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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2020 19:42:18 GMT
Slowly beginning to adjust my expectations to watching us trying to get out of League One next season.
Not joking either.
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Post by harr on Oct 27, 2020 19:43:13 GMT
Can’t defend , more to the point can’t stop conceding penalities ... This could get embarrassing like last season.
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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2020 19:48:38 GMT
Reading running away with this league too. We really have offended the football gods, haven’t we.
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Post by hitmanrangers on Oct 27, 2020 19:50:33 GMT
Was alway going to be a tough season given the loss of goals from last year. Only Uncle Albert has genuine experience in the Championship from our attacking players and he is at the end of his career. Just need to try and pick up points here and there and then hope some of the new players start to adapt to this level and we improve over time. Frustrating thing now with BOS likely to leave for small fee, is that we have no player to sell for decent money in the summer. BOS, Manning and Lumley could have fetched close to £10m if under longer contracts but that plan of developing own players and selling on for profit is all about timing now. Let’s hope the board learn lessons from this experience, albeit not all their fault as I expect it is agents doing what they do best.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 20:03:40 GMT
Lol here we go again, the joke of the league, MW is hopeless and clueless. What an absolute shower of shite, heads should roll after this game.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 20:27:02 GMT
Diabolical, if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 27, 2020 20:42:43 GMT
Diabolical, if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him. Hardly the most surprising post. You've pretty much moaned about everything he has done from the day he started, and Ainsworth I believe never wanted to come here when inline for the job.
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Post by harr on Oct 27, 2020 20:54:24 GMT
Thank god that’s over. Another game like that and we will be in the bottom three, one point off Barnsley, Coventry and Birmingham three of the weakest teams, dire stuff. Can’t defend , Give weekly penalties, own goals and can’t score a goal for toffee, fed up 😔
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:00:53 GMT
Diabolical, if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him. Hardly the most surprising post. You've pretty much moaned about everything he has done from the day he started, and Ainsworth I believe never wanted to come here when inline for the job. That tells you everything then dont it? He is a liability and needs to walk. If you look outside this site occasionally you will see it is a very popular statement.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:09:17 GMT
Lol here we go again, the joke of the league, MW is hopeless and clueless. What an absolute shower of shite, heads should roll after this game. Your head first if you can pull it out from between your legs in time. Ban me mods - this ***** has gone far enough. Cant spell ?? oh dear say what you mean man, dont be a pussy
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 27, 2020 21:12:26 GMT
A bad night for our club. I thought we looked good up until the penalty. Dickie was naïve. but he has got away with a few and I hope he learns from this. To play for that long with 10 men was always going to be tough but we did not handle it at all well. Dykes and Albert worked their socks off, but Carroll was for ever looking for a killer ball behind a defence that out numbered us. To that end, I thought we needed fresh legs not spraying the ball to the opposition. All 3 subs did well and are pushing to start on Saturday - Masterson will have to start anyway! Thought a few of our players did not adapt well, Bonne needs serious coaching and should have gone off earlier. You cannot have a player strolling around when we are down to 10. Barbet was completely knackered and did not chase back towards the end and if not for Dieng it could have been six or seven. There is nothing any manager can do about the penalty incident. It did feel like a double punishment though. I think Warburton had a bad game and I think several players let him down as well. On to Cardiff game, feeling pretty low tonight though.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 27, 2020 21:20:18 GMT
Yeah, very very poor. One of those ones that's worse cos you know it's dead well before half time but you just have to suffer the rest of it. Prolongs it.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 27, 2020 21:22:30 GMT
