Vine on loan to Hull

[Zamoraaaah]

VINE JOINS HULL ON LOAN
Posted on: Fri 01 Oct 2010
Rowan Vine has joined fellow Championship outfit Hull City on a one month loan deal.

The 28 year-old, who is yet to feature for the R's this season, will remain with the Tigers until November 6th.

Vine could be in line to make his Hull debut against Coventry City on Saturday.

Nigel Pearson's side currently occupy 17th place in the second tier.

[Zamoraaaah]

Good luck Rowan.

[Lonegunmen]

Didn't Pete predict this?

[klr]

Good luck to him, hope he does well.

[Macmoish]

Oct 1, 2010 9:52:45 GMT Lonegunmen said:

Didn't Pete predict this?

Yes he did

Congratulations to Pete

[Macmoish]

Hull OFficial Site

Tigers Bring In Vine
Posted on: Fri 01 Oct 2010
The Tigers have signed striker Rowan Vine on loan from Championship rivals Queens Park Rangers.

28-year-old Vine will be available for selection for tomorrow's home game against Coventry after terms were agreed on an initial one-month deal earlier today.

Standing at over six feet tall, Vine is good both in the air and on the ground and is experienced at leading the line. He started his career with Portsmouth and went on to play for Luton and Birmingham before joining QPR, initially on loan, in 2007.

His best spell came with Luton and he was part of the side that pipped the Tigers to the League One title in 2005. He scored nine goals that season and was top of the 'assist' chart in the division. Ten goals in 30 appearances followed in his first season in the Championship.

He helped Birmingham to promotion to the Premier League after joining them in January 2007 before a permanent move to QPR came a year later.

Vine will wear squad number 28 for the Tigers.

www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~2171328,00.html

[Lonegunmen]

ITK or a leak?

[eskey8]

One hell of a prediction I must say - that man's a genius.

[cpr]

ITK/Leak, same thing innit?

Yet again, my prediction was spot on!

[Zamoraaaah]

Dave Mc on Vine

I hope Vine bounces back
davidmcintyre.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/i-hope-vine-bounces-back/
By davidmcintyre
Good luck to Rowan Vine. He’s due some, and that’s coming from someone who generally doesn’t do sympathy for footballers and didn’t think he should have been signed in the first place. I hope he does well at Hull and gets his career back on track.

He was one of the better acquisitions QPR made between the 2007 takeover and this summer, although that isn’t saying much.

But that wasn’t Vine’s fault, and neither were some of the reasons things went wrong for him. The broken leg was a turning point. We all know that. But his problems didn’t end there.

For a year, the messageboards fawned over him and his comeback couldn’t come quickly enough for many. But there were two absolute certainties given the nature of his injury. The first was that he would struggle for fitness and form when he did return, and the second was that his adoring public would turn on him very quickly when that happened.

And sure enough, by the end of the season before last, opinion had turned against him and the powers-that-be were already looking to get rid. His annoyance at them for axing Dexter Blackstock didn’t help his cause.

Jim Magilton and John Gorman, who liked him a lot, put a stop to that. Magilton went along with the Pellicori deal and stomached the pressure placed on Faurlin’s shoulders by the suggestion he had cost £3.5m. But he put his foot down over Vine, and resisted attempts to ship him out.

Magilton and Gorman believed Akos Buzsaky, who’d also had a bad injury, was a lot closer to full fitness than Vine, who could take months longer to get back up to speed.

Their handling of the player reflected that. He was eased in very gradually, with good and bad signs during various substitute appearances, although there was no doubt that he looked a shadow of his former self.

He played his part in an excellent team performance at Newcastle, scored in the 4-1 win against Reading, and was gradually gaining some confidence and important match-time. Magilton himself was on a roll, as we all know. Rangers looked unstoppable, and he was particularly pleased with Vine’s progress given his insistence on keeping him.

But a few weeks later – that’s how quickly the tide turns against a QPR manager – Magilton’s own position was under scrutiny following a couple of bad results and all-too familiar behind-the-scenes problems.

For his part, Vine was struggling with a hernia. That injury was hugely significant and debilitating, but has been overlooked because of the broken leg his shortcomings are associated with. It also came at the worst possible time.

Magilton was now, ridiculously, under real pressure, and asked Vine to start in the now infamous game at Watford, which the manager badly needed a result from. It was Vine’s first start for more than two months – and it showed.

Magilton was finished after the fall-out from that match, and Vine was effectively finished at the club himself.

