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Post by Lonegunmen on Aug 4, 2020 2:23:34 GMT
If we want a striker - Patryk Klimala - Polish boy at Celtic Ooooohhh look, my Polish suggestion just scored for Celtic.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 4, 2020 7:08:54 GMT
'Football Insider' saying West Ham will seal a £16m deal for Eze...
Yeah, right...
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 4, 2020 7:48:35 GMT
The Eze transfer is being played out in public. Every step, even made up steps are released to the press. It is obvious that we need to sell him this window, and preferably early doors, so the club is trying to take the supporters along with them on the road. But in the end, it will be simple supply and demand and the market will determine his value. QPR start by announcing at least £20m required. But the reality is that before yesterday, there had only been late interest from Palace in January. Surely, that was not a serious bid at the time, just Palace being chancy. As much as QPR keep chucking out £20m price tags, ‘interested’ clubs chuck out much lower valuations. I have seen as low as £8m mentioned, I do not think QPR really expect to get £20m. So, the next step for QPR was to establish a base line bid, knowing they would reject it out of hand. This again sends the message to the fans that they have not accepted the first offer, but instead have driven the price up. It also tells other clubs that the process has started, so release a few other interested party names to the press at the same time. So, Palace have drawn the base line at £12m. Some are suggesting that the eventual price will be £16m – the half-way stopping off point. I think they may well be correct - £16m plus add-ons. I expect Palace to offer close to that next time around, or eventually. But I think that QPR want Eze to go to West Ham. We seem to want Hugill back, and we do need a striker. So, I think Palace will establish the price and then West Ham will pay it. They want to sell Anderson back to Lazio to finance the deal and he is currently in Italy. He cost them £42m, so they must owe instalments that they wish to escape from under. So, if the deal to West Ham does involve Hugill it will completely mask how much we actually received for Eze – suiting both clubs and confusing the fans. Hugill could be worth anything up to £5m in any exchange and if we are to purchase him on wages within our wage policy, then he will arrive with a signing-on fee of circa £1m - £2m (we apparently only funded £15k pw of his £35k pw wages last season). I believe he still has two more seasons on his current massive West Ham contract. So, I I am prepared for a slow drive up to circa £16m with add-ons, with various clubs said to be interested, then a complicated exchange with West Ham with the fans none the wiser at the end of a very public auction. Long way to go, things may change if QPR can generate real interest and a bidding war, but I somehow doubt it and so that is how I see it today.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 4, 2020 8:03:19 GMT
First it was 20 million, then it was 16 Million, now it's 12 Million, chance of Les giving him away for 6 Million? I'd say they've just increased considerably. But all those numbers are from completely different places, though. The only thing we know is that we rejected a 12m bid, which is presumably us setting a base for future bids and that we are seeking something in the 20m region. Imagine the reality will be something in between, like Ricky was speculating. I don't how from those numbers you could conclude the chance of him going for 6m is likely.
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Post by harr on Aug 4, 2020 8:33:47 GMT
I would be happy with 16 Million minimum with add ons and a 30% sell on fee.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Aug 4, 2020 8:45:46 GMT
First it was 20 million, then it was 16 Million, now it's 12 Million, chance of Les giving him away for 6 Million? I'd say they've just increased considerably. But all those numbers are from completely different places, though. The only thing we know is that we rejected a 12m bid, which is presumably us setting a base for future bids and that we are seeking something in the 20m region. Imagine the reality will be something in between, like Ricky was speculating. I don't how from those numbers you could conclude the chance of him going for 6m is likely. I'm relying on the usual QPR give away prices throughout the last 30 years.
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Post by nomar on Aug 4, 2020 10:55:46 GMT
Things will be a lot clearer after tonight's playoff final.
If Fulham win then Benharama now comes into the equation for some of the teams looking at Eze.
If Brentford win then Benharama goes nowhere and Eze now becomes the number 1 Championship target.
Everything, I believe, hinges on Benharama. One way or the other both him and Eze are, fully deservedly, going to be Premier League players next season.
