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Post by Marc on Mar 5, 2022 14:02:15 GMT
Gray starts, still no Austin or Dykes and Johansen is ill.
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Post by Marc on Mar 5, 2022 15:40:07 GMT
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Post by Marc on Mar 5, 2022 15:48:12 GMT
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Post by sharky on Mar 5, 2022 16:29:20 GMT
1-1
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Post by sharky on Mar 5, 2022 16:34:38 GMT
1-2 FFS
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 5, 2022 16:38:23 GMT
On QPR could have 72% possession, 16 shots to 9, 8 corners to 2 and still be losing.
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Post by harr on Mar 5, 2022 16:38:37 GMT
Dominate a game totally 70% possession , waste endless chance and 2-1 down , amazing.
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Post by nomar on Mar 5, 2022 16:40:58 GMT
Just continually getting beaten by genuinely bad teams.
They look slow and uninterested, quite frankly and have deserved everything they’ve been getting lately.
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Post by sharky on Mar 5, 2022 16:55:02 GMT
FT 1-2
Ah well there's always next season!
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Post by harr on Mar 5, 2022 16:56:17 GMT
Absolutely shocking. I reckon we will finish outside the top 10. In fact we might be outside the top 10 by Wednesday….. One point from Barnsley,Hull and Cardiff , 5 points from 21 now , jokes
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Post by londonranger on Mar 5, 2022 16:58:19 GMT
Warb wobble?
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Post by nomar on Mar 5, 2022 17:03:02 GMT
Absolutely shocking. I reckon we will finish outside the top 10. In fact we might be outside the top 10 by Wednesday….. One point from Barnsley,Hull and Cardiff , 5 points from 21 now , jokes We should be out of the playoffs, in all fairness. Dropped off a cliff since the international break and don’t look like we can ever win another game ever again at the moment. It’s one thing losing to good teams, but we’ve lost to some absolute dogs chocolate teams that playoff teams really have no business losing games to. Loads of possession today without ever looking like scoring a second, going 1-0 up and allowing bad teams to hang around before we decide to help them out by giving the ball away needlessly and inviting them to attack us. We’ve had a good season, but these last few weeks have been hard to take as a QPR fan because you’re just watching a team seemingly going through the motions with no conviction, no concrete plan, no pace and no sense of urgency.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 5, 2022 17:08:40 GMT
18 shots to 11.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Mar 5, 2022 17:10:20 GMT
Apparently nobody wants to go up as the league gets tighter and tighter . Think it's going down to who gets the best run together in the last 6 or 7 games. Still lots of twists to come. Trying to stay positive.
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Post by harr on Mar 5, 2022 17:11:34 GMT
Absolutely shocking. I reckon we will finish outside the top 10. In fact we might be outside the top 10 by Wednesday….. One point from Barnsley,Hull and Cardiff , 5 points from 21 now , jokes We should be out of the playoffs, in all fairness. Dropped off a cliff since the international break and don’t look like we can ever win another game ever again at the moment. It’s one thing losing to good teams, but we’ve lost to some absolute dogs chocolate teams that playoff teams really have no business losing games to. Loads of possession today without ever looking like scoring a second, going 1-0 up and allowing bad teams to hang around before we decide to help them out by giving the ball away needlessly and inviting them to attack us. We’ve had a good season, but these last few weeks have been hard to take as a QPR fan because you’re just watching a team seemingly going through the motions with no conviction, no concrete plan, no pace and no sense of urgency. 100% in agreement with this Nomar
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Post by harr on Mar 5, 2022 17:15:04 GMT
Apparently nobody wants to go up as the league gets tighter and tighter . Think it's going down to who gets the best run together in the last 6 or 7 games. Still lots of twists to come. Trying to stay positive. I’m not to sure, we can’t beat the crap teams, have you seen what’s coming up in April…. Reallynthink we could finish 10 th at the minute.
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Post by nomar on Mar 5, 2022 17:24:57 GMT
Apparently nobody wants to go up as the league gets tighter and tighter . Think it's going down to who gets the best run together in the last 6 or 7 games. Still lots of twists to come. Trying to stay positive. Agreed. But we genuinely look like we’ve gone. It looked like a blip, but after today I’m honestly not sure anymore. We genuinely don’t look like we can beat anyone at the moment. This result really hurts, because there is no frickin universe where that Cardiff team is remotely a good side. And we lost to them. Genuinely, that’s not good enough.