With Magilton gone, attempts to get rid of Vine carried on where they’d left off in the summer. He was linked with a number of clubs – always a sign that moves are being made to get a player out.

But there was genuine interest from Sheffield Wednesday. Brian Laws, then their manager, wanted him and Vine was duly told he could go. Rangers were keen to offload him, but they were trying to offload an injured player. Vine required a stomach operation and was nowhere near fit.

Wednesday are regarded inside the game as a very big club, and a big draw for most players. Clearly out of favour at Rangers, the move would have been perfect for Vine. But he was up-front with Laws, telling him that he wasn’t fit and didn’t feel he could do himself justice or help Laws at a time when his job was hanging by a thread.

Vine had his operation, and weeks later Neil Warnock took over as Rangers manager. He told Vine he rated him as a player and had tried to sign him in the past.

But Vine continued to struggle, and by the end of the season it was clear he had no future at the club – a fact underlined by his performances during pre-season.

There’s no doubt that the injuries – not just the injury – took their toll. I know of four clubs who this summer discussed taking him, but decided not to. That speaks volumes, although being a free agent would have made him a much more attractive proposition had he reached a financial settlement with QPR. For a manager who wants or needs to take a punt, someone of Vine’s proven ability is bound to be worth considering.

Time will tell how much he has left to offer. But one thing I am certain of is that some of the criticism I’ve read of his attitude, not simply his performances, has been unfair.

Vine’s attitude – what Iain Dowie used to call his “spikiness” – made him an asset on as well as off the pitch. His sharpness and mobility were affected by the hernia as well as the more obvious leg injury, and when that happens a player’s sluggishness and dip in confidence can look for all the world like a lack of effort.

He isn’t someone who simply failed to deliver after being signed for big money. There are strong, mitigating reasons why it went wrong for him, and for that reason he’s arguably entitled to have his contract properly paid up – unlike other unwanted reserves who’ve clung to their fat contracts in recent years.

He is not in the same mould as those players, despite not doing himself any favours with some ill-advised recent comments on Twitter. They did nothing to mend his relations with some at QPR, or change the growing perception of him as a typical money-grabbing footballer. And they could yet land him in hot water, although his loan move to Hull may pave the way for both parties to draw a line.

Even as someone who despairs of Rangers’ fecklessness and often jokes that you can always be sure they’ll “make the pay-offs”, I don’t begrudge Vine a good financial settlement if that’s what he wants before moving on. QPR have paid off numerous less-deserving players who don’t have the same excuse for not performing.

Vine did his best after signing his contract in good faith. He entertained, and then one moment on the training ground changed everything. Let him have a fresh start. He needs and deserves one.

[Macmoish]

Sorry I just saw this Dave McIntyre piece

[harlowranger]

Well hes got a fresh start if he scored a couple of goals for hull , got an extension until christmas , who knows may get a permant deal with them !
Think most people would like him to get back to where he was when joined and that has to be away from QPR in fairness to both parties !
Wonder if they could not reach a financial settlement that both parties thought was fair?
Well im pleased for him hes found another club to take his career forward , but if totally honest think its best for the club at this time, his wages could go towards keeping Kyle longer or getting an other forward in !

[Lonegunmen]

If Vine found fitness and goal scoring form again, I'd keep him.

[Macmoish]

I'd forgotten Vine got fined two weeks wages for criticizing the sale of Blackstock. Ok that puts him in up my eyes.

East Riding Mail
HULL CITY: Vine will bring new life to Tigers' attack, says Pearson
Hull City's new man Rowan Vine is set to make his debut against Coventry City today.

HULL City are confident loan signing Rowan Vine is the man to breathe new life into their goal-shy attack.

As first reported on the Mail's website yesterday, the 28-year-old striker has joined the Tigers on a one-month deal from Queens Park Rangers.

And with Nigel Pearson's frontmen struggling to find their goalscoring touch, Vine is expected to be thrown straight into the mix against Coventry City today.

Standing 6ft 1in tall, the former Luton and Birmingham man has previously been labelled 'the king of assists'.

And head of football operations Adam Pearson says he could prove just the man to get City's other strikers firing.

"Rowan is a striker that has been admired by this club for some time and everybody knows what he is about and what he can do," Pearson told the Mail

"He has a proven track record at this level and he sees this as a great opportunity to get his career back up and running.

"He is a player who has great determination and will graft for you, and that is exactly what we need."

