan 26, 2012 13:13:09 GMT
Sorry, but that's an awful statement. We are historically an inclusive football club with NO history of our players or our fans being any part of racist abuse. How dare the Club tarnish our own fans with Chelsea's dirty brush. Chelsea are the club with dual problems, why the hell are we helping them to get out of the mess created by their own captain and years and years of the Mears family, Ken Bates and Colin Hutchinson not properly neutering the problem at the Bridge in the 70's and 80's? It's verging on the obscene. Of course Ferdinand shouldn't shake his hand. It wouldn't be sincere and Terry's legal team will use the handshake in evidence at his trial. Horrible idea Agreed. Another huge PR own goal by the club. I wonder which idiot thought up the idea.... Agree as well, its insulting & unneccesary.
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Post by sharky on Jan 26, 2012 14:40:02 GMT
YOUR BEHAVIOUR - A REMINDER Posted on: Thu 26 Jan 2012 Queens Park Rangers Football Club is committed to confronting and eliminating discrimination, whether by reason of race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, age, ethnic and national origin, disability, nationality, religion or belief or gender reassignment. The Club is proud of the atmosphere we have at Loftus Road and by working together we can stop any discrimination or behavior that has no place in football. Loftus Road is governed by Ground Regulations and we would like to remind all visitors that by entering the ground they are agreeing to abide by these rules. Entry to the Ground is expressly subject to acceptance by the visitor of these Ground Regulations and the rules and regulations of FIFA, UEFA, The Football Association, The Premier League and The Football League in respect of the relevant competition. The Ground Regulations incorporate the Club's Customer Charter (if any). Entry to the Ground shall constitute acceptance of the Ground Regulations. Racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment is strictly forbidden and will result in arrest and / or ejection from the Ground, and in addition the Club will impose a ban for one or more matches. QPR will not tolerate sexual or racially based harassment, or other discriminatory behaviour, whether physical or verbal and where required we will work in full co-operation with the Metropolitan Police to provide CCTV footage and staff statements to ensure prosecution. Any actions that lead to prosecution or removal from the ground will result in a ban. No supporter needs to tolerate discrimination of any kind at Loftus Road, on the pitch or in the stands. If you experience any form of discrimination, help us to eliminate it from football. Please report this to the Club by texting the Matchday Control Room on 07557 435421. We will treat your correspondence in strictest confidence.
I wish to report discrimination by John Terry and want him removed from the ground if he arrives at Loftus Road!!!
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 14:45:12 GMT
...gender reassignment....
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 14:47:14 GMT
I have no problem with the club posting these conditions. Strange theyr'e doing it now.
(And of course, I always found it "puzzling" that the club which has strongly condemned violence, hooliganism, etc, in the past, had such a close relationship with a messageboard which whatever it may do now - clearly did not vigorously adhere to such ...!)
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Post by klr on Jan 26, 2012 15:19:37 GMT
"gender reassignment"
Jesus Christ, you couldnt make this sort of stuff up could you ?!
You can count me out of living in a society like this, deary me.
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Post by klr on Jan 26, 2012 15:23:01 GMT
Maybe they should make people sign binding statements on what they can say & think once they have entered the ground ?
I cant believe any free willed person would defend something like this, sinister beyond belief.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 15:24:10 GMT
Putting the shoe on the other foot, Klr: Would you set ANY limits to what fans can say or sing or do at a game?
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Post by klr on Jan 26, 2012 15:29:01 GMT
Putting the shoe on the other foot, Klr: Would you set ANY limits to what fans can say or sing or do at a game? No, none at all, if someone was mouthing off over & over again, then people would put him right, if someone was overstepping the mark with their comments, then people would put them right, firstly in a polite manner & then in a less polite way, its always been that way at QPR & IMO its the right way for something to be dealt with. But for any of you lot that dont agree with me, you can always text the "Matchday Control Room" deary me, is that what we have been reduced to ?
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Post by kilburnhoop on Jan 26, 2012 15:34:49 GMT
If this had been dealt with when it happened, there would be none of this. 3 months and counting!! As someone posted before, if id have used the words Terry did and been caught i wouldnt be taking my seat sat id be banned.
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 26, 2012 15:45:00 GMT
Agree with Scooter and others about the first statement.
It would have been nice for our club to have shown a bit of backbone and refused the police request for a joint statement, simply putting out our own, reminding our fans to carry on as normal and not to resort to the base standards of our opponents.
Remind me, whose captain is up in the dock for racial abuse next week? Whose club has a long association with racist far right groups? Which club regularly offends it's own supporters everytime they play Tottenham Hotspur? Not us and it never will be, so why treat us the same as that scum? Obviously the honour of being a supporter of such a club has been lost on our board and PR department.
The second statement is laughable in it's mainly a plea to common sense.
You can see it's ticked all the right boxes on the government advice sheet on what to say in such a statement and comes across as an empty statement no more extolling the virtues of common sense.
This really is a case of the PC bunch intruding on football, as there is no problem down the Rangers so why do we have to listen to this?
Leave football alone, deal with the racists as you would anyone else, there is no need to tell decent fans what to do.
