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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 9:54:37 GMT
Yeah sure!
Dave McIntyre/West London Sport
Hughes: This will be QPR’s last transfer blitz28/08/2012 by David McIntyre This is the final transfer window in which a glut of signings will be made by QPR, manager Mark Hughes has insisted. Rangers have signed a new-look team in successive windows under current chairman Tony Fernandes and the previous regime fronted by Flavio Briatore. But Hughes says a line will finally be drawn once the next deadline arrives. “We’ve had a huge turnover of players. I think since Tony Fernandes came to the club we’ve probably allowed 20 or so players to leave,” said the R’s boss. “We’ve been able to add 12 or 13 players of, in my view, better quality. That’s what we’re trying to do – increase the quality of the first XI and the squad that underpins it. “There’s still business to be done and I’m sure there will be comings and goings, but certainly this window won’t be replicated in January and in seasons to come. “This [signing players] is something that we envisaged needed to be done, but once we’ve gone through the process and the squad’s settled we’ll add quality as and when we see fit.” www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/hughes-this-will4-be-qprs-last27-transfer-blitz? |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 12:24:47 GMT
That was an interesting post our post friend posted re Man City & Hughes signing. Unfortunately for whatever reason, he removed it.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Aug 28, 2012 12:27:11 GMT
That was an interesting post our post friend posted re Man City & Hughes signing. Unfortunately for whatever reason, he removed it. What did he say Mac?  |
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Post by harlowranger on Aug 28, 2012 12:29:03 GMT
What post was that then?
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 12:31:48 GMT
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Post by Jon Doeman on Aug 28, 2012 12:33:14 GMT
The lad isn't a Sparky fan.....neither am I.
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 12:38:58 GMT
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Post by harlowranger on Aug 28, 2012 12:40:46 GMT
Amazing how people are prepared to look at the negatives when he was at City , not what he achieved at Blackburn and a year at Fulham  |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 12:45:04 GMT
I'm very aware of what he achieved at Blackburn and Fulham - That's exactly why I wanted him at QPR.
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Post by harlowranger on Aug 28, 2012 12:58:48 GMT
I'm very aware of what he achieved at Blackburn and Fulham - That's exactly why I wanted him at QPR. Can you put some of the good reports of him up then from those times rather than the City stuff   Of course as you mention wanting him etc , the other thing that people are forgetting , who else better than Hughes was available at the time , that would have wanted to come in the situation that we were in , that had enough player pulling power getting the names to join ? Anyhow enough of this Hughes talk , people will start thinking i'm his PA  |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Aug 28, 2012 13:00:44 GMT
Can't understand anyone getting on Hughes' back already, we've played two games without the defence Hughes wants. Feels like some fans want Briatore back sometimes |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 13:05:17 GMT
I don't think there's anyone in the entire QPR Galaxy who's urging a return of Flavio...Not even his former boosters (and "quasi" interviewer is urging his return! ) As for Hughes: I very much think Hughes was the best option out there when we appointed him. (I wanted Martin O'Neil, but by then, he sadly had already joined Sunderland. And someone like Mourinho: We're not quite at his level yet.) And I don't have any "must have" Manager I'd like instead of Hughes - All the names out there, no one jumps out: (But Moyes would be ok...if Hughes fell under the proverbial bus!  ) |
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Post by harlowranger on Aug 28, 2012 13:14:48 GMT
I don't think there's anyone in the entire QPR Galaxy who's urging a return of Flavio...Not even his former boosters (and "quasi" interviewer is urging his return! ) As for Hughes: I very much think Hughes was the best option out there when we appointed him. (I wanted Martin O'Neil, but by then, he sadly had already joined Sunderland. And someone like Mourinho: We're not quite at his level yet.) And I don't have any "must have" Manager I'd like instead of Hughes - All the names out there, no one jumps out: (But Moyes would be ok...if Hughes fell under the proverbial bus! ) Moyes would be ok for a bit then after a few months something would go pearshaped and people would want him out ! Our Club craves some consistency now , Players and Manager . No more change required after Friday playerwise and give Hughes the season to see where he takes us ! If he gets us to 14-16 th great , the following year will be another better improvement imo! Oh and Mac please dont think the people looking at the negatives at City was directed at you specifically , its in conjunction with some tweets i was reading this afternoon , some absolute garbage out there  |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 13:17:06 GMT
I know...I've seen the name Harry Redknapp raised more than once...Exactly the opposite of long-term planning/Laying of deep roots and an infrastructure that we so desperately need
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 13:20:31 GMT
Of course in the old days...we knew how to deal managers... Gardening Leave....You're Gone...YOU"re Gone..>You're Gone...You're Gone...You're Gone...You spoke to a Fan/messageboard...Gone...Gone...
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Post by Hogan on Aug 28, 2012 13:22:57 GMT
Harry is exactly what the club does not need at this point. The cycle of another 20 going out and 18 coming in would continue and even if he did well, by the time his team was ready Harry would be ready to retire and the whole thing would only start all over again.
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Post by nomar on Aug 28, 2012 13:38:37 GMT
Ah, I see.
Joleon Lescott and Tevez were bad signings for City then, were they? I wonder if the author of that article still subscribes to that view?
