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Post by Macmoish on Mar 20, 2023 8:36:28 GMT
It would have seemed impossible...Only need a win or two - or a win and a couple of draws - or even a series of draws to stay up.
And yet... 4 points from our last 10 games...
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Post by surreychad on Mar 20, 2023 9:13:18 GMT
I dont think so but not overly confident in staying up either
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Post by rickyqpr on Mar 20, 2023 10:41:50 GMT
I think if you were there on Saturday, or unfortunate enough to travel to Blackpool, then the answer is probably yes, we are going down.
Teams know how to beat us, and it is not rocket science.
Eustace said that they knew that they could score on the transition and so was so pleased with their goal.
For our part, Albert at wing back (why?) missed a tackle he should have won, then some ran back like headless chickens, some never bothered, and Kakay was in front of his man and let him run past him to score.
We had two target players who won many headers with no-one in behind, and managed two shots on goal.
Lowe's performance was awful, having left Drewe doubled up at Blackpool, he offered nothing by way of tackling back - Armstrong coming on put him to shame.
Perhaps the loanees who started had to start (financially).
Then there are many tales about the fitness of our missing first eleven.
Are they all injured or just not interested?
We have never been told if Paal is even injured - just not available.
Balogun has been nearly back for 4 months. Roberts was net quite right, then back to Leeds.
Chair was promised for Brum but then apparently not.
We all feel sorry for Ainsworth, but other squads are fighting for their lives, whereas numerous QPR players will not be here next season - and it shows.
The only hope I have is that on Saturday we had no lucky bounce or fluke, perhaps we will get one someday.
But we are not losing through bad luck, we are currently a shambles and if it does not change, we are down.
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Post by harr on Mar 20, 2023 11:39:42 GMT
For me simple we lose at Wigan we are going down.
Already lost to all the fodder Rotherham,Blackpool and Birmingham which makes us the fodder now.
Two wins from 8 is looking a long way off with our fixtures now , our best chance of points was the two teams we just played.
We could be almost in the bottom three with 4-5 games to go the way we are playing.
Clubs a shambles and nothing will change until these people go.
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Post by kerrins on Mar 20, 2023 13:22:13 GMT
No. Its never over till the fat lady sings..... Wigan Huddersfield and Blackpool will save us from relegation
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Post by Marc on Mar 20, 2023 13:48:29 GMT
I'm sort of on the fence with this. On the one hand, we look like we're in freefall, but on the other, we now have the break which is a chance to regroup and probably for one or two players to return from injury. Also, we could repeat our form from the Watford game so you never know.
I also read somewhere that Reading's 6 point deduction may be imminent which would put them 3 points below us.
Too many variable to say one way or another with any certainty
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Post by londonranger on Mar 20, 2023 13:50:34 GMT
I have no control about this. I hope we stay up. But if we go down well well go down. Ainsworthe has time with the players to practice more maybe the break will be a stroke of luck. I started withe Rs when they were in the 3rd division South. A long time ago. So the third tier doesn't scare me. We won the 3rd division south and went up. Maybe if we go down we can come right back. Prayer can help too of you believe in that.
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Post by londonranger on Mar 20, 2023 21:06:24 GMT
Gareth says we only need two wins to stay up.Blames Stroud for not awarding a penalty. Winning two games imo won't be easy.
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Post by harr on Mar 20, 2023 21:41:28 GMT
Gareth says we only need two wins to stay up.Blames Stroud for not awarding a penalty. Winning two games imo won't be easy. Only need two wins to stay up but unable to beat Hudds,Blackpool ,Rotherham , Birmingham. This says it all Blackpool took 6 points us. Birmingham took 6 points off us. Hudderfield took 4 points off Rotherham took 4 points off us dire. |
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Post by sharky on Mar 21, 2023 13:02:51 GMT
I do
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Post by nomar on Mar 21, 2023 14:05:23 GMT
Felt we are going down for months now.
The only thing I can see saving us is points deductions for the other clubs below us, because at this rate they will all catch us before the season ends.
They are actually good enough to stay up but the issue is the lack of any commitment or effort to actually try and get a result.
