Beale

[rickyqpr]

the72.co.uk/2023/10/15/ex-qpr-boss-fancies-shock-return-amid-ainsworth-struggles/
Could you imagine.........

[surreychad]

Oct 15, 2023 8:26:29 GMT rickyqpr said:

the72.co.uk/2023/10/15/ex-qpr-boss-fancies-shock-return-amid-ainsworth-struggles/
Could you imagine.........

now that would be interesting, I wonder how many would welcome him back? 

[Macmoish]

No way
Who is "Nixon"?

[Macmoish]

Meanwhile Beale's successor at Glasgow Rangers

www.rangers.co.uk/Article/rangers-appoint-philippe-clement-as-mens-team-manager/7y16ETLxUsoShVEIPCYr8O

[powerpump]

Brendon Rodgers went back to Celtic with his tail between his legs....so why not Beale...

Bottom line=

We need stay in our current division and the question is who is likely to achieve that:
i) GA or
ii) Beale or
iii) Eustace or
iv) fill in a name here

[robindubois]

Oct 15, 2023 9:03:06 GMT surreychad said:

Oct 15, 2023 8:26:29 GMT rickyqpr said:

the72.co.uk/2023/10/15/ex-qpr-boss-fancies-shock-return-amid-ainsworth-struggles/
Could you imagine.........

now that would be interesting, I wonder how many would welcome him back? 

I posted shortly after his departure from GR's that he should come back to us and finish the job he started. He has something to prove and getting us out of the mess created by GA and co. would go a long way to his redemption. He needs to rebuild his reputation and I doubt he will get the chance to do that with a good English club so give us a go or go abroad are the most likely chances imo.

I did also comment though that I wonder how many fans would welcome him back - I think probably more than we might expect as despite all the loyalty stuff many fans agree that given the choice between the two R's he had to give Glasgow a go.  

I also think that doubters may soon change their minds if he restores the attractive football we were playing and moves us up the table.

With LF gone and the Board seemingly having given their blessing and best wishes I see little inside the club to stop him coming back and we would have made a nice profit from losing him for a few months - could we afford to bring back our former back room staff would be an interesting point.

Another question would be how many players would want him back. Again more than we might expect. The senior players with no experience of him should be open to it and he certainly got more out of the Chair and Willock than anyone since. A contact to the end of season with options to extend would work - plus a big buy out clause!

[robindubois]

Oct 15, 2023 10:32:17 GMT powerpump said:

Brendon Rodgers went back to Celtic with his tail between his legs....so why not Beale...

Bottom line=

We need stay in our current division and the question is who is likely to achieve that:
i) GA or
ii) Beale or
iii) Eustace or
iv) fill in a name here

ii)

[nomar]

I think most fans would have him back in a heartbeat.

Especially given our current managerial situation.

I don’t think most of our players would mind either, to be honest.

Beale with his tail between his legs and desperate to prove himself would be very interesting. Damn sight better than the slop currently being served up too.

[hitmanrangers]

Beale is not the answer. Lacks the experience to get us out of this mess. Yes football might be easier on the eye but he is massively overrated by us fans. Got us top of league but that was a purple patch for players and bar Sheff Utd away win, we beat teams that ended up struggling. Even Reading were top at one point last year. Simply not a good enough manager for what we need and would much prefer Eustuce over Beale if Ainsworth is let go - needs minimum 4 points from next 3 games to survive beyond October I think.

[robindubois]

Oct 15, 2023 18:33:32 GMT hitmanrangers said:

Beale is not the answer. Lacks the experience to get us out of this mess. Yes football might be easier on the eye but he is massively overrated by us fans. Got us top of league but that was a purple patch for players and bar Sheff Utd away win, we beat teams that ended up struggling. Even Reading were top at one point last year. Simply not a good enough manager for what we need and would much prefer Eustuce over Beale if Ainsworth is let go - needs minimum 4 points from next 3 games to survive beyond October I think.

4 points from the next 3 games is not very likely - and then we will still only be heading for 38 points this season if the trend continues.  So it is a case of when Ainsworth is let go rather than if he is let go.  