Just depends who for.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 4, 2020 13:54:23 GMT
The Eze transfer is being played out in public. Every step, even made up steps are released to the press. It is obvious that we need to sell him this window, and preferably early doors, so the club is trying to take the supporters along with them on the road. But in the end, it will be simple supply and demand and the market will determine his value. QPR start by announcing at least £20m required. But the reality is that before yesterday, there had only been late interest from Palace in January. Surely, that was not a serious bid at the time, just Palace being chancy. As much as QPR keep chucking out £20m price tags, ‘interested’ clubs chuck out much lower valuations. I have seen as low as £8m mentioned, I do not think QPR really expect to get £20m. So, the next step for QPR was to establish a base line bid, knowing they would reject it out of hand. This again sends the message to the fans that they have not accepted the first offer, but instead have driven the price up. It also tells other clubs that the process has started, so release a few other interested party names to the press at the same time. So, Palace have drawn the base line at £12m. Some are suggesting that the eventual price will be £16m – the half-way stopping off point. I think they may well be correct - £16m plus add-ons. I expect Palace to offer close to that next time around, or eventually. But I think that QPR want Eze to go to West Ham. We seem to want Hugill back, and we do need a striker. So, I think Palace will establish the price and then West Ham will pay it. They want to sell Anderson back to Lazio to finance the deal and he is currently in Italy. He cost them £42m, so they must owe instalments that they wish to escape from under. So, if the deal to West Ham does involve Hugill it will completely mask how much we actually received for Eze – suiting both clubs and confusing the fans. Hugill could be worth anything up to £5m in any exchange and if we are to purchase him on wages within our wage policy, then he will arrive with a signing-on fee of circa £1m - £2m (we apparently only funded £15k pw of his £35k pw wages last season). I believe he still has two more seasons on his current massive West Ham contract. So, I I am prepared for a slow drive up to circa £16m with add-ons, with various clubs said to be interested, then a complicated exchange with West Ham with the fans none the wiser at the end of a very public auction. Long way to go, things may change if QPR can generate real interest and a bidding war, but I somehow doubt it and so that is how I see it today. Maybe I am misreading this post but it sounds like it says QPR are manipulating the press to mislead the fans into thinking that the club are holding out for a larger fee than they know they will settle for just to keep the fans happy. As in any transfer situation I would expect the selling club to be publicly quoting as high a fee as possible and give themselves some hope of making it and if not give themselves room for negotiation. Thats what negotiations are about - not fooling the fans. If we were issuing statements saying we will let Eze go for 16 million or 12 million we would be shooting ourselves in the foot. At the end of the day the fee is going to be "undisclosed" and if it involves a part exchange for Hugill for example it will be even less clear. If a deal goes through as undisclosed I expect to see a range of numbers being thrown around - The Sir Les haters and trolls will probably be saying we gave him away for 8 million while more balanced fans will be quoting nearer an actual price but accepting that under current circumstances that was the best we could do. It takes two to tango and I just do not buy the constant comments that we always give away our players too cheaply. A player is only worth what other clubs are prepared to pay, and if we believe the rumours about our alleged targets we are also playing the same game with low bids. The transfer market is still evolving and I doubt anyone really knows the true value of any player at the moment. With many clubs knowing they have to cut their squads or get players off the pay roll just to survive transfer values are going to be hit. The multi million fees among the Champions League teams will no doubt continue for a short while but even those will come under very close scrutiny as the economic situation becomes clearer and increasingly worse than it already is. EDIT - Just saw that Chelsea are making one third of their first team squad available for transfer - watch that space. I believe that we are saying the same thing. This is a standard negotiation with the seller stating an aspiration and the buyer starting low. The market will determine the final price and that will be driven by competing bids. The additional point that I made was that our club feel the need to manage the fanbase as there is much scientism about their ability to negotiate a fair price. By comparison, Brentford fans do not generally share such feelings. As you say, the Les haters will be all over it, so the need to manage the fanbase is real - and not wrong. Because we started at £20m, there will be a reaction from some of failure if we settle for £16m. I was just highlighting that I do not believe that such a sum would be failure, just a consequence of simple economics.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 4, 2020 13:58:54 GMT
Things will be a lot clearer after tonight's playoff final. If Fulham win then Benharama now comes into the equation for some of the teams looking at Eze. If Brentford win then Benharama goes nowhere and Eze now becomes the number 1 Championship target. Everything, I believe, hinges on Benharama. One way or the other both him and Eze are, fully deservedly, going to be Premier League players next season. Just depends who for. I agree. Of course if Benharama is sold by Brentford then it would form an interesting benchmark valuation for Eze. Brentford's good reputation regarding outgoing valuations will be properly tested post lockdown.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 4, 2020 14:12:07 GMT
SSN -EZE BID NUMBERS REVEALED
We bought you the news last night that Crystal Palace have had a bid in excess of £12m rejected by QPR for Eberechi Eze.
