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Post by Macmoish on Nov 26, 2022 14:17:09 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Nov 26, 2022 14:17:46 GMT
Exactly - who knows. I have just been trawling through the Scottish and Glasgow press and there is a growing clamour today that Beale should not go back. Some report that some players do not want him back, others that the clubs problems are far deeper than just on the pitch and he will be doomed to fail. He will only be seen as a success if he closes the gap on Celtic and their squad is not up to it Most interesting comments are that the men making the approach and taking the decision have about as much idea of running a football club as Tony F. did when he arrived at QPR. Also being reported that Beale took our training on Thursday before speaking to the owners and then visiting a London school where he made a speech with glowing comments about QPR. Probably all click bait but interesting to see completely opposing viewpoints being expressed by those north of the border. I still think he will go and still think it would be a big mistake. Time will tell on both points. Sean Dyche anyone? |
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Post by rangersman on Nov 26, 2022 14:49:52 GMT
Get it over with FFS, i have no interest in him as our manager anymore. Or any opinions of others in this group who don't like my comments. Tough, that's life, you have yours and I have mine. I wont lose any sleep over it, keep it up tho, mildly amusing in these glum times.
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Post by rangersman on Nov 26, 2022 14:51:58 GMT
I have had enough of this now, his silence has lost my respect for him. He needs to go and let us move on to a real loyal manager. There is no excuse for his silence, so no loyalty to QPR in my book. One of the most ridiculous posts I've seen from you. Well stick around son, or get a life. |
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Post by londonranger on Nov 26, 2022 15:42:57 GMT
So, maybe we should have kept Warburton.
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Post by Marc on Nov 26, 2022 16:09:35 GMT
One of the most ridiculous posts I've seen from you. Well stick around son, or get a life. The response of a 15 year old. |
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Post by harr on Nov 26, 2022 16:23:59 GMT
I get the impression MB was in discussion with them 2-3 weeks hence his visit to Glasgow.
No coincidence our form dipped big time,the players probably new it was on the cards too.
Hopefully he will have made his mind up Monday and if he is off then so be it,we may need a quick replacement in.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 26, 2022 17:01:45 GMT
Maybe he thought QPR were in Glasgow. Then he woke up and realized he landed at Loftus Road. Too difficult to unpack this, someone didn't do their homework.
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Post by nomar on Nov 26, 2022 18:30:00 GMT
Am I the only one not that worked up about this?
I fully expected him to be linked to the Glasgow Rangers job at some point and as soon as they sacked Van Bronkhorst I felt it was a given he’d be in the frame for the job.
I actually won’t be mad at him either, because the job is far better than our job, and I can’t really blame someone for moving on to something better. And as Marc said, if you believe that you’re going to get a loyal manager these days, well good luck with that!
Hopefully they (Beale and Glasgow Rangers) get the deal completed quickly (Monday) so that we can move on and appoint someone else.
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Post by harr on Nov 26, 2022 18:42:45 GMT
Betting now suspended
BBC reporting he held talks with Rangers today.
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Post by surreychad on Nov 26, 2022 19:01:40 GMT
Am I the only one not that worked up about this? I fully expected him to be linked to the Glasgow Rangers job at some point and as soon as they sacked Van Bronkhorst I felt it was a given he’d be in the frame for the job. I actually won’t be mad at him either, because the job is far better than our job, and I can’t really blame someone for moving on to something better. And as Marc said, if you believe that you’re going to get a loyal manager these days, well good luck with that! Hopefully they (Beale and Glasgow Rangers) get the deal completed quickly (Monday) so that we can move on and appoint someone else. I think it for most it's what he said when he was approached by wolves about loyalty and the fact that we looked like we had a chance this season. Its the hope that kills as they say. Critchley is being talked about and IMHO is probably just as good and has more experience as a manager. |
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Post by londonranger on Nov 26, 2022 22:18:42 GMT
What happenes when he leaves Rangers for a juicier job. Leopards don't change their spots. Wolves were smart.
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Post by harr on Nov 26, 2022 23:42:48 GMT
I would say reading the Scottish Sun and other reports looking like M Beale could well be gone tomorrow or Monday?
If that the case and he wants to take his back room team with him, fair enough.
Hope he don’t come sniffing for players in Jan though if he goes as loads of Rangers players are out of contract soon.
Really don’t get it going to Rangers, it’s a funny league that Scottish Prem, just two teams beat all the rest in there every year.
Sure staying at QPR and trying to get to the Prem is a decent enough project or even managing Wolves and trying to keep them in the Prem.
Rangers ok there’s Europe but really I don’t see it as mind blowing great move really, IF he goes.
Sure he was also tapped when he went up there to watch the Aberdeen game, picked one point since then.
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Post by harr on Nov 27, 2022 8:24:04 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 27, 2022 8:34:59 GMT
If he was as sure of his own abilities; would think he would have held off switching jobs mid-season. This is a permanent stain on his CV...And no future club can be sure he won't just abandon them.
