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Post by alfaranger on Jan 27, 2016 13:30:46 GMT
From the Daily Mail Matt Phillips could leave QPR this month, admits manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink with West Brom keen on £10m winger - Highly-rated QPR winger Matt Phillips is a target for West Brom - The Baggies saw a £7m bid for Phillips rejected last summer - Hoops boss Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has not ruled out selling Phillips - QPR have set a £10m asking price for the Scotland international - West Brom's bid will likely depend on the sale of Saido Berahino By LAURIE WHITWELL FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 22:56 EST, 27 January 2016 | UPDATED: 23:29 EST, 27 January 2016 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has not ruled out selling Matt Phillips should his price be met before transfer deadline day – but insists he wants to keep the winger and make him a better player. Phillips has been the subject of Premier League interest since Queens Park Rangers were relegated last season with West Bromwich Albion head coach Tony Pulis an admirer. QPR rejected a £7million bid from West Brom last summer, believed to be holding out for £10m, but Phillips now has only has 18 months left on his deal. Pulis is only able to spend what he brings in, so any move for Phillips is likely to be dependent on Saido Berahino being sold. 'That is a question for (director of football) Les Ferdinand but as far as I know they (WBA) have not been in for Matt,' said Hasselbaink. 'But Matt is a very young exciting player who is catching the eye of a lot of clubs. 'Do I want to lose Matt? No. He is a pleasure to work with. I do believe I can make him better. I do believe there is a lot of mileage in him and he's one of those players who fits in with the plans of QPR. 'But business is business and everybody has his price.' Hasselbaink has brought in Conor Washington for £3.5m after selling Charlie Austin for £4m, but is easing the 23-year-old into Championship football. 'You have to give him time but also you have to be good to him,' said Hasselbaink. 'He has to have every chance of succeeding and also the boys have to understand how he plays and how he can be served in the right way. 'We are looking (to do more business). It's not easy to get the right individual, but we are looking.' -ends Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3419022/Matt-Phillips-leave-QPR-month-admits-manager-Jimmy-Floyd-Hasselbaink-West-Brom-keen-10m-winger.html#ixzz3yS0n51qp Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook I dont think he's worth £10m though. Holding out for that will likely give us another Charlie situation and Charlie was at least consistent - Matt blows hot and cold a bit.
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Post by nomar on Jan 27, 2016 14:56:09 GMT
At this stage of the season they may as well sign the local greengrocer to play RB. He's hardly going to play anyway and when he does he won't make a blind bit of difference. Well you cant argue that we are consistently good for getting around 1 point a game now since Sept 12th. We had that 5 game burst at the start getting ten points. Taken us 24 games to get the last 26 points, absolutely disgusting when you look at the squad. Sorry I dont see it as consolidation, I see it as gutless and shambles, Tony can spin it whatever way he wants. Consolidation is just an excuse for failure, ask Hull and Burnley if the are consolidating. I understand why this lot failed in the Premier League now. They were sh*te in that league. Now they're in a lower tier and they should be tearing this league up but they're still sh*te. Absolute joke that these lads think they beling back in the Prem. At this stage I'd be chomping at the bit to take a fiver for Philips, Fer, Sandro and Green. All four of them together that is, not £5 each. Fed up of seeing players like this taking the p*ss while we pay them the equivalent of the annual gross domestic product of several south American countries every week. I just genuinely can't be doing with it the rest of this season.