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Post by bowranger on Jan 26, 2012 15:52:34 GMT
Agree with Scooter and others about the first statement. It would have been nice for our club to have shown a bit of backbone and refused the police request for a joint statement, simply putting out our own, reminding our fans to carry on as normal and not to resort to the base standards of our opponents. Remind me, whose captain is up in the dock for racial abuse next week? Whose club has a long association with racist far right groups? Which club regularly offends it's own supporters everytime they play Tottenham Hotspur? Not us and it never will be, so why treat us the same as that scum? Obviously the honour of being a supporter of such a club has been lost on our board and PR department. The second statement is laughable in it's mainly a plea to common sense. You can see it's ticked all the right boxes on the government advice sheet on what to say in such a statement and comes across as an empty statement no more extolling the virtues of common sense. This really is a case of the PC bunch intruding on football, as there is no problem down the Rangers so why do we have to listen to this? Leave football alone, deal with the racists as you would anyone else, there is no need to tell decent fans what to do. See I think the "PC" thing to do would be what you're suggesting (same as Scooter and myself). All political correctness is, in essence, is not treating other people like dickheads and making them feel bad about themselves for reasons of discrimination. It's only when people get lectured like absolute children that equality gets ridiculed - by being patronising (i.e. that second statement) that it becomes a problem. I think it's good the club has a stance on this stuff, but talking down to people with copy and pasted words to tick boxes and not engaging properly with the fanbase sucks. All of that stuff are things that shouldn't be mocked (even the gender reassignment thing, funny as people seem to find it) but when people are treated like children and it's reduced down to "don't say this, don't do that" it's just cold and clearly the club just going through the motions so that if anything does happen they can go "don't blame us, we told them not to".
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Post by andygg on Jan 26, 2012 15:54:32 GMT
If all the fans took that statement literally, then LR would be a morgue. Blooming pc crap.
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Post by bowranger on Jan 26, 2012 15:59:05 GMT
If all the fans took that statement literally, then LR would be a morgue. Blooming pc crap. I think the way the statement is written is a bit of a joke too, but how is adhering to "Racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment is strictly forbidden" going to turn LR into a morgue. Like I said, I agree wholeheartedly that people don't need to be lectured in the way the club are doing - but all they are doing is just covering their backs. No-ones going to stop you for anything if we behave the way we did at the last Chelsea game - we had passion, hate, intimidation and a great atmosphere - and discrimination (other than the basic discrimination of them playing for the scum, which is not what the club are getting at, that's just football) never even came into it. Just re-affirming everything we already know in a poorly worded official way. Don't be a racist or homophobic idiot at the football - what's new there? We already know that. We probably don't need to be told that like little children by the club but at the same time it's not going to change the atmosphere one jot, so I wouldn't stress on it.
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Post by andygg on Jan 26, 2012 16:11:18 GMT
Just think of the run of the mill chants that we wont be allowed to sing:
"you dirty northern Bastads" "Oi Terry you cockney anker" "you useless old tosser" "Ole ole ole,Jose mourinho is gay"
and many many more greatest hits, which i cant think of.
Rivalry is a big thing in football, and you cant eliminate everything.
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Post by andygg on Jan 26, 2012 16:14:02 GMT
Lets just all sing : "Rangers Rangers ra ra ra" That should keep the PC t`ossers happy.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 26, 2012 16:18:36 GMT
I think one can rail at PC...and things can obviously be taken to extremes.
On the other hand, I think some of the stuff is offensive and at a minimum the club should make clear they don't condone it.
And I think of us would agree that certain things are beyond the pale...We're outraged at what Terry supposedly said to Ferdinand. Should be outraged if our fans said that to one of their players. (Or their fans to ours)
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Post by klr on Jan 26, 2012 16:28:49 GMT
Here's my chant for saturday, His name was Bob, but now its Barbara, "Gender Reassigment" its such a palava.
Wonder how many years they would throw me in the chokey for that evil hate fuelled ditty.
There's only one Florence Malouda
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Post by bowranger on Jan 26, 2012 20:17:49 GMT
You lot think everythings a bloody conspiracy. It's dead simple, the club are covering their backs by making a generic, vague statement. Like maude said, there's a massive difference between football-related "banter" (hate that word, but you know what I mean) and full on hate discrimination, or as maude said "beyond the pale". They aren't going to be persecuting anyone for any of the usual stuff, it's just pandering and line drawing. It's like "know your limits" with booze or that anti-swearing thing they put out over the PA last season. Doesn't mean they are going to lock you up for getting pissed or calling the ref a W*nker, but you probably will for getting pissed and ripping up your seat or screaming c**t every 5 seconds in the family area. Take it for what it is. Never seen so many people take a badly worded statement designed to discourage the worst cases of discrimination and the first thing that comes to mind is "wahhh thought police football is dead". For serious though, if anyone gets ejected and arrested for calling someone an "old tosser" I will buy you your next season ticket.
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Post by andygg on Jan 26, 2012 20:21:51 GMT
Right, i`m gonna call all the stewards "Tossers" just for that free season ticket.
