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Post by harlowranger on Feb 26, 2012 14:23:17 GMT
LDLLLDLLLWDLLL
We are a team with one win in there last 14 games . 10 defeats from 14 . 6 points from 42 points .
Yet we will stay up with our fixtures ?
Where exactly will our points come from .
The 33 -34 points we got last time in the Prem seem an absolute mile away now , this 14 game ended our season .
We went from a team of fighters last season , a team that never gave up like at Derby Away , to a team that sometimes looks disinterested and continually flatters to deceive.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 26, 2012 15:27:41 GMT
everyone said we would beat fulham as their away form was so shite. then befoe that they said we would beat blackburn, and wolves and sunderland etc etc etc. getting taught a horribel lesson that we are jst not good enough or anywhere near ready for this division. sad but true. if we ever get up again, at least we will have a bit more experience and should have learnt a few lessons like the likes of zamora and barton and swp will not keep you in this league no matter how many millions you give them.
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Post by harlowranger on Feb 26, 2012 18:55:29 GMT
Dont think you can put Zamora in with those other two Mike , way unfair , hes only played a couple of games or so . I would be happy to have Zamora play for us in the Championship if he would , wouldnt want the other two now though.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 26, 2012 19:26:59 GMT
i just dont think he was a very good buy harlow, same as dj and bothroyd. hes not an out and out striker and his best days are behind him. would rather of gone for that huddersfield bloke or someone else young and hungry.
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Post by harlowranger on Feb 26, 2012 20:01:48 GMT
We already bought Young i thought , whos this Hungry guy !
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Post by harlowranger on Feb 26, 2012 20:13:24 GMT
Not sure i agree gate12 , do you support QPR ? I notice you say you , rather than We? No. Gate12 is a declared Fulham and has posted a couple of times, but seems ok. Not like the Naaarwich lot. Alpha , you sure about this , i may need you do further vetting next time !
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 3, 2012 20:57:32 GMT
[/b][/td][td] Q.P.R[/td][td] Wolves[/td][td] Blackburn R[/td][td] Bolton Wan's [/td][td] Wigan Ath'c [/td][td] West Brom A [/td][/tr] [tr] [td]29-(17th March)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(H)[/td][td]Aston V(A)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td]Wigan(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]30-(24th March)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Norwich(A)[/td][td] Bolton(A)[/td][td] Blackburn(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]31-(31st March)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td] Bolton(H)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td] Wolves(A)[/td][td]Stoke(H)[/td][td]Everton(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]32-(7th April)[/td][td]Man Utd (A)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Fulham(H)[/td][td]Chelsea(A)[/td][td]Blackburn(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]33-(9th April)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Newcastle(A)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td]Man City(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]34-(14th April)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(A)[/td][td]QPR(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]35-(21st April)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Man City(H)[/td][td]Norwich(H)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Fulham(A)[/td][td]Liverpool(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]36-(28th April)[/td][td]Chelsea (A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][td]Aston V(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]37-(5th May)[/td][td]Stoke (H)[/td][td]Everton(H)[/td][td] Wigan(H)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td] Blackburn(A)[/td][td]Bolton(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]38-(12th May)[/td][td]Man City (A)[/td][td] Wigan(A)[/td][td]Chelsea(H)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td] Wolves(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [/table] [/quote] Still say the games in RED will lead to our demise ... Weve blown plenty of oppurtunities these last 8 games .
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 3, 2012 21:04:43 GMT
So what happens games week 30 and 31 Rory .when we are at Sunderland and Home to Arsenal . Theres a chance two of the four pick up 3 points there and again the last two games of the season when we play Stoke and City .
Also if we lose at Bolton and theres a result between Blackburn and Wolves ..
I Dont get why everyone thinks we are going to turn over the top 6 , we were clueless at Anfield and at Highbury , Average against Man u and did well against City and Spurs second half .
Really we played 1 1/2 good halfs out of 10 .
Now all of a sudden we are not scared of those 6 teams yet we cant beat the bottom ones , weird ?
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 4, 2012 19:19:45 GMT
When you look at Wigans next 8 games NORWICH AWAY - not easy best 1 point WBA Home -WBA good form , but benefit of doubt give them a home win 3 points Liverpool Away -loss 0 Stoke home - benefit of doubt give them a home win 3 points . Chelsea A LOSS 0 Man U h LOSS 0 Arsenal Away LOSS Fulham Away Loss . theres no way Wigan will have more than 27 points with three games to go AGREE then they have Newcastle H , Blackburn A and Wolves H ,say they win 1 , lose 1 , draw 1 ,4 points . Cant see Wigan getting more than 31 POINTS ,could we finish above Wigan with 3 wins and a draw .
