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Post by nomar on Jan 20, 2012 19:21:41 GMT
With Hitman on this one.
You're not alone mate, and I reckon a lot of stuff will come out in time that will put some clarity on the situation.
Like you I firmly believe Warnock lost if not all of the dressing room then certainly a large part of it quite some time ago.
Out of Barton and Warnock only one of those two is going to do be able to affect whether we stay up now. The other has played his part already and regrettably left us in the relegation zone.
Getting behind the one who still has a direct effect on what happens to us over the next 17 games may be a wise idea, then, given the circumstances.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 20, 2012 19:23:03 GMT
Woooah klr my freind . We got a game to win . 6 pointer fu****ng massive do or die shit or bust leveller.. We need our midfield maestro  i'd rather he go now and take the chance whether he could keep us up or not. that QPR shirt means more to me than that pr1ck |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 20, 2012 19:25:14 GMT
With Hitman on this one. You're not alone mate, and I reckon a lot of stuff will come out in time that will put some clarity on the situation. Like you I firmly believe Warnock lost if not all of the dressing room then certainly a large part of it quite some time ago. Out of Barton and Warnock only one of those two is going to do be able to affect whether we stay up now. The other has played his part already and regrettably left us in the relegation zone. Getting behind the one who still has a direct effect on what happens to us over the next 17 games may be a wise idea, then, given the circumstances. where do you draw the line to gain prem survival? |
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Post by blandy on Jan 20, 2012 19:26:52 GMT
listening now to a huge QPR legend and one who wore the shirt with pride...........sure Big Mouth Barton will share a tweet about this too.........but hope you are listening to it Joey and are gonna try to put in half the effort Alan Mac did..........#proveyourselfsonny
We love you Macca ....we do ....
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Post by blandy on Jan 20, 2012 19:29:21 GMT
well said Macca..............lads have to 'roll their sleeves up'..................MACCA = LEGEND
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 20, 2012 19:29:29 GMT
I do remember even after he was axed in a slimey manner by you know who, Alan Macdonald wouldnt say a bad word about QPR. A true legend...
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 20, 2012 19:36:14 GMT
F*cking hell, he really has got a screw loose, his time at QPR is over whether he likes it or not, just F*ck off out of our club you complete & utter arrogant fruitcake, worst QPR captain of alltime & a complete C*nt to boot, what's not to like ?! He's badly overstepped the mark here, no way back for him in my estimations. too right |
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Post by klr on Jan 20, 2012 19:45:26 GMT
QPR Captain.....................  Dont know about anyone else, but I've never seen a bigger embarrassment representing QPR as "captain" in all my 33 years.... Proper screw loose, fruit cake business, he's got more business being in the big brother house than being given the honour of being QPR captain, i'll spell it out loud & clear, JUST F UCK OFF OUT OF OUR CLUB JOEY.  |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 20, 2012 19:47:51 GMT
QPR Captain..................... Dont know about anyone else, but I've never seen a bigger embarrassment representing QPR as "captain" in all my 33 years.... Proper screw loose, fruit cake business, he's got more business being in the big brother house than being given the honour of being QPR captain, i'll spell it out loud & clear, JUST F UCK OFF OUT OF OUR CLUB JOEY. Funny you say that about Big Brother, I was just thinking to myself that he will end up in the BB house eventually. |
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Post by klr on Jan 20, 2012 19:54:07 GMT
QPR Captain..................... Dont know about anyone else, but I've never seen a bigger embarrassment representing QPR as "captain" in all my 33 years.... Proper screw loose, fruit cake business, he's got more business being in the big brother house than being given the honour of being QPR captain, i'll spell it out loud & clear, JUST F UCK OFF OUT OF OUR CLUB JOEY. Funny you say that about Big Brother, I was just thinking to myself that he will end up in the BB house eventually. If it was up to me, I'd put the fruitcake in there tonight & let all the other desperate freaks out first so they dont have to endure the tedium of the utterly ridiculous fruitcake who has somehow ended up as QPR captain, I know I talked him up when we signed him, but I'll hold my hands up & proclaim loudly, THIS IS A REAL LOW POINT FOR US LADS! Premiership, Championship, League 1, couldnt give a toss, we arent that sort of club, what I do give a toss about is fruitcakes like this HUMILIATING our football club 24/7 in the media & taking home £80 grand a week for the privilege, complete & utter madness. |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 20, 2012 19:54:28 GMT
Mike Keen....Terry Venables...Gerry Francis....Alan Macdonald and on: Great, distinguished QPR Captains...
