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Post by Marc on Aug 21, 2019 18:10:54 GMT
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Post by rangersman on Aug 21, 2019 19:24:49 GMT
I forgot about tonights game, just looked and we are 1 down at home already, so begins another dreary season PMSL innit fun with QPR ?
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Post by rangersman on Aug 21, 2019 19:25:20 GMT
Get Kelly on before we are killed off.
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Post by londonranger on Aug 21, 2019 19:56:16 GMT
We are not used to playing on Wednesday night.
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Post by rangersman on Aug 21, 2019 20:06:28 GMT
We are not used to playing on Wednesday night. That could be it yes
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Post by londonranger on Aug 21, 2019 20:10:06 GMT
Tuesday and Saturday all we can digest. Though decades ago, I went to a Wednesday game and getting off the Central Line, had to direct a couple of fans, out of town, to Loftus Rd. Think we were in the Prem or Div 1, the old name.
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Post by londonranger on Aug 21, 2019 20:12:04 GMT
Blimey, we equalized.
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Post by rangersman on Aug 21, 2019 20:42:41 GMT
All downhill all of a sudden
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Post by nomar on Aug 21, 2019 20:42:41 GMT
We are far, far too easy to score against.
Teams don’t have to work hard for goals, we f’n gift goals to them.
Nice pretty passing football, no end product. Oh well, we’ll be the most attractive League one team next season.
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Post by rangersman on Aug 21, 2019 20:43:21 GMT
Terrible, just terrible
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Post by vofster on Aug 21, 2019 20:46:32 GMT
Stole match seems a long time ago. Did well to get back into it and had the momentum after the equaliser but such soft goals to give away!
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Post by harr on Aug 21, 2019 20:54:17 GMT
Just another season like the others then, dominate games , can’t score goals when we do dominate and concede with utter ease. Found our place in the table already. First time I’ve been angry this year
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Post by nomar on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:34 GMT
Just another season like the others then, dominate games , can’t score goals when we do dominate and concede with utter ease. Found our place in the table already. First time I’ve been angry this year Hope quickly extinguished. Here we are in another relegation scrap. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Post by londonranger on Aug 21, 2019 21:30:55 GMT
La plus sa change la plus sa meme chose.
But Swansea are an upper table team.
Hate to boast about it, I predicted a 3-1 loss.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 21, 2019 22:07:43 GMT
I think that was one of the craziest games I have been to for a good while. QPR were the better side throughout. The Swansea opener came from a QPR corner, Swansea's first shot on goal, waiting for a break away. Amos went down in the tackle (and went off injured) leaving Swansea two against one. Back came QPR and it was totally one way traffic - the equaliser was well deserved. Then straight up the other end and a penalty awarded - it was behind the pillar so i could not see it live. Then more QPR pressure, another break away, Scowen and Kane run to the same man leaving the other guy free to cross from the by-line for a simple nod home. Swansea - 3 shots , 3 goals, truly amazing. We had shots cleared off the line, hit the woodwork etc. It was just one of those games. We will play far worse and win. But if I want to criticize, my worry is that I am not sure how Hugill fits into the team. He reminded me of Hmaed last season. QPR break at speed and play some lovely football but then there is no one in the middle or Hugill is well marked and it comes to nothing. He also was given off side so many times. But as all the subs were on for the last 40 minutes, Wells could not replace him. On to Wigan.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 21, 2019 22:47:48 GMT
I think that was one of the craziest games I have been to for a good while. QPR were the better side throughout. The Swansea opener came from a QPR corner, Swansea's first shot on goal, waiting for a break away. Amos went down in the tackle (and went off injured) leaving Swansea two against one. Back came QPR and it was totally one way traffic - the equaliser was well deserved. Then straight up the other end and a penalty awarded - it was behind the pillar so i could not see it live. Then more QPR pressure, another break away, Scowen and Kane run to the same man leaving the other guy free to cross from the by-line for a simple nod home. Swansea - 3 shots , 3 goals, truly amazing. We had shots cleared off the line, hit the woodwork etc. It was just one of those games. We will play far worse and win. But if I want to criticize, my worry is that I am not sure how Hugill fits into the team. He reminded me of Hmaed last season. QPR break at speed and play some lovely football but then there is no one in the middle or Hugill is well marked and it comes to nothing. He also was given off side so many times. But as all the subs were on for the last 40 minutes, Wells could not replace him. On to Wigan. Nice one on the report, sounds a very weird and frustrating game.