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 10, 2012 21:11:01 GMT
[/b][/td][td] Q.P.R[/td][td] Wolves[/td][td] Blackburn R[/td][td] Bolton Wan's [/td][td] Wigan Ath'c [/td][td] West Brom A [/td][/tr] [tr] [td]29-(21st March)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]........[/td][td]........[/td][td]Aston V(A)tba[/td][td]........[/td][td]........[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]30-(24th March)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Norwich(A)[/td][td] Bolton(A)[/td][td] Blackburn(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]31-(31st March)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td] Bolton(H)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td] Wolves(A)[/td][td]Stoke(H)[/td][td]Everton(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]32-(7th April)[/td][td]Man Utd (A)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Fulham(H)[/td][td]Chelsea(A)[/td][td]Blackburn(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]33-(9th April)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Newcastle(A)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td]Man City(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]34-(14th April)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(A)[/td][td]QPR(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]35-(21st April)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Man City(H)[/td][td]Norwich(H)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Fulham(A)[/td][td]Liverpool(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]36-(28th April)[/td][td]Chelsea (A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][td]Aston V(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]37-(5th May)[/td][td]Stoke (H)[/td][td]Everton(H)[/td][td] Wigan(H)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td] Blackburn(A)[/td][td]Bolton(A)[/td][/tr] [tr] [td]38-(12th May)[/td][td]Man City (A)[/td][td] Wigan(A)[/td][td]Chelsea(H)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td] Wolves(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][/tr] [tr] [/table] [/quote]
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Post by Jon Doeman on Mar 10, 2012 21:17:52 GMT
Out of us and Bolton, and I'd say with those 3 points for them today and the home games against teams with little to play for. We are dead in the water.
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Post by mikehunt on Mar 11, 2012 0:11:52 GMT
lovely little six easy points for the mighty bolotn off us. down.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Mar 11, 2012 0:19:49 GMT
lovely little six easy points for the mighty bolotn off us. down. yeah, we might of well as bought a card saying ' happy survival' and a bunch of flowers at kickoff
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Post by Jon Doeman on Mar 11, 2012 9:13:08 GMT
lovely little six easy points for the mighty bolotn off us. down. gave them all down there, easy points.
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 20, 2012 23:21:53 GMT
[/b][/td][td] Q.P.R[/td][td] Wolves[/td][td] Blackburn R[/td][td] Bolton Wan's [/td][td] Wigan Ath'c [/td][td] [/td][/tr] [tr] [td]TBA April[/td][td].......[/td][td]........[/td][td]........[/td][td]Aston V(A)tba[/td][td]........[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]31-(31st March)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td] Bolton(H)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td] Wolves(A)[/td][td]Stoke(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]32-(7th April)[/td][td]Man Utd (A)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Fulham(H)[/td][td]Chelsea(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]33-(9th April)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Newcastle(A)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]34-(14th April)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]35-(21st April)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Man City(H)[/td][td]Norwich(H)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Fulham(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]36-(28th April)[/td][td]Chelsea (A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]37-(5th May)[/td][td]Stoke (H)[/td][td]Everton(H)[/td][td] Wigan(H)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td] Blackburn(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]38-(12th May)[/td][td]Man City (A)[/td][td] Wigan(A)[/td][td]Chelsea(H)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td] Wolves(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [/table] [/quote] [/quote]
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Post by Marc on Mar 22, 2012 13:22:37 GMT
No problem Wins against Swansea, WBA & Stoke - 34 points and safety Couple of draws and a lucky shock win against the big boys and it's all good.
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Post by londonranger on Mar 22, 2012 14:04:26 GMT
Have to must do, keep the same back four together for rest of season and gain some confidence.
Lpool were unlucky not to have scored two more in middle of match. Scissor man and suarez were really so hard.
Basically, can that win ignite a survive at all costs mentality instead of the look of the lost souls.
We will fight them at the beaches, we will endure, we will use broomsticks, we will prevail.
It is not the end, it is not the beginning of the end. It is the end of the beginning.
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 22, 2012 14:04:37 GMT
No problem Wins against Swansea, WBA & Stoke - 34 points and safety Couple of draws and a lucky shock win against the big boys and it's all good. Hope your right fabs . or a Sunderland point or two . We would still need 3 more wins and one may be two draws . That would give us 35 or 36 with a superior GD the other 3 would need to get 37 if we could get 3 wins and 2 draws. For Wigan and Wolves to get 37 from 22 , they would need to win 5 of there last 9 games or win 4 draw 3 and lose just two thats a big ask and couldnt see either reaching 36-37 . For Bolton to get 37 from 23 they would need 14 points 4 wins and 2 draws from there 10 games . That is achievable , especially with Blackburn and Wolves there next 2 games . If BOLTON V BLACKBURN is not a Draw Saturday we want Blackburn to win . Followed by a draw Wolves v Bolton next week. Wigans next 5 games , i doubt they will overtake us even if we stood still.
