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Post by powerpump on Nov 28, 2022 10:08:43 GMT
Trying to look at the positives:
Hopefully we have enough points in the bank and will get enough points to not be drawn into a relegation battle( we are currently only 8 points ahead of 3rd from bottom).
Even if MB stayed any promotion hopes were always unrealistic.
We have compensation cash in the bank for new boss.
My opinion I guess we need :"a safe pair of hands" to keep us safe for the rest of this season......
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Post by robindubois on Nov 28, 2022 11:06:02 GMT
I liked Beale and really hoped we would have him for a few years. His post match interviews I felt were pretty good and agreed with most apart from the Coventry one when we were shocking and he said we deserved something from the game, we didn’t. I guess you can’t blame someone for wanting to further there career but not sure the way he went about it was correct. He shouldn’t have gone to watch Rangers the day after Birmingham loss, specially with their Manager under pressure. Maybe he should have given us the 9 minute have a long term project at QPR when deep down he knew he would be off if the Rangers or another job came up. I’m finding it a bit hard to wish him well really but I guess this is football. I did say I wish him and Rangers all the success their behaviour deserves - which in my mind is they do not deserve anything because of the way his was handled. |
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Post by nomar on Nov 28, 2022 11:10:58 GMT
I wonder if Dykes follows him to Rangers?
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 11:18:55 GMT
Not only do we lose Beales two people but we lose Banfield also  |
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Post by kenthoop on Nov 28, 2022 11:20:53 GMT
Or could Beale be feeling his security is not that great at QPR - and that if he's got a chance to get out (and arguably up) should take him now I would think that all the rest of the coaching staff he brought in will go too , and I strongly expect him to come calling in Jan for some players |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 28, 2022 11:27:52 GMT
Trying to look at the positives: Hopefully we have enough points in the bank and will get enough points to not be drawn into a relegation battle( we are currently only 8 points ahead of 3rd from bottom). Even if MB stayed any promotion hopes were always unrealistic. We have compensation cash in the bank for new boss. My opinion I guess we need :"a safe pair of hands" to keep us safe for the rest of this season...... Agreed and as it seems the main part of the backroom staff will be on their way (as usual) we need those safe hands in quickly I have a theory that we might even hear about one day if I am correct. I think our bad run and the poor performances all coincided with Beale turning down Wolves and his now infamous honesty integrity and loyalty speech. I am sure the players would have known what was going on behind the scenes and I think that he probably lost the dressing room at that time. Turning down Wolves and the subsequent speech was what was best for the man and fans, but if his loyalty and integrity speech was what he actually believed, he would not have even considered the Wolves approach and immediately ruled out a move. But instead it dragged on until he said no. Ok saying afterwards that he had asked people to be all in and he could not be the first to run away but the fact he even considered leaving would have sent a massive negative message to the team. Anyway that's just my theory but time now to look forward. I think it will go one of 2 ways. Either we go on a long downhill slide with players not knowing where they stand or what is to come, or the players re-group and set out to prove that he should have stayed and we get an "ex-manager" bounce. The problem is time. We need to get a new manager and backroom staff soon as we have a difficult looking run of games from Burnley up to the new year. A few good results in there and we should be fine but a run of losses and we will be fighting in the bottom third. Anyway I'm switching to the new manager thread now and put our ex manager experience down as another unpleasant drop in the ocean of QPR history. Maybe a harsh comment in some peoples eyes but when someone makes that integrity speech and days later does exactly the opposite with his visit to Rangers the only word that comes to mind is hypocrite. |
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Post by spanishal on Nov 28, 2022 14:20:37 GMT
Well can’t help but feel a nasty taste in my mouth, actually feel sorry for the players he persuaded to come to QPR. They might not be flavor of the month with the new incoming crew and must be totally de-moralizing all round. He must be as popular as Putin around Shepherds Bush.
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 17:25:40 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 28, 2022 17:55:23 GMT
Complete STatement 28th November 2022 Club statement: Mick Beale departs QPR sponsored by : Convivia QPR FC @qpr Share article: QPR can confirm Mick Beale has left his position as head coach with immediate effect to take up the managerial role at Glasgow Rangers. Beale came to Loftus Road six months ago and the club has made a solid start to the 2022/23 campaign under his guidance, currently sitting seventh in the Sky Bet Championship. The 42-year-old’s departure comes six weeks after he turned down an approach from a Premier League club. I fully appreciate fans’ frustrations right now. Lee Hoos Share QPR Director of Football Les Ferdinand said: “Naturally we are hugely disappointed to lose Mick. “Our extensive research when we were looking for a new head coach highlighted him as being very-much aligned with the direction we are moving in as a football club. “The start to the season we have made, coupled with very attractive football being played, gave us cause for optimism as we looked to build on the previous three seasons. “That optimism remains but there is no doubt it is a blow to lose Mick so soon into his tenure.” QPR CEO Lee Hoos said: “The search for Mick’s replacement doesn’t start now – as a club we are always updating a short-list of potential candidates so that we are ready for a situation such as this, and we will be moving quickly to make an appointment. “Mick helped us move the club forward – and we are grateful for that. The next managerial appointment we make will continue that progression. “There is so much to play for this season and I fully appreciate fans’ frustrations right now. Your support has been incredible and the players need your backing now more than ever.” First team coaches Neil Banfield, Damian Matthew and Harry Watling have also left QPR to join Beale in Scotland. QPR B Team manager Paul Hall will take over first-team duties in the interim period while the club look to identify a new head coach. The club will be making no further comment at this time. www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/club-statement-mick-beale-departs/ |
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 18:01:07 GMT
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Post by rangersman on Nov 28, 2022 18:24:17 GMT
You should be on tv Dubois, or an MP, you invent stuff as you go along. I was insulted and replied I don't care about others opinions via an insult. I stand by that, I don't need to put it in bold like you did PMSL. And maybe Kilburnhoop as your stooge, why don't you grow up sometime. All some of you ever do is moan and whinge about other peoples opinions, whilst thinking your own more important. Life is not like that, you insult me you get it back, then you moan to Admin like a schoolboy. Pathetic to say the least, don't like my posts? scroll on by, job done. Dont whinge and whine on here.
