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Post by fraserinbc on Oct 23, 2011 18:51:38 GMT
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Post by 21yearsnhadenuf on Oct 23, 2011 19:02:40 GMT
nothing in it.kill it at birth just enjoy the win.
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Post by eusebio13 on Oct 23, 2011 19:04:21 GMT
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Post by waterbuffalo on Oct 23, 2011 19:06:13 GMT
I agree . he was rattled, I especially enjoyed our 'fatty' Kenny standing up to him, that was brilliant. Paddy rules!
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Post by crumpyrs on Oct 23, 2011 19:19:30 GMT
He said blind cnut not black
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Post by cpr on Oct 23, 2011 20:01:48 GMT
He said blind cnut not black Yep agreed and I hate that scumbag slag.
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Post by Doudou on Oct 23, 2011 20:34:34 GMT
Don't think there is anything there. And the "evidence" is at best flimsy. Unless there is some real evidence, let's forget about this.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 23, 2011 20:40:30 GMT
Enjoying how even if JT did not say anything racist, the alternative is that he is calling the ref a "blind c*nt" and that is seen as forgettable from an England captain.
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Post by fraserinbc on Oct 23, 2011 21:07:19 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Oct 24, 2011 0:27:47 GMT
Yeah, like hes going to admit it!.
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Post by cpr on Oct 24, 2011 8:54:54 GMT
"I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term"
That's me wrong then, he did say it, even if it was an I never called you a ......
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Post by ozhoop on Oct 24, 2011 10:15:23 GMT
Breaking news - John Terry flatly denies racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, however he has not ruled out shagging his Mrs.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 24, 2011 12:46:26 GMT
QPR to meet with Ferdinand re this www.congletonguardian.co.uk/uk_national_sport/9322664.QPR_set_to_meet_with_Ferdinand/QPR set to meet with Ferdinand 1:26pm Monday 24th October 2011
© Press Association 2011 QPR will meet with Anton Ferdinand on Tuesday to discuss reports he was subject to an alleged racist slur by Chelsea captain John Terry, Press Association Sport understands. Videos circulated on the internet in the aftermath of Sunday's Barclays Premier League match at Loftus Road, with some claiming the footage shows Terry insulting the Rangers defender using racist language. Terry has categorically denied making such comments during the west London derby defeat but QPR officials will meet with Ferdinand to discuss whether the defender wants the incident to be investigated. The flashpoint occurred as Chelsea completely lost their discipline as two sending offs, seven yellow cards and a penalty handed QPR a first win over their arch-rivals for 16 years. Terry said in a statement released on Sunday night: "I've seen that there's a lot of comments on the internet with regards to some video footage of me in today's game. "I'm disappointed that people have leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand. I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term. "I would never say such a thing, and I'm saddened that people would think so. I have known Anton for a long time and spoke to him about it after the game and there was no problem between us. "I congratulated him on their win. He has not accused me of any wrongful remark. It was clear it was all a misunderstanding at the time. After the result, I am saddened to be dealing with these wrongful allegations. "I am the proud captain of one of the most internationally diverse teams in the Premier League and I absolutely believe that there is no place for racism in sport and indeed in any walk of life." The Football Association refused to comment on the matter when contacted by Press Association Sport.
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Post by haqpr1963 on Oct 24, 2011 13:01:16 GMT
So it is all down to context? ?? Love it....... Not........
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 24, 2011 13:03:03 GMT
To be fair to Terry, who like everyone else, I detest: I'd say, does he have a record re racist comments - or allegations. If not, then unlikely for it to suddenly come out after a decade+ of playing.
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Post by Hogan on Oct 24, 2011 13:37:02 GMT
Never ever heard anyone being called a fcuking blind cnut, never, it just doesn't go, don't sound right.
This the England captain we are talking about, have we no pride left? How can this sewer rat be allowed to captain the national side, is how we want to be seen by the world?
