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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 7:02:43 GMT
Unless I am dreaming I posted a couple of comments in a thread about "the question Warbs must answer" or similar title which disagreed with the OP.
I realised last night there was a typo in one of the comments and went to amend it this morning but I cannot find my post or the thread.
Questions - Am I just not looking in the right place or has the thread been deleted by a Mod without notice, if it was deletedwhy, and if this is the case why should I bother reading or posting to this board again ?
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 29, 2021 7:20:12 GMT
I personally didn't read your comment. And I certainly didnt delete it - Any other moderator?
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Post by rickyqpr on Sept 29, 2021 7:22:35 GMT
I posted on that thread as well. Very odd??
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Post by sharky on Sept 29, 2021 9:04:24 GMT
Didn't post on that thread but remember it well. Has Warbs been hacking this board?
Seriously though what happened? I don't recall anything in it that would warrant it being deleted without a reason if that's what happened rather than it being deleted by mistake.
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Post by sharky on Sept 30, 2021 15:13:35 GMT
Maybe the person who started the thread took it down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 15:37:38 GMT
Maybe the person who started the thread took it down. Yes but that has to be a mod and I know who started the short thread. As a test I have tried to take down my own thread and it is not possible for a normal poster as far as I can see. Anyway I'm patient and will wait until Sunday to see if anyone has the courtesy to answers my questions. If not I will provide the highly probable answers myself along with a few other final comments. First it's more important that we the get 3 points on Saturday as I think we will see the top 8 start to pull away from the pack by the end of October and we must stay in that top 8 and then push on.
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Post by Marc on Sept 30, 2021 16:05:52 GMT
Maybe the person who started the thread took it down. Yes but that has to be a mod and I know who started the short thread. As a test I have tried to take down my own thread and it is not possible for a normal poster as far as I can see. Anyway I'm patient and will wait until Sunday to see if anyone has the courtesy to answers my questions. If not I will provide the highly probable answers myself along with a few other final comments. First it's more important that we the get 3 points on Saturday as I think we will see the top 8 start to pull away from the pack by the end of October and we must stay in that top 8 and then push on. It was started by Harry (Londonranger) who is an Admin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2021 8:38:23 GMT
Thanks Mark. I know London created the thread which probably only contained 5 posts, and this post will be longer than the 5 put together. To put and end to this thread I would be 99% sure of who deleted the thread. Which brings me to the question of why. Some may say I am over sensitive but I can assure everyone that is far from the truth but I am a man of principles. So why delete a thread - to mind no reason at all. It was a simple question from London as to why Austin did not play against WBA, which I answered with my opinion that he was given a rest after playing 90 minutes against Everton and that tactically Gray's pace may have been better against WBA's defence. London went on to hold Warburton responsible for the individual mistakes that handed WBA the game and claimed Warnock would never allow that to happen. Again I countered that Warnock did let that happen when Boro let 10 man Rangers come back to win 3-2 early this season (my typo was to omit the "10"). I also pointed out politely that how ever much a good coach coaches good players there is no way that they can eliminate or be held responsible for the odd individual error such as Dieng's. A subsequent more eloquent post from Ricky stated the same and I expected that would be the end of the topic, as I did not expect London to respond in any way that his opinion may be wrong. Then the thread disappeared - maybe an accident (I doubt it), maybe to avoid embarrassment that was not there, maybe to avoid responding. I doubt I will ever know the exact truth but have strong ideas. So that brings me to why should I bother posting to this board if one individual can delete anything without explanation. The answer sadly is that I see little point in posting again but will explain a bit of historic perspective. To put this in context, as some members know I have been posting to this board for a number of years and probably have made 5,000 or more posts. Originally as member "57" ( a long story re that name), the account under which the majority of my posts appeared. My life as "57" came to an end when a certain Admin decided to publicly rebuke, and to my mind, humiliate me with public post. My crime was that I had responded in kind to a well known extremely abusive poster whose attacks on the club, players and other members of this board were personal, outrageous and foul mouthed, and for a long time were ignored by Admins. So I slowly deleted my old comments that were not in locked threads then deleted my account. After a while of reading as a guest the above mention abusive poster was expelled from the board and I rejoined as '75". Throughout both my under these accounts I enjoyed sharing information, views and opinions with many people such as Harr, Terry and Bowranger. Even when we disagreed strongly I felt that our opinions were given with a degree of respect and often humour and always knowing that we all had the best interests of the Club at heart. Unfortunately my time as 75 wound down when a flurry of posts not directly related to football and involving a certain Admin led to the departure of many excellent posters such as Bow and imo the board suffered as a result. As a man of principle I wound down my75 account in support of Bow and others who had already left. and once again reverted to reading posts as a guest. After a while I noticed that imo the board was in a state of slow decline despite the efforts of people like Ricky to keep things active. Being a champion of lost causes I relented and rejoined with the account name Champion for last season and as a light hearted move temporarily changed the account to Turkish Ali for the period of the Euro's, purely because Turkey played the first game of the finals against Italy, the team I expected to win the competition, and then closed that account due to relative inactivity on the board After contact from a couple of long time posters I rejoined as 'wembley21' . Strangely I chose that name as at the start of the season I had the gut feeling that this season we would make it to Wembley either in the play-offs or a cup. So I am pleased that both routes are still a possibility but annoyed that I should have used Wembley 22 as my name as it will be 2022 if we reach Wembley. So that brings me to where we are today. A few regular posters but not much in the way of information, which is copied from the press. The sometimes interesting historic "bumps" from Mac which bring back memories from my more than 65 years following the R's, score predictions and one liners during games that most are watching on streams anyway. Of course we should not forget the infamous Rangersman and his amusing but annoying digs when we are losing. So in conclusion this will absolutely be my last post, no more changes of mind, but I will leave my account open and this thread in place for history - unless someone deletes it. Thanks to all who have shared their thoughts and opinions over the years, good luck for the future and I will keep following the R's (in peace without the frustration from this board), until my final breath which hopefully will not be too soon. No PM's please as I will not be reading them.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 1, 2021 9:02:43 GMT
I must admit that I am disappointed that what ever happened to that thread has never been properly addressed and another regular poster has departed. This board is fast becoming a prediction league and Mac's bumps. After the problems of 2020, I so nearly left as well, but carried on, but I no longer participate in the live match debates, commenting only when the game is finished, and shying away from the potentially contentious thread, so as not to feel as upset as I did back then. I still post articles that I think other may find interesting, but there are so few responses now. Perhaps, that is why this censorship thread was never properly answered, apart from Mac who made it clear that he had no involvement in deleting the thread. But although Wembley will apparently never read what I have posted, I agree that his question warranted a proper answer. I do not know what or why, but it hardly encourages others to participate in any debate and such acts are killing this board IMHO.
