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Post by RoryTheRanger on Feb 1, 2012 13:16:53 GMT
I'm the only one who's signed that petition.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 13:22:21 GMT
As the Chinese proverb goes: "The longest journey begins with the first step" (I only started it five minutes ago...And you will always have the honour of being the first of a million signatories (give or take!) ;D Anyway just as with this messageboard, when it was started. First there was one signer up...And then two...and then, it grew... And another Proverb, from Chairman Mao ""let a hundred flowers bloom "
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 13:39:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 13:40:29 GMT
The trouble is that we cannot say what the outcome of the trial will be If he is stripped of the England captaincy and then found not guilty it would seem undeserved This case should of been held before the run up to the European championships so at least we all now whether he is found guilty or not and deserves to be banned and stripped as captain
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 13:47:26 GMT
Absolutely he deserves his day in court. And absolutely he should be considered innocent until shown otherwise. But just as one would not accept Harry Redknapp to named the next England manager pending the results of the trial. So too re Terry.
As the petition states:
Chelsea and England Captain John Terry has been accused of directing racial comments towards Queen's Park Rangers (QPR) Defender Anton Ferdinand. John Terry certainly deserves his day in Criminal Court and before the Football Association. However that Criminal Court case has been put off till July - AFTER the European Championship are held. It would be unconscionable for John Terry to be selected to Captain England under these circumstances:
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 13:48:36 GMT
And just to be clear: If a QPR player was accused of what John Terry was accused of, I would expect him to be stripped of the QPR Captaincy pending the hearing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 13:52:13 GMT
And just to be clear: If a QPR player was accused of what John Terry was accused of, I would expect him to be stripped of the QPR Captaincy pending the hearing. Lucky our captain is cystal clean then
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 13:54:25 GMT
Well I haven't exactly been the bigger backer of Joey Barton at QPR!
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 14:10:25 GMT
Imagine being stuck in a lift with Joey Barton & John Terry, I think I'd rather top myself.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 14:40:25 GMT
33 signatories
Some way to go to get to that million mark!
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 1, 2012 14:55:41 GMT
This is something that the FA can't deal with. What I don't understand is why Anton hasn't got himself a decent personal injury lawyer and just get this one out of the press and get it resolved. Let's face it ... No ones been physically injured or killed here ...
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Post by northolthoop on Feb 1, 2012 16:03:12 GMT
You should post the link on forums of other clubs, bound to get a few signatures
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 16:19:53 GMT
Great idea...If anyone should per chance feel so inclined to post the petition link on any other boards (including Chelsea's....)
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Feb 1, 2012 17:26:30 GMT
98 names so far. It needs to be crossposted and added to the blog.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 18:20:44 GMT
Well it's added to the blog (and will put in tomorrow)
There is a link of a Terry thread on LFW. What our sister boards do is up to them.
But of course to get to the Million signatories mark (999,896 to go!)....will need beyond the QPR board.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 18:24:15 GMT
I tried to sign up with Man U Board. But they don't allow email accounts from aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo. (which is what most people use!) "The administrator has banned your email address. If you are trying to register a new account, please note that email address from Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, AOL and other free email providers are not allowed. Please use the email address supplied by your ISP. To contact the administrator click here" www.redcafe.net/register.php?do=addmember
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 1, 2012 18:37:38 GMT
From Change.org... "Congratulations, denise capp from United Kingdom was the 100th person to sign your petition: Strip John Terry of the England Captaincy Pending Trial and FA Hearing This is a huge milestone or your campaign! Getting your first 100 signatures is the hardest part of any petition. Now that you've got a base of excited supporters, take your petition to the next level - recruit some promoters too! To get more people sharing your petition, find one or two supporters to help you build awareness. Use email, Facebook, and Twitter to let people know you're looking for help spreading your campaign. You can even post a note at the bottom of your petition description. Being a petition promoter is easy, all your promoters need to do is post your petition on Facebook, email or IM friends, or get some bloggers to put up your widget. You can even send them this link with lots of ideas about how they can help out: www.change.org/info/how-to-promote-your-petition Remember, word of mouth is still the most powerful way to gain support for any online campaign. So, if you can find just one other person to promote your petition as passionately as you, you'll double your impact. Thanks, - The Change.org Team
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Post by Bushman on Feb 2, 2012 0:58:05 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 2, 2012 7:41:54 GMT
John Terry's Response (through his lawyer) Sporting Life