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Post by rico on Mar 5, 2022 17:32:02 GMT
Shocking but it's been coming not played well since December we relied to much on willock and chair both start every game and are not really at the races warbs is now struggling to motivate the team to get results and has been mentioned in earlier post we don't look interested if we finish any lower than 9th that isn't good enough and warbs will move on as next season we will loose a lot of players this season is slowly turning into a dismal damp squib as per
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Post by londonranger on Mar 5, 2022 18:24:12 GMT
Two things. When we lost to Barnsley it started the rot. I predicted them to lose today. 2nd. at the Window. Ferdianad asked Warby do you need any strikers. NO said Warbs a mid fielder would be fine. So we got one. B.S. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.! Thus a floperoo of a season.
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Post by rickyqpr on Mar 5, 2022 19:02:38 GMT
Well as I saw it live and without the benefit of replays..... We have played far worse and won this season - and that is part of the problem - the expectation is huge. The disappointment even greater. We were so on top in the first half and to go in only one up was the issue. we do not convert when on top. Cardiff in the first half were made to look very poor. Two substitutions for Cardiff made a big difference. Began came on for Doughty, he had been ineffective. Davies came on for Vaulks who had been marked out of the game. We had a very lenient ref - very! Cardiff were kicking us all over the park in the second half, Began (right in front of where I sit) did not even get spoken to for his constant fouling. Davies was a real live wire, he really ran us ragged, not sure why he did not start. For 15 second half minutes we looked ok. Then Dickie was fouled and the ref did not give it, people around me screaming at the ref. Marshall for the second week did not cover himself in glory and we were a goal down. The free kick was another gift, fouls in the build up and off the ball not punished. Gaping hole in the top corner, cracking shot, Marshall no where near it. Cardiff able to defend deep, and then the biggest worry, we looked pretty clueless and devoid of pace. Huge contrast from the first half to the final 30 minutes. Not sure we did enough from the bench early enough to counter the pace of Davies or the bullying we sustained. Build for next season now. Very disappointed that we have fallen away, but we are still making year on year progress and I guess we should not lose sight of that. Funniest moment, the ball ball pinching the towels to stop the ball drying timewasting. Ho hum.......
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Post by stylecouncillor on Mar 5, 2022 20:34:46 GMT
Two things. When we lost to Barnsley it started the rot. I predicted them to lose today. 2nd. at the Window. FerdInand asked Warby do you need any strikers. NO said Warbs a mid fielder would be fine. So we got one. B.S. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.! Thus a floperoo of a season.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Mar 5, 2022 20:47:30 GMT
Two things. When we lost to Barnsley it started the rot. I predicted them to lose today. 2nd. at the Window. Ferdianad asked Warby do you need any strikers. NO said Warbs a mid fielder would be fine. So we got one. B.S. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.! Thus a floperoo of a season. Maybe a little Harsh as in I don't think to many people thought we would be pushing for promotion at the start of the season. But the transfer window looked obvious Nobody saw Charlie playing every game. Dykes has never been prolific and Gray never sent the pulses racing when he arrived and been 3rd choice to play. Perhaps it's never going to be easy to get a goalscorer in January,but we really have asked alot of chair and Willock to score goals. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Should Warbs go if we fail to make the playoffs ? Currently I'm still a no
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Post by Lonegunmen on Mar 5, 2022 21:08:16 GMT
I'm still waiting to see what all the hype about chair is. Missing in action for 80% of a game. Sure he can do a few amazing things but they now appear to be few and far between. Now prove me wrong Ilias and start showing up for 90 minutes....every game.
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Post by harr on Mar 5, 2022 21:20:51 GMT
I think it possibly started at Peterboro, that was a tame performance against a poor team, cost us a huge tie at Home to Man City also. I guess it don’t really matter when it started but when’s it going to end. If we continue to drop down the table like I expect us to between now and end the end of the season, opinions might change if we finish up 10 th or 12 th. We could easily turn into a WBA now.
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Post by londonranger on Mar 5, 2022 21:59:53 GMT
No more rants. Its exhausting. After a while one doesn't care. But as long as I have been a QPR supporter they will do well and then let you down flat on your face.
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Post by blatantfowl on Mar 6, 2022 0:00:04 GMT
It seems part of QPR dna to lose against weak opposition and then up their game and beat the best teams. Given our run in, this is what I’m pinning my hopes on.