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Post by harr on Jan 27, 2016 16:00:43 GMT
Well you cant argue that we are consistently good for getting around 1 point a game now since Sept 12th. We had that 5 game burst at the start getting ten points. Taken us 24 games to get the last 26 points, absolutely disgusting when you look at the squad. Sorry I dont see it as consolidation, I see it as gutless and shambles, Tony can spin it whatever way he wants. Consolidation is just an excuse for failure, ask Hull and Burnley if the are consolidating. I understand why this lot failed in the Premier League now. They were sh*te in that league. Now they're in a lower tier and they should be tearing this league up but they're still sh*te. Absolute joke that these lads think they beling back in the Prem. At this stage I'd be chomping at the bit to take a fiver for Philips, Fer, Sandro and Green. All four of them together that is, not £5 each. Fed up of seeing players like this taking the p*ss while we pay them the equivalent of the annual gross domestic product of several south American countries every week. I just genuinely can't be doing with it the rest of this season. Its very frustrating Nomar but these 17 games he should be going for a few wins now I think. Maybe he is waiting for another striker to come in before he plays more attacking at home. Yeah theres 5-6 that need to go now but it will be hard to get rid of the crap as they will suck us dry until the contract runs out. How much have we paid Diakite and how many games has he actually played, same for Gobern and Traore. We have mugs written all over us, get rid now I say Gobern,Diakite,Traore, Fer and Sandro. Last year in the Prem was a shambles and we just continued the theme again sadly. 24 games 26 points , dreadful return for this bunch or maybe its not, maybe thats there limit, whoevers in charge.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 27, 2016 16:13:17 GMT
Delusional fans?
Actually, it's the opinion of one-time Villa assistant manager Peter Grant talking about his former club. But there are a few home truths there...
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Post by harr on Jan 27, 2016 16:25:55 GMT
Delusional fans? Actually, it's the opinion of one-time Villa assistant manager Peter Grant talking about his former club. But there are a few home truths there... Yeah its always the fans fault, never the Chairman that give a three year contract to a Rookie that never managed a game in his life. Actually looking at the staff outgoings over the Summer, Hull actually had more than us and Burnley similiar which suprised me. They both had less incomings though and of course they both had proper managers that had managed in that League before. We keep on getting thro staff at an unbelievable number, I guess if you keep buying the wrong players it doesnt help. Wasting money on Players like Gobern, Diakite, Jet, how many games will they actually play for us in there contracts? www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/transfers/wettbewerb/GB2/plus/?saison_id=2015&s_w=&leihe=0&intern=0&intern=1
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Post by nomar on Jan 27, 2016 16:36:47 GMT
I understand why this lot failed in the Premier League now. They were sh*te in that league. Now they're in a lower tier and they should be tearing this league up but they're still sh*te. Absolute joke that these lads think they beling back in the Prem. At this stage I'd be chomping at the bit to take a fiver for Philips, Fer, Sandro and Green. All four of them together that is, not £5 each. Fed up of seeing players like this taking the p*ss while we pay them the equivalent of the annual gross domestic product of several south American countries every week. I just genuinely can't be doing with it the rest of this season. Its very frustrating Nomar but these 17 games he should be going for a few wins now I think. Maybe he is waiting for another striker to come in before he plays more attacking at home. Yeah theres 5-6 that need to go now but it will be hard to get rid of the crap as they will suck us dry until the contract runs out. How much have we paid Diakite and how many games has he actually played, same for Gobern and Traore. We have mugs written all over us, get rid now I say Gobern,Diakite,Traore, Fer and Sandro. Last year in the Prem was a shambles and we just continued the theme again sadly. 24 games 26 points , dreadful return for this bunch or maybe its not, maybe thats there limit, whoevers in charge. Problem is, who will buy that lot? On super salaries and we're probably over valuing them because we overpaid for them in the first place. I hope we can at least clear this last lot out in the summer if they don't go in this window.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 27, 2016 17:27:52 GMT
Problem is, who will buy that lot? On super salaries and we're probably over valuing them because we overpaid for them in the first place. And there's the problem we now have, desperately trying to comply with FFP regulations. I suspect Burnley and Hull have been more stable and operate within their means. They didn't have the massive overspend we had (on mainly poor players) and they haven't had to go through the massive over-correction we are now, trying to appease the Football League compliance lawyers.