JOHN TERRY CALLED TO STAND DOWNThere have been calls for John Terry to stand aside as England skipper until the conclusion of his court case later this year. Terry denies racially abusing Anton Ferdinand at Loftus Road in October. As England coach Fabio Capello has previously stated his intention to continue selecting his captain until the conclusion of the case, confirmation that Terry's five-day hearing will not take place until July 9 seems certain to rubber-stamp the Chelsea captain's place at this summer's Euro 2012 finals in Poland and Ukraine. However, there are some who feel that Terry should not be selected due to the extreme sensitivities of the allegation that has been levelled against him, and the fact the player he is accused of abusing is the brother of Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand, who still has a chance of being selected himself. Damian Collins MP, a member of the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, has voiced his opinion on Twitter. "John Terry should stand aside as captain until the case is resolved, and any doubt either way removed," he said. The call was endorsed by Piara Powar, the executive director of European football's anti-discrimination body - Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE). "Innocent until proven guilty," he Tweeted. "But should John Terry remain as England capt through the Euros? I can't see how he can." Reading striker and radio pundit Jason Roberts Tweeted: "Believe me...the Dressing room at the Euros will be TOXIC unless the correct decision is made..!!! "Innocent until proven Guilty...I have also noted that Woodgate and Bowyer where suspended from England Duty pending there Assault Charges???" The FA have not made any comment on the matter and Capello is unlikely to make any public statement until the days before England's friendly with Holland at Wembley on February 29. At Westminster Magistrates' Court in London on Wednesday, a not guilty plea was entered on Terry's behalf by his barrister, George Carter-Stephenson QC. England's first game at Euro 2012 is a Group D encounter with France in Donetsk on June 11, with the final due to be played in Kiev on July 1. If convicted Terry faces a maximum fine of £2,500. He was charged in December last year and said at the time he would fight "tooth and nail" to prove his innocence. Immediately after Wednesday's hearing, Terry issued a statement through his solicitors Grosvenor Law, saying: "Now that the court has fixed a date for trial, Mr Terry looks forward to the opportunity to clear his name.
"Mr Terry has consistently and resolutely maintained that his well-publicised remarks were made in the belief that he was being accused of racist abuse by Mr Ferdinand.
"Mr Terry was shocked and disgusted by that accusation at the time. Mr Terry denies making any racist statement, and will establish in court that he is not guilty of any such offence.
"Mr Terry has never racially abused another player in his entire career. Mr Terry respects the Court process and co-operated fully and proactively with those investigating this matter.
"His legal team will put forward a detailed and robust defence at a proper time and place; in a Court of law. There will be no further statement about this matter until after the trial."www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/02/02/SOCCER_Terry_England.html&BID=165
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Feb 2, 2012 8:24:54 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 2, 2012 9:15:42 GMT
Premier League to allow John Terry handshake snubBy Danielle Joynson, Reporter Filed: Thursday, February 2, 2012 at 09:02 UK www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/news/pl-to-allow-terry-handshake-snub_15263.htmlThe Premier League have decided not to scrap the pre-match handshakes between Manchester United and Chelsea on Sunday, despite the likelihood of Rio Ferdinand refusing to shake John Terry's hand. Reports have claimed that the Red Devils defender is expected to snub the pre-match formality in defence of his Queens Park Rangers brother Anton Ferdinand, who is an alleged victim of racial abuse from the Chelsea captain. While the Football Association chose to stop the traditional handshake for the Blues' 1-0 FA Cup fourth-round win over QPR last week, the Premier League will take no such action, according to the Daily Star. The England skipper discovered yesterday that he will stand trial over racism charges from July 9 after pleading not guilty via his lawyers at Westminster Magistrates four www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/news/pl-to-allow-terry-handshake-snub_15263.html
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 2, 2012 9:20:52 GMT
BBC John Terry 'will not stand down as England captain' By Dan Roan BBC Sports News Correspondent John Terry will not resign as England captain despite facing trial over racial abuse allegations, according to a source close to the player. The Chelsea defender is due to face charges on 9 July after an incident involving QPR's Anton Ferdinand in the teams' Premier League match in October. "He won't stand down. He is sure of his innocence and thus feels it would be wrong to do so," said the source. Reading's Jason Roberts has said that Terry should not play at Euro 2012. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16846990
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 16:06:46 GMT
"Reading's Jason Roberts has said that Terry should not play at Euro 2012"
Not to bothered about what Jason Roberts has to say because he seems to criticise everybody that is white at every opportunity. I bet he didn't criticise a certain sewer rat for saying f*** o** white boy to a 14 year old ball boy.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 2, 2012 22:51:04 GMT