The breakdown of the offer was £8m plus £4m in add-ons, but QPR value Eze at closer to £20m.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Aug 5, 2020 5:34:25 GMT
oh, only 8 mill to kick off with. I said it smelt in a previous thread.
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Post by harr on Aug 5, 2020 6:52:54 GMT
We have to be a realistic here though that Covid, yes that horrid new C word is still about, not going to go anywhere and could have a big affect on transfer fees this summer and next.
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Post by sharky on Aug 5, 2020 11:39:39 GMT
Last week this thread was full of £30 mil for Eze. Now talk of £8 mil. Next week...
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Post by nomar on Aug 5, 2020 11:59:13 GMT
Last week this thread was full of £30 mil for Eze. Now talk of £8 mil. Next week... It will probably be undisclosed fee, but I think it'll be in the £16-18m region. Hopefully with a sell on clause too, because if he applies himself he's going to be an England International and play for a top 6 side. He really is that damn good.
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Post by sharky on Aug 5, 2020 12:17:08 GMT
From WLS on 30 July www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-interested-in-chelsea-youngster-izzy-brown-transer-newsQPR interested in Chelsea’s BrownBy West London Sport 30/07/2020 QPR are interested in Chelsea’s Izzy Brown. The 23-year-old has just completed a season on loan at Luton Town. It was Brown’s sixth loan move since joining Chelsea, who signed him from West Bromwich Albion in 2013. He played Premier League football during a loan spell at Brighton, which was cut short by a long-term knee injury. Brown has also been on loan at Leeds, Huddersfield, Rotherham and Dutch club Vitesse Arnhem. He has a year remaining on his contract at Chelsea, who are considering his options for next season. Brown, who is primarily an attacking midfielder but can also operate up front or as a winger, has made one first-team appearance for the Blues – against West Brom. His career so far has been hampered by injury problems. He joined Leeds on a season-long loan while still recovering from the anterior cruciate ligament damage which ended his time at Brighton. Brown made just one league appearance for the Yorkshire club – as a late substitute against QPR – and managed 17 Championship starts during his season at Luton. Meanwhile, Crystal Palace were last night considering matching Club Brugge’s £4.7m bid for QPR winger Bright Osayi-Samuel, who has been discussing personal terms with the Belgain club.