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Post by harr on Jan 27, 2016 17:35:23 GMT
Its very frustrating Nomar but these 17 games he should be going for a few wins now I think. Maybe he is waiting for another striker to come in before he plays more attacking at home. Yeah theres 5-6 that need to go now but it will be hard to get rid of the crap as they will suck us dry until the contract runs out. How much have we paid Diakite and how many games has he actually played, same for Gobern and Traore. We have mugs written all over us, get rid now I say Gobern,Diakite,Traore, Fer and Sandro. Last year in the Prem was a shambles and we just continued the theme again sadly. 24 games 26 points , dreadful return for this bunch or maybe its not, maybe thats there limit, whoevers in charge. Problem is, who will buy that lot? On super salaries and we're probably over valuing them because we overpaid for them in the first place. I hope we can at least clear this last lot out in the summer if they don't go in this window. I think Gobern and JET were free but we probably paid something for Diakite. We will take a huge hit on Fer and Sandro. I was hoping Fer and Sandro might go now and even Diakite, the others will just sit on there contract Gobern was a year so runs out Summer anyway. Diakite cant have long left surely?
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Post by harr on Jan 27, 2016 17:37:04 GMT
Problem is, who will buy that lot? On super salaries and we're probably over valuing them because we overpaid for them in the first place. And there's the problem we now have, desperately trying to comply with FFP regulations. I suspect Burnley and Hull have been more stable and operate within their means. They didn't have the massive overspend we had (on mainly poor players) and they haven't had to go through the massive over-correction we are now, trying to appease the Football League compliance lawyers. Yeah that makes alot of sense.
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Post by sharky on Jan 27, 2016 23:02:45 GMT
From ladbrokes.com news.ladbrokes.com/football/premier-league/bournemouth-revive-interest-in-championship-hotshot.html?BOURNEMOUTH REVIVE INTEREST IN CHAMPIONSHIP HOTSHOTCherries boss Howe to bid for QPR ace 27 January 2016 Bournemouth’s January spooning looks set to continue with Cherries boss Eddie Howe reviving his interest in QPR’s Matt Phillips. Having signed Juan Iturbe on loan and Lewis Grabban and Benik Afobe on permanent deals Howe appeared to have conducted all of his business early. However, with disgruntled forward Lee Tomlin being sent to Bristol City on loan and Junior Stanislas the latest player to be struck by the Cherries’ injury curse, Howe is back in the market for attacking additions before the window closes on Monday. Ex-West Ham and Burnley ace Stanislas now faces at least six weeks on the sidelines after suffering suspected medial ligament damage during Bournemouth’s 1-1 draw at Sunderland at the weekend. Commenting on this latest blow Howe said: “He twisted his knee and it doesn’t look good. It would be a big blow to lose him for any period of time.” Phillips has turned out 30 times for Rangers this season, netting five goals and setting up four others, and could be the next big money arrival at Dean Court, with QPR likely to demand £8m for his signature. The 24-year-old started his career at League Two side Wycombe Wanderers, before shining at Blackpool and Sheffield United. He hit the headlines last year with a screamer of a goal in the Rs’ failed Premier League survival attempt and Howe will hope he can add to that showreel on the south coast. Bournemouth will hope to earn local bragging rights and a place in the fifth round of the FA Cup when travelling to Portsmouth this weekend and at 13/10 are heavy favourites to do just that. Attention will then turn to back to the Premier League where Phillips’ arrival could see odds of 1/7 on the Cherries to stay up tumble even further.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 8:17:09 GMT
The good news is Diakite's 4 year deal runs out in the summer. Gobern was a one year contract, should have been one week, so runs out in the summer. So if we cant get rid of these this window, gone by the summer. Sandro and Fer signed 3 year deals summer 2014, so if we cant get rid, still 18 months on contracts. I get the impression JFH will want to keep Fer anyway. JET, not sure where he has vanished too, signed a three year deal in summer so is ours until Summer 2018, um swazzy. Must admit, it seems to have gone really quiet at the minute. Only one we definitely know thats going is Phillips. What happens if nobody takes Green, he cant play for us ? Or he can but gets a new deal.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 10:28:47 GMT
Some old info on Motta before he officially signs this week. A deal which could be extended beyond Summer 2016 apparently. In the last 10 -12 years he has played on average 15-20 games a year.