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 24, 2011 14:33:04 GMT
This being Kick Racism Out Week (Fortnight) Not related to Terry BBC Villa striker Emile Heskey urges players to report racism Page last updated at 12:23 GMT, Monday, 24 October 2011 By Leon Mann BBC Sports News Football winning its battle against racism - Heskey Aston Villa striker Emile Heskey has encouraged players to report racism "because there is no place for it". He believes players are more vocal in highlighting incidents now and told BBC Sport: "When a complaint is made, it's investigated and if found to be true then they're dealt with. "I don't think there is a case where people have thought it's not going to be dealt with 'so let's just get on with it'. "Maybe a while ago, but now, no." Heskey was speaking at a Kick It Out event at Villa Park before recent allegations of racism hit the headlines. Racism in football resurfaced after Manchester United's Patrice Evra alleged that Liverpool striker Luiz Suarez had racially abused him when the two sides met at Anfield - allegations denied by the Uruguayan. In a separate incident, England captain John Terry released a statement denying he had used racist language in Chelsea's 1-0 defeat by QPR at Loftus Road on Sunday. Leaving those aside, former England striker Heskey says he is convinced that the game is winning the battle against racism. Continue reading the main story You've got cameras everywhere. People don't stand for it. It's there and people see it but we want to get rid of it. Emile Heskey "Everyone's aware of it now," he said. "You've got cameras everywhere. People don't stand for it. It's there and people see it but we want to get rid of it - that's why we have the campaigns like Kick It Out and sit down with the children and we educate them." The 33-year-old also revealed he was planning to take his coaching badges with a view to moving into coaching and management. Asked what level he would aim for, he said: "I was always told to aim for the highest level. So I'd like to work at the highest level." Birmingham City's Chris Hughton and Charlton boss Chris Powell are the only non-white managers across the 92 Premier League and Football League clubs despite more than 25% of players being black. But Heskey feels that the lack of managers from ethnic minorities in football should not put black players off aiming for the top jobs. He said: "Chris Hughton's been doing a good job for a long, long time. I remember him coaching back from when I was playing at Leicester. "Chris Powell was at Leicester for a while and now he's managing - so it's about taking opportunities." He added: "I've read a few articles and seen what Incey [Paul Ince] and people like Andy Cole have said. It's interesting, but it should never be a case of 'I'm not going to do it' because of any issue. It should make you want to do it more. That's how I feel. "If I got to the stage where I decided I wanted to do that [management] then I'd be more determined to break down any barriers, if there are any barriers." newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/15430074.stm
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 24, 2011 19:08:30 GMT
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Post by fraserinbc on Oct 25, 2011 0:09:23 GMT
According to this report Ferdinand wants the FA to probe the allegation: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/exclusive-ferdinand-wants-fa-to-probe-terry-racism-claims-2375470.htmlNot sure what their source is, but hey, Warnock writes for them so they have connections. (Apologies if the title change is a little hyperbolic, but there is only a certain amount of characters, and Ferdinand is a long name) [Macmoish Copy/paste of article] Independent - Exclusive: Ferdinand wants FA to probe Terry racism claims By Glenn Moore, Football Editor The prospect of the England captain being accused of racism hangs over the game today with Anton Ferdinand expected to ask Queen's Park Rangers to petition the Football Association to investigate allegations that John Terry abused him during Chelsea's defeat at Loftus Road on Sunday. Ferdinand will make a final decision this morning after speaking to manager Neil Warnock, but The Independent understands that his inclination is to take the matter further. Ferdinand and Terry clashed during the match, and afterwards the England captain was accused by television viewers, via Twitter and the internet, of using foul and racist language towards Ferdinand. He put out a statement denying the accusation and stating he and Ferdinand had spoken after the match and "there was no problem between us". However, it clearly was not closed as far as Ferdinand was concerned. What did happen after the match was a tunnel bust-up between players from both sides, which is claimed to have involved Terry and QPR goalkeeper, Paddy Kenny, who was furious after the Chelsea captain allegedly insulted him on the pitch with a jibe of a very personal nature. The issue between Terry and Ferdinand is given added edge by the fact Terry this year regained the England captaincy from Anton's brother Rio Ferdinand. Terry had added in his statement: "I would never say such a thing, and I'm saddened that people would think so. I am the proud captain of one of the most internationally diverse teams in the Premier League and I absolutely believe that there is no place for racism in sport, indeed in any walk of life." Racism allegations are notoriously hard to prove, as Manchester United's Patrice Evra is finding out with regard to the allegation he made against Liverpool's Luis Suarez. In 2007, an FA charge against Emre, the Turkish midfielder then with Newcastle, was found not proven following allegations he had racially abused Everton players. It later emerged the verdict followed a discrepancy as to whether he used the word "negro" or "N-Word". This is the second time Terry has had to defend himself against an accusation of making racist remarks after it was claimed he had abused Tottenham's Ledley King in November 2006. Terry, who played junior football with King, denied the claim and no evidence was found to support it. Terry was one of seven Chelsea players booked and, like Ashley Cole, fortunate not to be dismissed along with Jose Bosingwa and Didier Drogba. The sixth yellow triggered an automatic £25,000 fine under FA regulations and there may be further punishment for Andre Villa-Boas for the FA is reviewing his post-match comments about referee Chris Foy. The Chelsea manager insisted his players did not lose their discipline but accused Foy of being "card-happy" and losing control of his emotions. "I have a problem with referees supplying discipline," said Villas-Boas. The manager added: "I really cannot understand the difference of the judgement of the referee. Not only the major decisions, but the fouls, the throw-ins. I cannot understand it. Apart from the fourth official, the other three were led by the emotions of the crowd and couldn't deal with a game like this." Whether Villas-Boas could impose a disciplinary crackdown on his team, even if he wanted to, is unclear. In an interview with Uefa Technician magazine he admits that, "because of my age and my lack of a professional playing background I could never be dictatorial. I therefore let the players have a certain amount of input into the decisions regarding the way we play and the way the team is run". Shaun Derry, the QPR midfielder, who had a running battle with Frank Lampard during the game, said: "These top, top players aren't used to losing and they aren't used to losing to teams of our stature. Perhaps it hurt them because they showed that even the best players can lose their heads. Most of the yellow cards were for Chelsea players and I felt we kept our heads. That was part of our gameplan." Derry admitted that the sight of their opponents complaining to the referee gave QPR heart. "We knew we were doing our job right. These big players have a knack of persuading refs to make different decisions but the ref was very strong. I thought he reffed it superbly." The fall-out from the match managed to overshadow the importance of the result to QPR as they enter a tough run of fixtures. "When you are coming up against Chelsea, Tottenham and Man City you are looking for bonus points," added Derry.