[Macmoish]

John Eustace official Bye Birmingham statement

[nomar]

Oct 15, 2023 18:33:32 GMT hitmanrangers said:

Beale is not the answer. Lacks the experience to get us out of this mess. Yes football might be easier on the eye but he is massively overrated by us fans. Got us top of league but that was a purple patch for players and bar Sheff Utd away win, we beat teams that ended up struggling. Even Reading were top at one point last year. Simply not a good enough manager for what we need and would much prefer Eustuce over Beale if Ainsworth is let go - needs minimum 4 points from next 3 games to survive beyond October I think.

I agree that it's a matter of when not if GA gets sacked and Eustace should be his replacement.

They should do it now to give us a chance but the clowns in charge will wait until we're further behind and in a deeper hole before they do anything remotely sensible about the situation.

[Marc]

Oct 16, 2023 11:59:14 GMT nomar said:

Oct 15, 2023 18:33:32 GMT hitmanrangers said:

Beale is not the answer. Lacks the experience to get us out of this mess. Yes football might be easier on the eye but he is massively overrated by us fans. Got us top of league but that was a purple patch for players and bar Sheff Utd away win, we beat teams that ended up struggling. Even Reading were top at one point last year. Simply not a good enough manager for what we need and would much prefer Eustuce over Beale if Ainsworth is let go - needs minimum 4 points from next 3 games to survive beyond October I think.

I agree that it's a matter of when not if GA gets sacked and Eustace should be his replacement.

They should do it now to give us a chance but the clowns in charge will wait until we're further behind and in a deeper hole before they do anything remotely sensible about the situation.

By which time Eustace will be managing elsewhere and they'll find some other former Rs playing legend to try and appease the fans and the cycle will continue until one day, Bosingwa turns up!

[robindubois]

I will give credit to GA for one thing. He said our draw at Brum was the turning point in our season. Certainly was - since then we have played 3 lost 3 conceded 8 goals and scored one - an injury time consolation at home to Coventry.

Meanwhile we will drift along to the next international break, Eustace will be gone elsewhere and Beale will the only one with nothing to lose willing to take over.

[rickyqpr]

I can't really see Beale coming back to QPR.
Although we picked up compensation, the owners must have been pretty upset about him talking to Stoke and Wolves, then denying that he had. I think it comes down to trust and he burnt that bridge.
I also wonder if we only remember topping the league - we had some flukey wins in that run, luck shone on us, and that luck had already departed with his final 5 games.
At Rangers, his policy of hiring players who worship him hardly worked - although few write about the terrible run of injuries he had there. Is it a coincidence that we too suffered injuries under his stewardship?
He will find another club, but he has a way to go to restore his reputation and needs to stay and achieve something.
As for Eustace.... he would get my support, although he may not be keen to return after how he left. He also resided over the terrible run that saw both him and Warburton leave. He has had a chequered career at Brum. he has had his struggles but has spent a lot of Bellingham money this term. Crazy to sack him, he too will find another Championship club, probably in the next window.
But the recruitment work starts now. Ainsworth will get the next three games and will probably go after we get a shock result against Leicester, making it look unfair. But that is football management in a nutshell.

[Marc]

Oct 17, 2023 8:06:35 GMT rickyqpr said:

I can't really see Beale coming back to QPR.
Although we picked up compensation, the owners must have been pretty upset about him talking to Stoke and Wolves, then denying that he had. I think it comes down to trust and he burnt that bridge.
I also wonder if we only remember topping the league - we had some flukey wins in that run, luck shone on us, and that luck had already departed with his final 5 games.
At Rangers, his policy of hiring players who worship him hardly worked - although few write about the terrible run of injuries he had there. Is it a coincidence that we too suffered injuries under his stewardship?
He will find another club, but he has a way to go to restore his reputation and needs to stay and achieve something.
As for Eustace.... he would get my support, although he may not be keen to return after how he left. He also resided over the terrible run that saw both him and Warburton leave. He has had a chequered career at Brum. he has had his struggles but has spent a lot of Bellingham money this term. Crazy to sack him, he too will find another Championship club, probably in the next window.
But the recruitment work starts now. Ainsworth will get the next three games and will probably go after we get a shock result against Leicester, making it look unfair. But that is football management in a nutshell.