Having completed his move to the KC Stadium yesterday morning, manager Nigel Pearson was able to assess his fitness yesterday ahead of deciding whether to start him today.

It could see him opt to partner him with Jay Simpson up front, a man Vine played alongside last season at Loftus Road.

"We feel Rowan will take some of the pressure off the other lads up front," said Pearson.

"Jay has had a difficult start to his time here.

"He has been working on his match fitness, his partner has just had a baby and he has been living out of a hotel.

"We all have a lot of faith in Jay and we know he will deliver in time, but we also feel we need to take some pressure off him.

"Rowan is going to bring a lot of hard work and lots of experience to the front line."

The Mail understands City have been able to secure Vine's services having paid a small loan fee to the Championship leaders.

He signed a £1m four-and-a-half-year deal at Loftus Road in 2008 but suffered a broken leg three months later.

He did not make another first-team appearance until April 2009, and has since been used mainly as a substitute.

On a reported wage of £16,000 a week, Neil Warnock is keen to see him play regular football in the hope it may entice a buyer come the January window.

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-CITY-Vine-bring-new-life-Tigers-attack-says-Pearson/article-2712646-detail/article.html

[harlowranger]

Sorry but i dont think think he has a QPR future any more !
Rowlands does , Cook does but Vine no not in my opinion !
He started 8-9 games last year came on as sub for over 20 games !he was involved in 30 games for QPR last season he scored 1 GOAL ! YES 1 GOAL !I know its not all about scoring goals , but come on how many minutes was he on the pitch for that single goal !
How many shots at goal in that time that were missed !
I personally think we could do better in letting him go find a new club , hes happy
may get his touch back !
But at QPR no sorry , if it was a choice we could save his wages and put that towards someone
like Jason Roberts to me its a no brainer !
He may well tie up well with Simpson , on the other hand they may well only get 10 goals between them .
It may be harsh and it may upset people but i say keep ROWLANDS ,keep COOK let
Vine go , if we want promotion this year would be to big a risk to keep him if he performed like last year!
Lets move on please , i dont think hes in Neils plans anyway !
IN NW WE TRUST ,EVEN THE SUPERSTITIONS!

[klr]

Oct 2, 2010 10:28:51 GMT @harlowranger said:

Sorry but i dont think think he has a QPR future any more !
Rowlands does , Cook does but Vine no not in my opinion !
He started 8-9 games last year came on as sub for over 20 games !he was involved in 30 games for QPR last season he scored 1 GOAL ! YES 1 GOAL !I know its not all about scoring goals , but come on how many minutes was he on the pitch for that single goal !
How many shots at goal in that time that were missed !
I personally think we could do better in letting him go find a new club , hes happy
may get his touch back !
But at QPR no sorry , if it was a choice we could save his wages and put that towards someone
like Jason Roberts to me its a no brainer !
He may well tie up well with Simpson , on the other hand they may well only get 10 goals between them .
It may be harsh and it may upset people but i say keep ROWLANDS ,keep COOK let
Vine go , if we want promotion this year would be to big a risk to keep him if he performed like last year!
Lets move on please , i dont think hes in Neils plans anyway !
IN NW WE TRUST ,EVEN THE SUPERSTITIONS!

You think that Cook has got a future ?

[harlowranger]

Personally think Rowland could play a bit part and maybe even Cook a bit part , put it this way
would rather keep both these 2 guys against rowan vine in his current run of form and his attitude .
Rowlands and Cook both love qpr and generally play with pride , sorry to offend but dont think Vine did last year !I know he had a terrible injury that takes a long time to recover but nearly every supporter of QPR would say he is never the same player !
In this order would keep Rowlands 1 , Cook 2 , Vine 3 , thats just my opinion maybe general concensus is everybody wants to keep vine but i dont!
PS on that note -wait for him to score today , but even if he did score 5 goals at loan at Hull in a month , does Warnock want him dont think so!

[Macmoish]

Mirror

Hull 0-0 Coventry: Daily Mirror match report

Rowan Vine wants to prove Neil Warnock was wrong to give him the cold shoulder at QPR.

The striker was frozen out by the league leaders and has joined Hull on a month’s loan.

Vine, 28, said: “The boss made it clear he doesn’t see me having a future at the club.

“I’m buzzing to be here and feel I have a big point to prove.”

Jimmy Bullard went closest for the hosts, rattling the underside of the bar from 25 yards.

Coventry improved after the break and Aron ­Gunnarsson’s volley almost broke the deadlock, but Hull keeper Matt Duke made a full-stretch save.