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Post by rickyqpr on Nov 27, 2022 8:58:18 GMT
I hope they are not trying to negotiate down the compensation.... we could do with that money. For me, I just want it settled now. There is no way back for Beale with QPR - and if the move falls down now, we will be in a darker place than if it goes through. Disappointing that we seemed to be on the cusp of something very good, but QPR fans are not allowed nice things. I suppose the last 5 games at least made his exit easier for us. Had we still been top and he walked........ |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 27, 2022 9:33:52 GMT
I hope they are not trying to negotiate down the compensation.... we could do with that money. For me, I just want it settled now. There is no way back for Beale with QPR - and if the move falls down now, we will be in a darker place than if it goes through. Disappointing that we seemed to be on the cusp of something very good, but QPR fans are not allowed nice things. I suppose the last 5 games at least made his exit easier for us. Had we still been top and he walked........ So many 'in the know' 'sources say' 'my understanding' posts around - I will not believe anything until it is officially reported. Meanwhile it is dragging on too long for everyone and I think our club are the biggest losers in this situation - for once not of their own making. Whatever the outcome our season is disrupted by all the talk. Even if in teh unlikely case that the club and Beale are in total agreement and he is not looking to go the publicity creates a huge cloud for the players and fans. Meanwhile I see the social media keyboard warriors are crawling out from under their rocks to take out their frustration on other decent posters rather than holding a grown up discussion. Anyway Nomar asked a question. So to answer, despite all my ramblings, I am not fussed about him going or staying as life will go on, the damage has been done, but its is a frustrating situation when we looked like were making progress. However it is interesting to try to follow and hold some views and opinions and to speculate rather than ignore it all. The latest Tweet that Harr shared is interesting as well - runs against the stuff being leaked yesterday afternoon. Different possibilities - Rangers (who are not in good financial health) my want to negotiate the compensation down and we are rightly playing hard ball. That is where I think Les F's comments about not standing in Beales way may not have been helpful. If he had said that Beale can go he if wants but only for the full compensation I would have been happier. Another possibility is that we are really playing hard ball and accusing Rangers of making an illegal approach - there are enough photos and witnesses of the goings on at the Rangers Aberdeen game plus anything Beale has told the club about his visit and communications with his friends up north. Least likely is that Beale has decided to stay and the club do not want to give Rangers the chance to turn his head again. Beale will have a massive rebuilding job to do if he goes so I fully expect he will come back - he seems ruthless and will try to get players he knows and can work with. Willock Chair Seny, Tim I. Field and Laird could all be on his list and they would be capable in the Scottish League - not sure about Europe though. Even Dykes who would go down well with the Scottish fans. So the wait continues, the longer it goes on the worse for everyone and I hope we are knocking on a few doors such for a replacement - not long before Burnley. We may even get a "new manager bounce" although we never seem to get the same benefit that many clubs do. |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 27, 2022 10:01:52 GMT
After posting the above I just watched a video on Sky Sports news of an interview with Beale a week or so after his trip to Glasgow, and they asked him why he went.
His réponse at some length was that he left there one year ago without the chance to say goodbye to his many friends inside and outside the club and the Friday Brum game was the first chance of a free Saturday to go back to say goodbye. Really? Yes it was our first Friday game but did he go to say goodbye or hello?
He spoke at length and detail about Rangers and their results, the crowd etc and his support for their now former manager.
Believe what you will.
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Post by harr on Nov 27, 2022 11:03:09 GMT
If he goes and we get the 1.5 Million in the bank it’s not the end of the world.
We have to get someone else in quickly , we can either spend the money and perhaps that won’t restrict us so much on the candidate or we get a new Nanager for the same funds and have 1,5 Million to get a loan striker or bought striker in.
I wanted Beale here for the long haul but it is what it is and we might not do to bad out of it all unless they come back in January trying to pinch our talent on the cheap.