In some ways they deserve relegating just for that alone, because the other teams below us are there because of lack of ability, not for the want of not trying!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 22, 2023 9:45:23 GMT
If we go down, it will be a hard swallow.
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Post by nomar on Mar 23, 2023 7:03:20 GMT
If we go down, it will be a hard swallow. Not for me. Truth be told, this lot deserve being kicked right down to the non leagues for the gross disrespect and lack of effort they have put into this. They are a disgrace to their profession and robbing a living off the club while mugging off the fans. |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 23, 2023 8:43:09 GMT
If we go down, it will be a hard swallow. Not for me. Truth be told, this lot deserve being kicked right down to the non leagues for the gross disrespect and lack of effort they have put into this. They are a disgrace to their profession and robbing a living off the club while mugging off the fans. Trouble is, all the crap players responsible for getting us in this position will jump ship and leave the club in even bigger crap. |
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Post by bristolpete on Mar 23, 2023 10:51:06 GMT
Before the Watford game 'Yes'. After the Watford game 'No' but now I am back to 'yes' again. It is difficult to see where enough points are coming from to get to safety. I am not confident that, even if all the injured players return, that will be enough. Some, such as Willock. were hardly in a rich vein before they got injured. But some of you on here know how much of a pessimist I am and perhaps will not be surprised by my views.
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Post by harr on Mar 23, 2023 15:57:53 GMT
All we have to do is beat Wigan, then I would say with 7 games left , at least 6-7-8 points still in front we would be in a good position. But knowing our lot they will roll over like they did to Blackpool Rotherham and Birmingham. At this point there’s only one team we won’t finish under and that’s Wigan, the worst we will finish is 23rd. So at least we will be able to say we didn’t got from top to bottom  |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 27, 2023 18:17:46 GMT
From leading the charge several months ago, we are now 41, yes, 41 points behind the team now leading the charge. You can blame injuries, you can blame the three managers we have had this season, or you can blame those that take to the field and steal a living. Who pays the price? The fans. Certainly not our DOF, he's Captain Scarlet in disguise.
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 31, 2023 6:29:58 GMT
Seen the latest Ainsworth interview videos....Need results not talk...So hopefully Saturday will be the day. Obviously anything can always happen. But his recent post-match comments havent matched what those who
were at the games were saying.
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Post by robindubois on Mar 31, 2023 9:30:42 GMT
I leave the board alone for a while and look what what happens. But watching from afar does give a clearer perspective sometimes so here goes with some odd thoughts.
Top of the table to relegation candidates - why? To be honest no clear idea but probably a combination of factors. The decline started with Bealegate and the Wolves link - but we should have got over that by now.
Injuries - excuses I hear people say but when I think my first choice defence is Laird Balogan Clarke Salter and Paal, plus the absence of others like Willock Chair we have been playing close to our B team for quite a while - but then they should still have been doing better. Some may be back tomorrow - will they be match fit and sharp enough will they break down after 30 minutes will they start on the bench will they make a difference - we will see.
6-1 at Blackpool was a joke - but most damaging is the effect on our goal difference which could decide who goes down. Until then we had basically a one point edge that has now gone.
Ainsworth made a very short unexplained comment that many passed over when he trawled out a long list of things he had to contend with when he arrived. Thrown in the middle was "and all sorts of other things going on behind the scenes" - There in may be the problem but the players should be professional enough to distance themselves from that.
I have been seeing posts analysing the results of those below us and how there must be 3 teams worse than us. Firstly there are more than 3 teams worse than our squad but getting points on the board is what counts. The club players and supporters should not be looking over our shoulders hoping other teams will not catch us. Our fate is in our own hands and we need to think about getting points and not depending on others. There are some juicy 6 pointers coming up not including us so clubs below us will pick up points and a 6 point gap soon disappears.
Other comments about sacking everybody and starting again - sorry with a handful of games what will that achieve as the players will be the same. Plus who knows what has really gone on behind the scenes , could have Hoos or LF or the board changed results, are they to blame.
Bottom line is I have no idea how we could have gone from table toppers playing good football to a pub team chasing their tails so suddenly. Something is not right somewhere but will we ever know. A last word for some of our "change the manager" campaigners going back years - beware what you wish for. Warburton must be having a real laugh.