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Post by londonranger on Mar 22, 2012 14:09:22 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Mar 22, 2012 14:13:59 GMT
Injury time Death of Liverpool, was our finest hour.
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 22, 2012 14:25:26 GMT
Yes i played that speech over and over about 50 times at weekend for my youngest sons homework had to write it down from the original soundings , his words are sometimes not to clear , think it was his false teeth ! Did you know that from the original speech he did most of the ones on the internet have had the sentence removed where he mentions the nazis etc . Must admit thought it was terrific speech. If only Barton could make a speech like that at half time .
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 24, 2012 17:23:31 GMT
8 To go , the top 5 in that bunch , oh well.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Mar 24, 2012 19:54:29 GMT
8 To go , the top 5 in that bunch , oh well. As good as gone H.
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 24, 2012 19:58:22 GMT
It's character and heart and team morale and bonding...I doubt we have it. I doubt we'll do it.
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 24, 2012 20:04:36 GMT
After losing to 3 of the 4 in our group in a 5 week spell it was over we knew it really , we wont finish bottom but its been a poor effort.
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Post by powerpump on Mar 25, 2012 3:34:46 GMT
The truth is the team is woefully inadequate and are certs to be relegated and likely we will finish bottom of the league. Time to prepare for next season and plan a new team. The sooner the thug Barton, SWP and a number of others are gone, the better we will be.
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Mar 25, 2012 5:57:21 GMT
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Post by harlowranger on Mar 26, 2012 9:55:08 GMT
[/b][/td][td] Q.P.R[/td][td] Wolves[/td][td] Blackburn R[/td][td] Bolton Wan's [/td][td] Wigan Ath'c [/td][td] [/td][/tr] [tr] [td]TBA April[/td][td].......[/td][td]........[/td][td]........[/td][td]Aston V(A)tba[/td][td]........[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]32-(7th April)[/td][td]Man Utd (A)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Fulham(H)[/td][td]Chelsea(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]33-(9th April)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Newcastle(A)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]34-(14th April)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]35-(21st April)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Man City(H)[/td][td]Norwich(H)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Fulham(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]36-(28th April)[/td][td]Chelsea (A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]37-(5th May)[/td][td]Stoke (H)[/td][td]Everton(H)[/td][td] Wigan(H)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td] Blackburn(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]38-(12th May)[/td][td]Man City (A)[/td][td] Wigan(A)[/td][td]Chelsea(H)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td] Wolves(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [/table] [/quote]
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Post by harlowranger on Apr 1, 2012 22:54:39 GMT
[/b][/td][td] Q.P.R[/td][td] Wolves[/td][td] Blackburn R[/td][td] Bolton Wan's [/td][td] Wigan Ath'c [/td][td] [/td][/tr] [tr] [td]TBA April[/td][td].......[/td][td]........[/td][td]........[/td][td]Aston V(A)tba[/td][td]........[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]32-(7th April)[/td][td]Man Utd (A)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Fulham(H)[/td][td]Chelsea(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]33-(9th April)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(H)[/td][td]Liverpool(H)[/td][td]Newcastle(A)[/td][td]Man Utd(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]34-(14th April)[/td][td]WBA(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Arsenal(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]35-(21st April)[/td][td]Spurs(H)[/td][td]Man City(H)[/td][td]Norwich(H)[/td][td]Swansea(H)[/td][td]Fulham(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]36-(28th April)[/td][td]Chelsea (A)[/td][td]Swansea(A)[/td][td]Spurs(A)[/td][td]Sunderl'd(A)[/td][td]Newcastle(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]37-(5th May)[/td][td]Stoke (H)[/td][td]Everton(H)[/td][td] Wigan(H)[/td][td]WBA(H)[/td][td] Blackburn(A)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [td]38-(12th May)[/td][td]Man City (A)[/td][td] Wigan(A)[/td][td]Chelsea(H)[/td][td]Stoke(A)[/td][td] Wolves(H)[/td][td][/td][/tr] [tr] [/table] [/quote] There we have it 7 to go , Wolves are goners , really 2 from 4 now and those two games in Red being draws could hold the key to our safety . Villa being brought itno it still unlikely, see them getting 2 wins from 8. The last two we wanted draws were not , ie , Bolton v Blackburn and Wolves v Bolton so who knows . Saturdays win gives us slight hope maybe.
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Post by londonranger on Apr 2, 2012 0:19:25 GMT
Our schedule is the most difficult,,the 4 top teams are all fighting for something. They cant let these teams put us back on the loser mentality. Here is where Hughes will be the difference if we do. To pick the right teams, to reward sucess and to know the enemies tactics and develop counter attacks, like we did v Assnl, strong committed work around the midfield and the penalty area. Rs were drifting back too much until Hughes corrected it.
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