Hardly the most surprising post. You've pretty much moaned about everything he has done from the day he started, and Ainsworth I believe never wanted to come here when inline for the job. That tells you everything then dont it? He is a liability and needs to walk. If you look outside this site occasionally you will see it is a very popular statement. Then if you believe that this site is pro Warburton then you are obviously only here for a row. and its surely you who should be airing your views elsewhere if all you want is people to agree with you. And you have not actually denied the point that you have moaned about Warburton from day 1. As far as I am concerned you can have whatever views you want. Just be a little more constructive. Everyone seen the "taxi for toastie" comments and the like after every draw / defeat that's easy, Just like its easy to say nothing when QPR win. I just don't get how someone would rather constantly celebrate a defeat just so they can say I told you so.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 27, 2020 21:24:31 GMT
A bad night for our club. I thought we looked good up until the penalty. Dickie was naïve. but he has got away with a few and I hope he learns from this. To play for that long with 10 men was always going to be tough but we did not handle it at all well. Dykes and Albert worked their socks off, but Carroll was for ever looking for a killer ball behind a defence that out numbered us. To that end, I thought we needed fresh legs not spraying the ball to the opposition. All 3 subs did well and are pushing to start on Saturday - Masterson will have to start anyway! Thought a few of our players did not adapt well, Bonne needs serious coaching and should have gone off earlier. You cannot have a player strolling around when we are down to 10. Barbet was completely knackered and did not chase back towards the end and if not for Dieng it could have been six or seven. There is nothing any manager can do about the penalty incident. It did feel like a double punishment though. I think Warburton had a bad game and I think several players let him down as well. On to Cardiff game, feeling pretty low tonight though. Yeah, agree with that. Particularly on Carroll - he was playing his role but you can't afford that when you're down to 10.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:25:34 GMT
We were absolute crap the entire game, Barbet once again helps the opposition, MW will no doubt praise him and say he's trying lol. He stood by Wallace as well, he is completely useless. Yes, i call for his head to roll and I dont care a toss who thinks differently. This is about opinions right, and mine is lose him asap.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:28:36 GMT
That tells you everything then dont it? He is a liability and needs to walk. If you look outside this site occasionally you will see it is a very popular statement. Then if you believe that this site is pro Warburton then you are obviously only here for a row. and its surely you who should be airing your views elsewhere if all you want is people to agree with you. And you have not actually denied the point that you have moaned about Warburton from day 1. As far as I am concerned you can have whatever views you want. Just be a little more constructive. Everyone seen the "taxi for toastie" comments and the like after every draw / defeat that's easy, Just like its easy to say nothing when QPR win. I just don't get how someone would rather constantly celebrate a defeat just so they can say I told you so. How do i get constructive over the belief i have of MW? When we win i am happy obviously, but even some wins have been pure luck. I think he is incompetent as a manager its as simple as that.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:29:45 GMT
Then if you believe that this site is pro Warburton then you are obviously only here for a row. and its surely you who should be airing your views elsewhere if all you want is people to agree with you. And you have not actually denied the point that you have moaned about Warburton from day 1. As far as I am concerned you can have whatever views you want. Just be a little more constructive. Everyone seen the "taxi for toastie" comments and the like after every draw / defeat that's easy, Just like its easy to say nothing when QPR win. I just don't get how someone would rather constantly celebrate a defeat just so they can say I told you so. How do i get constructive over the belief i have of MW? When we win i am happy obviously, but even some wins have been pure luck. I think he is incompetent as a manager its as simple as that. I dont want an echo chamber either!! what a silly remark. If you do not agree with my views just ignore my posts.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 27, 2020 21:41:06 GMT
Your original Post was " if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him."
That is not constructive or factually correct factually there are millions who could do worse ! and Ainsworth ruled himself out of the Job after being interviewed. And not caring who replaced him is not a view if he is replaced by a previous flop Ramsey Les's mate Sherwood Joey Barton or even Vinny Jones you would or at least should care.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 27, 2020 21:56:03 GMT
Your original Post was " if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him." That is not constructive or factually correct factually there are millions who could do worse ! and Ainsworth ruled himself out of the Job after being interviewed. And not caring who replaced him is not a view if he is replaced by a previous flop Ramsey Les's mate Sherwood Joey Barton or even Vinny Jones you would or at least should care. Yes there are no doubt millions who could do worse..........it was a metaphor.........and trust me when i say i dont care if MW is sacked. Lets agree to disagree ?
