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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 8:33:05 GMT
FLashback: As posted by the now passed-on, John Clifford/Gramps.With apologies to Blocky. QPR Team: Allen; Smith, Jefferson; Lowe, James, March; Cape, Mallett, Stock, Fitzgerald, Bott. Substitutes - No such thing! From the programme the following week: The Devon tourists After witnessing the fine display put up by our Torquay visitors on Saturday last, we can quite appreciate that there has been no fluke about their away record. They soon adapted themselves to the prevailing adverse conditions and for the greater part of the game called the tune. When they took the lead after half an hour of the second half had gone it looked as if they were set for the full spoils, and but for the inspiration and never say die spirit of Harry Lowe, they must have succeeded. Harry proved himself a real captain when, using his own initiative, he moved up inside left Dicky across to right-half and Paddy back to left-half. All this seemed to be involved yet it was amply justified for we began to see things happen straight away. We took a grip and within a few minutes of the switch Alec Stock crossed a ball from the left that Harry steered in. This acted as a stimulus and we were seen to better advantage from then to the beginning. Reg Allen was brought out of a spell of comparative inactivity over the last few weeks, and showed that he is always there if needed. Several times he stood alone as our saviour and might have been forgiven had he capitulated on two occasions. Our nearest scoring effort came from Jack Cape in the second half, when a rasping shot at a narrow angle connected with the crossbar. Jack deserved a score if for nothing else than the graft he put in – on one occasion he was noticed operating in a left-back position.Goal scorer 'Harry' was inside right Harry Lowe who played some 250 games for the club and scored 51 goals. Dickie March retired in 1942 and became our catering manager after the war and then continued to come to LR as a season ticket holder. That's loyalty for you. So why am I boring you with all this? Well, this was the first QPR game I was ever taken to at the age of 3 years and 3 days so today is my 75th anniversary of supporting QPR with all the highs, lows and frustrations that three quarters of a century has brought. Don't remember much about it, of course, but I can claim to have seen our best ever manager, Alec Stock, playing for the Rs.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 25, 2014 8:56:04 GMT
Thanks Gramps
And never any need to apologize for any post you make
And if you can't post history and nostalgia on THIS board, then where could you...
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 10:59:58 GMT
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 11:29:59 GMT
Newspaper cutting.
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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 13:56:48 GMT
Have never seen that programme or newspaper report before,Bushy. Strange that Harry Lowe was down as the number four (right half) when he played as an inside right all his career. My theory is that R's were trying to put out an attacking team with five potential 'strikers' in the front and another in the half back line to come forward as and when an opportunity presented itself. This was about the time that the war was brewing up and shortly afterwards football pretty well went to pot for a few years. It occurs to me that this match was somewhat on a par with today's games. 0-0 at half time, then R's one down before scrambling what appears to be a somewhat lucky equaliser. Does that ring a bell? The only different thing is that in those days football was a lot more entertaining. With 7,783 attending it was not exactly a capacity crowd. One good thing about it was that you could pronounce every player's name. Was not long after this that our goalkeeper, Reg Allen, a commando, was languishing in a Japanese prisoner of war camp - a sojourn which effectively destroyed his life.
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 14:22:35 GMT
Have never seen that programme or newspaper report before,Bushy. Strange that Harry Lowe was down as the number four (right half) when he played as an inside right all his career. My theory is that R's were trying to put out an attacking team with five potential 'strikers' in the front and another in the half back line to come forward as and when an opportunity presented itself. This was about the time that the war was brewing up and shortly afterwards football pretty well went to pot for a few years. It occurs to me that this match was somewhat on a par with today's games. 0-0 at half time, then R's one down before scrambling what appears to be a somewhat lucky equaliser. Does that ring a bell? The only different thing is that in those days football was a lot more entertaining. With 7,783 attending it was not exactly a capacity crowd. One good thing about it was that you could pronounce every player's name. Was not long after this that our goalkeeper, Reg Allen, a commando, was languishing in a Japanese prisoner of war camp - a sojourn which effectively destroyed his life. Lowe played at No.4 (right half) for most of 1937-38 & 1938-39. He took over that position when Jimmy Allen was sold to Clapton Orient. Reg Allen was captured in North Africa and was kept in an Italian POW camp.