Our last two havent been two hot. One was a child. One, well I'm not sure what he should be callled
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Post by klr on Jan 20, 2012 19:58:06 GMT
Steve Palmer was a fantastic captain & leader of men
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 20, 2012 19:59:19 GMT
Rod...neee
RodneyMarsh10 Rodney Marsh
Just for transparency, I saw Barton as an 18 year old,he was brilliant... i said to Joe Royle "this kid could go all the way" He hasn't..!
Would have been better if Joey Barton would have said all those things to Warnock's face..! Hope Mark Hughes is paying attention...!
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Post by nomar on Jan 20, 2012 20:00:40 GMT
He may well end up in big bro house but right now he's one of only 2 premier quality midfielders we have.
As for your question, Maude, its imperative we stay up. I am only interested in what and who can help us get the points we need to stay up
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 20, 2012 20:01:39 GMT
Premiership, Championship, League 1, couldnt give a toss, we arent that sort of club, what I do give a toss about is fruitcakes like this HUMILIATING our football club 24/7 in the media & taking home £80 grand a week for the privilege, complete & utter madness. the most sense any poster has ever said at any time in the history of posting.  and i mean that. |
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Post by gthompson66 on Jan 20, 2012 20:08:31 GMT
Warnock has earned his right to be regarded as a QPR legend and some of our players and club officials would be well advised to remember that - he is entitled to respect.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 20, 2012 20:09:28 GMT
He may well end up in big bro house but right now he's one of only 2 premier quality midfielders we have. As for your question, Maude, its imperative we stay up. I am only interested in what and who can help us get the points we need to stay up understand your view nomar, but this guy is making us look like desperate fans with no respect for our club. if he were at any other club and said that, and the fans was ok about it...... i would pity them. i'm bigger than that, and so are ALL QPR fans. i am prouder of my club, fans and history where ever we may be, than premiership survival whilst losing our dignity |
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Post by klr on Jan 20, 2012 20:13:27 GMT
I dont care who signed him, he needs to leave QPR ASAP, treating the club & the fans worse than something he would wipe his ar se with, took the p!ss for far too long, now he has badly overstepped the mark & for me that is the straw that has broken the camel's back...adios.
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 20, 2012 20:16:40 GMT
Booing Barton tomorrow will do no good whatsoever and i hope nobody boos him , i wouldnt .
The blokes a fool but he's our fool and until we get a replacement we need him !
Has anyone thought NW knew exactly what he was doing igniting the fire less than 48 hrs before kick off in a game that decides our season , he knew exactly how Barton would respond
and as much as i dislike Barton ive lost respect for Neil these last few days !
The danger in booing Barton is there could be players on that pitch that have the same opinion as Barton re the poor level or training and Coaching that appears to have gone on !
This will just lead to an even further dire performance and Wigan must be P1ssing themselves laughing at the minute!
Bartons not fit to be a QPR Captain agree , but if the coaching was as bad as some make out , then maybe just maybe someone had to go behind NWs back as it was going to be the only way to get it resolved .
The best thing Hughes can do now is a put a total ban on this Fcuking tweeting it just leads to more and situations that Football Clubs could well do without .