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Post by sharky on Jan 28, 2016 10:57:01 GMT
From hereisthecity www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/28/report-west-brom-consider-offering-fa-cup-winner-in-part-exchang/?Report: West Brom consider offering FA Cup winner in part-exchange for QPR ace Matt PhillipsDan Coombs @hitcdancoombs 55 minutes ago West Brom are keen on QPR's Matt Phillips. West Bromwich Albion are considering their options to land transfer target Matt Phillips from QPR. The Sun report the Baggies are entertaining the option of offering Calum McManaman in part exchange. Another option is a straight cash £7.5 million bid, but the paper claim they are balancing this against a player plus cash deal. McManaman has made only two Premier League starts this season for West Brom, making a further nine substitute appearances. The 24-year-old signed for West Brom from Wigan Athletic 12 months ago, with The BBC reporting the fee at £4.75 million. They would not want to take much of a loss on him, if at all, in terms of their valuation - meaning they could effectively halve, at least, the fee required for Phillips.
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Post by nomar on Jan 28, 2016 13:01:41 GMT
From hereisthecity www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/28/report-west-brom-consider-offering-fa-cup-winner-in-part-exchang/?Report: West Brom consider offering FA Cup winner in part-exchange for QPR ace Matt PhillipsDan Coombs @hitcdancoombs 55 minutes ago West Brom are keen on QPR's Matt Phillips. West Bromwich Albion are considering their options to land transfer target Matt Phillips from QPR. The Sun report the Baggies are entertaining the option of offering Calum McManaman in part exchange. Another option is a straight cash £7.5 million bid, but the paper claim they are balancing this against a player plus cash deal. McManaman has made only two Premier League starts this season for West Brom, making a further nine substitute appearances. The 24-year-old signed for West Brom from Wigan Athletic 12 months ago, with The BBC reporting the fee at £4.75 million. They would not want to take much of a loss on him, if at all, in terms of their valuation - meaning they could effectively halve, at least, the fee required for Phillips. Actually, if this was true then it wouldn't be a bad deal either option. McManaman is decent at Championship level so we'd be getting a decent player and cash back. Personally, if they're offering £7.5m for Phillips I'm taking it and running as far as my legs can carry me before they change their minds.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 13:25:19 GMT
Yeah but where are the 7 million offers for Sandro and Fer? Does nobody want Diakite ? He has been with us 3 1/2 years, I think he went on loan a year? Cost us a few bob per appearance mind. 3 1/2 years played 14 games for us and 13 on loan ..... Thats about 8 games a season ffs , lets stop these stupid mistakes Goberns another, since the summer, 2 cup appearances and 4-5 games for Donny, then we will sit on him ( not literally but may not be a bad idea) until June before he goes.... Why keep buying these players. Is there any future for JET or does he become the next DIAKITE
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 28, 2016 14:20:39 GMT
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Post by sharky on Jan 28, 2016 15:05:41 GMT
....more on the Chery move story from getwestlondon. We should hang onto him IMO. He's part of our future! www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/qpr-negotiations-shock-sale-tjaronn-10802269QPR in 'negotiations' for shock sale of Tjaronn Chery to Maccabi Tel Aviv13:30, 28 JAN 2016 UPDATED 13:45, 28 JAN 2016 BY PAUL WARBURTON Going Dutch was never so appropriate if reports from Israel concerning Rangers striker are shown to have any substance Tjaronn Chery is reportedly in talks with Maccabi Tel Aviv - only seven months after he joined QPR for a reported £1.7 million. Israeli media says the 27-year-old's representatives are sorting the move that involves a key fellow Dutch countryman in both camps. The son of one of the most famous names in football is the sports director of the Israeli club that was in the same Uefa Champions League group as Chelsea. Jordi Cruyff was the man who let Slavisa Jokanovic become Fulham's new boss not long after Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink took the reins at Rs. Chery's time with Rangers has been hit and miss, graphically illustrated when he hit a post and watched the chance of a late win against Wolves go west last weekend. He has made 27 appearances in all competitions, scoring four times including a cracker against Bolton for a 4-3 win in October. He was also in disgrace when substituted early in the 4-0 debacle at Fulham in September, and stomped off to the Craven Cottage changing room waving at Rs fans as he went.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 28, 2016 15:19:15 GMT
Two completely different approaches to the same story...
