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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 1:39:47 GMT
QPR thugs in new riot shame
Adam Courtney/Fulham Chronicle Rampaging football thugs caused 'hundreds' of pounds worth of damage to a Shepherd's Bush pub during violent clashes on Monday night. Supporters of QPR and Bristol City clashed at the British Queen in Uxbridge Road following the clubs' 2-2 draw Witnesses said thugs launched missiles including stones, bricks and planks of wood at the building, smashing windows and doors. The violence comes just months after W12 was left looking like a 'war zone' following Rangers' match against Millwall. One poster on the 'We are the Rangers Boys' website said the attack was 'the stuff of nightmares', with women and children caught up in the trouble. Other posters said the fight was caused when some QPR fans took exception to a group of about 20 travelling supporters inside the bar, which is a regular haunt for Hoops followers. Another was adamant the violence was caused by home fans, posting that the Bristol cointingent 'were drinking quietly troubling no one' and that QPR hooligans had 'smashed up their own pub'. David Mariner, who works at The Conningham, opposite the British Queen, agreed QPR fans were to blame. He said: "There were Bristol fans in the pub and they may have retaliated but it looked like QPR fans started it. "The police eventually arrived in riot gear and shepherded people away but the violence must have gone on for about 20 minutes. "The pub was very badly damaged, they've had to put new windows in and I think some speakers were smashed inside. It's cost hundreds." The violence comes just months after police made 11 arrests following a clash with Millwall in September, which also involved The Conningham and British Queen, but Mr Mariner doesn't believe the club is gaining a bad reputation for hooliganism. "I think the problems the other night were caused by renegades who are actually banned from the ground," he said. "We get QPR supporters in The Conningham all the time without any problems so I don't think things are any worse than they used to be." The landlord of The British Queen was unavailable for comment on Thursday, while The Chronicle is still waiting for a statement from the Met Police. Read More www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/local-fulham-and-hammersmith-news/2011/01/06/qpr-thugs-in-new-riot-shame-82029-27943671/#ixzz1AJFIVd8D
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Post by londonranger on Jan 7, 2011 2:49:58 GMT
Speechless! Names should be obtained and life bans. Our club cannot be desecrated by these savages.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 9:01:11 GMT
Shepherds Bush Blog shepherds-bush.blogspot.com/2011/01/qpr-morons-trash-british-queen-pub.htmlQPR morons trash British Queen pub A fan told of being "punched in the face" and being left "dazed" with "blurred vision" after being attacked in the street in Shepherd's Bush by a moron who claimed to be a supporter of QPR on this forum, one in a long line to report the trouble that occurred on Monday around the QPR Bristol City game. I walked past the pub yesterday and it is currently being repaired after a group, presumably including some of the same idiots I was kettled with courtesy of the Metropolitan Police in September, decided to attack a group of Bristol City fans who were by all accounts quietly minding their own business. A minibus and other vehicles were also attacked as fans left the stadium across W12 and it seems the Police had a hard time trying to ensure the safety of everyone because the trouble wasn't just confined to the pub. A pretty humiliating day for the club and it's genuine supporters, on behalf of whom I know I can say sorry to those Bristol fans, including those who had brought children, who had what must have been a horrendous day in Shepherd's Bush. shepherds-bush.blogspot.com/2011/01/qpr-morons-trash-british-queen-pub.html
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 7, 2011 11:14:23 GMT
Anyone who condones this type of moronic behaviour surely does not have the club's interests nor its reputation at heart. This is not cool. Everyone saying thr Brizzle fans were behaving and did not start anything. Real dumb from a few QPR associated fans.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 7, 2011 11:32:14 GMT
Anyone who condones this type of moronic behaviour surely does not have the club's interests nor its reputation at heart. This is not cool. Everyone saying thr Brizzle fans were behaving and did not start anything. Real dumb from a few QPR associated fans. Don't believe everything you read. Those Bristol fans were there to cause trouble.
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 7, 2011 11:53:02 GMT
Anyone who condones this type of moronic behavior surely does not have the club's interests nor its reputation at heart. This is not cool. Everyone saying thr Brizzle fans were behaving and did not start anything. Real dumb from a few QPR associated fans. First of all please accept that I do not in anyway condone what happened but the Bristol City fans involved had been looking for trouble all day and had arrived in Shepherds Bush at 11am with that sole intention They threatened families after the game and made it clear that they would be waiting at the British Queen if any QPR fans wanted trouble which of course some did
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Post by Bushman on Jan 7, 2011 12:09:13 GMT
Pub looked in a state with smashed windows as we drove past.