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Post by sharky on Oct 1, 2021 9:30:04 GMT
So who did delete the thread?
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Post by surreychad on Oct 1, 2021 10:16:24 GMT
Not that I want to hijack this thread but I think its important to let people know that for me this board is superb. There are some really interesting comments and posts, I find the people on here friendly and willing to discuss topics and will listing to views.
I wasn't here in its heyday but right now its one of my favourite sites
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Post by Marc on Oct 1, 2021 11:19:37 GMT
So who did delete the thread? If I have to stick my neck out, I'd say London may have deleted it.
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Post by londonranger on Oct 1, 2021 14:49:19 GMT
Yup, I did. I didn't like my post and tried to delete it. Warburton manages and thats his prerogative. I tried to delete my own post but the whole thread came tumbling down. A mistake of course. My shame prevented me admitting it.
But I see it has agitated a number of fine people and for that I humbly apologize. I seek the boards forgiveness and if not I can understand.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 1, 2021 18:38:56 GMT
Well, I had almost hoped it was a technical glitch. The exodus of 2020 that Wembley referred to above was because a mod on this site used his advantageous administrative position to promote his own views whilst others were blocked from doing so. The subject matter of the thread caused more consternation than anything else in my time here, but not for some with longer memories or experiences. A very good friend of mine, plus several who I respected, made the decision that they could no longer participate in the board and some migrated to Clive's LFW. They left making it very clear about their views of the board's administrator(s). I would think that the role of a mod on this board is easier than any of the other QPR boards because posters behave themselves on here generally, and we are all grateful to Mac (Mike) for keeping the board going. So, I accept your apology London (Harry) and hope others can do the same as well - you do good work on here and it is a pleasure assisting you with the Prediction League. However, can I respectfully suggest that the few remaining mods on here, stop operating in isolation or self interest and not make arbitrary decisions i.e. before deleting a thread, blocking a thread, or censoring / chastising a poster and that instead you talk to one another off-line so that you make a policy / collective judgement. Good posters were upset and offended back in 2020, I am not sure that the board can withstand another similar upset. Harry, I am not sure if you have done so already, but I would also suggest that you PM Wembley, even though he said he would not read it. Right, now let's beat Preston, I think I have enough petrol!
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Post by LifeR on Oct 2, 2021 1:10:48 GMT
Not that I want to hijack this thread but I think its important to let people know that for me this board is superb. There are some really interesting comments and posts, I find the people on here friendly and willing to discuss topics and will listing to views. I wasn't here in its heyday but right now its one of my favourite sites Well said sir. Can only echo your sentiments.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 2, 2021 11:23:10 GMT
Not I, Was an interesting read.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 2, 2021 15:31:02 GMT
The "exodus of 2020" as so put, was highly regrettable. And obviously could have been handled better by me. I've always hoped that people would judge the board overall not on one or two things. And especially judge the board based on what I might post - and how others post. And obviously people have to do what they decide to do.
Re Censorship - The irony is that except when we were being attacked (years ago)...Or spam. Or truly racist/anti-semitic and other like stuff (when I see it). There is no view. But again I'm not trying to persuade anyone.
As for lack of activity. Again there is nothing can do about not posting.
Obviously the site is not what it was in its heyday. But that's true of quite a few sites. And the bottom line for me was: Sure it might be a little "humiliating" not having a mass site. But why shut it down? It's not a financial burden to me.
And who knows: Maybe one day, this site will rise back up!
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Post by blatantfowl on Oct 2, 2021 16:07:42 GMT
Yup, I did. I didn't like my post and tried to delete it. Warburton manages and thats his prerogative. I tried to delete my own post but the whole thread came tumbling down. A mistake of course. My shame prevented me admitting it. But I see it has agitated a number of fine people and for that I humbly apologize. I seek the boards forgiveness and if not I can understand. No problem chum, you’ve done more for this board than most and yer alright by me 👍🏻
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Post by blatantfowl on Oct 2, 2021 16:10:13 GMT
Not that I want to hijack this thread but I think its important to let people know that for me this board is superb. There are some really interesting comments and posts, I find the people on here friendly and willing to discuss topics and will listing to views. I wasn't here in its heyday but right now its one of my favourite sites Spot on. It’s an excellent board and I check it most days. It takes a lot to get me pi$$ed at someone but if it happens I tell them and then move on. I’d expect them to do the same.
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