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Post by rickyqpr on Mar 29, 2021 19:01:15 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Mar 30, 2021 10:19:09 GMT
If you have trouble with the link expiring, try this one. https://planning-lbhounslow.msapppro...NO=P/2020/3898
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 31, 2021 8:44:18 GMT
Thanks RickyQPR
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Post by Marc on Mar 31, 2021 20:14:27 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2021 8:13:05 GMT
Very good news, a great step forward. It will mean of course that the huge expenditure on Warren Farm will need to be written off in the accounts this year-end. As capital and academy expenditure, it will not form part of the FFP calculation and will probably be disclosed as an exceptional item, but will still add to the cumulative losses of QPR and the current owners pain. It is pretty incredible the money that has gone down the pan at QPR, but today we should rejoice in a positive outcome. Just a thought about local councils and residents... Ealing Council tried everything to assist QPR - the residents fought an expensive legal battle and won. Hounslow Council were apparently very co-operative, and the club engaged in a consultation process with the local residents. Successful outcome. Hammersmith & Fulham and the new stadium... very little council help, poor communication, poor history of relations, complicated residential issues at LCS - a long expensive road ahead... Time to talk to Ealing and Hounslow again about an alternative stadium perhaps?
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 2, 2021 9:38:45 GMT
Very good news, a great step forward. It will mean of course that the huge expenditure on Warren Farm will need to be written off in the accounts this year-end. As capital and academy expenditure, it will not form part of the FFP calculation and will probably be disclosed as an exceptional item, but will still add to the cumulative losses of QPR and the current owners pain. It is pretty incredible the money that has gone down the pan at QPR, but today we should rejoice in a positive outcome. Just a thought about local councils and residents... Ealing Council tried everything to assist QPR - the residents fought an expensive legal battle and won. Hounslow Council were apparently very co-operative, and the club engaged in a consultation process with the local residents. Successful outcome. Hammersmith & Fulham and the new stadium... very little council help, poor communication, poor history of relations, complicated residential issues at LCS - a long expensive road ahead... Time to talk to Ealing and Hounslow again about an alternative stadium perhaps? Park Royal is currently decimated by HS2 work and depots. I wonder if Ealing land will become available at some point. Probably a long way away, but we will probably still be waiting on LCS even then.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 14, 2022 13:52:34 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Apr 14, 2022 14:51:15 GMT
Now here's an idea. We join forces with Southall and get permission to build a 30k stadium together - and then we can ground share with them and use them as a feeder club for young talent. The dog walkers must be jumping with joy - another 5 to 10 years for them to fight the good fight to stop progress. Interesting to note that the Mayor of Ealing accepted the position of "Patron of Southall F.C. in November last year, not that he has any influence over the council..........maybe a slight conflict of interest.
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Post by LifeR on Apr 14, 2022 16:17:30 GMT
Now here's an idea. We join forces with Southall and get permission to build a 30k stadium together - and then we can ground share with them and use them as a feeder club for young talent. The dog walkers must be jumping with joy - another 5 to 10 years for them to fight the good fight to stop progress. Interesting to note that the Mayor of Ealing accepted the position of "Patron of Southall F.C. in November last year, not that he has any influence over the council..........maybe a slight conflict of interest. Really like this notion for many, many reasons. At this point creative solutions such as this are warranted. (even if this particular plan has no legs) Better than the ongoing futility for the club to consider something of this nature. Further afield, Ruislip, Hillingdon, Slough. Just throwing this out for discussion. H and F have been relentlessly unhelpful by all accounts. Lets go somewhere we are actually wanted
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Post by stylecouncillor on Apr 14, 2022 18:59:52 GMT
We weren't exactly wanted at Warren Farm.