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Post by harr on Mar 6, 2022 0:35:26 GMT
Well as I saw it live and without the benefit of replays..... We have played far worse and won this season - and that is part of the problem - the expectation is huge. The disappointment even greater. We were so on top in the first half and to go in only one up was the issue. we do not convert when on top. Cardiff in the first half were made to look very poor. Two substitutions for Cardiff made a big difference. Began came on for Doughty, he had been ineffective. Davies came on for Vaulks who had been marked out of the game. We had a very lenient ref - very! Cardiff were kicking us all over the park in the second half, Began (right in front of where I sit) did not even get spoken to for his constant fouling. Davies was a real live wire, he really ran us ragged, not sure why he did not start. For 15 second half minutes we looked ok. Then Dickie was fouled and the ref did not give it, people around me screaming at the ref. Marshall for the second week did not cover himself in glory and we were a goal down. The free kick was another gift, fouls in the build up and off the ball not punished. Gaping hole in the top corner, cracking shot, Marshall no where near it. Cardiff able to defend deep, and then the biggest worry, we looked pretty clueless and devoid of pace. Huge contrast from the first half to the final 30 minutes. Not sure we did enough from the bench early enough to counter the pace of Davies or the bullying we sustained. Build for next season now. Very disappointed that we have fallen away, but we are still making year on year progress and I guess we should not lose sight of that. Funniest moment, the ball ball pinching the towels to stop the ball drying timewasting. Ho hum....... Year on year progress if we get more than 68 points though. Will we get 4 more wins and a draw from our last 11 games though is the question.?? Otherwise you could argue we havnt moved forwards. On current form 5 points from 7 matches ( 6 game current form 21st) it might be close considering Fulham, Sheff U twice, Huddersfield , Forest plus Luton , Stoke, Preston and Swansea away. Peterboro and Derby at home will give us a game on this form.
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Post by rickyqpr on Mar 6, 2022 9:59:19 GMT
Depends how you measure progress Harr. Points won and final position is fair enough, but I think our business model has advanced a great deal over last season. Last season we achieved with loan players and had a couple of sellable assets. This season the players are ours with three fringe exceptions. We have at least 5 sellable players and a stronger academy, a new training ground on the horizon and the best financial figures for a generation. As I said above, yesterday we did not cope with the pace and power of Davies and Dickie struggled, his shirt-pull for the second goal was hard to see live, but it looked like an obvious foul for the first goal – and Marshall should have stopped it anyway. As for the call for another striker, circumstances have conspired against us. We had three very different strikers (who were all struggling for form). Two have been injured and then we have Andre…. He scored a well taken goal yesterday, he can do that, but he plays off the shoulder. He is frustrating to watch live. Trying to pull the line back he is either standing off-side or darting on and off. When the ball gets played the chances are that the lino flags, so the ball does not get played. The ball from Willock, curved round the back line yesterday was superb but Gray could not finish. But once chasing the game, with a defence content to sit, Gray offers very little. He is not going to win a ball in the air against Flint (not many do). So, we just run out of ideas and belief. We did not look like equalizing, but Cardiff looked more likely to break away for a third. At that point we needed Dykes or Austin, neither were available. So perhaps we did need another, but who can predict injuries. I suspect that Gray and Hendrick are pretty expensive as it is. Then there is Hendrick. He does not do a lot wrong, but I would rather we developed our own in Amos, Dozzell or even Thomas. Field, Johansen and Hendrick lack an engine that the other three have. I don’t think we needed Hendrick. We had a spell of games when we always took Chair off, now it is Willock. I don’t think Chair has been as good in 2022, yesterday I thought Willock was the better option to keep on. Now we discover that Seny Dieng is out for a least another month. Our luck is deserting us big time. Marshall did well at first and I think he is better than Archer, but he has cost us two goals in two. Yesterday we had sixth choice keeper (Mahoney) on the bench (Dieng, Archer, Marshall, Walsh & Barnes) – who could have predicted that one. I hope that we can rally, but realistically, the dream ended yesterday given our remaining fixtures.
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Post by LifeR on Mar 6, 2022 14:02:45 GMT
Early on in his tenure Warbs identified lack of height and technical skills as being major deficits at QPR.
Those were solved courtesy of great scouting and management by Sir Les, unearthing relative bargains (Dunne, Fields, Amos, Willock, Dozier etc).
We are in much better shape than 2-3 years ago. Next season they will unearth a couple of young strikers we have yet to be familiar with and that will be the next step.
The Championship is a tough division with great parity (OK, except for Fulham and their carousel pals Norridge).
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Post by rico on Mar 6, 2022 14:44:37 GMT
From Dec 30th untill Feb 5th we went 7 games unbeaten that was without seny and chair we showed great character in those games and an energy to win games when we didn't play that great that run put us in a position which pointed to a play off spot at worst although a few of us on here thought we were punching above our weight willock was on fire for us then and was playing with a freedom to hurt teams he hasn't looked the same player since playing with chair in the same team warbs loves midfielders hence bringing in Hendricks when we didn't need him yet he starts ahead of Amos and Dozzel which I find hard to understand but as for our future we will sell maybe four players and make a profit this summer and start again very frustrating but that how it goes
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