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Post by jayrigg on Oct 25, 2011 4:31:01 GMT
As i said in another thread,if John Terry is the best we can do for england captain,then we are in the mire. cheers, Jay.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 25, 2011 6:09:32 GMT
Kudos to The Guardian for actually giving the (alleged) quote (Our swear censor takes out the words!) The Guardian
John Terry to learn fate after alleged racial slur of Anton Ferdinand • Ferdinand to meet QPR manager, Neil Warnock, about claim • FA reviewing André Villas-Boas's post-match comments
Dominic FifieldAnton Ferdinand will decide on Tuesday whether to report the Chelsea captain John Terry to the Football Association over an alleged racist slur, after speaking face to face with the manager at Queens Park Rangers, Neil Warnock. Video footage circulated on the internet of an incident towards the end of QPR's 1-0 victory in which it has been suggested Terry calls the home defender a "F***ing black c**t" as he retreats into his own half of the pitch. Terry denies it and issued a statement on Sunday evening in which he claimed viewers had "leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand". Terry said he had been responding to accusations from the opposing centre-half that he had used racist language. "I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him," he said. "I responded aggressively, saying I never used that term." The key part of the footage, where the England captain said he shouted "Oi, Anton, I never said …", is obscured by Ashley Cole walking across the camera shot. The furore over the incident, and a fractious fixture which saw Chelsea reduced to nine men before the interval, is understood to have spilled into the tunnel after the final whistle, with angry altercations involving players from both sides. Terry and the home goalkeeper, Paddy Kenny, continued arguments that had sparked on the pitch, and other players are believed to have become involved in what is a narrow corridor outside the dressing rooms. Terry said he had spoken to Ferdinand once tempers had calmed "and there was no problem between us", saying the incident had been "a misunderstanding". Yet the notion that the pair departed amicably has been rejected by sources at QPR. The club have declined to comment publicly on the issue and Ferdinand – normally a keen twitterer – has maintained silence. The Rangers players were given the day off on Monday after their victory but will report back to their Harlington training centre on Tuesday morning. The club made preliminary contact with him by texton Monday, with the defender – brother of the former England captain, Rio Ferdinand – and one of his representatives to meet Warnock after training to discuss whether the club will ask the FA to investigate. It is understood the player and the club were minded to pursue the matter, though the 26-year-old asked to sleep on the matter before making a final decision. Should a complaint be made and if Terry is found guilty, any charge would inevitably have serious repercussions for the 30-year-old's position as England captain. The FA declined to comment but does technically have it within its power to investigate, even if no formal complaint is made. Terry was due to make a personal appearance at the opening of a pet shop in Surbiton on Monday but withdrew late from the event, leaving around 100 supporters disappointed. Meanwhile, the FA is reviewing the post-match conduct of the Chelsea manager, André Villas-Boas, after he confronted the referee, Chris Foy, in the tunnel. Onlookers described the Portuguese's language as "industrial", with Villas-Boas subsequently admitting he had been "very aggressive" with the referee as he complained at perceived inconsistencies in the official's display. The Chelsea manager claimed Foy had "lost it" and was "card happy" towards his team, comments that could prompt the FA to impose either a fine or touchline suspension. It remains to be seen whether Foy's match report includes mention either of the players' altercations in the tunnel or Villas-Boas's reaction after the final whistle. The referee sent off Didier Drogba, who apologised to his team-mates in the changing room post-match, for a two-footed lunge at Adel Taarabt, as well as José Bosingwa for a professional foul on Shaun Wright-Phillips, and booked a further seven visiting players. "I thought he reffed it superbly," said the QPR midfielder Shaun Derry. "These big players have a knack of persuading refs to make different decisions but the ref was very strong. The sendings off were the right decisions, and most of the yellow cards were for Chelsea players, and I felt we kept our heads. "We wanted to unnerve them and put them under pressure in the right areas, and that plan came off. What do you do? Do you stand off these players and let them dictate, or do you get amongst them and mix it with them? I don't think we were vicious in any way or over-aggressive in anything we did. But these top players aren't used to losing to teams of our stature. Perhaps it hurt them because they showed that even the best players can lose their heads." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/24/john-terry-anton-ferdinand-chelsea-qpr
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 25, 2011 7:50:59 GMT
