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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2019 11:38:19 GMT
From April 2019 - The last time we were looking for a new Manager. (I enjoyed that 3 year period of Managerial Stability)
Here are the QPR next manager odds in full via SkyBet:
Tim Sherwood 1/3
Mark Warburton 6/1
Gary Rowett 8/1
Gareth Ainsworth 8/1
Nigel Pearson 12/1
Steve Evans 14/1
Matt Gardiner 14/1
John Eustace 16/1
Michael Appleton 16/1
Brian McDermott 16/1
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Post by Marc on Apr 1, 2019 11:51:30 GMT
The usual suspects but it probably won't be any of them.
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Post by blatantfowl on Apr 1, 2019 12:24:54 GMT
We are still paying Holloway.
He should come back and finish off the season. We would win a few games.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2019 12:41:14 GMT
It truly defies all known logic.
Still paying IH and now no doubt will still be paying SM long after Britain has or hasn't finally decided what it actually is going to do about Brexit.
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 1, 2019 13:06:00 GMT
And Dave McIntyre - The Four in the Running Four in the running for QPR job after sacking of McClaren By David McIntyre 01/04/2019 Tim Sherwood, Gary Rowett, Mark Warburton and Michael Appleton are QPR’s initial top candidates to take over as manager. Rangers want to make a quick appointment following the departure of Steve McClaren, who was sacked on Monday after a run of 11 defeats in 14 league matches. Sherwood has long been the first-choice appointment of director of football Les Ferdinand, who worked with him at Tottenham. Rowett was also previously pursued by Ferdinand, in 2016, but stayed at Birmingham City, prompting QPR’s owners to bring back Ian Holloway for a second spell as manager at Loftus Road. Holloway was replaced by McClaren last May but the former England boss has himself been axed after winning just 16 of his 46 matches at the helm. Rowett is currently out of work after being sacked by Stoke City. The financial constraints Rangers are under mean they want a manager with ability to develop young players. Former Brentford boss Warburton, who has also managed Glasgow Rangers and Nottingham Forest, is well regarded in that respect. So too is Appleton, who has managed Blackburn, Portsmouth and Blackpool – all in troubled circumstances – and has more recently managed Oxford United and been assistant boss at Leicester City. Sherwood, meanwhile, achieved some success bringing through players at Tottenham, where he worked closely with Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey. Ramsey, now QPR technical director, ended up being given the manager’s job in 2015 after Ferdinand unsuccessfully tried to have Sherwood installed in place of Harry Redknapp. Click here to subscribe to West London Sp www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/four-in-the-running-for-qpr-job-after-sacking-of-mcclaren#.XKIL-glH5PQ.twitter
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Post by harr on Apr 1, 2019 13:19:11 GMT
Sherwood, please hell no. Going to take a miracle to turn around the current fortunes at QPR and probably other people need to go as well as SM.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2019 14:14:33 GMT
I suspect that plans are afoot to interview the 4 named by McIntyre. I also suspect that Ramsey and Sir Les both want Sherwood. I would be very unhappy with Sherwood and if we appoint him I think we will be back here before the year is out. What has he achieved? I have been a staunched supporter of Sir Les, but he would be accountable if his next appointment is a mate who turns out to be a failure. Both Warburton and Rowett did well at Brentford (but who doesn't?) but their appeal has fallen after subsequent failures. Rowett in particular after Stoke. Appleton did well at Oxford but not a lot otherwise. But if has to be one of those four then not a lot in it - but not Sherwood. Kevin Gallen just said on SSN that his choice would have been Kenny Jackett
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Post by harr on Apr 1, 2019 14:38:30 GMT
I suspect that plans are afoot to interview the 4 named by McIntyre. I also suspect that Ramsey and Sir Les both want Sherwood. I would be very unhappy with Sherwood and if we appoint him I think we will be back here before the year is out. What has he achieved? I have been a staunched supporter of Sir Les, but he would be accountable if his next appointment is a mate who turns out to be a failure. Both Warburton and Rowett did well at Brentford (but who doesn't?) but their appeal has fallen after subsequent failures. Rowett in particular after Stoke. Appleton did well at Oxford but not a lot otherwise. But if has to be one of those four then not a lot in it - but not Sherwood. Kevin Gallen just said on SSN that his choice would have been Kenny Jackett Agree. If it has to be one from that list then so be it but not TS. No jobs for mates, Sherwood like you say would be a certainty to put us back in the same position we are in now before the next seasons out imo. whats all the rush anyway, why not wait until the Summer, plenty about.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2019 14:39:43 GMT
SSN - Breaking News 15:35
QPR MANAGER LATEST
Tim Sherwood is on the list of candidates to take over from Steve McClaren at QPR, Sky Sports News understands.
