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Post by Macmoish on May 14, 2023 9:47:31 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on May 14, 2023 11:16:37 GMT
He stops short of saying that team spirit was non-existent, but says players were playing for themselves.
I would not be surprised if he goes back for some of his Wycombe lads to start to build the new culture and have a few who see him as a decent gaffer.
Wycombe are said to be trying to sign a right sided central defender from Cambridge (Lloyd Jones) probably to replace Chris Forino-Joseph who is just entering the last year of his contract.
He has the mobility that Dickie and Dunne lack, would not be too expensive (200-300k?). Maybe he could also talk Lewis Wing into joining us for free etc.
But I think it will be a revolving door especially in the final week.
It is not Ainsworth's way to criticise his players, but he comes close.
Critchley did say what he thought of them.
Having 5 loans is not good for culture, especially if you have to select them or otherwise compensate the parent club.
Have we learnt the right lessons?
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Post by robindubois on May 14, 2023 11:48:53 GMT
He stops short of saying that team spirit was non-existent, but says players were playing for themselves. I would not be surprised if he goes back for some of his Wycombe lads to start to build the new culture and have a few who see him as a decent gaffer. Wycombe are said to be trying to sign a right sided central defender from Cambridge (Lloyd Jones) probably to replace Chris Forino-Joseph who is just entering the last year of his contract. He has the mobility that Dickie and Dunne lack, would not be too expensive (200-300k?). Maybe he could also talk Lewis Wing into joining us for free etc. But I think it will be a revolving door especially in the final week. It is not Ainsworth's way to criticise his players, but he comes close. Critchley did say what he thought of them. Having 5 loans is not good for culture, especially if you have to select them or otherwise compensate the parent club. Have we learnt the right lessons? Cutting out the loans is a must imo and get players who want and have to perform as they are our players. The name that keeps being overlooked is Clarke-Salter. If we are going to playing a back 4, Dunne Dickie Clarke-Salter plus maybe Gubbins should cover the CB positions if we want a reduced squad. Paul is ok but we need cover - maybe using Kakay anywhere across the back four so our focus may be on a first choice right back if we keep Drewe as cover. Getting Wing would be a sign of how high/low we are aiming - all depends on who else leaves and joins the midfield. Wing has been around but only last season and a few years ago at Boro has really contributed. I have not watched the video yet but on the face of it I do not get the "playing for themselves" line. If they were doing that you would expect some effort and decent performances to secure a good deal elsewhere or maybe it means they played the way they wanted instead of sticking to team instructions. Either way it needs sorting out and a strong leader on and off the pitch to help. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 14, 2023 20:46:23 GMT
Ainsworth speaks - Part II |
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Post by nomar on May 15, 2023 10:51:55 GMT
He stops short of saying that team spirit was non-existent, but says players were playing for themselves. I would not be surprised if he goes back for some of his Wycombe lads to start to build the new culture and have a few who see him as a decent gaffer. Wycombe are said to be trying to sign a right sided central defender from Cambridge (Lloyd Jones) probably to replace Chris Forino-Joseph who is just entering the last year of his contract. He has the mobility that Dickie and Dunne lack, would not be too expensive (200-300k?). Maybe he could also talk Lewis Wing into joining us for free etc. But I think it will be a revolving door especially in the final week. It is not Ainsworth's way to criticise his players, but he comes close. Critchley did say what he thought of them. Having 5 loans is not good for culture, especially if you have to select them or otherwise compensate the parent club. Have we learnt the right lessons? Critchley had this lot sussed straight away. My guess is that he knew they were going to take us down and that they genuinely didn't care about that either. So, he deliberately made his position with the players untenable so that he could get sacked and pick up his compensation. I get the feeling he genuinely disliked them as much as most of us did and couldn't wait to be rid of the wasters. |
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Post by robindubois on May 15, 2023 11:26:18 GMT
He stops short of saying that team spirit was non-existent, but says players were playing for themselves. I would not be surprised if he goes back for some of his Wycombe lads to start to build the new culture and have a few who see him as a decent gaffer. Wycombe are said to be trying to sign a right sided central defender from Cambridge (Lloyd Jones) probably to replace Chris Forino-Joseph who is just entering the last year of his contract. He has the mobility that Dickie and Dunne lack, would not be too expensive (200-300k?). Maybe he could also talk Lewis Wing into joining us for free etc. But I think it will be a revolving door especially in the final week. It is not Ainsworth's way to criticise his players, but he comes close. Critchley did say what he thought of them. Having 5 loans is not good for culture, especially if you have to select them or otherwise compensate the parent club. Have we learnt the right lessons? Critchley had this lot sussed straight away. My guess is that he knew they were going to take us down and that they genuinely didn't care about that either. So, he deliberately made his position with the players untenable so that he could get sacked and pick up his compensation. I get the feeling he genuinely disliked them as much as most of us did and couldn't wait to be rid of the wasters. Interesting theory but getting the sack after 11 games or whatever it was is not normally good to have on your CV. However in football these days it is nothing unusual and has little impact on them finding another job. Keeping us up would have been better for his record. I understood that Critchley and Beale were quite good friends and as Beale had already lost the squad I am surprised that he did not tell Critchley to stay clear of the job - or maybe Beale thought that under the right manager the players would respond. Interesting reading the Southhampton captain talking about how the rot set in leading to their relegation , blaming both his own players for lack of effort etc. and bad behind the scenes management and bad transfer windows over the last 2 seasons. You could substitute QPR for Southampton in his comments and would be not far from the truth. |
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Post by rickyqpr on May 15, 2023 12:38:03 GMT
Not just Southampton, but the Leicester fans and message boards are full of similar assertions. Many of the Leicester players are out of contract at the end of the season.
