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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2023 10:48:26 GMT
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Post by rangersman on Jan 8, 2023 11:52:22 GMT
Got to say i am pleased with the reaction from NC, he now needs to sort this out. Dykes, Shodipo, Niko all need to be shipped out. Sell Dykes to MB at rangers and use the money on a real striker or 2. The rest of them need a good kick up the arse and told to shape up or ship out. He needs to tell Ferdinand etc that they need to help him or also ship out. Ferdinand is not cut out for his role at QPR, he really overrates himself, yes that's just my opinion, and I'm cool with that.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2023 12:25:26 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 8, 2023 12:53:25 GMT
He needs to tell Ferdinand etc that they need to help him or also ship out. Ferdinand is not cut out for his role at QPR, he really overrates himself, yes that's just my opinion, and I'm cool with that. Interesting choice of criticism. I have seen Ferdinand attacked online for many aspects of his role (overpaid, learning on the job, unqualified etc) - but not that he overrates himself. What is it that he has said that leads you to that conclusion?
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Post by rangersman on Jan 8, 2023 13:55:20 GMT
He needs to tell Ferdinand etc that they need to help him or also ship out. Ferdinand is not cut out for his role at QPR, he really overrates himself, yes that's just my opinion, and I'm cool with that. Interesting choice of criticism. I have seen Ferdinand attacked online for many aspects of his role (overpaid, learning on the job, unqualified etc) - but not that he overrates himself. What is it that he has said that leads you to that conclusion? Well he constantly claims he wants to do whats best for the club, yet fails to address problems we have had for ages. Defence and attack have needed sorting for years now, everyone can see that. He has had plenty of time to do his utmost for this club, but in my opinion he has not helped much at all. Like i said just my opinion. We need stability at this club with a manager running the team, not him.
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Post by Marc on Jan 8, 2023 13:58:12 GMT
Interesting choice of criticism. I have seen Ferdinand attacked online for many aspects of his role (overpaid, learning on the job, unqualified etc) - but not that he overrates himself. What is it that he has said that leads you to that conclusion? Well he constantly claims he wants to do whats best for the club, yet fails to address problems we have had for ages. Defence and attack have needed sorting for years now, everyone can see that. He has had plenty of time to do his utmost for this club, but in my opinion he has not helped much at all. Like i said just my opinion. We need stability at this club with a manager running the team, not him. Who says he's running the team?
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 8, 2023 17:43:41 GMT
Well I don't think that Ferdinand is running the team. To me, the questions regarding Ferdinand relate to what we can afford and how it is being spent. The cost of the Academy is outside of the FFP calculation - but given the losses we make every year, is the strategy correct to fund the new training ground, youth development etc? It may be early days, but we have carried on with an academy and a B Team and yet what has been the financial return to date. We still have to pick up discarded players from the bigger academies. Brentford jacked theirs in long ago. And yes, I know with Heston it is too late now, but if we need a bigger stadium, which one was the priority? Brentford built a new arena. Apart from Armstrong, most fans take the view that our own youngsters are nowhere near ready to step up. Beale talked them up at first but like with most things Beale.... As for Ferdinand running the team, I think his biggest weakness appears to be that he has to do what the manager in the chair dictates rather than the other way round. Would Beale (or Critchley?) have agreed to join us if they could not sign their own players. Some of Beale's signings (e.g. Balogun and Roberts) hardly fit the blueprint and now we are stuck with them. If we believe what we were informed that Warburton and Ferdinand fell out over Warburton not following the strategy (blooding youth etc.) then it is hard to accept what then followed with Beale. We needed a Director of Football as a bridge to our footballing incompetent owners. But even then, it was not that long ago that Charlie Austin was secured by Fernandes - and not Ferdinand. So my chief issue is that if you are going to have structure like we have, then you have to empower the right people. It should be a collaboration between the coach and the DofF, but by sticking to the pre-agreed atrategy. I still think that Beale was told the limitations and immediately tried to stretch the boundaries - talking to his network. When he was reminded of the parameters, he started looking for a swift exit. That may be the owners and management fault for that, but I guess we will never really know.
