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Post by Macmoish on May 11, 2023 14:51:07 GMT
www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/retained-list-100523/
LUKE Amos is one of six QPR players who will leave the club when his contract expires at the end of June.
Leon Balogun, Olamide Shodipo, Conor Masterson, Charlie Owens and Ody Alfa will also be departing Loftus Road.As part of his recovery from injury, centre-back Balogun will continue to be based at QPR during pre-season. Chris Martin, Jordan Archer, Elijah Dixon-Bonner, Aaron Drewe and Stephen Duke-McKenna remain in discussions with the club regarding their futures.Taylor Richards’ loan has automatically become a permanent, three-year deal with Rangers remaining in the Championship next season - while the club have also exercised the options to extend the contracts of Chris Willock, Joe Gubbins and Charlie Kelman to the summer of 2024.Amos initially joined the R’s on loan from Tottenham in 2019 before making a permanent switch ahead of the 2020/21 campaign. He went on to make 95 appearances, scoring eight goals. Balogun came to Loftus Road last summer after departing Glasgow Rangers. He made 16 appearances, scoring once. Shodipo was brought through the youth system at Loftus Road before making his first-team debut on the opening day of the 2016/17 campaign. In total, he made 44 appearances in the blue and white hoops. Masterson came to the club after leaving Liverpool in 2019. He made a total of 21 appearances for the R’s, scoring once. Owens joined QPR from Tottenham in 2017 but a series of injuries curtailed his progress, limiting him to just three first-team appearances. Alfa came through the youth setup and spent much of his time out on loan, making one appearance for the first team. Finally, Tim Iroegbunam, Ethan Laird, Jamal Lowe and Tyler Roberts have returned to their parent clubs following the end of their respective loan spells.We wish all our departing players well for the future and thank them for their efforts with QPR.
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Post by nomar on May 11, 2023 15:01:49 GMT
And good riddance to ye all!
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Post by blatantfowl on May 11, 2023 16:03:40 GMT
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at Taylor Richard going permanent. For a start I didn’t believe there was any such clause and even then I’d have thought it would be subject to a minimum no of appearances and a fitness test or something.
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Post by nomar on May 11, 2023 18:08:32 GMT
What ‘efforts’ would those be, exactly? |
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Post by robindubois on May 12, 2023 8:31:06 GMT
What ‘efforts’ would those be, exactly? Bit unfair to some of those players especially those who were farmed out on loan and not given a chance - because they were not first team material but the club is not just about the first team players. Anyway re other points the Taylor Richards deal always had the loan to permanent clause - only way out was if we were relegated. Probably the only way Brighton would let him go but a bad choice for us because of his injuries. If they continue next season we have bought a dud and will be difficult to offload him but if he stays fit all reports I have seen from informed coaches is that he has the talent and ability to replace Willock or Chair. Surprised we did not try to keep Masterson - or maybe we did and he feels better suited playing in a lower league rather than being a squad player with us. Also keeps our wage bill down. Then there are the contract extensions. Will Kelman and Gubbins get to play for us, or are we extending so we can try to pick up a fee however small for them. Willock is a no brainer - no reason to just let him walk away for free now. If someone wants to take a chance on his injuries they can pay for him, or if he gets fit and Ainsworth can get him motivated he would be an asset but then likely to be sold in January or let his contract run down. Of those still under negotiation Archer - not sure how I would have him in the team ahead of Murphy (if Seny goes) so a sensible idea for the bench. How a player can spend 3 or more seasons just sitting on the bench (and being injured) is beyond me - money for nothing but we need someone to do it. Martin is obviously in Ainsworths good books for his experience and backing and feels he can get another season out of him. My view is he may be a good man to have around the squad but otherwise lack of pace and probably not able to play 90 minutes would rule him out as a regular but maybe a seat on the bench if the squad is reduced. Drewe one for the future? but how often have we heard that about others like Nico. We need to recruit for that position I think. Dixon-Bonner and Duke-Mckenna both likely to be discussing will they get a chance to play as well as money. Will not be surprised to see both go if they feel they will get game time elsewhere but in theory they have some ability and also be useful in our squad if we cannot find better free agents. On paper if we can keep Seny, Dickie, Dunn, Clarke-Salter and Paul we have the base of a good defence if played in the right way and if Ainsworth can sort their heads out. But then some do not match his style of play but we cannot afford to change that lot. Field is obvious to keep. Dozzell could go depending on how small a squad we want and who else leaves. Armstrong - everyone likes him but I can see a bit of a JET situation with him. We probably wasted a season of his time as Beale at least wanted to keep him close to the squad. Maybe a seasons hard graft in a lower league to lose some weight, get fit and find the shooting boots he has shown for the B team would have been better but hindsight is a wonderful thing. In summary no surprises in the announcement, obvious all the loans would leave, no mention of Johansen or any others still under contract being made available. Either we want to keep them or are waiting for the vultures to gather and hang out for the highest bidder. All clear as mud and likely to stay that way until the end of the window. |
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Post by harr on May 12, 2023 8:45:55 GMT
It has to be said though there was little effort.