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Post by spanishal on Oct 27, 2020 21:57:03 GMT
Reading running away with this league too. We really have offended the football gods, haven’t we. I understand that their new manager is not Actually Jesus Christ in disguise.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 27, 2020 22:26:10 GMT
Your original Post was " if MW does not get sacked after this then we are going down. And before you ask i dont care who replaces him, no one could do worse. Should have given the job to Ainsworth over him." That is not constructive or factually correct factually there are millions who could do worse ! and Ainsworth ruled himself out of the Job after being interviewed. And not caring who replaced him is not a view if he is replaced by a previous flop Ramsey Les's mate Sherwood Joey Barton or even Vinny Jones you would or at least should care. Yes there are no doubt millions who could do worse..........it was a metaphor.........and trust me when i say i dont care if MW is sacked. Lets agree to disagree ? I don't come on here to have an argument and I have never actually commented on your Anti MW views as much as I may or may not agree with them, you are entitled to them. I have seen in my time as a long standing QPR fan some of the finest football and greatest ever footballers to grace the planet. Now that has not happened for many a year. I believe you to be a long standing QPR fan and could probably say the same. Personally I have never really been able to slag off my team, I don't feel it really helps matters. Whoever is in charge I want them to succeed how ever much I feel they should not be in charge. This defeat hurts me more that it hurts MW I am QPR fan and to MW its probably just a job a job he wants to succeed in to move on to a better job. I will have to be here in the morning because you can't change your team and there has been many a year that would been the easy way out. Ive always had the argument that ive seen us piss all over your Man utds Arsenals and Chelseas and that will always be the case. But yes now I have said all this I am happy to agree to disagree...... Even If you are wrong
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Post by rangersman on Oct 28, 2020 7:38:31 GMT
Hardly the most surprising post. You've pretty much moaned about everything he has done from the day he started, and Ainsworth I believe never wanted to come here when inline for the job. Agree with most of that - just add that he has moaned about everything every manager has done for the club and will continue to do so whoever is in charge, and has called for everyone of them to be sacked or get in his infamous taxi - but then claims he does not care if they are sacked or not. If anyone dares ask for a justification it is met with a personal insult or "I have my view don't read it if you disagree" . Typical mindless comment - how can you disagree with a comment if you do not read it. He claims to ignore more other posts unless he sees an opportunity to add fuel to the fire but also claims not to read other peoples posts most of the time. The word liar springs to mind but that's too polite, **** is more appropriate - and I do know how to spell it by this road does have some forms of decorum plus an auto editor on certain words. Any way I'm following his advice - block on. Never moaned about every manager! that makes you a liar. Also never insulted you, another lie. You block away mate, made my day that has. I got no time for sad sacks, but hey have a nice day now. *****
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Post by bowranger on Oct 28, 2020 8:46:31 GMT
Why's this allowed to happen on here every time we have a crap result? It's embarrassing.
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Post by rangersman on Oct 28, 2020 9:04:42 GMT
Why's this allowed to happen on here every time we have a crap result? It's embarrassing. You mean someone having an opinion on a terrible game? i thought this was a forum. God forbid anyone says anything bad, or has a difference of opinion to the regulars. What is embarrassing is making a statement about it.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 28, 2020 9:09:13 GMT
Nah, no-one stops anyone from having an opinion and it's boring having that trotted out like it's the issue. Everyone thought it was crap last night and you have never been stopped from posting your opinion.
I mean getting to a point where posters are tarring eachother off.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 28, 2020 9:15:36 GMT
Where Rangersman is correct is that this forum is far more tolerant and long termist than the other QPR MBs. I think that has something to do with the longevity of some of the supporters on here and also that there are several business people who post on here. We do not all agree, we debate and share opinions. Rangersman could go on to any of the other forums (and he has said in the past that he does not post on them) and be just a common voice amongst many. But where is the fun in that? Far better to come on here and vent his frustration on others who he seems to think does not share his angst. Well, I for one do get pretty annoyed by players letting the club down, or not having the good sense to adjust, but perhaps our experience tells us that it is all a learning curve / work in progress. That development could well see us relegated, Warburton may well lose the dressing room and have to go at some point if results do not improve. The problem is that in today's world of the internet and SSN, the clamor to sack a manager becomes a sport and the answer to every problem when in reality, it is just the start of the next problem! So let Rangersman vent, he gets off on winding people up on this board. He is entitled to his view. Just ignore him is my advice.