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Post by sharky on Aug 5, 2020 16:28:53 GMT
From Transfer Tavern www.footballtransfertavern.com/sunderland-transfer-rumours/sunderland-charlie-goode-transfer-blow-qpr/Sunderland: Charlie Goode set for Queens Park Rangers move as Black Cats miss outBy Ben Crump Posted on August 5, 2020 Sunderland: Charlie Goode set for Queens Park Rangers move as Black Cats miss out - Sunderland Transfer Rumours Sunderland are set to miss out on Charlie Goode after a football agent claimed on Twitter that the Northampton Town defender is set to join Queens Park Rangers. Black Cats manager Phil Parkinson is seemingly desperate to bolster his squad options this summer ahead of the 2020/21 season as pressure continues to mount after failing to gain promotion from League One. Having already sealed the double signing of Bailey Wright and Aiden O’Brien, Goode had emerged as a potential arrival on Wearside after an impressive season with Northampton Town. The Cobblers captain led his team to promotion from League Two last month via the play-off final and his performances initially led to interest from a whole host of Championship clubs, with Sky Sports‘ northeast correspondent Keith Downie reporting the news. With interest starting to develop in the £1m-valued defender, QPR now seem to have won the race for his signature. Football columnist and agent Michael Vennerholm has claimed that a deal is set to be announced in the coming hours with a transfer fee of £1m said to have been enough to lure the defender to the Championship club. QPR’s Championship rivals Preston North End and Blackburn Rovers were also keen to pursue the defender
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Post by nomar on Aug 5, 2020 20:38:31 GMT
Palace apparently are in for Bournemouth wide man Ryan Fraser who is out of contract. Supposedly they will offer to double his salary to about 50k a week. If they get him for free (well maybe a signing on fee of a million or 2) I think the talk of Palace going for BOS or Eze will start to fade apart from in the click bait sections of the press. I am slowly coming round to the idea that Eze might stay another season with us. We would be happy to keep him and with another year on his contract after this season he will still be a saleable asset in 12 months time. Hopefully by then he will have a bigger reputation and in a hopefully less depressed transfer market would probably command a bigger fee than now. The down side of my optimism is that I do not know how desperate we are for some cash now and whether we can afford to pick up the strikers and central defender we are looking for. If we can get the figures being quoted from Brugge for BOS that would help but how much if any of that fee could go back into transfers rather than just paying the wages for a couple of months. I hear you, but I’m pretty certain now that Eze is going. As much as I’d love him to stay, there’s no way I see him and Benrahma playing Championship football next season. If you were a mid to lower table Prem club and you could get Eze now for £16M or Benrahma for £22M what would you do? Seriously. It’s a no brainier.
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Post by nomar on Aug 6, 2020 10:06:02 GMT
I hear you, but I’m pretty certain now that Eze is going. As much as I’d love him to stay, there’s no way I see him and Benrahma playing Championship football next season. If you were a mid to lower table Prem club and you could get Eze now for £16M or Benrahma for £22M what would you do? Seriously. It’s a no brainier. Yeap - probably wishful thinking on my part. Interesting that Brentford have already put a 50million price tag to sell 2 of their 3 front men which puts our 20million plus for Eze demand at about the right level. It may even help us get a bit more than we expect. The ceiling Eze has, if he stays healthy and develops as he should, even £20M will be considered a steal in a few years time. That's why Prem clubs would be wise to get him now. Another good season in the Championship and you'd potentially probably need to pay another £10M on top of that.
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Post by nomar on Aug 6, 2020 11:14:32 GMT
The ceiling Eze has, if he stays healthy and develops as he should, even £20M will be considered a steal in a few years time. That's why Prem clubs would be wise to get him now. Another good season in the Championship and you'd potentially probably need to pay another £10M on top of that. Agree completely - that's why the thought of keeping him for another season and getting 10 million more next year sounds so good. My worse nightmare though would be Eze going to Fulham - at any price that cannot happen . No rumours on that yet but I bet someone will come up with one soon. Apparently West Brom are interested, Arsenal been suggested too. I would love to see him at Arsenal he's perfect for the gunners imo. Suggestions are that Fulham are interested in Benrahama. Not sure how true that is. Palace are the only ones who have definitely put a bid in though. Understandable, as they will be selling Zaha and Eze would be an upgrade imo.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 6, 2020 11:32:01 GMT
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Post by sharky on Aug 6, 2020 13:07:15 GMT
Tried hard but Championship football seemed to be above his level. League 1 will be more to his liking IMO
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Post by sharky on Aug 6, 2020 14:17:29 GMT
Apparently West Brom are interested, Arsenal been suggested too. I would love to see him at Arsenal he's perfect for the gunners imo. agree re Arsenal - WBA swap for Charlie Austin would fill part of our striker hole - if he stays fit. I love Charlie and what he did for us but big IF he stays fit. Quite injury prone and was used off the bench a lot by WBA this season.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 6, 2020 14:25:06 GMT
Agree completely - that's why the thought of keeping him for another season and getting 10 million more next year sounds so good. My worse nightmare though would be Eze going to Fulham - at any price that cannot happen . No rumours on that yet but I bet someone will come up with one soon. Apparently West Brom are interested, Arsenal been suggested too. I would love to see him at Arsenal he's perfect for the gunners imo. Suggestions are that Fulham are interested in Benrahama. Not sure how true that is. Palace are the only ones who have definitely put a bid in though. Understandable, as they will be selling Zaha and Eze would be an upgrade imo. Would say on the comparisons with Benrahma (nicking someone else's point I read), both are attacking and highly rated Championship players destined to go higher, but they fill very different gaps. Eze is exceptional but in a niche - he fits a very specific 10-style that is the missing piece to a team puzzle that less teams are trying to fill. Still worth plenty of cash and invaluable to the right club, but think there are less clubs he could slot into than Benrahma.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 6, 2020 17:08:58 GMT
...agree re Arsenal - WBA swap for Charlie Austin would fill part of our striker hole - if he stays fit. Eze swap for Charlie Austin!!?? No way. Charlie + £18m maybe...