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Post by klr on Jan 7, 2011 13:20:17 GMT
Bristol City fans are scum & I hope they got a hiding.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 13:26:28 GMT
QPR Saints vs Bristol City Sinners?
Maybe....and clearly many people probably know exactly what happened
But the local press and local blogger, who would not seem to have a "dog in the fight" - and especially not to attack QPR, seem to find some fault with the QPR people involved.
Let the fans of any club who want to fight go off and fight with each other. Just leave the men, women and children and the local stores alone.
And leave to that one QPR fan site, the defenders and proponents of such activities.
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Post by weavie on Jan 7, 2011 13:30:37 GMT
well anyone who knows what qpr are about know that we are a family club but these bristol fans had come for trouble,its sad but thats what happens sometimes hopefully now there wont be any repercussioons in the furure
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 13:35:46 GMT
Any Millwall or Bristol City or Cardiff or any other club fan that engages in such violence should be condemned and punished. If all around the country, more were, then maybe things would be different.
But Weavie - although I'm banned by WATRB, I did happen to see that 10 page thread (and ongoing)...It sure looked to me like a number of QPR posters condone violence if it's done by QPR Fans.
Seen that in the past re such posts: It's fine to denounce the other teams thugs. But do so also if there are any QPR fans so involved. Maybe it's not a large number. But clearly there are QPR fans so involved.
Or if those who own that site want to actually endorse such activities, fine, let them do so. It comes as no surprise that it's been kept in the main part of that messageboard.
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 7, 2011 13:54:59 GMT
Any Millwall or Bristol City or Cardiff or any other club fan that engages in such violence should be condemned and punished. If all around the country, more were, then maybe things would be different. But Weavie - although I'm banned by WATRB, I did happen to see that 10 page thread (and ongoing)...It sure looked to me like a number of QPR posters condone violence if it's done by QPR Fans. Seen that in the past re such posts: It's fine to denounce the other teams thugs. But do so also if there are any QPR fans so involved. Maybe it's not a large number. But clearly there are QPR fans so involved. Or if those who own that site want to actually endorse such activities, fine, let them do so. It comes as no surprise that it's been kept in the main part of that messageboard. It is sadly no surprise again to see that your continued hatred of Pete and his messageboard has clouded your opinion All QPR messageboards have had related threads on what happened and all have have shall we say divided opinions and yet you would have all the readers on here believe it is purely WATRBS who are discussing it For some reason you have decided to ignore it all until today?
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 14:04:04 GMT
Any Millwall or Bristol City or Cardiff or any other club fan that engages in such violence should be condemned and punished. If all around the country, more were, then maybe things would be different. But Weavie - although I'm banned by WATRB, I did happen to see that 10 page thread (and ongoing)...It sure looked to me like a number of QPR posters condone violence if it's done by QPR Fans. Seen that in the past re such posts: It's fine to denounce the other teams thugs. But do so also if there are any QPR fans so involved. Maybe it's not a large number. But clearly there are QPR fans so involved. Or if those who own that site want to actually endorse such activities, fine, let them do so. It comes as no surprise that it's been kept in the main part of that messageboard. It is sadly no surprise again to see that your continued hatred of Pete and his messageboard has clouded your opinion All QPR messageboards have had related threads on what happened and all have have shall we say divided opinions and yet you would have all the readers on here believe it is purely WATRBS who are discussing it For some reason you have decided to ignore it all until today? Could you please offer links to those other boards where there are countless posts defending/condoning/endorsing QPR fan violence? I'll start you off: There was this brief thread on dot.org qprdot.org/viewtopic.php?t=49936
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 7, 2011 14:12:44 GMT
It is sadly no surprise again to see that your continued hatred of Pete and his messageboard has clouded your opinion All QPR messageboards have had related threads on what happened and all have have shall we say divided opinions and yet you would have all the readers on here believe it is purely WATRBS who are discussing it For some reason you have decided to ignore it all until today? Could you please offer links to those other boards where there are countless posts defending/condoning/endorsing QPR fan violence? I'll start you off: There was this brief thread on dot.org qprdot.org/viewtopic.php?t=49936Here is another one for you www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/fb_mb.php?m=v&t=14975#55
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 14:16:31 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 14:18:02 GMT
Been down this road before....When QPR Fans do bad things - Even when they've been convicted in court: Some wish to condone, exonerate, excuse or ignore....