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Post by surreychad on Oct 28, 2020 9:23:13 GMT
Where Rangersman is correct is that this forum is far more tolerant and long termist than the other QPR MBs. I think that has something to do with the longevity of some of the supporters on here and also that there are several business people who post on here. We do not all agree, we debate and share opinions. Rangersman could go on to any of the other forums (and he has said in the past that he does not post on them) and be just a common voice amongst many. But where is the fun in that? Far better to come on here and vent his frustration on others who he seems to think does not share his angst. Well, I for one do get pretty annoyed by players letting the club down, or not having the good sense to adjust, but perhaps our experience tells us that it is all a learning curve / work in progress. That development could well see us relegated, Warburton may well lose the dressing room and have to go at some point if results do not improve. The problem is that in today's world of the internet and SSN, the clamor to sack a manager becomes a sport and the answer to every problem when in reality, it is just the start of the next problem! So let Rangersman vent, he gets off on winding people up on this board. He is entitled to his view. Just ignore him is my advice. Well said, varying views doesn't make bad people, it makes a conversation. As long as we can refrain from name calling then it makes for a good board. One thing we all have in common is the love for our club.
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Post by bowranger on Oct 28, 2020 9:26:28 GMT
Yeah, agree with the bulk of that.
I just don't like people turning it into some kind of freedom of speech issue when it ain't. I'm as annoyed as anyone and I'll happily debate the why's and how's of us having a crap performance til the cows come home as you know. Just find the style of dropping angry venting one liners that ends up with people having a personal go at eachother not what I want out of a MB cos I can go and engage with that on Twitter if I wanted to but I choose not to.
It becomes this false simplifying where people turn it into a situation where you're either a happy clapper or righteously angry and that there's nothing in between. The spread of opinions on here isn't like that.
But to be fair, more than happy to admit that that may just be my problem.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 28, 2020 9:40:48 GMT
Yeah, agree with the bulk of that. I just don't like people turning it into some kind of freedom of speech issue when it ain't. I'm as annoyed as anyone and I'll happily debate the why's and how's of us having a crap performance til the cows come home as you know. Just find the style of dropping angry venting one liners that ends up with people having a personal go at eachother not what I want out of a MB cos I can go and engage with that on Twitter if I wanted to but I choose not to. But to be fair, more than happy to admit that that may just be my problem. The thing that frustrates me is that for all clubs, the heat generated by football MBs has a disproportionate baring on events. Owners react to the loudest voices, those who delight in sacking the manager. Again, part of this is about the differing age groups. When I started supporting football, sacking the manager was a rare event and many lasted up to 10 years with a club. But at the same time, in today's world people have grown up with managers carrying the can after just a few months and then walking into another job - I do not understand either of those outcomes. Employment law means that this rarely happens outside of sport, staff complain about managers no end, but good and bad managers carry on regardless. But back in the day when we used to go to football games, there always seemed to be a big difference between those who attend and those who type on message boards. But still the owners react to the message boards and SSN. I migrated to this board a few years ago because I did not like the sort of things that you refer to above happening on other boards, so yeah, I hope it can be canned on here. I believe the trick is to not engage otherwise it festers. The irony of course being that me writing this is engaging and doing just that! LOL
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Post by rangersman on Oct 28, 2020 9:50:37 GMT
Where Rangersman is correct is that this forum is far more tolerant and long termist than the other QPR MBs. I think that has something to do with the longevity of some of the supporters on here and also that there are several business people who post on here. We do not all agree, we debate and share opinions. Rangersman could go on to any of the other forums (and he has said in the past that he does not post on them) and be just a common voice amongst many. But where is the fun in that? Far better to come on here and vent his frustration on others who he seems to think does not share his angst. Well, I for one do get pretty annoyed by players letting the club down, or not having the good sense to adjust, but perhaps our experience tells us that it is all a learning curve / work in progress. That development could well see us relegated, Warburton may well lose the dressing room and have to go at some point if results do not improve. The problem is that in today's world of the internet and SSN, the clamor to sack a manager becomes a sport and the answer to every problem when in reality, it is just the start of the next problem! So let Rangersman vent, he gets off on winding people up on this board. He is entitled to his view. Just ignore him is my advice. Born and bred in the Bush mate, supported QPR ever since. Whenever i have said something negative on here, instead of ignoring it as you suggest, they clamour to put my thoughts down. I suffer no angst, its QPR we are talking about here, in 55 years you get used to it. What you all seem to forget that everyone is entitled to an opinion, when i see something i disagree with to the point of knowing i will not agree, i leave it alone. Some on here think they have a god given right to ridicule and poo poo my opinions lol. I find it highly amusing i must admit, its like an old peoples home, and im 61, so not too far off. I do hope if i am ever put in one of those places they have better residents than some of you lot on here. I will post until i cant, dont like it move on, no problem trust me.
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