It seems what happened at QPR was not unique.
Increasingly, squads are self-destructing by players acting in self-interest to the detriment of the team, long before the season is over.
Player power has never been stronger in the top two flights.
It is now the norm for players to run down their contracts.
Clubs try to cash in with 12 months to go, but the value has already started to diminish by then.
Clubs also try to exercise one-year options, but if the player has not signed a new contract by then, they are hardly likely to be motivated by the extension. So, it becomes a mechanism to extract value by the clubs rather than a commitment to the player.
I wonder how much actual money will be spent in the next Championship window?
We think that players like Chair, Willock, Dieng and Dykes make be sold, but outside of the Prem is there any money available?
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Post by robindubois on May 15, 2023 13:57:59 GMT
Not just Southampton, but the Leicester fans and message boards are full of similar assertions. Many of the Leicester players are out of contract at the end of the season. It seems what happened at QPR was not unique. Increasingly, squads are self-destructing by players acting in self-interest to the detriment of the team, long before the season is over. Player power has never been stronger in the top two flights. It is now the norm for players to run down their contracts. Clubs try to cash in with 12 months to go, but the value has already started to diminish by then. Clubs also try to exercise one-year options, but if the player has not signed a new contract by then, they are hardly likely to be motivated by the extension. So, it becomes a mechanism to extract value by the clubs rather than a commitment to the player. I wonder how much actual money will be spent in the next Championship window? We think that players like Chair, Willock, Dieng and Dykes make be sold, but outside of the Prem is there any money available? All very true and the only money available outside the PL is likely confined to the clubs with parachute payments but even then they have to start to trim their costs in case they do not bounce straight back. As for player power I think the yin yang principle (or ying yang depending on how you feel) will soon kick in. How many players like Laird or Roberts are going to break into a PL starting team, how many will just keep being loaned out until their contracts are done and then are unemployed. The best many can hope for is together a better salary than they can with most Championship clubs and the number of out of contract players increases with every window while the PL teams stack their squads with multi million pound overseas players. Meanwhile in all the other divisions the cash has been sucked out of the game by overpaying players even while clubs are told to live within their means. But their means have been cut off with a lack of transfer fees as players walk away to higher clubs when contract expire. So maybe the Ainsworth approach of signing committed players in his own image is the future route and I will live to eat my words about his style. Unless we get some decent cash from selling half the squad I doubt we will be paying any transfer fees now that we have signed Taylor Richards. Spanish's point about Eze sell on fees would be helpful though. Said it before but Sky and Money have killed the game as we know it but also transfer windows and fixed squads. If a player knows he is safe and can take it easy clubs have little control but if clubs could sack a player and replace him in their squad without waiting for a transfer window to try to change things attitudes might change. |
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Post by rickyqpr on May 17, 2023 7:54:56 GMT
It is a strange supply and demand curve for players now. Decent lower league players who are out of contract are much in demand and can command higher wages / signing on fees. Prem teams rarely buy from the Championship and so the cash is hardly cascading down the leagues. If players are out of contract in 12 months' time, club are faced with extracting what they can or risk receiving nothing. I believe that the sums changing hands on lower league transfers are much lower than Sky would have us believe. If we believe our own players are valued much lower than before, then the same is true for other clubs. The classic for me was Berreton Diaz at Blackburn. He was said to be worth £17 - £25m just two windows ago. West Ham were sniffing around and Sky enjoyed reporting that they were prepared to pay up to £15m - probably clickbait, but still. Blackburn have allowed him to run his contract down and become a free agent this Summer - I wonder where he will end up? How on earth could Blackburn afford to do that? They bet the farm and then missed out on the play-offs. Crazy times! Bereton-Diaz - still valued at £16m www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ben-brereton-diaz/profil/spieler/426192 |
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Post by robindubois on May 17, 2023 11:25:42 GMT
It is a strange supply and demand curve for players now. Decent lower league players who are out of contract are much in demand and can command higher wages / signing on fees. Prem teams rarely buy from the Championship and so the cash is hardly cascading down the leagues. If players are out of contract in 12 months' time, club are faced with extracting what they can or risk receiving nothing. I believe that the sums changing hands on lower league transfers are much lower than Sky would have us believe. If we believe our own players are valued much lower than before, then the same is true for other clubs. The classic for me was Berreton Diaz at Blackburn. He was said to be worth £17 - £25m just two windows ago. West Ham were sniffing around and Sky enjoyed reporting that they were prepared to pay up to £15m - probably clickbait, but still. Blackburn have allowed him to run his contract down and become a free agent this Summer - I wonder where he will end up? How on earth could Blackburn afford to do that? They bet the farm and then missed out on the play-offs. Crazy times! Bereton-Diaz - still valued at £16m www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ben-brereton-diaz/profil/spieler/426192Zaha has run down his Palace contract although they hope to get him to sign a new one. Will he walk and if he does what chances Palace would sell Eze - if he runs his contract down it will be goodbye to our sell on fees I think. |
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