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Post by mfnc on Aug 28, 2012 14:14:33 GMT
Can't understand anyone getting on Hughes' back already, we've played two games without the defence Hughes wants. Feels like some fans want Briatore back sometimes it was hughes job to get that defense sorted before the season started. we should of hit the ground running with the money and pre season at his disposle. 5 points dropped i'm afraid already |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Aug 28, 2012 14:35:35 GMT
Can't understand anyone getting on Hughes' back already, we've played two games without the defence Hughes wants. Feels like some fans want Briatore back sometimes it was hughes job to get that defense sorted before the season started. we should of hit the ground running with the money and pre season at his disposle. 5 points dropped i'm afraid already Well if we as a club couldn't get the deals through in time then that's not Hughes's fault is it?? He knows we need a CB but that doesn't mean I want him to go out and buy the first CB that becomes available. In the last week of the window certain players are put up for sale. IHWT |
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Post by sharky on Aug 28, 2012 14:43:03 GMT
Can't understand anyone getting on Hughes' back already, we've played two games without the defence Hughes wants. Feels like some fans want Briatore back sometimes it was hughes job to get that defense sorted before the season started. we should of hit the ground running with the money and pre season at his disposle. 5 points dropped i'm afraid already Spurs, Liverpool, Reading and Norwich in the same boat, and Southampton and Villa worse!! It will take a new team some time to get their game plan sorted. Cut them some slack for goodness sake. If at the end of October we are still in the relegation zone then that is the time to moan!! Half full everyone not half empty!!! |
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Post by mfnc on Aug 28, 2012 14:54:05 GMT
your opinion is just as valid as mine. time will tell. its my post and i can moan if i want to, moan if i want to, moan if i want to, you would moan to if it happened to you. |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 14:56:07 GMT
your opinion is just as valid as mine. time will tell. its my post and i can moan if i want to, moan if i want to, moan if i want to, you would moan to if it happened to you. |
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Post by Jon Doeman on Aug 28, 2012 14:57:02 GMT
your opinion is just as valid as mine. time will tell. its my post and i can moan if i want to, moan if i want to, moan if i want to, you would moan to if it happened to you. I think Maude is in my 'Hughes is clueless' club! ;D |
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 14:57:19 GMT
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Post by scarletpimple on Aug 28, 2012 15:07:10 GMT
Surly sacking hugh's would undermine everything that the club has done since he came in, academy, scouts, Mike rigg the whole running of the club below Phill Beal is now run my hugh's people and they would follow him out.
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Post by Macmoish on Aug 28, 2012 15:11:33 GMT
Exactly. Hughes has become "Too Big To Fail"  (Of course we know how THAT worked out!) We're building an entire infrastructure. Remove Hughes and you basically implode the entire enterprise |
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Post by mfnc on Aug 28, 2012 15:17:04 GMT
Surly sacking hugh's would undermine everything that the club has done since he came in, academy, scouts, Mike rigg the whole running of the club below Phill Beal is now run my hugh's people and they would follow him out. yes. its why we have put all our eggs in one basket. if he brings us success . brilliant. if he fails. not brilliant for the club. were stuck with him. only at QPR ps . i will still back him until any thing DYER happens. |
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Post by ingham on Aug 28, 2012 16:07:16 GMT
If he doesn't get the required results, he'll be out the door and no-one will remember they had any time for him.
Managers don't get the sack - as a rule - when they're winning. And nobody wants them if they aren't. Not once we've 'given them time'.
The manager is the fall guy. Boardroom clowns won't take the blame and sack themselves. Clueless players who cost him his job won't own up.
They'll soon be telling us they're behind the new guy, we'll soon be telling ourselves 'give him time'.
We will. Though not much.
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Post by immadme on Aug 28, 2012 21:51:16 GMT
I wrote Hughes said virtually the same word for word at City:"We won't be going into the market to this extent again," said Hughes. "There has been an unprecedented change in personnel. It was basically a process that should have been done over a three-to-five-year period but we have tried to make it happen in two windows. "In future we will be looking to acquire players that will add value to the club and develop into great players at City, rather than going out to the market and paying a premium because we need the players now." I also wanted to mention how the Mike riggs comments were echoing similar comments at City where Hughes stated after replacing SGE he improved the scouting system quote: Under Eriksson, players such as Valeri Bojinov and Felipe Caicedo were bought without being fully assessed by City's coaching staff. "We do all that research in-house now because we've reorganised the scouting department. Some agents will tell you they've got 'the best player in the world'. Now we can say, 'no he's not', because we've been able to see him 10 times. That was not always the case.''. There was also a comment he made about background checks not being done in the past at city and again said something similar at Fulham which echo's the Riggs comments www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/02/mark-hughes-manchester-city-spending |
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Post by ingham on Aug 30, 2012 8:59:32 GMT
Sums up the dilemma managers find themselves in, immadme.
He talks about 3-5 years developing a squad. Has he stayed 3-5 years at any Club? And 3-5 years is 3-5 years of relatively poor results, while the foundations are being laid.
Looks like he doesn't trust the Board or the supporters to put up with 3-5 years of less than stellar performances while something more long term is prepared.
And doesn't think they trust him.
It is also worth pointing out that 3-5 years is not 'the long term'.
Perhaps the basic objection to this spending spree is that none of these players is OBVIOUSLY superior - real class. Where the quality of performance is guaranteed.
Nevertheless, he is expected to do well. Once, we would have been pleasantly surprised if a motley selection of bargain buys and kids exceeded our expectations.
If they played well, fine. If they didn't, no great surprise.
But now winning isn't an option. He is expected to win.
Will getting the sort of mid-table finishes we had in the 1980s or early 1990s be good enough? Not if the Club is to be effectively trebled in size, build a new ground, and compete at an appropriate level to pay for it.
Optimism - when it means HOPING for the best - is fine. The manufactured optimism we're subjected to is scary when it is the engine of spending on a scale the Club simply can't afford.
There has been no evidence produced to date that Mittal or anyone else is providing the money. If that were the case, the Club wouldn't still be stuck with a 15-year old debt that its representatives repeatedly tell us is 'paid off'.
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