West London Sport:
Get West London
I know which one I find credible and which one churns out trashy, sensationalised headlines to generate clicks to their web site...
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Post by Marc on Jan 28, 2016 15:22:33 GMT
Two completely different approaches to the same story... West London Sport: Get West London I know which one I find credible and which one churns out trashy, sensationalised headlines to generate clicks to their web site... Anything spouted by GWL should be taken with a shovelfull of salt.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 16:21:17 GMT
Two completely different approaches to the same story... West London Sport: Get West London I know which one I find credible and which one churns out trashy, sensationalised headlines to generate clicks to their web site... Anything spouted by GWL should be taken with a shovelfull of salt. Hoping he stays. Would be crazy to get rid of Chery, with Luongo and Hall our three best buys of the summer. Tel Macabi both Gobern and Diakite are the bees knees
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Post by stylecouncillor on Jan 28, 2016 16:57:08 GMT
I don't quite get why people keep going on about selling Diakite . Lets be realistic the player could probably walk past many a QPR fan and they would not know who he was, he has played so few games. I don't quite see which club is going to make an offer on someone who nobody has seen play.Personally I've quite liked him when he was playing but now can't quite workout if he has the greatest agent in history for getting his current contract or the worlds worst agent for never touting him for being available.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 17:16:32 GMT
I don't quite get why people keep going on about selling Diakite . Lets be realistic the player could probably walk past many a QPR fan and they would not know who he was, he has played so few games. I don't quite see which club is going to make an offer on someone who nobody has seen play.Personally I've quite liked him when he was playing but now can't quite workout if he has the greatest agent in history for getting his current contract or the worlds worst agent for never touting him for being available. Umm, cant say I agree StyleC Maybe the Managers dont know who he is either? You could be right about other clubs making an offer though due not playing, which he is why he should have been loaned out but hasnt for a whole year next week, whilst we still keep coughing it up. How many times has he played for us in the last 2 years? As far as I recall he came back from his last loan a year ago and hasnt played for the first team in the League, so aswell as Rednapp not using him hardly never, Ramsey and JFH havnt either. Surely if he was any good, one of them would put him in the squad regularly? Anyhow his Contract is up in the summer, I wish him well though and hope he finds a club he actually plays for next time rather than a dozen games a season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 18:05:57 GMT
I too really do not get the apparent obsession of some on the subject of trying to get rid of Gobern. Signed as a fringe support player in case the likes of Sandro had left in the summer. Signed for nothing on a (reported) minimal salary - has not worked out or has not had the opportunity to work out as he has not played and therefore not done anything wrong or brought the club down or contributed to a mid table position. Get off his back.
We all know the history of Diakite's situation. He has been out on loan so not been a total drain on finances but obviously a succession of coaches think he is not right for the team.