So tomorrow is Wigan. A team I never fancy our chances against and usually if not 0-0 one goal will win it. Let's hope we get the first goal and at least survive 3 minutes at the start without conceding.
After that 3 home games out of 4 and the chance to get the points we need. No easy games in there but then no game is easy in this division. Easter will decide our fate not Wigan.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2023 10:05:30 GMT
No doubt we will allow Keane and Caulker to score today. We love a reunion.
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Post by harr on Apr 1, 2023 16:06:09 GMT
Yes from me, we could even be down way before game 46 we really are that bad.
This team would struggle to stay up in League One, I have no doubt about that.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2023 17:46:43 GMT
I think the question needs to be rephrased.
Who doesn’t think we’re going down?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 2, 2023 0:08:40 GMT
We're going down quicker than a $2 hooker - as the Aussies would say.
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Post by powerpump on Apr 2, 2023 6:46:57 GMT
I have no idea if we going down. On current form it seems more likely than not.
In effect will be back in the third division and some of us can remember that even though more than 50 years or is it 60 years ago.
At least in the lower division we are going to we will have a manager who knows it, and maybe knows how to get promoted from it.
But easier to be relegated than promoted.
That said how much the current manager is responsible for our situation again I cannot say, I put more blame or all blame on the previous manager, the players and the owners etc.
Recently the excuse has been injuries blah blah blah.
There are other sides in the relegation battle who are now better managed and want safety more than our players do.
We were top of the table a while back so something critically wrong.
When and if we go down maybe the current bosses including billionaires may like to consider selling the club to others who know what they're doing or who care.
I do not post this to get into an argument just my opinion and I go back to the 1960's when first started following:
I guess we need to begin looking at the map to see were the likes of Fleetwood ,Shrewsbury and Port Vale et al are located.
Have a nice day!
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 2, 2023 11:29:23 GMT
We have had 4 managers in the last 12 months - all with good reputations.
A consistent criticism of the CEO, DofF and owners is that they have allowed managers to acquire who they have wanted - I think that is a fair criticism.
Only Beale has achieved anything with the squad - and it had started to fall apart for him.
There is a lot of fault and blame to be shared out.
For me, I think that half of our first team either do not care, or do not want to play / be there. Our squad players are not good enough to step up.
We backed Beale with his incomings and now we are stuck with players whose prime objective is to avoid injury so as to be ready for their new home next season.
We lack pace, creativity and desire.
It will be a big rebuilding job.
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Post by londonranger on Apr 2, 2023 11:55:48 GMT
I predicted a 1-0 loss to Wigan. Why? We cant score goals. If you don't score goals you cant win. A scoreless draw gets you a point. We cant even do that. We deserve to go down, and we will. Why? Our time ran out
for being a Championship team. Simple as that.
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Post by nomar on Apr 4, 2023 7:30:06 GMT
I predicted a 1-0 loss to Wigan. Why? We cant score goals. If you don't score goals you cant win. A scoreless draw gets you a point. We cant even do that. We deserve to go down, and we will. Why? Our time ran out for being a Championship team. Simple as that. Every single word of this. |
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Post by rangersman on Apr 6, 2023 16:52:27 GMT
Do not deserve to stay up, GA plays the kind of football a blind man can figure out in 5 minutes. The players are disrespectful to the fans, they do not turn up. Most players today are more worried about their hairstyle and nails than playing real football. Its a complete shambles, and as soon as i heard GA was taking over i believe i may have said so on here. You reap what you sew, the WHOLE board and squad need replacing. Once again the joke of this league, hey perhaps this league is jinxed!!!!
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2023 17:12:35 GMT
QPR were 40-1 to go down 4-5 matches ago, bet a few wish they had put a tenner on it just for fun.
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Post by nomar on Apr 6, 2023 19:23:18 GMT
QPR were 40-1 to go down 4-5 matches ago, bet a few wish they had put a tenner on it just for fun. Critchley probably did as soon he knew he was getting the job. Sussed this lot out straight away. Clever man. |
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