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Post by nomar on Aug 22, 2019 5:05:47 GMT
I think that was one of the craziest games I have been to for a good while. QPR were the better side throughout. The Swansea opener came from a QPR corner, Swansea's first shot on goal, waiting for a break away. Amos went down in the tackle (and went off injured) leaving Swansea two against one. Back came QPR and it was totally one way traffic - the equaliser was well deserved. Then straight up the other end and a penalty awarded - it was behind the pillar so i could not see it live. Then more QPR pressure, another break away, Scowen and Kane run to the same man leaving the other guy free to cross from the by-line for a simple nod home. Swansea - 3 shots , 3 goals, truly amazing. We had shots cleared off the line, hit the woodwork etc. It was just one of those games. We will play far worse and win. But if I want to criticize, my worry is that I am not sure how Hugill fits into the team. He reminded me of Hmaed last season. QPR break at speed and play some lovely football but then there is no one in the middle or Hugill is well marked and it comes to nothing. He also was given off side so many times. But as all the subs were on for the last 40 minutes, Wells could not replace him. On to Wigan. My worry is that we have lots of possession in areas that don’t hurt other teams and we are far too easy to score against. Pretty football is nice but if you’re continually losing games eventually you get fed up with it. Warbs may not like Leistner because he can’t play the Barcelona way, but you know what? He clears the danger. Sometimes you need a defender whose not going to pussyfoot around with in in his own box but is just going to hoof it as far away from danger as possible. I see no organiser in our defence and too many times already, once we’ve conceded that players are there with their arms outstretched holding their own individual post-mortems. It’s lovely watching football played the right way,. But it’s better watching your team actually win some games,. Also, re Hugill. Not his fault. He needs someone up there with him. Bright gets to the byline and there’s no one in the box other than Hugill. Everything happens behind him. Players need to support him. If he gets the service he’ll score goals but he needs Chair, ideally, to be up front with him and draw defenders away and we need to get men in the box. He’s got a thankless task at the moment, having to do the lone man up front bit on his own.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 22, 2019 7:06:07 GMT
I think that was one of the craziest games I have been to for a good while. QPR were the better side throughout. The Swansea opener came from a QPR corner, Swansea's first shot on goal, waiting for a break away. Amos went down in the tackle (and went off injured) leaving Swansea two against one. Back came QPR and it was totally one way traffic - the equaliser was well deserved. Then straight up the other end and a penalty awarded - it was behind the pillar so i could not see it live. Then more QPR pressure, another break away, Scowen and Kane run to the same man leaving the other guy free to cross from the by-line for a simple nod home. Swansea - 3 shots , 3 goals, truly amazing. We had shots cleared off the line, hit the woodwork etc. It was just one of those games. We will play far worse and win. But if I want to criticize, my worry is that I am not sure how Hugill fits into the team. He reminded me of Hmaed last season. QPR break at speed and play some lovely football but then there is no one in the middle or Hugill is well marked and it comes to nothing. He also was given off side so many times. But as all the subs were on for the last 40 minutes, Wells could not replace him. On to Wigan. My worry is that we have lots of possession in areas that don’t hurt other teams and we are far too easy to score against. Pretty football is nice but if you’re continually losing games eventually you get fed up with it. Warbs may not like Leistner because he can’t play the Barcelona way, but you know what? He clears the danger. Sometimes you need a defender whose not going to pussyfoot around with in in his own box but is just going to hoof it as far away from danger as possible. I see no organiser in our defence and too many times already, once we’ve conceded that players are there with their arms outstretched holding their own individual post-mortems. It’s lovely watching football played the right way,. But it’s better watching your team actually win some games,. Also, re Hugill. Not his fault. He needs someone up there with him. Bright gets to the byline and there’s no one in the box other than Hugill. Everything happens behind him. Players need to support him. If he gets the service he’ll score goals but he needs Chair, ideally, to be up front with him and draw defenders away and we need to get men in the box. He’s got a thankless task at the moment, having to do the lone man up front bit on his own. Don't really disagree with the above, but our dominance did deserve a second goal and the timing of their goals was very unfortunate. Hugill - I remarked to my friend that he never seems to be in the right place and I think it is something to do with his movement. He was collecting the ball deep so there was no target and was wandering off side. The movement from Wells is superior even if his finishing may not be. At the back, I think that Barbet is yet to settle and seems to have as many errors in him as Lynch did. His distribution is superior, but he has been involved in several penalties, air shots and blood rushes. I think that McKenna would have been in the position by now, but that is 'ifs' 'and maybes'. Still think we were unfortunate though.