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Post by harr on Jan 8, 2023 20:28:20 GMT
I thought Balogun was a good signing. Was free and is a leader, improved us as soon as he came in. The biggest thing about our current squad is we don’t have many leaders to me.
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Post by kerrins on Jan 9, 2023 9:20:22 GMT
A fairly local fixture for me so I went to the game.
Sadly rubbish up front as per usual(Its been that way since day one) and this combined with too many defensive errors sealed our fate. In the first half we did have a lot of the ball but alas failed to take proper advantage.
Why is it that every single team we play seem to have better strikers out on the pitch? Why is it that all opposition front players no matter who they are look far more dangerous and more likely to score than our duds?
Before a ball was kicked this season I said that over the hill strikers Austin and Gray were STILL SUPERIOR than all the other strikers we have on the clubs books. Right now I regard that opinion as fact not conjecture. That's how bad the problem is up front.
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Post by harr on Jan 9, 2023 9:25:45 GMT
Sadly we couldn’t afford Gray but considering he only played bit parts and still scored 11-12 goals he was our best scorer last season. Gray is twice the finisher Dykes is. Once we couldn’t afford Gray and we’re left with Dykes, Bonne and a young Sinclair we knew we were up Sh1t creek.
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Post by kerrins on Jan 9, 2023 9:42:02 GMT
Harr matey. You sum that up perfectly
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 9, 2023 10:06:00 GMT
I thought Balogun was a good signing. Was free and is a leader, improved us as soon as he came in. The biggest thing about our current squad is we don’t have many leaders to me. I don't disagree - especially in the short term, but one of our better assets appears to have gone backwards (Dickie) partly as a consequence. I know that Dickie is better in a back three, but his spell on the bench behind Belagun seems to have impacted on his confidence. At 34, no sell-on value, likely to depart in January, he did not fit the articulated strategy and was clearly a Beale signing that Ferdinand must have yielded on.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 9, 2023 10:16:46 GMT
Sadly we couldn’t afford Gray but considering he only played bit parts and still scored 11-12 goals he was our best scorer last season. Gray is twice the finisher Dykes is. Once we couldn’t afford Gray and we’re left with Dykes, Bonne and a young Sinclair we knew we were up Sh1t creek. Agree with most of that. The not affording Gray though - he was said to be on £70k per week at Watford - he was never going to get that again in the Championship. But at 31, he was awarded a 4 year contract at Aris in Greece where he has scored 6 from 16 appearances. I do not know why he has only played 16 - or if he is injured, but would we really want to have given him a 4 year contract at the top end of our payscale? Stories about his attitude also impacted I would guess. As for Austin, now back two divisions below us. As for Dykes finishing ability, to me that is because he always leathers the ball rather than places it - just like his penalties. He invariably hits it hard - straight at the keeper. His finishing record is poor. We seem to have numerous number 10s none of whom seem to benefit from his physical presence. But as you say, he is all we have currently.
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Post by nomar on Jan 9, 2023 18:20:41 GMT
Read Clive's Loft for Word report on the Fleetwood game. There is genuinely nothing I can add to it because it pretty much mirrors everything I think and feel about this team right now.
As he said, soft as s**t. The slightest obstacle and they fold.
Yes Beale leaving may have affected them, but the same has happened to other clubs and their players have rolled their sleeves up and got on with it
Fleetwood wasn't just another 'QPR in the cup' scenario. For me it's the straw that broke the long suffering camel's back.
That dire non effort was as disrespectful to your fans as you could ever get.
This club just feels so broken right now.
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Post by harr on Jan 9, 2023 22:02:05 GMT
Did nobody tell the team they could have earnt the club £100 K for a win , it was if they were playing for a bag of crisps
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