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Post by nomar on Nov 28, 2022 19:15:05 GMT
I believe that the compensation package is £1.5m. If that’s true then that will certainly help.
I wish him success at Rangers, I’m sure he’ll do well there. Looking forward to seeing who the club has identified as their replacement and whether we get some new manager bounce!
Onwards and upwards.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 28, 2022 19:15:22 GMT
Dave McINtyre on Beale's Depature |
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Post by nomar on Nov 28, 2022 19:22:00 GMT
Dave McINtyre on Beale's Depature As usual, McIntyre is the voice of reason here. I don’t get the vitriol aimed at Beale, but that seems to be the general response to most things these days. |
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Post by Marc on Nov 28, 2022 20:49:16 GMT
You should be on tv Dubois, or an MP, you invent stuff as you go along. I was insulted and replied I don't care about others opinions via an insult. I stand by that, I don't need to put it in bold like you did PMSL. And maybe Kilburnhoop as your stooge, why don't you grow up sometime. All some of you ever do is moan and whinge about other peoples opinions, whilst thinking your own more important. Life is not like that, you insult me you get it back, then you moan to Admin like a schoolboy. Pathetic to say the least, don't like my posts? scroll on by, job done. Dont whinge and whine on here. Ooh, you're 'ard! |
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 22:59:48 GMT
I believe that the compensation package is £1.5m. If that’s true then that will certainly help. I wish him success at Rangers, I’m sure he’ll do well there. Looking forward to seeing who the club has identified as their replacement and whether we get some new manager bounce! Onwards and upwards. I’m finding it hard to wish a departing Manager well on this occasion…….. Won’t be on social media calling him every name under the Sun but think he made himself look very bad indeed the way he went about it. I will certainly thank him for what he gave us over the first 18 matches which was enjoyable, the next four games he and the players already knew what was going on, that was pretty clear to see. Most of these players were signed in the belief of his project, then we had to endure a 9 minute video on how he could never let this group of players down only 4 weeks later to end like this……. I fully get it that on the other hand QPR have treated some Managers really poorly and a few more bad results and who knows what could have happened but I really hope he treats his other Clubs better than how he went about this. |
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Post by sharky on Nov 29, 2022 0:12:54 GMT
When one of the first things he said upon appointment was that he was looking forward to this new "project" I was not filled with optimism about his commitment to us. The Wolves knock back gave me hope but our trot of losses has seen him scurrying for the door. I hope his new "project" turns sour and turns sour quickly!
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 29, 2022 9:26:36 GMT
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Post by harr on Nov 29, 2022 9:36:05 GMT
Mick who
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Post by robindubois on Nov 29, 2022 10:52:01 GMT
Must be that bloke who used to be our coach - reads like saying thank you everyone for helping me improve and get the job I wanted in the first place. Not much of good luck in the future comments. Nice that the will support us from afar - as far as possible I hope. Hope we get our compensation quick. Scottish reporters saying that the club owing us the money are down to their last 5 million. 3.5 million of that needed to pay off their previous coach, 1.5 million due to us for taking ours ,then they have to pay their players and the tax man at the end of this month. After that they are almost back where they were when they got booted down the leagues - until they play a few home games and get some cash in. |
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Post by robindubois on May 13, 2023 11:32:55 GMT
Just noticed that Ross Wilson , Beale's great friend who tapped him up plus other friendly board and management at G Rangers have either already quit or will be gone at the end of season after fans protests over lack of progress and being second in everything to Celtic. Wilson went to Forest so it would be great to see them relegated - maybe when they play us next season Wilson will tap up Ainsworth  If things do not change early next season how long before the fan protests turn on Beale - they do not muck about up there. Meanwhile Beale is saying that he has a massive rebuild job to do in the summer - the biggest the club have seen in years , with up to 8 or 9 new first team players needed - and all with a limited budget due to their poor finances and a new board and management team above him. Maybe a question of out of the fire into the frying pan. Still think he would have been better off getting a year or 2 under his belt as a manager with us but that's water under the bridge. He is dumping a host of players including a couple of goalscoring front men who have bags of goals to their name - maybe we can swap Dykes for one or two of them but scoring in the Scottish PL is different to in the Championship. Interesting looking back on some of the comments above about Critchley being the best man and maybe better for us than Beale ......more water under the bridge. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Sept 6, 2023 8:32:47 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 6, 2023 10:21:57 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Sept 6, 2023 10:26:13 GMT
Gave me a smile anyway and it is pretty much spot on and similar to his time with us. People are starting to see a pattern. Now we have to wait for his next quotes if they have another bad game or 2. The players need to wake up, the players are not doing what I told them to do, no good training then doing something different. No I am loyal and have turned own Hereford United's offer. Rangers will always be in my heart but I am looking forward to a new challenge with Maldon and Tipton. Maybe we will take him back as Ainsworth's assistant .......or DOF Seriously though if he goes I would suggest Eustace is better off staying at Brum where he has built a good squad and I think will be up in the mix this season. |
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Post by blatantfowl on Sept 6, 2023 13:01:18 GMT
While awaiting the result of rangers v Celtic I was hoping they would both lose but Beale’s capitulation is the next best thing.