The only thing that could negate any burnt bridges (Beale and Eustace) could possibly be the departure of Ferdinand.

[rickyqpr]

Oct 17, 2023 8:30:21 GMT Marc said:

Oct 17, 2023 8:06:35 GMT rickyqpr said:

I can't really see Beale coming back to QPR.

The only thing that could negate any burnt bridges (Beale and Eustace) could possibly be the departure of Ferdinand.

I think that as with almost everything QPR now, it come down to Lee Hoos. The owners just finance it and stay away (and probably want to sell), Amit treats it like a hobby, Ferdinand was never very vocal, so we do not know how much of it is personal to him, I could not even name our Finance Director. All of the above roles are being covered by Lee Hoos  - and often not well.
Presumably if we let Ainsworth go, it will be Hoos recommendation - as will his successor. For a man who always professed to not get involved in the football matters, he is now centre stage. 
I always find it curious that even FFP communications come from Hoos and not the Finance Director.

Sailing so close to the FFP breadline therefore was presumably his decision as well.

As I said on another thread, he and Ferdinand saved us from oblivion and then sanctioned a return trip. 
I suppose the key questions with Beale are 'Do you think he would be a success if he returned, and how long would the fans give him?
We can hardly afford to pay off another one unless Eze moves to Man City.

[kerrins]

Perhaps the rumour about a USA Takeover of the club is true. Who Knows? Certainly a new broom will sweep clean.

In the meantime if Gareth Ainsworth can dig out enough points to keep our relegation heads above the bottom 3 water he will hang on. This at present is looking increasingly unlikely. If and when he departs and who would replace him is anyone's guess but in my view you would be throwing money down the grid if you went round to the Bookmakers to back a return of Beale.

[rangersman]

I would take Eustace tomorrow, Beale is just a rat with NO morals. We was up the top when he was here thats true, but it was through luck and it was short lived. He is not experienced enough and a chancer to boot. His past record is not impressive IMO and would do the club no good. Just my opinion but i have met many chancers and they are all the same.

[robindubois]

I very much doubt we would get Eustace even if we want and can afford him, and Beale is probably a non starter. More likely we will keep drifting down under Ainsworth at least until January through total indecision by whoever is "running" the club.

We supposedly appointed headhunters to find a DOF - not a word since so don't hold your breath waiting and if we really are going to appoint would we change manager before the new DOF is on board?

Meanwhile it is slightly amusing how many people now think Eustace is the next best thing to sliced bread . How short memories are that under Warburton and Eustace we went on the start of our rapid decline from play-off contenders to relegation battlers in half a season. Many of the people now calling for Eustace to return were previously calling for his head along with Warburton's. Since that bad run started the only break was the short glory period under Beale and you don't get to the top of the Championship and play the sort of football we were playing then from a pure slice of luck. (Whooosh!)

Eustace has done a reasonable job at Brum to get them near the play-offs but only with the benefit of buying basically a complete new experienced team with the windfall money from a sale.

He would face a totally different situation if he came back to us so why do we think he would do any better in the second half of this season than he did in the second half of the season that led to his departure - with probably a worse squad now and even less money.

People need to have a look at Beales CV before saying he has no experience. As for morals - sadly they disappeared from football years ago with Sky money and agents ruling the game. Anyone willing to become our manager is taking a massive gamble on a low salary so we are likely to end up with someone prepared to take a chance to earn himself a good reputation.

All pointless discussion at the moment unless something changes - Ainsworth rules ok

[robindubois]

I suppose Rowett will be added to the social media list of likely replacements for GA . Not a bad one given our situation - if GA goes.

As usual the managerial roundabout will heat up between now and Christmas - will we join it? People like Rowett and Eustace will get picked up fairly quickly - unless they want a break.