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Post by kenthoop on Aug 22, 2019 8:51:44 GMT
a lot of bad calls by official My Paul Tierney nailed on penalty but not given he is useless in the Premier League and useless in the Championship in fact he is useless whoever he officiates rant over
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Post by harr on Aug 22, 2019 9:24:26 GMT
Funny how we have picked up four points from two of the teams in the bottom three that everyone else has picked up lots of points from but guess that’s what we need to do.
I was really hoping for fortress Loftus Road this season, early days, lots of new players , settling in, bonding, gelling, same old words every year and same results....
Would really love us to start killing teams off when we get good spells of possession, not just huffing and puffing and conceding like we do.
Think we will score goals this year, see us letting in more than we score though, bit like the Ramsey season.
Praying for three points against Wigan
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Post by nomar on Aug 22, 2019 10:46:22 GMT
Last night was frustrating and deeply disappointing in equal measures.
But enough already about the wife!
Joking aside, I’m sat on our balcony here in Malta soaking up the sun and a glass of Kinnie, so all is good and roll on Wigan now.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 22, 2019 10:54:00 GMT
Funny how we have picked up four points from two of the teams in the bottom three that everyone else has picked up lots of points from but guess that’s what we need to do. I was really hoping for fortress Loftus Road this season, early days, lots of new players , settling in, bonding, gelling, same old words every year and same results.... Would really love us to start killing teams off when we get good spells of possession, not just huffing and puffing and conceding like we do. Think we will score goals this year, see us letting in more than we score though, bit like the Ramsey season. Praying for three points against Wigan I really don't like or understand the double standards on the meaning of our results. Get points against two teams which "everyone" else does (there's been four league games), no positives to be drawn. Lose two, against the teams currently in second and seventh, people are talking relegation and how everything is the same. You can't have it both ways, where wins are devalued and losses tell us everything. It's been four games - this time last season, the transfer window was still open. Look at the Championship table this time last year. Norwich were 20th. Bolton were 6th. Middlesbrough were top. I am the first person to say that this season could end up being awful. But none of us really have any real idea how this season is going to pan out with a new manager, new style of play and over a dozen new faces. Can we just even go a month without us getting all Mystic Meg about it? There's being happy-clappy, there's being realistic and then there's only drawing conclusions from negatives. And if we only do the latter, it's going to make this place and following the team attritional and needlessly worse than it really needs to be.
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Post by nomar on Aug 22, 2019 11:52:29 GMT
Funny how we have picked up four points from two of the teams in the bottom three that everyone else has picked up lots of points from but guess that’s what we need to do. I was really hoping for fortress Loftus Road this season, early days, lots of new players , settling in, bonding, gelling, same old words every year and same results.... Would really love us to start killing teams off when we get good spells of possession, not just huffing and puffing and conceding like we do. Think we will score goals this year, see us letting in more than we score though, bit like the Ramsey season. Praying for three points against Wigan I really don't like or understand the double standards on the meaning of our results. Get points against two teams which "everyone" else does (there's been four league games), no positives to be drawn. Lose two, against the teams currently in second and seventh, people are talking relegation and how everything is the same. You can't have it both ways, where wins are devalued and losses tell us everything. It's been four games - this time last season, the transfer window was still open. Look at the Championship table this time last year. Norwich were 20th. Bolton were 6th. Middlesbrough were top. I am the first person to say that this season could end up being awful. But none of us really have any real idea how this season is going to pan out with a new manager, new style of play and over a dozen new faces. Can we just even go a month without us getting all Mystic Meg about it? There's being happy-clappy, there's being realistic and then there's only drawing conclusions from negatives. And if we only do the latter, it's going to make this place and following the team attritional and needlessly worse than it really needs to be. Fair points.
