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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2023 13:00:45 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 30, 2023 13:02:12 GMT
Surely, surely, surely has to be time for a home win!
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Post by sharky on Sept 30, 2023 14:09:22 GMT
Bloody hell, a substitution in the 2nd minute. Not a good omen!
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 30, 2023 14:52:46 GMT
HT 0-0
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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2023 15:22:04 GMT
0-2
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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2023 15:26:45 GMT
62" Armstrong on for Willock
63" Armstromg booked
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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2023 15:29:46 GMT
0-3 now!
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Post by sharky on Sept 30, 2023 15:30:53 GMT
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Post by rangersman on Sept 30, 2023 15:41:44 GMT
Pmsl................but we dont need a striker, and we will surprise people, etc etc etc, priceless comedy act. Taxi for GA, go get Warburton we gonna need him further down the line.
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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2023 15:52:22 GMT
1-3
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 30, 2023 16:07:21 GMT
Really thought law of averages if nothing else would give us a win today.
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Post by londonranger on Sept 30, 2023 16:32:21 GMT
QPR now in relegation zone.
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Post by rico on Sept 30, 2023 16:58:42 GMT
Despite the performances being better of late it's results that count and now we have dropped into the relegation zone and with leeds and Blackburn coming up it must be a matter of time before a change is made everyone loves GA but he doesn't have the experience at this level I genuinely think the squad is good enough to survive but the management isn't
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Post by kilburnhoop on Sept 30, 2023 18:58:07 GMT
Outfought, outhought and outplayed. We can't blame the ref or bad luck this time. Home record is a disgrace. One win in 8 for Cov until they play us. Why are we playing 3 at the back, it's so obvious we are light in the middle. In the bottom 3 and that's where will stay if the manager stays.
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Post by rickyqpr on Sept 30, 2023 19:22:53 GMT
Took us two and a half hours to get there, I had to pay £6.60 to park and I said, it had better be a good result after all this effort!
Problem is, it is all so predictable at Loftus Road.
Nothing between the two teams, chap next to me said that who ever scores first will win this.
That is partly because when we go behind, we never look like we are going to recover. We ended up well beaten, but another terrible day for the officials.
It is said that they are made to watch the previous 4 games of each team - why?
I am not sure that I understand the game after some of the decisions today - the fans were very irate and yet again, the ref got no help from the lino on the Stanley Bowles stand side.
He was unable to keep level with the play, was looking straight at the penalty shout, saw several 'afters' that went unpunished etc. The officials lost control..
Not blaming the officials for the defeat (they were very poor) our inability to counter aversity is what cost us yet again.
Bad day.
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Post by nomar on Sept 30, 2023 19:59:09 GMT
Table doesn’t lie.
The home form statistic is disgraceful beyond words. Every single person associated with this club should be utterly embarrassed and ashamed at such a woeful record. I doubt you’d find a worse home record in any level of football, professional or amateur, in this country.
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Post by robindubois on Sept 30, 2023 21:45:34 GMT
We have a squad of players with the exception of a goal scorer well capable to comfortably survive mid-table.
So it is obvious where the problem is.
Home form is a joke and complaints about refs and decisions have worn thin..
Time for a change before the next international break but who would take it on and have the ability to turn things round
I’ll shoot anyone who says Warnock
Rumours than Cannon watched and now wants to play unpaid in Portugal
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 1, 2023 8:47:48 GMT
Some thoughts:
• Both sides very cautious in the first half. Not sure our formation is still working. The three at the back hybrid to a five at the back when the opposition have the ball means we are pretty short in midfield.
• We do not have a goal poacher. There were some decent balls into the box, the sort that a fit Charlie Austin used to feed off, but Dykes is usually in the wrong place. He wins a lot of balls in the air and flicks on to empty spaces. He will never be a prolific scorer, but two wonder saves in successive matches.
• The ref had turned his back on the penalty shout, but the lino was watching. The keeper and McFadzean then started on Armstrong. Armstrong gets nothing, play restarts, Armstrong wipes out McFadzean. And you just knew that would happen…
• Smyth went flying through the air several times, apparently no foul, so was it simulation? He retaliates and gets booked.
• Coventry changed things at half time, we did not appear to change or respond. We started to be overrun in midfield.
• We give away far too many senseless free kicks – Kakay and Dozzell the chief culprits. Kakay also gets badly dragged out of position when we are chasing the game. If he is following direction then he is less culpable, but his trips forward often lead to him losing the ball. For me, he scored an own goal yesterday, sliding in and deflecting the ball the opposite way to Begovic’s dive.
• Begovic confuses me. Makes some good saves, but a little like Dieng last season, I expect the keeper to do better with the goals we concede. He pushes the ball out to the feet of the opposition….and his kicking is woeful. We play the ball out from the back, then pass it back to him to hoof – and we lose possession.
• All our play goes through Chair and the opposition know that. When in doubt give it to Chair. Set piece, give it to Chair. He is our dangerman, but it makes us predictable and one dimensional. Stop Chair, stop QPR. One very late challenge on him yesterday did not even warrant a talking to.