They caved in beyond all imagination.
Since the mid 1970s when I started following Rangers , I have never known a group of players to capitulate so badly, it was astounding.
There’s not many in that group that actually put a shift in week in week out and most seemed to be engrossed in their own self pity than playing as a group or team to win a football match.
Thankfully the 8 points in the last 6 matches kept us up.
We have to be clear though we avoided relegation really by one point if you take the Reading deduction away.
One things is crystal clear with this group of players there are no real leaders in the squad.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 12, 2023 9:41:47 GMT
It has to be said though there was little effort. They caved in beyond all imagination. Since the mid 1970s when I started following Rangers , I have never known a group of players to capitulate so badly, it was astounding. There’s not many in that group that actually put a shift in week in week out and most seemed to be engrossed in their own self pity than playing as a group or team to win a football match. Thankfully the 8 points in the last 6 matches kept us up. We have to be clear though we avoided relegation really by one point if you take the Reading deduction away. One things is crystal clear with this group of players there are no real leaders in the squad. Whilst I agree with you, I do think the problem goes deeper than 'little effort'. If you take Monday's game, the team started well. We were in the ascendancy in a tight game of decent football - as you would expect from a dead rubber. Adomah's error from a player of vast experience was astonishingly naive. But not through little effort. But what happened next was typical. The body language changed, players started to perform as individuals, the cohesion, the passing gone. The ball was no longer 'looked after' but just given away. That is where you need your leaders on the pitch - and as you say, we do not have them. If Martin is the example, then God help us. We struggled through to half time and then the second half saw us back in the ascendancy. The coaches had fired them back up. A few corners, a strong response from the big crowd and no shortage of effort - they had been lifted. Then a poorly defended set piece (again) and immediately the effort, desire cohesion etc. gone again. Some strange substitutions saw individuals coming on playing for themselves. But we have players who go missing when it gets tough. We have players like Chair who try to do it all themselves rather than pass when we go behind. We have players like Dykes who make a lot of runs, only to be ignored, so they stop running. We have Dozzell who allows the game to pass him by when we go behind - hence his Casper nickname. Johansen can not high press to win the ball back - he is playing a different game to the others hoping to pick the ball up from Dieng, who now hoofs it forward. We have players like Lowe, Chair and Willock who stop closing and chasing back when it gets tough. So players like Field end up doing the work of several and get clobbered and/or booked and then have to be careful. It is a collective failure on so many fronts. Our better performances are always when we score first. The team showed no idea how to chase a game. I believe that is what Ainsworth meant when he said they were fragile. |
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Post by harr on May 12, 2023 11:59:57 GMT
To me Ricky the season has had many of the same things that keep occurring.
Every Manager this season that manages this squad says it’s silly mistakes from individuals that cost us.
We switch off from corners and set pieces, it’s like every Manager is saying the same thing to the players.
The most shocking fact is that every game we generally had as much possession as other teams, had generally in main more scoring or attacking opportunities.
Yet opposing teams would have 5 chances and score 2-3 goals from them.
As our defending was always fragile and our forwards were needing at least 10 - 15 chances or even more to score one goal or even get a shot on target.
The finishing all season has been abysmal at times it was non existent and some of the chances were straight forward.
We lacked someone to bury the ball in the opponents net.
Only when we changed our tactics for the last 4-5 games of the season , when we soaked up the pressure and then countered, did we have any success since Beale left.