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 7, 2011 14:24:03 GMT
So not just WATRBS site discussing the matter then however briefly?
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 7, 2011 14:28:43 GMT
Been down this road before....When QPR Fans do bad things - Even when they've been convicted in court: Some wish to condone, exonerate, excuse or ignore.... Completely agree but your readers could be misled in to thinking that every poster on Petes site was in favour of violance at football? If somebody new was to read this site for the first time then they could be mistaken for thinking that some were pleased this incident happened by reading KIRS posting and yet of course we all know that his view is not the opinion of the majority of contributers who post or view here
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2011 14:29:04 GMT
I refer you to exactly what I posted. I also refer you to the two articles that started this thread - which I believe have not been elsewhere (feel free to) Any Millwall or Bristol City or Cardiff or any other club fan that engages in such violence should be condemned and punished. If all around the country, more were, then maybe things would be different. But Weavie - although I'm banned by WATRB, I did happen to see that 10 page thread (and ongoing)...It sure looked to me like a number of QPR posters condone violence if it's done by QPR Fans. Seen that in the past re such posts: It's fine to denounce the other teams thugs. But do so also if there are any QPR fans so involved. Maybe it's not a large number. But clearly there are QPR fans so involved. Or if those who own that site want to actually endorse such activities, fine, let them do so. It comes as no surprise that it's been kept in the main part of that messageboard.
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Post by robster191 on Jan 7, 2011 23:35:40 GMT
Qpr morons attack bristol shitty qpr morons stab millwall fan qpr morons this that its not just qpr ffs we're always getting the rough end of the stick we're starting to get a bad rep and name now but its not all qpr's fault and we can not start going with the papers
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Post by londonranger on Jan 8, 2011 1:44:06 GMT
Isleworth. I see no evidence in Macs post that he hates Watrb. He is commenting on a different approach that the Administrater of this site differs from other sites Ads. He takes an approach which is his.
Klrs and other posts are acceptable as they are expressing opinions.
Strong ad hominems against other poster and or Administrater are cloeley moderated., on this site. No one though is asking you to leave and you are very welcome her, and have some excellent points of view. If you are going to Blackburn tomorrow give a shout for an old codger born and raised in Harlesden and who survived the bombings and the massive destruction from the Nazis. Now if you want to talk about hate, put it there; obviously a non sequitur and a dissimilar comparison so dont take it badly.
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Post by cpr on Jan 8, 2011 6:24:03 GMT
Don't mention the war!
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 9, 2011 3:55:51 GMT
Been down this road before....When QPR Fans do bad things - Even when they've been convicted in court: Some wish to condone, exonerate, excuse or ignore.... Completely agree but your readers could be misled in to thinking that every poster on Petes site was in favour of violance at football? If somebody new was to read this site for the first time then they could be mistaken for thinking that some were pleased this incident happened by reading KIRS posting and yet of course we all know that his view is not the opinion of the majority of contributers who post or view here I'd agree that a large majority of Pete's followers enjoy reading stories about people starting a fight behind behind a line of Police or throwing and smashing stuff up, the glorification obviously fills the empty void they have in life.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 9, 2011 9:10:37 GMT
Well I'm not at all sure can quantify it to say "the vast majority." But certainly there have been a number of posts on that subject - the latest being just the latest. And given the way that certain topics are locked or relegated to the "lesser" read boards, the fact that the thread remained on the main board and got so many posts and hits....
Anyway a reminder of the OFFICIAL Official QPR Site Position re Hooliganism
QPR Official Site Wednesday, August 05, 2009 QPR Statement - Denounciation of Hooliganism
Queens Park Rangers Football Club is known by other football fans to be a family Club.
We pride ourselves on being a family Club; yes, we are loud and proud as our true fans support our team with passion, but we do not welcome hooligans.
We have supporters whose attendance at Loftus Road goes back generations and those fans expect to be able to bring their children to our Stadium.
Foul, abusive, violent language and behaviour committed by a small number of people who attend the home areas is spoiling our real fansβ enjoyment and kids are now not always so keen on coming back.
Likewise we receive complaints from our fans about the behaviour of others who travel away from home. We need our real fans, not hooligans, to support our team away from home.