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Post by cpr on Jan 20, 2012 20:17:36 GMT
F*cking hell, he really has got a screw loose, his time at QPR is over whether he likes it or not, just F*ck off out of our club you complete & utter arrogant fruitcake, worst QPR captain of alltime & a complete C*nt to boot, what's not to like ?! He's badly overstepped the mark here, no way back for him in my estimations. |
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Post by schuter82 on Jan 20, 2012 20:19:20 GMT
I think both of them have some blame here. It started out with what could be perceived as a parting shot from Barton calling Warnock a "great championship manager" I believe.
Neil comes back with what could be perceived as calling Barton and twitter some of the "poisonous internal and external" things that cost him his job (which for the recod I think is massive bs.)
And Joey being Joey, decides to stop pussyfooting around the issue and calls the situation, and warnock out as he sees it. Thats Joey, its not gona change whether we like it or not.
While I disagree with Joey's decision to engage in this back and forth - he certainly should show more discretion as a captain - Warnock should be a professional too, regardless of his employment status with the club.
My question is this: regardless of how it was said, who has more truth to their statements - joey for calling out the training and coaching as being subpar (results on the field seemed to confirm this) or warnock for some delusional belief that the board are clueless and were poisoned by internal forces (players, management etc) and, yes, fans via twitter. I tend to think Joey's side has more truth.
All in all, I hope this has got Barton riled up, and he puts in his best performance as a hoop to date. What happens to him this summer will be Hughes and Co. making a decision that is best for the club. And I will support that, whether he stays or goes.
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Post by cpr on Jan 20, 2012 20:21:36 GMT
With Hitman on this one. You're not alone mate, and I reckon a lot of stuff will come out in time that will put some clarity on the situation. Like you I firmly believe Warnock lost if not all of the dressing room then certainly a large part of it quite some time ago. Out of Barton and Warnock only one of those two is going to do be able to affect whether we stay up now. The other has played his part already and regrettably left us in the relegation zone. Getting behind the one who still has a direct effect on what happens to us over the next 17 games may be a wise idea, then, given the circumstances. It's clear who he lost and it wasn't the dressing room. Do you honestly believe that a sacked manager and his coaching staff go to the training ground to say goodbye to players who they'd lost? |
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Post by jayrigg on Jan 20, 2012 20:23:52 GMT
Well well what a surprise  I have got to say to me the writing was on the wall since day one. People like him always get found out when the club struggles. Please people, do not defend this nasty piece of scum, this goes beyond premiership,championship or whatever league we end up in and i personally do not care if he is man of the match in every game from now until end of the season, he is no Rangers skipper or player.I am sure he will have ''loads'' to say about us the fans when he finally departs and he will i think, probably sooner than everyone thinks!! cheers, Jay |
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Post by cpr on Jan 20, 2012 20:24:49 GMT
I think both of them have some blame here. It started out with what could be perceived as a parting shot from Barton calling Warnock a "great championship manager" I believe. Neil comes back with what could be perceived as calling Barton and twitter some of the "poisonous internal and external" things that cost him his job (which for the recod I think is massive bs.) And Joey being Joey, decides to stop pussyfooting around the issue and calls the situation, and warnock out as he sees it. Thats Joey, its not gona change whether we like it or not. While I disagree with Joey's decision to engage in this back and forth - he certainly should show more discretion as a captain - Warnock should be a professional too, regardless of his employment status with the club. My question is this: regardless of how it was said, who has more truth to their statements - joey for calling out the training and coaching as being subpar (results on the field seemed to confirm this) or warnock for some delusional belief that the board are clueless and were poisoned by internal forces (players, management etc) and, yes, fans via twitter. I tend to think Joey's side has more truth. All in all, I hope this has got Barton riled up, and he puts in his best performance as a hoop to date. What happens to him this summer will be Hughes and Co. making a decision that is best for the club. And I will support that, whether he stays or goes. Your mate Joey must be right, after all, he's done so much for the club hasn't he!  |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 20, 2012 20:32:08 GMT
well warnock seemed to do all right in training the last two years, i suppose because WHATEVER he's methods he had the players respect.
now enter barton, not exactly the shy retiring type, being used to a different type of manager, so he talks to other players, other players listen.
maybe thats where the dressing room went.
and before hitman jumps in, i am QPR,
there has been better managers at our club but all of them achieved what they did with so called mediocre players, so did neil, relationship works in football but because of circumstances neil did not get that chance to progress it.