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Post by robindubois on Apr 15, 2022 8:15:54 GMT
Now here's an idea. We join forces with Southall and get permission to build a 30k stadium together - and then we can ground share with them and use them as a feeder club for young talent. The dog walkers must be jumping with joy - another 5 to 10 years for them to fight the good fight to stop progress. Interesting to note that the Mayor of Ealing accepted the position of "Patron of Southall F.C. in November last year, not that he has any influence over the council..........maybe a slight conflict of interest. Really like this notion for many, many reasons. At this point creative solutions such as this are warranted. (even if this particular plan has no legs) Better than the ongoing futility for the club to consider something of this nature. Further afield, Ruislip, Hillingdon, Slough. Just throwing this out for discussion. H and F have been relentlessly unhelpful by all accounts. Lets go somewhere we are actually wanted While my comment was slightly tongue in cheek I think it is the sort of idea that we should be looking at. In the case of Warren Farm I do not think we stand a chance because of past history but elsewhere maybe we do. I have the feeling that H&F and other close by local councils still have it the back of their minds that our Board are only in the club as a property development project. Car Giant have gone quiet - I wonder how they feel sitting on what they thought would be a gold mine that seems to have lost it's glitter. Meanwhile Lynford Christie stadium continues to fall apart. I think the big issue really is that football clubs are not welcome in the vast majority of places. If we look at somewhere with existing residential properties the local community do not want the disturbance of the crowds. If we look at a green field type location there is the issue of transport and/or environmental protests. To find somewhere who would welcome a football club it is more likely to be a run down area where the local economy could benefit and where we could add on community facilities for the local population to use. Brentford managed it to a small extent but still not exactly a large capacity money spinning site suitable for the PL long term. The best bit of recent new ground development imo is Brighton - far enough away from local residential, transport easily fixed and a location that was not used for much. What would be interesting to see if Southall get permission to build, albeit smaller than we would require, is how much could they spend on developing the community aspects and what benefits would it bring. I expect far less than we would have done. In which case there must be a strong discussion how one club is blocked and another welcomed with open arms. Would that also open a case for us to claim compensation for the not insignificant amounts we spent on planning applications etc. I doubt it.
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Post by blatantfowl on Apr 15, 2022 9:02:27 GMT
It’s been a noble attempt by the board to only consider options in or about the borough but it’s futile.
Just go a few miles west towards Heathrow and there’s lots of options with better transport links. Local fans will be well served and there are many fans around the UK that would travel in far more easily.
In our origins we were nomadic. It’ll be sad to move away but it’s ok.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 15, 2022 10:13:58 GMT
Things have been pretty quiet - but none more so that the new stadium. Of course, we are ploughing money into Heston, but no stadium stories since pre-Covid really. The only hope is that Heston appeared from nowhere so perhaps a new stadium site could do the same, but as Robin said above, not easy to source. Nobody wants us.....and I don't blame them.
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Post by robindubois on Apr 15, 2022 10:24:13 GMT
Things have been pretty quiet - but none more so that the new stadium. Of course, we are ploughing money into Heston, but no stadium stories since pre-Covid really. The only hope is that Heston appeared from nowhere so perhaps a new stadium site could do the same, but as Robin said above, not easy to source. Nobody wants us.....and I don't blame them. Yes it has been very quiet - either we are working on something and keeping it quiet or maybe we have ground (no pun intended) to a halt. Of course the other issue is finance. If we can find the right location we may just be able to finance by the sale/development of Loftus Road but there are a few years in between when someone has to bridge the funding. The owners are putting enough in to keep the club afloat, but will or can they afford to go for a new stadium. Catch 22 because if we do not move we are not going anywhere on the pitch either. Pure economics. Now we recently acquired a new US shareholder...........thought bubble! If Derby can attract an investor surely we can - or maybe if we do it would be the wrong type.
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Post by LifeR on Apr 15, 2022 11:26:18 GMT
It’s been a noble attempt by the board to only consider options in or about the borough but it’s futile. Just go a few miles west towards Heathrow and there’s lots of options with better transport links. Local fans will be well served and there are many fans around the UK that would travel in far more easily. In our origins we were nomadic. It’ll be sad to move away but it’s ok. Yes, yes, yes. What was anathema a couple of years ago is now common sense.
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 15, 2022 12:43:22 GMT
But will we still be a London Club? (ANd does that matter? It does to me even though I'm far, far away)
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Post by robindubois on Apr 15, 2022 13:47:45 GMT
But will we still be a London Club? (ANd does that matter? It does to me even though I'm far, far away) The size of London these days Hounslow would count as being a London club to many people. Anything inside the M25 would count but I hope we do not end up by the Dartford Tunnel
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