Anyhow he hasn’t even gone yet but admittedly not looking great
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Post by nomar on Nov 27, 2022 12:16:12 GMT
Am I the only one not that worked up about this? I fully expected him to be linked to the Glasgow Rangers job at some point and as soon as they sacked Van Bronkhorst I felt it was a given he’d be in the frame for the job. I actually won’t be mad at him either, because the job is far better than our job, and I can’t really blame someone for moving on to something better. And as Marc said, if you believe that you’re going to get a loyal manager these days, well good luck with that! Hopefully they (Beale and Glasgow Rangers) get the deal completed quickly (Monday) so that we can move on and appoint someone else. I think it for most it's what he said when he was approached by wolves about loyalty and the fact that we looked like we had a chance this season. Its the hope that kills as they say. Critchley is being talked about and IMHO is probably just as good and has more experience as a manager. Yes, in hindsight that was probably not the wisest thing for him to have said. But what’s done is done and little point dwelling on it now. If he goes, which now looks almost guaranteed, then we get a new manager and get behind him. I just can’t be doing with all the finger pointing and angry comments on social media. And, on the bright side, at least we still have a couple of weeks before the next game, which gives us enough time to get a new man in and working with the players. |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 27, 2022 12:56:53 GMT
I think it for most it's what he said when he was approached by wolves about loyalty and the fact that we looked like we had a chance this season. Its the hope that kills as they say. Critchley is being talked about and IMHO is probably just as good and has more experience as a manager. Yes, in hindsight that was probably not the wisest thing for him to have said. But what’s done is done and little point dwelling on it now. If he goes, which now looks almost guaranteed, then we get a new manager and get behind him. I just can’t be doing with all the finger pointing and angry comments on social media. And, on the bright side, at least we still have a couple of weeks before the next game, which gives us enough time to get a new man in and working with the players. Agree with all that. Looking forward Critchley's name is popping up as a good replacement, out of work and with management experience and similar approach to Beale's Some reports say we would need to act quickly to get him (I think we need to act quickly regardless of who we go for) as he is considering becoming a coach at Bournemouth. But Bournemouth ave just named Gary (take one for the team) O'Neil as their head coach so would Critchley prefer to work as no 2 to an inexperienced manager at Bournemouth or return to management with us. Money might be a factor but ambition should be more important. Meanwhile some Scottish press are getting bent out of shape because they report that Amit Bhatia put a like on a fans Tweet that was criticising Beale. I can understand Amit's point of view but hardly the way to convince Beale to stay. |
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Post by kilburnhoop on Nov 27, 2022 17:01:39 GMT
Get it over with FFS, i have no interest in him as our manager anymore. Or any opinions of others in this group who don't like my comments. Tough, that's life, you have yours and I have mine. I wont lose any sleep over it, keep it up tho, mildly amusing in these glum times. Bore off you clown |
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Post by kilburnhoop on Nov 27, 2022 17:03:36 GMT
Enjoy the world cup lads, there is some cracking football on show. A joy to watch. Back to the grind of the Championship soon enough...
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Post by harr on Nov 27, 2022 18:04:42 GMT
Reckon GOING now  oh well, move on, it’s been short and fun. |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 27, 2022 20:00:43 GMT
Get it over with FFS, i have no interest in him as our manager anymore. Or any opinions of others in this group who don't like my comments. Tough, that's life, you have yours and I have mine. I wont lose any sleep over it, keep it up tho, mildly amusing in these glum times. Bore off you clown Come on, please. |
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Post by powerpump on Nov 28, 2022 0:22:34 GMT
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 7:43:12 GMT
Think we need potential Manager thread ? At sometime today QPR will be letting us know. Have 12 days until Burnley |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 28, 2022 9:08:28 GMT
With all due respect Mac rangersman posted "Get it over with FFS, i have no interest in him as our manager anymore. Or any opinions of others in this group who don't like my comments. Tough, that's life, you have yours and I have mine. I wont lose any sleep over it, keep it up tho, mildly amusing in these glum times."
The first part I have no problem with as that is his opinion and no doubt shared by others. The piece in bold is the bit that is a totally unnecessary wind up and frankly insulting to other posters. The same sort of comment is added to the majority of his post if anyone has a different opinion. But they go ignored by our Admins and it is only if someone dares to answer him in a similar tone that an Admin might post a mild word of rebuke normally aimed at the respondent. If someone has no interest in the opinions of others on the board and is not prepared to enter into the slightest form of debate, but rather just makes comments that basically tell others to f... off why post in the first place. So deal with the source of the problem and not those who are fed up and react to it. No doubt I will get the usual blast from that poster but in his own words Tough, that's life. |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 28, 2022 9:12:53 GMT
Think we need potential Manager thread ? At sometime today QPR will be letting us know. Have 12 days until Burnley Agreed Harr - Lock this thread and I just started a new one - not interested in seeing Beales name again. Can't blame a man for wanting to get on in life but makes his words after rejecting Wolves gut wrenching and either shows lies or untrustworthy. Anyway I wish him and Rangers all the success their behaviour deserves. Edit Famous Last Words: Mick Beale “Integrity is a real big thing for me, and loyalty. You don’t give it to receive it back but I think if they’re the values you live by then at times when you’re put in a position then you have to be strong by them.
“I have been all-in here and I have asked other people to be all-in so I can’t be the first person to run away from the ship.” |
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Post by harr on Nov 28, 2022 10:00:28 GMT
I liked Beale and really hoped we would have him for a few years. His post match interviews I felt were pretty good and agreed with most apart from the Coventry one when we were shocking and he said we deserved something from the game, we didn’t. I guess you can’t blame someone for wanting to further there career but not sure the way he went about it was correct. He shouldn’t have gone to watch Rangers the day after Birmingham loss, specially with their Manager under pressure. Maybe he should not have given us the 9 minute have a long term project at QPR video when deep down he knew he would be off if the Rangers or another job came up. I’m finding it a bit hard to wish him well really but I guess this is football. |
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oh well, move on, it’s been short and fun.