[rickyqpr]

Kevin Muscat is the Favorite to success Rowett.
Eustace second favorite.

[Lonegunmen]

We do NOT want Kevin Muscat !! Sharkey will agree with me. Voted the dirtiest player in several countries.

[robindubois]

Hoos gave Ainsworth the dreaded "he has the full backing of the board" comment a couple of days ago - that should do it!

Ainsworth says he does not hear or read or listen to any comments about himself or his position as he is positive and knows he will get it right. Between the lines - I don't care what anyone else thinks. Shocking statement - however good you are it is always good to listen to others opinions. He should join this board.

Been in bed sick as a rat all week so I hope we do not lose tomorrow - not sure I can take that the way I feel.

Bet Eustace goes to Millwall ..... unless they go for Beale but I do not think even Beale would want Millwall. Muscat sounds like the ideal match for Millwall though - all thugs.

[nomar]

Oct 20, 2023 9:09:51 GMT robindubois said:

Hoos gave Ainsworth the dreaded "he has the full backing of the board" comment a couple of days ago - that should do it!

Ainsworth says he does not hear or read or listen to any comments about himself or his position as he is positive and knows he will get it right. Between the lines - I don't care what anyone else thinks. Shocking statement - however good you are it is always good to listen to others opinions. He should join this board.

Been in bed sick as a rat all week so I hope we do not lose tomorrow - not sure I can take that the way I feel.

Bet Eustace goes to Millwall ..... unless they go for Beale but I do not think even Beale would want Millwall. Muscat sounds like the ideal match for Millwall though - all thugs.

Sadly, with the incompetent nitwits on our board he probably does have their full backing.

[londonranger]

Don't shoot the messenger, but methinks Neil Warnock may be available

[robindubois]

Oct 21, 2023 17:56:21 GMT nomar said:

Oct 20, 2023 9:09:51 GMT robindubois said:

Hoos gave Ainsworth the dreaded "he has the full backing of the board" comment a couple of days ago - that should do it!

Ainsworth says he does not hear or read or listen to any comments about himself or his position as he is positive and knows he will get it right. Between the lines - I don't care what anyone else thinks. Shocking statement - however good you are it is always good to listen to others opinions. He should join this board.

Been in bed sick as a rat all week so I hope we do not lose tomorrow - not sure I can take that the way I feel.

Bet Eustace goes to Millwall ..... unless they go for Beale but I do not think even Beale would want Millwall. Muscat sounds like the ideal match for Millwall though - all thugs.

Sadly, with the incompetent nitwits on our board he probably does have their full backing.

But who above Ainsworth has any real idea about football. We are Amit's toy, with a bunch of financiers who for some unknown reason are losing a fortune with us. Hoos is the closest but he knows the admin side not playing. So no-one will make a decision - paralysis by analysis or just simply not knowing what they are doing.

GA is out of his depth, the fans know it, the players know it, every team we play knows it. I'm sure even GA knows it by now but will never admit it and the board will not admit they made another giant mistake that, if they do not act quickly, could lead to the club being out of business in the next couple of years.  Maybe it will take Leicester to stuff 10 goals past us next week to wake someone up but even with a loss like that GA will see the positives for a good season. 

[powerpump]

"GA is out of his depth, the fans know it, the players know it, every team we play knows it. I'm sure even GA knows it by now but will never admit it and the board will not admit they made another giant mistake that, if they do not act quickly, could lead to the club being out of business in the next couple of years. Maybe it will take Leicester to stuff 10 goals past us next week to wake someone up but even with a loss like that GA will see the positives for a good season. "

Yes the board is as clueless as GA.

[robindubois]

As they say my granny could score from there

images.webapi.gc.qprfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1400x1400/bda54f20-7031-11ee-94f6-cb7e2871871e.jpg

[Lonegunmen]

Oct 22, 2023 10:23:21 GMT robindubois said:

As they say my granny could score from there

images.webapi.gc.qprfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1400x1400/bda54f20-7031-11ee-94f6-cb7e2871871e.jpg

Oh FFS, he missed that?