• But it is the reaction at home to going behind. Yesterday, Coventry just went deep and waited for the transitions, and then we are all over the place. Away from home, even going behind, the opposition keep coming at us, and we can hit on the transition. Swansea got an unfair goal and just sat there for 90 minutes, and that is how long it takes to break down.
• Can’t win at home, then relegation is a certainty.
• Would changing the manager help? He may not have been the correct choice, but we should stick with him for now. He is getting a lot right, but we are still a long way short of ‘good enough’.
• It is not rocket science, but it is bloody frustrating.
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Post by sharky on Oct 2, 2023 4:36:25 GMT
Pmsl................but we dont need a striker, and we will surprise people, etc etc etc, priceless comedy act. Taxi for GA, go get Warburton we gonna need him further down the line. What about Beale? He's available now! Heaven forbid! |
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Post by robindubois on Oct 2, 2023 7:32:03 GMT
Pmsl................but we dont need a striker, and we will surprise people, etc etc etc, priceless comedy act. Taxi for GA, go get Warburton we gonna need him further down the line. What about Beale? He's available now! Heaven forbid! After rangersman spending a whole season calling for "a taxi for Breadman" he now wants him back !.  Personally I still think we should never have let Warburton go - he wanted experience for the team but had a bad run while others wanted him to focus on youth. Now we have GA with a team held together as much as it can be by the experience of Cook Fox Colback and Bergovic. So we are back close to where we were with Warburton in terms of squad but worse off in the league and results and a lesser manager in charge. Be careful what you wish for. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 2, 2023 7:53:33 GMT
Wishing we still had Warburton is a bit like wishing we still had Warnock.
Both left because they had come to the end of the road.
Warnock cannot be easy to work with as an owner, a media hero who tells tales out of school. But he is always very short term.
Warburton built something that was very promising. But he is a very stubborn man. We will probably never know what really went on between the owners and Mark, because Warburton has never told his side of the story. What we have been told is not only did he not rate the youngsters, but he created a huge divide between the academy and the first team, players and coaches. We know he went on a long losing run, he fell out big time with the owners, he was out long before he left, and he has not managed a club since.
But Eustace showed his loyalty to Warburton and he paid the price for that as well. He was the natural successor, and we could have avoided the whole Beale debacle.
But I guess the owners are the only ones keeping us alive, and they have a right to say how their money is being spent.
But I think Warburton had become untenable and had to go.
For me Ainsworth needs longer anyway. I want him to succeed.
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Post by kerrins on Oct 2, 2023 8:04:20 GMT
Our one and only game plan strategy of Dig In Battle and Contain obviously did not work out against Coventry on Saturday
However the team have two massive problems which have been ever present all season and do not look like going away anytime soon and could lead to disaster ahead.
(1) We do not get much of the ball(Pass and Move? What's that? Not in the lexicon.)
(2) We do not score many goals. An understatement if ever there was one.
Tough times on the horizon.
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Post by robindubois on Oct 2, 2023 10:23:20 GMT
Wishing we still had Warburton is a bit like wishing we still had Warnock. Both left because they had come to the end of the road. Warnock cannot be easy to work with as an owner, a media hero who tells tales out of school. But he is always very short term. Warburton built something that was very promising. But he is a very stubborn man. We will probably never know what really went on between the owners and Mark, because Warburton has never told his side of the story. What we have been told is not only did he not rate the youngsters, but he created a huge divide between the academy and the first team, players and coaches. We know he went on a long losing run, he fell out big time with the owners, he was out long before he left, and he has not managed a club since. But Eustace showed his loyalty to Warburton and he paid the price for that as well. He was the natural successor, and we could have avoided the whole Beale debacle. But I guess the owners are the only ones keeping us alive, and they have a right to say how their money is being spent. But I think Warburton had become untenable and had to go. For me Ainsworth needs longer anyway. I want him to succeed. I did say in an earlier post that I would shoot anyone who called for Warnock to come back so I definitely do not wish we still had him. I also have not said I wish we still had Warburton - maybe did not state it clearly enough but what meant was that I think we should not have changed when we did and could have given him more time as you wish for Ainsworth. Much water has passed under the bridge since Warburton left and we find ourselves in a worse position with no end in sight. As for where we are, I want the team to succeed - whether that is under Ainsworth or someone else is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. As Kerrins says we have 2 major problems (I would say more than 2) and I believe those problems are caused , in Kerrins words, by "Our one and only game plan strategy of Dig In Battle and Contain obviously did not work out against Coventry on Saturday. Not only did it not work out against Coventry but with with the exception of Burnley and Stoke last season it has not worked repeatedly. So if our strategy does not work I ask the rhetorical questions who is responsible for the strategy (and tactics) and how do we change the strategy which is in the hands of someone who on the face of things is as stubborn as Warburton?. He has declared a change in strategy after the first few games and we now are on Plan B, which like Plan A is fixed and not varied according to opposition or other considerations. By all means give Ainsworth more time although he has been here since February and only managed one home win 1-0 against Watford on 11th March since then. The next rhetorical question is how long do we give him - wait until March and maybe a year without a home win and an impossible job for anyone to recover. Anyway I expect we will win our next 2 games and start the surprise that we will give to the Championship that Ainsworth announced was coming after the Brum draw. I'll retire from the subject now and keep my views on the topic to myself. |
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