Sky Blues defender Richard Keogh said: “We’ve had a decent start, but we need to be in and around the top near Christmas. Then we can push on.”

www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Hull-0-0-Coventry-Daily-Mirror-match-report-Rowan-Vine-wants-to-prove-Neil-Warnock-wrong-for-loaning-him-to-Hull-article593963.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[harlowranger]

Well stop talking about it and do it ! Like scoring a goal !
The boss doesnt see he has future at the club , i trust NW judgement!
Thanks , Goodluck hope it works out , especially if Hull buy him , but may have a trouble scoring goals alongside Jay as hes having a lean spell at the mo !

[manta]

I agree I dont think Vine's future is here anymore. Shame as he's a good player but we've moved on and with our current strikers performing he'll be on the subs bench. Although I am happy for him to stay I think he can get first team football elsewhere.

[Macmoish]

Most managers are prepared to be shown that they're wrong...And the competition for the bench at QPR as striker (especially with Pellicori and Balanta out on loan) was such that if Vine had shown it, I presume Warnock would have been man enough to find him a place.

[harlowranger]

Exactly Manta ! Yes he is or was a very good player but we must move on !
Would love to know why he never went out on loan earlier, agreed a pay off or did he want to fight for his place or did he want to get big bucks for doing nowt on the bench who knows !

[Macmoish]

East Riding Mail

HULL CITY: I'll help goals to flood back, insists on-loan Vine

ON-LOAN hitman Rowan Vine has every confidence his reunited partnership with Jay Simpson will find a cure for Hull City's misfiring attack.

Having joined the Tigers on a one-month loan from QPR, Vine impressed with his hold-up play as he made his debut in the 0-0 draw with Coventry on Saturday.

Familiar failings in the final third again undermined City's hopes of victory, ensuring it was the sixth time in 10 league games this season that Nigel Pearson's men have fired a blank.

But after playing alongside £800,000 signing Simpson at QPR last season, Vine believes City's new-look attack will soon deliver the goods.

"Jay will get goals," said Vine. "He got them last year. We played together a few times at QPR so I know how he plays the game.

"Confidence can be a problem when you're not scoring goals.

"Strikers put the most amount of pressure on themselves, whether it is Jay or whoever is up front.

"He just needs the rub of the green. Against Coventry, he tried hard and if he keeps doing that then the goals will come.

"That was what happened last year and I am a big believer that it will again."

With just seven goals to their name from 10 league games, only Sheffield United have scored fewer goals than City in the Championship this season.

It is a barren run of form which has stifled their attempts to climb the league, but Vine is hopeful the tide will turn.

He added: "If we play like we did against Coventry, but with more of a cutting edge, we will get the chances. Then, once one or two go in, the goals will really start to flow.

"There are some great players here, particularly in the midfield. So, I don't think it is due to a lack of service.

"We played most of the game in the Coventry half, but maybe the final ball or the decision making wasn't as it should have been. Put it this way, I am not worried."

Vine made his City debut little more than 24 hours after completing a hastily-arranged loan move to the KC Stadium on Friday.

Out of the picture at Loftus Road after Hoops boss Neil Warnock made it clear he would not be in his plans, the 28-year-old hopes to prove his worth as a front-line striker in the Championship.

And while he is uncertain what his future will hold beyond an initial month away from the capital, Vine is hungry for first-team football.

"I am buzzing to be here," he said. "I have a point to prove, though not to individuals or anything like that. More to myself.

"It came as a bit of a surprise. I had been at training on the Thursday and the manager (Neil Warnock) called me in to say Hull were interested and did I want to go.

"I've wanted something I could get my teeth into.

"The manager here has not mentioned beyond the month. He just said that Hull needed something different and he thought I could be it."

Vine, who earns around £16,000-a-week, still has another season left on his Rangers deal after this one but is free to leave if he can find a new club.

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-CITY-ll-help-goals-flood-insists-Vine/article-2715655-detail/article.html

[eusebio13]

Oct 1, 2010 10:31:06 GMT eskey8 said:

One hell of a prediction I must say - that man's a genius.

Nostradumbass

[haqpr1963]

Oct 4, 2010 7:36:47 GMT eusebio13 said:

Oct 1, 2010 10:31:06 GMT eskey8 said:

One hell of a prediction I must say - that man's a genius.

Nostradumbass

Well that ruined my coffee for the morning and very possibly my keyboard as well.......

Hilarious............. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D