The petition already is having an impact ESPN FA to make Terry captain decision The Football Association are expected to decide as early as Friday whether John Terry should give up the England captaincy due to his racism trial. FA chairman David Bernstein has contacted all the other members of the 12-strong board to seek their views on Terry's captaincy after Wednesday's announcement that the Chelsea defender's court case, where he is accused of racially abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand will not take place until July 9 - after Euro 2012. More than one board member have argued strongly that Terry should not be the England figurehead with such a serious charge hanging over him, and that the FA should act immediately rather than putting off a decision until the next board meeting on February 23. The spectre of England being forced to make a complaint about racist abuse from the crowd when playing matches in Ukraine this summer has been raised - it would be difficult for the FA to take the moral high ground if England's captain is himself facing a criminal charge for racism. Other board members believe the FA are in a no-win situation and that if they remove the England captaincy from Terry they will be accused of pre-judging the case and ignoring the principle of innocent-until-proven guilty. Terry's barrister entered a formal 'not guilty' plea at Westminster magistrates court on Wednesday. England manager Fabio Capello is another factor and the Italian has previously insisted that he should be the one making the decisions over the captain. Some significant voices have been raised calling for Terry to stand aside, while reports on Thursday quoted sources close to the player saying he had no intention of resigning the captaincy. Damian Collins, a Tory MP who sits on the culture, media and sport committee and who has made a name for himself as a campaigner for FIFA reform, said Terry had to stand aside. Collins said: "He is in a public position as England captain. Anyone else in a public position faced with such a criminal charge would stand aside from their position and then if cleared be able to return to that position. "This has gone beyond being an allegation. He has been charged and has to appear in court and I don't think under those circumstances he can fulfil his duties. "It is also what it means for communities across the country if people just close their eyes to the situation until after the court case." Piara Powar, the executive director of UEFA-funding European anti-discrimination body Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) also believes the captaincy has to be removed. Piara said on his Twitter account: "Innocent until proven guilty. But should John Terry remain as England capt through the Euros? I can't see how he can." The possible presence of Rio Ferdinand, Anton's brother, in the England squad could also be a factor - something referred to by Reading striker and BBC radio pundit Jason Roberts who said: "Believe me...the dressing room at the Euros will be TOXIC unless the correct decision is made." www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item746305/FA-to-make-Terry-captain-decision/
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 3, 2012 8:20:28 GMT
Is it the FA's Decision or Capello? And if they make decision he doesn't want, maybe...he'll quit!
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Feb 3, 2012 9:03:33 GMT
John Terry: FA set to remove England captaincy By David Bond BBC sports editor
The Football Association is set to remove the England captaincy from John Terry, the BBC has learned.
FA chairman David Bernstein has spoken to board members and the majority view is Terry should be stood down. He would still be available for selection for the national team.
It would be the second time Terry, 31, has been stripped of the captaincy.
He is due to stand trial in July over racial abuse allegations after an incident with QPR's Anton Ferdinand. Continue reading the main story
“The court case should have been dealt with immediately. As a result the FA have got themselves in an incredible tangle of him playing but not being captain”
Mark Perryman England supporters' club chief
The Chelsea defender has entered a plea of not guilty to the charge.
Bernstein is expected to speak to England manager Fabio Capello about the issue on Friday. An official announcement could be made before the weekend.
Capello has until now maintained the position that Terry is innocent until proven guilty and that he should be free to select him as his captain until his trial is over.
There is some nervousness among board members as to how the Italian will react, with some fearing he will see it as undue interference in team affairs.
But there is now an acceptance among the FA hierarchy that the matter should be taken out of his hands.
The FA has been forced to act after Terry's case was adjourned until 9 July - a week after the Euro 2012 finals end - ensuring that the affair will dominate the build-up to the championships.
For some time now Bernstein has been growing increasingly concerned at the FA's position on Terry.
Some board members have lobbied him to take decisive action to ensure the FA is not accused of being weak on racism.
Black players within the England squad have also been putting pressure on the Professional Footballers' Association to take a stronger stance on Terry.
This is believed to have also played a part in forcing the FA to act.
Terry was previously stripped of the captaincy when Capello removed him from the role in February 2010 following allegations he had an affair with an England team-mate's ex-girlfriend. England's pre-Euro 2012 fixtures
29 Feb v Netherlands (h)
26 May v Norway (a)
2 June v Belgium (h)
Terry was reinstated 13 months later with Capello saying "one year of punishment is enough".
Former FA chief executive Mark Palios questioned why the FA is set to change its stance on Terry, having kept him as captain since the allegations were first made in October.
He told BBC Radio 5 live: "What the FA has to do is a balancing act between the rights of the individual and the wider game. I don't know how that will affect the dressing room and make it better than it was by keeping him in the squad but taking the captaincy off him."
Mark Perryman, of the England supporters' club, told 5 live it was difficult to understand why the case was taking 10 months to come to court.
"The court case should have been dealt with immediately," he said. "As a result the FA have got themselves in an incredible tangle of him playing but not being captain.
"Mark Palios is right to question what has happened in the last 24 hours to make the FA act."
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 3, 2012 12:06:36 GMT
Done and Dusted!
Unstickying
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Post by andygg on Feb 3, 2012 12:54:30 GMT
Well done, good job.
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Post by sharky on Feb 3, 2012 14:23:17 GMT
Wow it worked real fast!!
Mac ever thought of going into politics?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 14:44:52 GMT
I think the right decision has been made but if he does end up being found not guilty i'm sure he will shouting his mouth off for some sort of compensation
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