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Post by schuter82 on Jan 20, 2012 20:39:16 GMT
Your mate Joey must be right, after all, he's done so much for the club hasn't he! I think you are missing my point a bit. I agree Neil has and deserves our respect, as he did a fair amount for the club. Far more than Barton, who has done nothing thus far except play below his standard form, and wind up bs. (though i think the squad misses him on the pitch the last 3 matches.) Just saying, both have some blame here, and I think there is a bit more truth to what Barton said. Not saying he's right for taking the bait and coming out with it though. |
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 20, 2012 20:42:19 GMT
well warnock seemed to do all right in training the last two years, i suppose because WHATEVER he's methods he had the players respect.now enter barton, not exactly the shy retiring type, being used to a different type of manager, so he talks to other players, other players listen.maybe thats where the dressing room went. and before hitman jumps in, i am QPR, there has been better managers at our club but all of them achieved what they did with so called mediocre players, so did neil, relationship works in football but because of circumstances neil did not get that chance to progress it. As highlighted. Most probably the case Maude ! |
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Post by bradfieldhoop on Jan 20, 2012 20:42:34 GMT
How many off us know or knows what goes on or has gone on--so have your view but hold your judgement.
I am not a JB supporter and I did advocate NW to go.
I did see NW on sky giving it the large and I thought shut up--you've been handsomely paid off,will no doubt have plenty of other job offers so therefore the impact of losing your job isn't what it is to most of us. So he wished us luck pre Newcastle (good gesture) then undid the gesture by opening up and sniping--the quality of a man is to keep his own counsel until absolutely necessary and I saw no reason for him to start the war.
He knew JB would bite and it has no doubt had the effect he wanted but I didn't see any poking at NW pre his outburst.He also knew this would unsettle the club so I don't understand why --a bitter man I guess.
That said JB should have kept his counsel too which puts them both down as overly opinionated, egotistical idiots with minimal intellect.
I'm not a NW is our saviour man--he did a good job and was paid for it--it's now down to JB to do his job otherwise he will go the same way--but send your thoughts to them by twitter and email --please don't turn on anyone tomorrow as whatever happens we will still be here long after they have gone and it would be best if we were still in the prem.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 20, 2012 20:44:16 GMT
Your mate Joey must be right, after all, he's done so much for the club hasn't he! I think you are missing my point a bit. I agree Neil has and deserves our respect, as he did a fair amount for the club. Far more than Barton, who has done nothing thus far except play below his standard form, and wind up bs. (though i think the squad misses him on the pitch the last 3 matches.) Just saying, both have some blame here, and I think there is a bit more truth to what Barton said. Not saying he's right for taking the bait and coming out with it though. The squad haven't missed Joey, they've missed Faurlin. |
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Post by cpr on Jan 20, 2012 20:47:58 GMT
Your mate Joey must be right, after all, he's done so much for the club hasn't he! I think you are missing my point a bit. I agree Neil has and deserves our respect, as he did a fair amount for the club. Far more than Barton, who has done nothing thus far except play below his standard form, and wind up bs. (though i think the squad misses him on the pitch the last 3 matches.) Just saying, both have some blame here, and I think there is a bit more truth to what Barton said. Not saying he's right for taking the bait and coming out with it though. Fair play and I probably did miss the point. I simply noted you referred to one as Joey and another as Warnock and therefore picked up on an implied favouritism, apologies as that was not the case. Although euqally guilty perhaps, Colin is gone, what he says can be interpreted how anyone cares to. Barton is club captain and therefore a club representative, he should not be getting involved in denigrating past club employees. |
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