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Post by bowranger on Jan 26, 2012 20:23:42 GMT
Right, i`m gonna call all the stewards "Tossers" just for that free season ticket. Hahaha that blatantly doesn't count I pity the steward who tries to make hundreds of us sit down on Saturday, just aint gonna happen
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2012 7:09:12 GMT
Taye Taiwo in gay chant rapwww.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/taye-taiwo-in-gay-chant-rap/? QPR have issued a warning to fans about offensive chanting this weekend — just hours after signing a player who was banned for singing a homophobic song last year. AC Milan left-back Taye Taiwo agreed to join the Hoops on loan for the rest of the season. QPR hope the Nigerian will receive international clearance in time to make his debut in the FA Cup showdown with rivals Chelsea on Saturday. Both clubs yesterday appealed for fans to watch what they chant during the fourth-round tie. The match takes place just four days before Blues skipper John Terry appears in court to answer a charge he allegedly racially abused QPR’s Anton Ferdinand during October’s fiery Prem clash — a claim JT denies. If Taiwo plays, he will have to behave better than he did after scoring the winner to help Marseille beat Montpellier 1-0 in the French League Cup final last April. Following the final whistle he grabbed a microphone and led fans in an expletive-ridden homophobic song about their bitter rivals Paris St Germain. French chiefs fined him £17,000 and banned Taiwo, 26, for one game. The FA Cup tie will be the first time the sides have met since the Terry-Ferdinand row broke. www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/taye-taiwo-in-gay-chant-rap/?
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2012 9:02:53 GMT
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Ferdinand spends £30,000 on personal security before west London grudge matchAnton Ferdinand has spent £30,000 on personal security before Queens Park Rangers' FA Cup clash with Chelsea, following the John Terry race row. Police will escort the defender to and from the stadium before the match at Loftus Road on Saturday. The 26-year-old has installed panic buttons at his house, extra cameras and increased CCTV coverage, all under police guidance after receiving a death threat in November. Chelsea captain Terry is alleged to have made a racist comment to Ferdinand during their two sides meeting on October 23. Terry, 31, is being prosecuted by the Crown Prosecution Service over these allegations and will appear at West London Magistrates on Wednesday. Saturday's match marks the first meeting between the sides since the October game and it remains to be seen whether Ferdinand will shake Terry's hand before kick-off. The two club's chairmen, Bruce Buck of Chelsea and Tony Fernandes of QPR, released a joint statement before the game, designed to reduce simmering tensions among supporters. The statement reads: 'We have discussed the issues surrounding this weekend's FA Cup fourth-round tie at Loftus Road and we are both in total agreement that abuse and discrimination has no place in football or society. Renewal: This will be the first time the sides have met since October 'Both clubs enjoy fantastic support. However, we would remind fans that while we want to hear their passion, it's a fact that hatred and abuse is not what being a fan of Chelsea or QPR is about. 'The clubs will work together with the police to ensure that anyone using discriminatory or inflammatory language is identified and that the strongest possible action is taken against them. 'We would urge fans witnessing any form of abuse to report it to a matchday steward or text confidentially on 07557435421. 'Let's make Saturday's match a celebration of football. 'A local derby is always a special occasion and this weekend's FA Cup tie is a unique opportunity to show the world that hatred has no place in our game, our clubs, or our communities.' Safe: Ferdinand has spent money on boosting his security Head: Terry has proved he has a knack for handling pressure In addition, QPR released their own statement entitled 'Your behaviour - a reminder', which read: 'Queens Park Rangers Football Club is committed to confronting and eliminating discrimination, whether by reason of race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, age, ethnic and national origin, disability, nationality, religion or belief or gender reassignment. 'The Club is proud of the atmosphere we have at Loftus Road and by working together we can stop any discrimination or behaviour that has no place in football. 'Loftus Road is governed by Ground Regulations and we would like to remind all visitors that by entering the ground they are agreeing to abide by these rules.' : www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2092555/Anton-Ferdinand-spends-30-000-personal-security-QPR-face-Chelsea.html#ixzz1keD4jv00
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Post by cpr on Jan 27, 2012 9:46:20 GMT
You lot think everythings a bloody conspiracy. It's dead simple, the club are covering their backs by making a generic, vague statement. Like maude said, there's a massive difference between football-related "banter" (hate that word, but you know what I mean) and full on hate discrimination, or as maude said "beyond the pale". They aren't going to be persecuting anyone for any of the usual stuff, it's just pandering and line drawing. It's like "know your limits" with booze or that anti-swearing thing they put out over the PA last season. Doesn't mean they are going to lock you up for getting pissed or calling the ref a W*nker, but you probably will for getting pissed and ripping up your seat or screaming c**t every 5 seconds in the family area. Take it for what it is. Never seen so many people take a badly worded statement designed to discourage the worst cases of discrimination and the first thing that comes to mind is "wahhh thought police football is dead". For serious though, if anyone gets ejected and arrested for calling someone an "old tosser" I will buy you your next season ticket. Sorry Bow but I find YOUR BEHAVIOUR - A REMINDERInsulting in itself. Regardless of the other pc, must do, cover arse waffle. We are not Chels*** fans.
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