Entering the pitch during a game is equally not acceptable and leads to our Club being in jeopardy with the Football Association.
We condemn hooligan behaviour and entering the pitch, with those found to be committing such disgraceful acts facing a lengthy (or for specific offences lifetime) ban from attending our Stadium or purchasing tickets for away games.
QPR are determined to ensure that supporting our team continues to be a great experience and to remove from the Stadium those who do not share our goal of ensuring the Club remains suitable for young and old to attend.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 9, 2011 13:08:01 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 10, 2011 15:41:57 GMT
No change
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 12, 2011 11:48:35 GMT
Fulham Chronicle Police want witnesses after QPR pub riot Jan 12 2011 By Adam Courtney Police are appealing for help in catching the football thugs who wrecked a pub in Shepherd's Bush earlier this month. Riot officers made seven arrests after a mass brawl broke out between QPR and Bristol City fans at the British Queen in Uxbridge Road following the clubs' 2-2 draw on Monday, January 3. Terrified witnesses described the fight as 'the stuff of nightmares', as missiles including bricks, stones and planks of wood reigned down on the building, smashing windows and causing several hundred pounds worth of damage. It is unclear which set of fans caused the damage, with police pointing the finger at a group of travelling supporters, while witnesses and internet posters are laying the blame at QPR thugs. Posters on the 'We are the Rangers Boys' site said home fans took exception to a group of about 20 fans drinking in the pub, which is a regular haunt for home fans. One said the away fans 'were drinking quietly troubling no one' when they were attacked by QPR louts who 'smashed up their own pub'. However a police say they identified a 'risk group' of away supporters in Shepherd's Bush before the match, who later confronted them as they were boarding their coaches home in Dorando Close. As officers calmed the situation they were called to the British Queen where they came across the brawl. A Met spokesman said: "On police arrival it was apparent that a group of Bristol City supporters armed with pieces of wood had attacked the British Queen where some home supporters were drinking. Order was quickly restored with seven supporters being arrested on suspicion of violent disorder www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/local-fulham-and-hammersmith-news/2011/01/12/police-want-witnesses-after-qpr-pub-riot-82029-27973210/
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Post by isleworthranger on Jan 12, 2011 18:19:16 GMT
Fulham Chronicle Police want witnesses after QPR pub riot Jan 12 2011 By Adam Courtney Police are appealing for help in catching the football thugs who wrecked a pub in Shepherd's Bush earlier this month. Riot officers made seven arrests after a mass brawl broke out between QPR and Bristol City fans at the British Queen in Uxbridge Road following the clubs' 2-2 draw on Monday, January 3. Terrified witnesses described the fight as 'the stuff of nightmares', as missiles including bricks, stones and planks of wood reigned down on the building, smashing windows and causing several hundred pounds worth of damage. It is unclear which set of fans caused the damage, with police pointing the finger at a group of travelling supporters, while witnesses and internet posters are laying the blame at QPR thugs. Posters on the 'We are the Rangers Boys' site said home fans took exception to a group of about 20 fans drinking in the pub, which is a regular haunt for home fans. One said the away fans 'were drinking quietly troubling no one' when they were attacked by QPR louts who 'smashed up their own pub'. However a police say they identified a 'risk group' of away supporters in Shepherd's Bush before the match, who later confronted them as they were boarding their coaches home in Dorando Close. As officers calmed the situation they were called to the British Queen where they came across the brawl. A Met spokesman said: "On police arrival it was apparent that a group of Bristol City supporters armed with pieces of wood had attacked the British Queen where some home supporters were drinking. Order was quickly restored with seven supporters being arrested on suspicion of violent disorder www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/local-fulham-and-hammersmith-news/2011/01/12/police-want-witnesses-after-qpr-pub-riot-82029-27973210/ What a shocking and shoddy piece of so called journalism! The reporter obviously has no facts whatsoever and even in the article is unsure who started this fighting let alone the fact that the eyewitness`s claimed the Police took 20 minutes to arrive and the seven arrested were all Bristol City fans
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Post by rangeparker on Jan 12, 2011 18:38:16 GMT
'REIGNED down on the building' ? Do these modern-day journalists not know how to spell? Or is it a clever pun on the name of the pub?
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Post by robster191 on Jan 12, 2011 20:09:33 GMT
Technically we didnt smash our own pub cos we (Most) drink at the Springbok or smuts
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