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Post by robindubois on May 12, 2023 13:55:44 GMT
It has to be said though there was little effort. They caved in beyond all imagination. Since the mid 1970s when I started following Rangers , I have never known a group of players to capitulate so badly, it was astounding. There’s not many in that group that actually put a shift in week in week out and most seemed to be engrossed in their own self pity than playing as a group or team to win a football match. Thankfully the 8 points in the last 6 matches kept us up. We have to be clear though we avoided relegation really by one point if you take the Reading deduction away. One things is crystal clear with this group of players there are no real leaders in the squad. Agree with most of that but do not go along with the only stayed up by one point bit. Yes "if" Reading had not been deducted points but then "if" we had scored a couple of more goals or "if' we had not let in some injury time draw/losing goals it would different. The world's what it is , Reading rightly punished for their actions end of story. The absence of real leaders is the key point - Ainsworth likes Albert and Johansen and Martin for their off field leadership and experience but no-one on the pitch showing much apart from maybe Field. We need a heel snapping strong midfielder to take command and lead on the pitch. The strange thing having read some other club boards whose teams have been through similar to us, the comments are just the same. Blame directed in 2 directions - owners and management or uncommitted under performing players with no effort. That seems a more common line with those who have taken loans from the PL. Maybe it is they get paid too much, enjoy the London nightlife and can't be bothered with a club they know they will leave in a few months - and maybe they mislead or demotivate the permanent players. What happened to Dickie and Dunn - they were never perfect but what happened that turned them into half the players they were at the start of season The end of season tactics got us the points we needed but also the other bad side showed up in other games. I hate to think how we will look if we stick to playing with 30% possession and hope our "fast" forwards (if we have any) can pick off some goals from quick long ball break aways. Maybe the plan is play Armstrong and Kelman together - good luck and less goals scored than this season. It just feels that we have gone from a club hoping or aiming for the play-offs in the last 2 seasons to accepting that we are consigned to constant mid table to relegation battles. Aim high and if you fall short you are still not in a bad place. Aim low and fail and take the consequences. Ambition vision and leadership has to come from the top and I am not hearing much or any of those three from anyone including our head coach. If he just wants a team in his own image with no ambition to achieve how will players be motivated. |
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 12, 2023 20:25:12 GMT
I thought Shodipo was going to spend his entire career employed by this club but loaned out every season.
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Post by stylecouncillor on May 13, 2023 21:03:53 GMT
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at Taylor Richard going permanent. For a start I didn’t believe there was any such clause and even then I’d have thought it would be subject to a minimum no of appearances and a fitness test or something. I have to agree if this was part of his loan deal whoever added the clause should be fired... Is that Impey still ? Thought he was loans manager or something.... How the hell can you have a clause where you sign a player however sh*t he is if you stay in the league your in. I'm assuming if we had got promoted he scored 60 goals.... we wouldn't of been able to sign him.... Great loan deal. |
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Post by robindubois on May 14, 2023 8:39:28 GMT
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at Taylor Richard going permanent. For a start I didn’t believe there was any such clause and even then I’d have thought it would be subject to a minimum no of appearances and a fitness test or something. I have to agree if this was part of his loan deal whoever added the clause should be fired... Is that Impey still ? Thought he was loans manager or something.... How the hell can you have a clause where you sign a player however sh*t he is if you stay in the league your in. I'm assuming if we had got promoted he scored 60 goals.... we wouldn't have been able to sign him.... Great loan deal. Reading different bits of reporting it appears the idea here was that we got him on loan for the season without a loan fee but presumably paying all or part of his wages. We would then buy him at the end of season (if not relegated) so we were getting a player Beale liked but pushed back the transfer fee for a year. The fee we just paid is unconfirmed but said to be between 200k and 400k I doubt we got him for free but who knows if knocked them down. Maybe the fee was based on number of appearances and while it sounds a lot on our budget for an unfit player, these days it is peanuts if he plays next season. All reports say he has the talent and ability but his shocking injury problems mean he has only featured in 20 odd games in the last 2 seasons and that is the bit I do not understand. Presumably we gave him a medical before signing the loan but then he was still recovering and close to fitness. Obviously that recovery went wrong more than once The weird thing is what caused his injury in the first place. He was on loan at Birmingham the season before he joined us and actually picked up the start of his injury problem during his medical at Birmingham. He was on a piece of test equipment and slipped off in a freak accident and picked up the injury - totally unbelievable. Why did Brum go ahead with his loan? maybe because they were partly responsible for his injury and maybe because they thought he would recover quickly. I was going to say our deal with Brighton was the sort of thing only QPR would do - but Brum did almost exactly the same with his loan - just we should have learnt from their mistake and made his end of season signing conditional on fitness as well. Funny old game. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 14, 2023 8:40:54 GMT
Maybe we can sell him (once he proves his fitness!) Guess question is he an Ainsworth type player
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Post by robindubois on May 14, 2023 8:43:33 GMT
Maybe we can sell him (once he proves his fitness!) Guess question is he an Ainsworth type player Good point - have not seen him play much but reports of his style suggest he would not fit into Ainsworths long ball game - more a skilful ball player who would get by-passed in midfield in Ainsworths model but apparently he does get stuck in (when fit) |
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Post by rickyqpr on May 14, 2023 11:23:03 GMT
I see the Richards recruitment as purely a cashflow decision.
We pushed the purchase into the new financial year to aid FFP.
Ther downside of that was that he counted as a loan for matchday squads.
I do not blame the club for that, Beale boasted about what a great deal it was to recruit him for such a low price.
But his problems this season have it seems been many fold.
Mental fragility and depression, but then who really knows.
His close friend died, in grim circumstances.
Not sure how often he has been available to play, but it seems that he was behind Chair, Willock and Lowe in the pecking order for his favoured number 10 position.
Had we received an offer for either Chair or Willock or both, his season may have been very different.
I think both will be gone next term, so perhaps we will see.
I am prepared to give him a chance.
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