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Post by harr on Aug 22, 2019 16:23:19 GMT
Funny how we have picked up four points from two of the teams in the bottom three that everyone else has picked up lots of points from but guess that’s what we need to do. I was really hoping for fortress Loftus Road this season, early days, lots of new players , settling in, bonding, gelling, same old words every year and same results.... Would really love us to start killing teams off when we get good spells of possession, not just huffing and puffing and conceding like we do. Think we will score goals this year, see us letting in more than we score though, bit like the Ramsey season. Praying for three points against Wigan I really don't like or understand the double standards on the meaning of our results. Get points against two teams which "everyone" else does (there's been four league games), no positives to be drawn. Lose two, against the teams currently in second and seventh, people are talking relegation and how everything is the same. You can't have it both ways, where wins are devalued and losses tell us everything. It's been four games - this time last season, the transfer window was still open. Look at the Championship table this time last year. Norwich were 20th. Bolton were 6th. Middlesbrough were top. I am the first person to say that this season could end up being awful. But none of us really have any real idea how this season is going to pan out with a new manager, new style of play and over a dozen new faces. Can we just even go a month without us getting all Mystic Meg about it? There's being happy-clappy, there's being realistic and then there's only drawing conclusions from negatives. And if we only do the latter, it's going to make this place and following the team attritional and needlessly worse than it really needs to be. All I’m stating is that our four points have come from two teams that are really struggling at the start. Wheres all this happy clappy stuff coming from, really. Hardly mystic meg.
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Post by rangersman on Aug 22, 2019 17:05:22 GMT
Barbet or whatever his name is has to go, our defence was a laughing stock. Toastman claims no one cuts our defence open !!!!! on that statement id say he is inept at management already. What a clown we have in charge.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 22, 2019 17:57:57 GMT
I really don't like or understand the double standards on the meaning of our results. Get points against two teams which "everyone" else does (there's been four league games), no positives to be drawn. Lose two, against the teams currently in second and seventh, people are talking relegation and how everything is the same. You can't have it both ways, where wins are devalued and losses tell us everything. It's been four games - this time last season, the transfer window was still open. Look at the Championship table this time last year. Norwich were 20th. Bolton were 6th. Middlesbrough were top. I am the first person to say that this season could end up being awful. But none of us really have any real idea how this season is going to pan out with a new manager, new style of play and over a dozen new faces. Can we just even go a month without us getting all Mystic Meg about it? There's being happy-clappy, there's being realistic and then there's only drawing conclusions from negatives. And if we only do the latter, it's going to make this place and following the team attritional and needlessly worse than it really needs to be. All I’m stating is that our four points have come from two teams that are really struggling at the start. Wheres all this happy clappy stuff coming from, really. Hardly mystic meg. It's a comment to points made in the thread already, not just you - I can see how that maybe wasn't clear though. Doesn't feel like it's just pointing it out considering the context though, after a home loss. Why is it funny and what does that mean? I'm just saying that you've got a season started off, with league and cup, that's 2 wins, a draw and 2 losses. Which ain't great but ain't that bad. Certainly a lot better than last year. But we are already on this MB talking about players who shouldn't play again and relegation battles and devaluing good and elevating the bad. The happy clappy point is just me saying that not laying into us doesn't mean I'm thinking everything is rosie. We're a club with problems. But yeah, just using your post as a jumping off point more than anything. Just a broader point that if people are getting so despondent so early on, it just fosters an arena for venting rather than discussion. Which is fine and people can do what they like, just personally find it bleak and less enjoyable innit. As Ricky says, we'll play worse than that and win this season. And we did Stoke because we played well, not just because they're struggling early doors. We go again.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 22, 2019 18:08:16 GMT
Barbet or whatever his name is has to go, our defence was a laughing stock. Toastman claims no one cuts our defence open !!!!! on that statement id say he is inept at management already. What a clown we have in charge. I feel at least that off the pitch, Warburton seems the most straight forward we've had in post match assessments in quite a while. Doesn't hide behind soundbites in the way McClaren did or in...whatever it was Holloway used to say after games. He doesn't seem to pick the easy 'get out of jail cards' from interviewers and criticises parts of our performance when we deserve it. So far anyway, it seems to be a lot less spin. Dunno what others think? I think like nomar said in the other thread, our early experience with Barbet seems proper mixed but his decision making for tackles in the box have been pretty poor. Personally think the two pens he's give away so far were pointless and avoidable. The one last night in particular with the Swansea player going away from goal was nonsensical - why has he dived in there? He had no chance of making that tackle cleanly, was Lynch-esque. I hope he can cut that out of his game. He's definitely decent with the ball at his feet and is key to how we now want to play it out from the back. But all the nice out balls in the world doesn't cover things if you give opponents needless pens. Fingers crossed.