Supposedly Police investigating John Terry racism allegations By Tom Williams, Reporter www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/news/police-investigating-terry-racism-allegations_6448.htmlFiled: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 08:31 UK Allegations that Chelsea captain John Terry racially abused Queens Park Rangers player Anton Ferdinand during Sunday's 1-0 match are being investigated by police after a complaint from a member of the public. Footage of Terry appearing to mutter a racial slur towards Ferdinand circulated on the internet after the match, but the England skipper has categorically denied making racist remarks. A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "We can confirm that police have been notified of an incident on Sunday 23 October involving alleged racial abuse. "This is currently being assessed by officers from Hammersmith and Fulham." QPR officials will meet with Ferdinand today to discuss the matter and whether to report it to the FA.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 25, 2011 8:25:44 GMT
BBC
Police assess claim John Terry racially abused Anton Ferdinand25 October 2011 Allegations that Chelsea's John Terry racially abused QPR defender Anton Ferdinand are being looked at by police after a public complaint. The Chelsea captain has categorically denied making a racist slur during Sunday's game at Loftus Road. A police spokesman said: "We can confirm that police have been notified of an incident on Sunday, 23 October involving alleged racial abuse. "This is currently being assessed by officers from Hammersmith and Fulham." Videos circulated on the internet in the aftermath of the game, with some claiming the footage shows Terry, 30, insulting the QPR player using racist language. BBC Sport understands QPR are to discuss the matter further with Ferdinand. Continue reading the main story [Anton Ferdinand] has not accused me of any wrongful remark. It was clear it was all a misunderstanding at the time John Terry The alleged incident happened in a bad-tempered game in which Chelsea were reduced to nine men in the first half, with Terry involved in several angry confrontations with referee Chris Foy. Terry said in a statement: "I've seen that there's a lot of comments on the internet with regards to some video footage of me during the game. "I am disappointed that people have leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand. "I would never say such a thing - and I'm saddened that people would think so." Terry added that Ferdinand, 26, had made no complaint and said the two remained on good terms. "I have known Anton for a long time and spoke to him about it after the game and there was no problem between us," the England captain added. "I congratulated him on their win. He has not accused me of any wrongful remark. It was clear it was all a misunderstanding at the time. "After the result today, I am saddened to be dealing with these wrongful allegations." news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/15424799.stm
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Post by cpr on Oct 25, 2011 12:01:51 GMT
SSN just said they will be talking live with Neil Warnock shortly.
That means in about another hour then! ;D
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 25, 2011 12:40:36 GMT
"Case closed" - Say Chelsea! As if they determine what is or is not true. BBC Page last updated at 12:38 GMT, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:38 UK Sport FeedsRSS feed FOOTBALL Terry race row is over - Villas-Boas Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has given his backing to John Terry over allegations he racially abused QPR defender Anton Ferdinand and says the matter is now over. newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm
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Post by cpr on Oct 25, 2011 13:08:50 GMT
I watched him, don't tihnk he dismissed it like that. He got right up my nose though! Mind you, his is big enough and red enough to give fergie a run! Noses run in his family.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 25, 2011 13:13:15 GMT
AVB said that as soon as John Terry denied it the case should have been closed!! ARE YOU FECKIN' SERIOUS!!!!! what a joke of a thing to say.
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Post by haqpr1963 on Oct 25, 2011 13:15:36 GMT
AVB said that as soon as John Terry denied it the case should have been closed!! ARE YOU FECKIN' SERIOUS!!!!! what a joke of a thing to say. Chelsea fans are now saying that they actually won.... AVB agrees...... Sorted....... scum........
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Post by haqpr1963 on Oct 25, 2011 13:25:22 GMT
How bizarre is this whole situation?
I wonder what really happened?
Are we really supposed to believe that it was as follows.
AF : "Oi, JT. Did you really just call me an FBC?"
JT : "Oi, Anton, I never said you FBC."
AC : "Sorry JT, I think I just walked through your close up, mate."
I am sorry but even if accused of it I would never use those words. Surely 99.9% of us would have said "Oi, Anton I never said that."
Why repeat the supposed racial comment?
Taken out of context? The whole thing stinks...........
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 25, 2011 13:32:42 GMT
Just seems strange. If he said it, surely would have said it on other times. (Does he have that record?)
And of course if he didnt say it, however much dont like him, wouldnt want him accused of something he didnt do (when there's so much slime over what he has done and said)
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