I don’t normally concern myself with ex managers but for Beale I make an exception.
When he left Villa his stock was vey high. Now, a little over a season later and he’s close to rock bottom.
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Post by rickyqpr on Sept 7, 2023 6:43:21 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Sept 7, 2023 7:02:40 GMT
After yesterdays post I trawled the Glasgow press including mainstream and some Dave Mac type ITK articles. Putting the lot together the general conclusion was:
1. Having lost their opening league game, thrashed in the Champions League and losing to Celtic Beale is under extreme pressure.
2. His newly formed squad is weaker than he one he let go - only 3 new signings featured against Celtic and one only because of injury. Butland is the only player to reach expectations. More pressure.
3. General feeling was he would be let go during the international break but the Chairman says he's has his backing (kiss of death) "for the moment".
4. With Celtic out of the League Cup Beale will have to win that Cup and go the rest of this calendar year without losing another game - if not he will be gone.
5. With the way the team are playing and widening gap between Beale and his players and the fans he is a dead man walking.
Sit back now and see what happens. Not usually interested in what ex managers do but I make an exception in Beale's case - his departure just left a bad taste
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Post by rickyqpr on Sept 7, 2023 7:37:37 GMT
I think part of the fascination with Beale is that in a world where the cycle is:
Chase for a known name manager
Persuade him to join and promise him funds
Disappointment - followed by the fans' fury and demand for blood
Payoff for said manager - and he sits by the phone to start another appointment and cycle.
But Beale is / was very different.
He reversed the cycle.
He interviewed the club(s).
He dictated his own future - generating his own PR
Never short of something to say or another interview
It became all about him - the players were his players - he had known them and tracked them since they were small children
He sacked the clubs - they did not sack him
Clubs he left behind RECEIVED compensation, they did not pay it - QPR badly needed that money last season for FFP after all
The media believed in him, they wanted the story, the success, the next move etc.
But then having promoted himself to high office, he is now having to deal with a huge catch-up.
The Scottish media who longed for him have turned on him. What he says is to be critiqued and no longer accepted.
He could face the sack for the first time - and what does that do for the future Beale Roadshow?
I somehow suspect that he will bounce back anyway.
We were just one small cog that he used when building his machine.
I don't think we all want a successful man to fail but I guess we all just would not mind some come uppence - if he is after all just full of s***.
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Post by blatantfowl on Sept 7, 2023 12:10:00 GMT
I love this line from the article “But whilst the Record report claims John Bennett is set to spare Michael Beale, the Rangers manager’s navy blue suit jacket is on a shoogly peg.” |
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Post by robindubois on Sept 7, 2023 13:19:51 GMT
I don't think we all want a successful man to fail but I guess we all just would not mind some come uppence - if he is after all just full of s***. Very true. I would not wish failure on the man but I think it would actually do him some good to be taken down a peg or two and maybe change his mindset. After everything I think he probably is a very good tactical coach but less so a man manager in the long run. As Ricky states it all becomes about him - and then things start to go wrong. Maybe because the players quickly see that it is more about him than the team or club. He would probably fit better in some decent European club where that maybe more acceptable. The thing that always made me wonder is that every photo I have seen of him shows a blank face with fixed staring eyes - maybe he has contact lenses or something but it does have the look of a man obsessed and driven to succeed at any cost. To be rated highly successful I do not regard being manager of Rangers or Celtic to be a good measure. They basically compete in a 2 team league and the best thing that could happen to Scottish football is to see that situation broken. Beale was probably rightly tempted by European football and hunting silverware but even if he wins a cup this year will that be a true measure of success?. I would say that if he had stayed with us and gained promotion it would have been a far bigger achievement and measure of his ability than anything he does in Scotland. |
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