What are we supposed to do - keep 11 players and sell the rest? Even then we cannot sell or loan or give a free if nobody wants to buy.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 19:55:58 GMT
I too really do not get the apparent obsession of some on the subject of trying to get rid of Gobern. Signed as a fringe support player in case the likes of Sandro had left in the summer. Signed for nothing on a (reported) minimal salary - has not worked out or has not had the opportunity to work out as he has not played and therefore not done anything wrong or brought the club down or contributed to a mid table position. Get off his back. We all know the history of Diakite's situation. He has been out on loan so not been a total drain on finances but obviously a succession of coaches think he is not right for the team. What are we supposed to do - keep 11 players and sell the rest? Even then we cannot sell or loan or give a free if nobody wants to buy. All im saying is while we are about to get with FFP and an embargo, we need to be more cautious than ever. Diakite was on the payroll so nothing could be done there. Gobern is a very poor player in my opinion only, so poor huddersfield didnt even want to take him on, most of there fans thought it was laughable when we signed him. If you think Goberns a good player, fine. Personally I would of thought some of our youngsters were even better. Of course it is all opinions and take in the fact you think he was an acceptable buy for that club.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 21:05:14 GMT
WBA just made an approach to us, not Phillips but Sandro until the end of the season. Good to get him off the wage bill until the summer and he would still have 12. months to run after loan.
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 22:28:41 GMT
Do you mean this summer Mac ?
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Post by harr on Jan 28, 2016 22:47:58 GMT
This seasons signings considering costs spent were much leaner have all played a part . Probably 2-3 havnt and been out on loan.
Luongo now back in the starting 11 and a big asset, will continue to develop. Chery started off well fallen out of favour but I reckon loads more to give but certainly helping and we need to keep him. Hall has been impressive, and a real solid part in our new defence. JET had a 3-4 gane spell when Charlie was out and looked ok to be fair but no real game time and the time he had recently seemed to have gone back to being a bit lazy? Mackie has been injured, so not had many chances so far. Tozser - has been a big disappointment, not sure how such a decent player for Watford is looking so average for us, unless its the format of our play. My guess is Watford played far more attacking football last year and we dont, not even at home. Hasnt really had the impacted expected. Konchesky loan, started off ok but has been a little average lately but I still like him and a season long loan was fine where we curently are. Gladwin has only played a few games, doesnt look a finished product for the Championship yet but will start games for Bristol C now and get game time in Championship, so we can see how he develops. Perch I never really rated but In fairness he has improved over the last few games.
Gobern.. I dont think I really need to answer this. Smithies had his best game this week. He maybe just needs a run of games now. Looked very edgy and will play more reast of the season. Have a good young back up keeper now too.
Angella I thought has looked pretty solid and only a year deal so no real harm there. Poulter was about a Million pound and really came and in a difficult situation a got a few goals what was asked of him , so not a bad signing really.
There was the other lad who went on loan to Newpor Tyler Blackwood a bit too young at the minute to break into the first 11.
I think I have missed a couple.
By last seasons signings ? If you mean like Caulker - loaned out all year not played. Fer has played most games. Sandro, not many . Did we sign that many others that season? Think im missing one or two?
McCarthy was signed and sold a year later Mutch was signed and sold 6 months later. Rio was a nightmare lol
Sad thing is Fer, Sandro and Caulker cost us around 22 million ? How much will we get back for them 10-12 if we are lucky??
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Post by corndog on Jan 28, 2016 23:35:49 GMT
WBA just made an approach to us, not Phillips but Sandro until the end of the season. Good to get him off the wage bill until the summer and he would still have 12. months to run after loan. Don't see what there is to lose by sending him to WBA. Haven't heard anything about a potential sale and if he does well it will raise his value. Also, can't hurt getting his wages off the books.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 28, 2016 23:37:39 GMT
No I meant for the 2014/15 Season but that was interesting summation of this past summer
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 29, 2016 5:05:20 GMT
Some old info on Motta before he officially signs this week. A deal which could be extended beyond Summer 2016 apparently. In the last 10 -12 years he has played on average 15-20 games a year. I think you might find a lot of those were from on the bench
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