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Post by harr on Aug 22, 2019 18:24:13 GMT
All I’m stating is that our four points have come from two teams that are really struggling at the start. Wheres all this happy clappy stuff coming from, really. Hardly mystic meg. It's a comment to points made in the thread already, not just you - I can see how that maybe wasn't clear though. Doesn't feel like it's just pointing it out considering the context though, after a home loss. Why is it funny and what does that mean? I'm just saying that you've got a season started off, with league and cup, that's 2 wins, a draw and 2 losses. Which ain't great but ain't that bad. Certainly a lot better than last year. But we are already on this MB talking about players who shouldn't play again and relegation battles and devaluing good and elevating the bad. The happy clappy point is just me saying that not laying into us doesn't mean I'm thinking everything is rosie. We're a club with problems. But yeah, just using your post as a jumping off point more than anything. Just a broader point that if people are getting so despondent so early on, it just fosters an arena for venting rather than discussion. Which is fine and people can do what they like, just personally find it bleak and less enjoyable innit. As Ricky says, we'll play worse than that and win this season. And we did Stoke because we played well, not just because they're struggling early doors. We go again. That’s fair enough Bow
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Post by bowranger on Aug 22, 2019 19:22:42 GMT
It's a comment to points made in the thread already, not just you - I can see how that maybe wasn't clear though. Doesn't feel like it's just pointing it out considering the context though, after a home loss. Why is it funny and what does that mean? I'm just saying that you've got a season started off, with league and cup, that's 2 wins, a draw and 2 losses. Which ain't great but ain't that bad. Certainly a lot better than last year. But we are already on this MB talking about players who shouldn't play again and relegation battles and devaluing good and elevating the bad. The happy clappy point is just me saying that not laying into us doesn't mean I'm thinking everything is rosie. We're a club with problems. But yeah, just using your post as a jumping off point more than anything. Just a broader point that if people are getting so despondent so early on, it just fosters an arena for venting rather than discussion. Which is fine and people can do what they like, just personally find it bleak and less enjoyable innit. As Ricky says, we'll play worse than that and win this season. And we did Stoke because we played well, not just because they're struggling early doors. We go again. That’s fair enough Bow Nice one, no drama .
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 22, 2019 20:03:24 GMT
Message boards are an emotional roller coaster. The extremes of winning and losing. Last night, our little old stadium was really rocking when we were pushing Swansea, it lifted the team. We were also pretty unlucky not to score. Chair played really well and deserved better luck. We should have had a penalty. That said, the keeper got 2 hands to our goal and should have kept it out. Point I guess I am making is that we could have won 2-1 last night and yet we also could have lost 3-0. Had we won 2-1, the message board would have been full of play-off talk and how we beat one of the best teams in the league. But, in reality the result says that we lost to a team that looked pretty ordinary but got the breaks on the night. Most have said that we need to take a view after 10 league games and I think that is fair. For me, I expected a much slower start, too many recruits so poor team cohesion, early panic and pressure. But I really enjoy the way we are playing this season and I really am not a happy clapper. I love the way BOS, Chair and Eze light up the supporters. I share concerns that Lumnley may struggle with the tactics, but he had no chance for the first 2 goals. As I said above, I think that had we signed McKenna then Barber may well have been starting at left back. He may not be quite the liability in that slot. But we didn't sign McKenna and we move on. If Barbet is the only concern from the many new recruits then we have done well. But I agree that he cannot keep lunging into the tackle. We are not good enough to come back from these errors as yet. But no reason to despair yet. We will postpone the opening of the wrists until 10 games in.
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