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Post by spanishal on Nov 21, 2022 10:38:01 GMT
After watching the World Cup opener I hope VAR keeps out of the championship. Perfectly good goal by Ecuador ruled out by a ridiculous offside decision. The current offside rule with its slide rule decisions are killing the game and needs drastic change. I just wonder if referees are duty bound to accept these decisions and whether they have the power or the guts overrule them.
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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2022 14:43:47 GMT
Then there was the rugby tackle on McGuire a couple of minutes in that VAR didn't even look at!
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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2022 15:19:14 GMT
It's absurd. It appears the VAR thought it was a game of rugby at the beginning of the game, but at the end, it somehow became a non-contact sport. If similar happens in a tight game, all hell is going to break loose!
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Post by londonranger on Nov 21, 2022 15:45:28 GMT
Just watched Iran game. 10 mins of injury time. Iran look like a 2nd division team. England scored 6 goals. Jack Grealish scored one. He was ecstatic.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 21, 2022 21:49:18 GMT
Just watched Iran game. 10 mins of injury time. Iran look like a 2nd division team. England scored 6 goals. Jack Grealish scored one. He was ecstatic. Netherlands V Senegal looked like an A League match, not a World Cup finals match. 9 minutes of injury time in USA v Wales. The ref must've had the Sir Alex Fergusson Time Keeping watch on. VAR, Proudly sponsored by Specsavers!!
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Post by spanishal on Nov 22, 2022 8:53:02 GMT
9 minutes of injury time in USA v Wales. The ref must've had the Sir Alex Fergusson Time Keeping watch on. Apparently new FIFA ruling. Any dead ball situation , the clock stops. A ploy to prevent time wasting and general shithousery. Even penalties and goal celebrations are included. Something Rugby has always used.
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Post by kerrins on Nov 22, 2022 12:04:52 GMT
Never seen so much added time! If this extends to UK you will need to take a sleeping bag to evening games!
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Post by spanishal on Nov 24, 2022 18:48:31 GMT
Actually would love to see the “Rugby Clock” introduced into football. It’s controlled by another official and everybody knows what time is left without any referee involvement. Maybe even at 90 minutes play on until the ball goes dead, then again maybe a step too far.
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Post by kerrins on Nov 25, 2022 12:37:51 GMT
In my View I reckon the Rugby system of time keeping is better and more accurate and honest. Sadly not likely to be introduced...but you never know.
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Post by surreychad on Nov 25, 2022 14:23:58 GMT
I actually like what they are doing in the world cup, it seems to be cutting down on the time wasting tactics and punishing those that do.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 26, 2022 16:49:55 GMT
I actually like what they are doing in the world cup, it seems to be cutting down on the time wasting tactics and punishing those that do. I would debate that judging by the number of players suffering from cramp in the last 10 minutes of the games.
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Post by bristolpete on Nov 27, 2022 20:37:54 GMT
"In my View I reckon the Rugby system of time keeping is better and more accurate and honest. Sadly not likely to be introduced...but you never know."
Me too. I believe it has been considered, with 30 mins actual playing time, then the idiots at FIFA dismissed it.
I don't think VAR is a problem it is the officials watching the screen that are the problem. What are there 5, 6 of them?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 27, 2022 21:19:04 GMT
"In my View I reckon the Rugby system of time keeping is better and more accurate and honest. Sadly not likely to be introduced...but you never know." Me too. I believe it has been considered, with 30 mins actual playing time, then the idiots at FIFA dismissed it. I don't think VAR is a problem it is the officials watching the screen that are the problem. What are there 5, 6 of them? Nailed it exactly. Alsothe idea of stop watching the actual ball out of play/injury stops/ substitutions is a great idea BUT that it needs to be applied consistently and for several years. Players and coaches will learn that their theatrics and time wasting will no longer work.
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Post by bristolpete on Nov 28, 2022 13:50:20 GMT
Yes it will take time for players to get used to that idea: is in inbred?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 3, 2022 3:35:33 GMT
The Japan win, shows that it is not VAR at fault but the muppets using it.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 3, 2022 3:40:43 GMT
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Post by spanishal on Dec 3, 2022 9:55:26 GMT
The Japan win, shows that it is not VAR at fault but the muppets using it. Absolutely absurd. What next- ref orders a free kick, but VAR says it needs to be taken 5 cms further back, Scrap it, can you imagine if that was us who got kicked out because of this.
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Post by robindubois on Dec 3, 2022 10:03:34 GMT
By the rules of the game the ball was NOT out of play and the reason is shown in the BBC article. Sorry I cannot paste in the Twitter comments but if you read the article all is explained. If any part of the ball is on or on top of the line it is not out of play - it does not have to actually be touching the line www.bbc.com/sport/football/63832775We can discuss if the rule is the best method and certainly it is the most difficult to rule on as it can come down to minuscule distances but it has been proved that the decision was correct - unlike Englands disallowed clear goal against Germany in a previous World Cup. So Germany have to take the rough with the smooth but they have no cause to complain other than they were not good enough to qualify.
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