The Championship club would prefer to make a permanent appointment now to enable them to plan ahead for next season.
The Rangers hierarchy feel confident that the team is not in danger of relegation despite a poor run under McClaren in 2019.
QPR's annual wage bill of around £31m is already below average in the Championship, yet chairman Tony Fernandes wants to trim it to £11m for next season.
Sherwood worked successfully with Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey within the Tottenham youth set-up before enjoying stints as first team manager at White Hart Lane, and then Aston Villa.
Wycombe manager and former Rangers winger Gareth Ainsworth has been linked with the job in the recent past.
Club insiders still hope the club will wait until the summer to entice former assistant manager Kenny Jackett away from League One Portsmouth.
Reports elsewhere are linking Mark Warburton, Michael Appleton and Gary Rowett with the job.
Make of it what you will!
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Post by harr on Apr 1, 2019 14:43:13 GMT
This would be worst appointment since Paul Hart.
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Post by Marc on Apr 1, 2019 14:49:39 GMT
SSN - Breaking News Confirmation that Sherwood is one of the names under consideration. TF has stated that our annual wage bill is now £31m and that is apparently well below the Championship average, but he wants to cut that figure to £11m The board are keen to make an appointment quickly, but 'club insiders' want the board to wait until the Summer and then target Kenny Jacket. Make of it what you will! Here's hoping that the 'club insiders' get their way.
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Post by terryb on Apr 1, 2019 15:47:28 GMT
Of the four mentioned, I would prefer Appleton, but my first choice would be Tisdale.
I know that would mean paying compensation, but if we can afford to keep dismissing managers, then we can afford compensation!
On a similar note, I like Hoos, Ferdinand & Sinton. However, if we can't reduce playing costs enough, we will have to reduce off field costs. So, I ask the question - Can we afford all three?
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2019 16:10:42 GMT
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Post by blatantfowl on Apr 1, 2019 17:29:49 GMT
Just pick the cheapest.
All other criteria used for the selection of managers has failed.
Previous track record is irrelevant.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Apr 1, 2019 17:54:58 GMT
Who in their right mind would want the job?.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 1, 2019 18:59:25 GMT
Here are the QPR next manager odds in full via SkyBet: Tim Sherwood 1/3 Mark Warburton 6/1 Gary Rowett 8/1 Gareth Ainsworth 8/1 Nigel Pearson 12/1 Steve Evans 14/1 Matt Gardiner 14/1 John Eustace 16/1 Michael Appleton 16/1 Brian McDermott 16/1 Updatest Queens Park Rangers Manager Odds Tim Sherwood Previous Team: Aston Villa Left: 25 Oct 2015 Bet Victor 4/6 Gareth Ainsworth Current Team: Wycombe Wanderers Time With Team: 6 years 6 mths 8 days Bet - Paddy Power 5/1 Mark Warburton Previous Team: Nottingham Forest Left: 31 Dec 2017 Bet - Paddy Power 15/2 Darren Moore Previous Team: West Bromwich Albion Left: 9 Mar 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 10/1 Steve Cotterill Previous Team: Birmingham City Left: 3 Mar 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 12/1 Gary Rowett Previous Team: Stoke City Left: 8 Jan 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 14/1 John Eustace Current Team: Queens Park Rangers Time With Team: Bet - Bet Victor 20/1 David Wagner Previous Team: Huddersfield Town Left: 14 Jan 2019 Bet - Paddy Power 22/1 Marc Bircham Previous Team: Queens Park Rangers Left: 17 Dec 2009 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Carlos Carvalhal Previous Team: Swansea City Left: 18 May 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Steve Clarke Current Team: Kilmarnock Time With Team: 1 year 5 mths 18 days Bet - Paddy Power 25/1 Steve Evans Previous Team: Peterborough United Left: 26 Jan 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Michael Flynn Current Team: Newport County Time With Team: 1 year 10 mths 23 days Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Ian Holloway Previous Team: Queens Park Rangers Left: 10 May 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Mark Hughes Previous Team: Southampton Left: 3 Dec 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Aitor Karanka Previous Team: Nottingham Forest Left: 11 Jan 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 David Moyes Previous Team: West Ham United Left: 13 May 2018 Bet - Paddy Power 25/1 Nigel Pearson Previous Team: Leuven Left: 3 Feb 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 25/1 Sam Allardyce Previous Team: Everton Left: 16 May 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Joey Barton Current Team: Fleetwood Town Time With Team: 9 mths 30 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Craig Bellamy Previous Team: None Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Slaven Bilic Previous Team: Al Ittihad Left: 9 Oct 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Paul Clement Previous Team: Reading Left: 6 Dec 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Chris Coleman Current Team: Hebei China Fortune Time With Team: 9 mths 22 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Danny Cowley Current Team: Lincoln City Time With Team: 2 years 10 mths 19 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Paul Hurst Previous Team: Ipswich Town Left: 25 Oct 2018 Bet - Paddy Power 33/1 Kenny Jackett Current Team: Portsmouth Time With Team: 1 year 9 mths 30 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Slavisa Jokanovic Previous Team: Fulham Left: 14 Nov 2018 Bet - Paddy Power 33/1 Martin Jol Previous Team: Al Ahly Cairo Left: 19 Aug 2016 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Harry Kewell Previous Team: Notts County Left: 13 Nov 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Brian McDermott Previous Team: Reading Left: 27 May 2016 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Derek McInnes Current Team: Aberdeen Time With Team: 6 years 7 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Garry Monk Current Team: Birmingham City Time With Team: 1 year 28 days Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Alan Pardew Previous Team: West Bromwich Albion Left: 2 Apr 2018 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Claude Puel Previous Team: Leicester City Left: 24 Feb 2019 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Harry Redknapp Previous Team: Birmingham City Left: 16 Sep 2017 Bet - Paddy Power 33/1 Craig Shakespeare Previous Team: Leicester City Left: 17 Oct 2017 Bet - Bet Victor 33/1 Michael Appleton Previous Team: Oxford United Left: 20 Jun 2017 Bet - Paddy Power 35/1 Dougie Freedman Previous Team: Nottingham Forest Left: 13 Mar 2016 Bet - Paddy Power 35/1 Mick Harford Current Team: Luton Town Time With Team: 2 mths 22 days Bet e - Paddy Power 35/1
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 1, 2019 19:04:11 GMT
There are managers outside the UK
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Post by bowranger on Apr 1, 2019 19:37:46 GMT
I suspect that plans are afoot to interview the 4 named by McIntyre. I also suspect that Ramsey and Sir Les both want Sherwood. I would be very unhappy with Sherwood and if we appoint him I think we will be back here before the year is out. What has he achieved? I have been a staunched supporter of Sir Les, but he would be accountable if his next appointment is a mate who turns out to be a failure. Both Warburton and Rowett did well at Brentford (but who doesn't?) but their appeal has fallen after subsequent failures. Rowett in particular after Stoke. Appleton did well at Oxford but not a lot otherwise. But if has to be one of those four then not a lot in it - but not Sherwood. Kevin Gallen just said on SSN that his choice would have been Kenny Jackett Tim Sherwood would absolutely lump a lot of negative PR pressure on the club before a ball is kicked. He always seems to crop up in the odds, but I just hope it's speculation. I guess shortlist is just that, it doesn't necessarily have to mean much. I remember the absolute storm online at some of the names reputably interviewed prior to Holloway's appointment, but I guess if someone has some managerial experience at an equivalent level and seems to want it, there's not much harm in hearing them out...even if they are people I'd personally never want. After all, not having a proper set of multiple candidates and choices is one of the things we've been criticised for a lot before. That point about Warburton and Rowett performing at Brentford I think has a lot of relevance to us. During that period, Brentford seemed so well set up that it was difficult to fail there. By the same token, you see the sheer range of managers who have tried things here having near identical end results and you also think..."who doesn't?" The likes of Preston are operating competitively and savvily well beyond us, on even less money. I'm not saying that's where we should be right now and maybe the right appointment can elevate us, but it's dependent on so much more than the manager being right.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2019 20:40:57 GMT
Does it really matter who we get as long as TF is still here?