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Post by portlandranger on Feb 25, 2014 15:21:15 GMT
Hello Bushman Reading the history of this great club is just amazing, what a fantastic job you do, while on history, I know this is nothing to do with football, but I wonder if you could help me, my father was born and brought up in Harrington street just off the Edgeware road before moving to Harlesdon, but I can't find any map showing the street, I can only assume it was destroyed during the war. Thank you Mike
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Post by wrenboy61 on Feb 25, 2014 15:38:59 GMT
Hello Bushman Reading the history of this great club is just amazing, what a fantastic job you do, while on history, I know this is nothing to do with football, but I wonder if you could help me, my father was born and brought up in Harrington street just off the Edgeware road before moving to Harlesdon, but I can't find any map showing the street, I can only assume it was destroyed during the war. Thank you Mike There is a Harrington street at the back of Euston station in a area called Somers town which is postcode NW1. There may have been another Harrington street nearer to Edgware Road and this may have been demolished during the building of the Marylebone flyover in the late 1960's.
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Post by portlandranger on Feb 25, 2014 15:46:33 GMT
Hello Bushman Reading the history of this great club is just amazing, what a fantastic job you do, while on history, I know this is nothing to do with football, but I wonder if you could help me, my father was born and brought up in Harrington street just off the Edgeware road before moving to Harlesdon, but I can't find any map showing the street, I can only assume it was destroyed during the war. Thank you Mike There is a Harrington street at the back of Euston station in a area called Somers town which is postcode NW1. There may have been another Harrington street nearer to Edgware Road and this may have been demolished during the building of the Marylebone flyover in the late 1960's. Thanks wrenboy61, It,s the one off of the Edgeware road ,thanks for that info that sounds about right, thanks for your reply.
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 15:50:35 GMT
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Post by portlandranger on Feb 25, 2014 16:29:13 GMT
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 16:55:41 GMT
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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 17:12:37 GMT
As a matter of very little interest, I used to live a couple of hundred yards from Harrington Street in Euston. Most of it was converted to high rise flats very many years ago.
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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 17:17:25 GMT
Have never seen that programme or newspaper report before,Bushy. Strange that Harry Lowe was down as the number four (right half) when he played as an inside right all his career. My theory is that R's were trying to put out an attacking team with five potential 'strikers' in the front and another in the half back line to come forward as and when an opportunity presented itself. This was about the time that the war was brewing up and shortly afterwards football pretty well went to pot for a few years. It occurs to me that this match was somewhat on a par with today's games. 0-0 at half time, then R's one down before scrambling what appears to be a somewhat lucky equaliser. Does that ring a bell? The only different thing is that in those days football was a lot more entertaining. With 7,783 attending it was not exactly a capacity crowd. One good thing about it was that you could pronounce every player's name. Was not long after this that our goalkeeper, Reg Allen, a commando, was languishing in a Japanese prisoner of war camp - a sojourn which effectively destroyed his life. Lowe played at No.4 (right half) for most of 1937-38 & 1938-39. He took over that position when Jimmy Allen was sold to Clapton Orient. Reg Allen was captured in North Africa and was kept in an Italian POW camp. Thanks for that. The information about Harry Lowe was total news to me but, then again, at three years old I didn't read a lot of football news! Thanks also for putting me right about Reg Allen. Now you mention it, I seem to recall being told in the past that Reg was in an Italian POW camp but somehow got it into my head that it was a Japanese one. The memory plays tricks in old age. I guess it was probably better to be in an Italian camp rather than German or Japanese but nevertheless not much fun for our guys and it really destroyed Reg and, I am convinced, led to his sad and untimely death.