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Post by nomar on Aug 6, 2020 17:57:52 GMT
Apparently West Brom are interested, Arsenal been suggested too. I would love to see him at Arsenal he's perfect for the gunners imo. agree re Arsenal - WBA swap for Charlie Austin would fill part of our striker hole - if he stays fit. I don’t think we’d be getting anywhere near the same Charlie Austin back as the one that left us, sadly. I’d rather move on and get Hugill back if possible.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Aug 7, 2020 3:24:51 GMT
I'd rather have Naki Wells than Hugill.
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Aug 7, 2020 11:02:28 GMT
We want Amos on permanent and might be in on the deal to bring Eze to Spurs! Would Amos and Camer-Vickers + 12 mill be a good deal for us?
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 7, 2020 11:20:19 GMT
We want Amos on permanent and might be in on the deal to bring Eze to Spurs! Would Amos and Camer-Vickers + 12 mill be a good deal for us? Although Warnock is apparently trying to nab Amos for Boro...
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Aug 7, 2020 12:03:20 GMT
We want Amos on permanent and might be in on the deal to bring Eze to Spurs! Would Amos and Camer-Vickers + 12 mill be a good deal for us? Although Warnock is apparently trying to nab Amos for Boro... If a deal is there to be done Spurs will tell Neil to “ move along now.. nothing to see here!”
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Post by harr on Aug 7, 2020 16:09:40 GMT
From Transfer Tavern www.footballtransfertavern.com/sunderland-transfer-rumours/sunderland-charlie-goode-transfer-blow-qpr/Sunderland: Charlie Goode set for Queens Park Rangers move as Black Cats miss outBy Ben Crump Posted on August 5, 2020 Sunderland: Charlie Goode set for Queens Park Rangers move as Black Cats miss out - Sunderland Transfer Rumours Sunderland are set to miss out on Charlie Goode after a football agent claimed on Twitter that the Northampton Town defender is set to join Queens Park Rangers. Black Cats manager Phil Parkinson is seemingly desperate to bolster his squad options this summer ahead of the 2020/21 season as pressure continues to mount after failing to gain promotion from League One. Having already sealed the double signing of Bailey Wright and Aiden O’Brien, Goode had emerged as a potential arrival on Wearside after an impressive season with Northampton Town. The Cobblers captain led his team to promotion from League Two last month via the play-off final and his performances initially led to interest from a whole host of Championship clubs, with Sky Sports‘ northeast correspondent Keith Downie reporting the news. With interest starting to develop in the £1m-valued defender, QPR now seem to have won the race for his signature. Football columnist and agent Michael Vennerholm has claimed that a deal is set to be announced in the coming hours with a transfer fee of £1m said to have been enough to lure the defender to the Championship club. QPR’s Championship rivals Preston North End and Blackburn Rovers were also keen to pursue the defender Well this 'in the know agent' either was not in the know or the announcement is coming by pigeon post! That guy is quite well known as being not that in the know. saying that he will probably be announced at 10 AM in the morning
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