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Post by harr on Apr 1, 2019 20:47:33 GMT
Going by the amount of fans on social media saying they won’t bother going if Sherwood gets the deal, it would be a disaster for the Club if they were naive enough to appoint.
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Post by canadaranger on Apr 1, 2019 23:18:13 GMT
I see Mark Hughes is 25-1 !!!
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Post by Marc on Apr 2, 2019 7:07:56 GMT
I see Mark Hughes is 25-1 !!! Must be a typo, should be 250,000,000,000,000-1
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 2, 2019 7:08:27 GMT
Well we have to be realistic. The manager we all want probably does not exist. Or if they do, we cannot afford to pay for them to leave their current clubs. Of what is left, they all have their flaws. The bookies will give you odds on anyone as ever, but they know that whoever we appoint will be a compromise. We cannot aim high. Sherwood - succeeded with the kids at Tottenham - is arrogant and has delivered nothing since Warburton - did well at Brentford, unlucky to lose his job at a turbulent Rangers - failed at Forest Rowett - did well at Brentford, unlucky to lose his job at Derby and Birmingham - failed at Stoke, likes to spend money, style of football unpopular. Appleton - did well at Oxford, but not a lot else Ainsworth - one club experience, shoestring budget, currently embroiled in a relegation battle - style of football unlikely to be popular in the Championship Holloway - QPR through and through, loses the plot regularly, unlucky to lose his job in many people eyes - a third term would probably be unwise. So on and so on.
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Post by harr on Apr 2, 2019 7:15:54 GMT
I’m ok with Warburton, Rowett, Appleton, just do not want Sherwood anywhere near our Club. Would rather that GA did not join at this particular time, would not want it to end badly , not saying it would.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 2, 2019 9:41:24 GMT
www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-qpr-tim-sherwood-times-042019Sherwood has concerns about the role because of our financial constraints - FFS from a man who hasn't had a club since 2017. He is going to be sooo unpopular. Meanwhile, Kevin Bond is the new manager of Southend. Wonder if he gets a car with a driver - although that was his own core strength.
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 2, 2019 10:35:51 GMT
WAIT TILL SUMMER
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Post by harr on Apr 2, 2019 11:54:42 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 2, 2019 13:03:45 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._managersThe link shows that we have had 25 managers since 1998 and 24 since 2001. Taking on the job is high risk and you have to ask 'who would be a football manager'? But the longest tenures in that list are: 1) Ian Holloway 5 Years 35 Days 2) Gerry Francis 2 Years 132 Days 3) Harry Redknapp 2 Years 71 Days 4) Ian Holloway 1 Year 141 Days 5) Neil Warnock 1 Year 312 Days 6) John Gregory 1 Year 11 Days 7) Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 337 Days 8) Mark Hughes 318 Days 8) Steve McClaren 318 Days That means the other 16 appointments covered just over 3 years between them Hardly worth moving house is it? No wonder McClaren never bothered moving down form the North East
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Post by Roller on Apr 3, 2019 6:26:47 GMT
Would it make more sense to appoint the next manager asap so he can add his views to the mix regarding which players we should look to retain for next season?
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Post by harr on Apr 3, 2019 10:21:01 GMT
Wasn’t Steve Gallen working under Chris Ramsey at some point, would this work ok, suppose so. I think Steve was always thought of in very high esteem at QPR.
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