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 17:28:22 GMT
Lowe played at No.4 (right half) for most of 1937-38 & 1938-39. He took over that position when Jimmy Allen was sold to Clapton Orient. Reg Allen was captured in North Africa and was kept in an Italian POW camp. Thanks for that. The information about Harry Lowe was total news to me but, then again, at three years old I didn't read a lot of football news! Thanks also for putting me right about Reg Allen. Now you mention it, I seem to recall being told in the past that Reg was in an Italian POW camp but somehow got it into my head that it was a Japanese one. The memory plays tricks in old age. I guess it was probably better to be in an Italian camp rather than German or Japanese but nevertheless not much fun for our guys and it really destroyed Reg and, I am convinced, led to his sad and untimely death. I think losing his mum played a larger part in his sad demise.
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Post by Bushman on Feb 25, 2014 17:36:16 GMT
Allen was not the only Rangers player in an Italian POW camp in 1941. Jack Kirkham and Jock Barr were also in Italian POW camps.
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Post by portlandranger on Feb 25, 2014 18:17:29 GMT
As a matter of very little interest, I used to live a couple of hundred yards from Harrington Street in Euston. Most of it was converted to high rise flats very many years ago. Thanks gramps for this information, it's all very interesting and by the way your comment of watching the rrrrrrs in 1939 just 3years old makes you 2months older than me , thanks once again Mike
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 19:14:44 GMT
Nice one Gramps, proper loyal supporter, here's to many more years supporting the superhoop's
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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 21:26:11 GMT
I hope so, ohwest, I most certainly hope so. I don't want to shuffle off this mortal coil in the too near future even though every birthday reminds me of my mortality. Twenty more years will do ................... and then I will want another two to make the ton!
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Post by gramps on Feb 25, 2014 21:27:54 GMT
As a matter of very little interest, I used to live a couple of hundred yards from Harrington Street in Euston. Most of it was converted to high rise flats very many years ago. Thanks gramps for this information, it's all very interesting and by the way your comment of watching the rrrrrrs in 1939 just 3years old makes you 2months older than me , thanks once again Mike Well, thank you Mike. It's great to have a youngster like you on the board!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:02:40 GMT
I hope so, ohwest, I most certainly hope so. I don't want to shuffle off this mortal coil in the too near future even though every birthday reminds me of my mortality. Twenty more years will do ................... and then I will want another two to make the ton! Well Gramps, for 78 your looking all good to me, so reckon it might be on that century, My old Grandad would be 100 this year if he was still here with us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:38:13 GMT
I hope so, ohwest, I most certainly hope so. I don't want to shuffle off this mortal coil in the too near future even though every birthday reminds me of my mortality. Twenty more years will do ................... and then I will want another two to make the ton! Well Gramps, for 78 your looking all good to me, so reckon it might be on that century, My old Grandad would be 100 this year if he was still here with us. Youre filling gramps with loads of confidence ohwest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:41:51 GMT
Well Gramps, for 78 your looking all good to me, so reckon it might be on that century, My old Grandad would be 100 this year if he was still here with us. Youre filling gramps with loads of confidence ohwest. so what, my great grandad would of been nearly 130
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:46:10 GMT
Youre filling gramps with loads of confidence ohwest. so what, my great grandad would of been nearly 130 So what? i was just reflecting on something and someone who meant a great deal to me, thank you very much, so thats so what.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:56:56 GMT
Just a little humour ohwest my friend. Apologies.
Respect to your grandad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:01:51 GMT
Well Gramps, for 78 your looking all good to me, so reckon it might be on that century, My old Grandad would be 100 this year if he was still here with us. Youre filling gramps with loads of confidence ohwest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:02:01 GMT
just my silly humour ohwest
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:07:19 GMT
Just a little humour ohwest my friend. Apologies. Respect to your grandad. Sorry maude, didnt sound like humour more piss take out of a dead relative, but i'm cool got my point across. smiley face after a comment like that help's with not getting the wrong end of the stick.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:08:21 GMT
just my silly humour ohwest All good andrew, sorry mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:14:24 GMT
Look at us....were like the 3 muscateers, or the 3 stooges.
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