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Post by sharky on Dec 29, 2019 14:55:09 GMT
5 mins to the start. Nothing left to be said other than.....
.... COME ON URRRRRRRsssssss!!!!!!
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Post by Marc on Dec 29, 2019 15:27:38 GMT
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Post by Marc on Dec 29, 2019 15:42:47 GMT
Didn't last long, keeper error. 1-1
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Post by surreychad on Dec 29, 2019 15:44:17 GMT
we are playing well against a very defensive team.
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Post by surreychad on Dec 29, 2019 15:47:34 GMT
Feck, so close.. Hull are there for the taking
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Post by londonranger on Dec 29, 2019 17:01:59 GMT
Well mates we didn't take em, they took us at 89 mins 1-2 Im so aggravated.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 29, 2019 17:14:46 GMT
Another Lumley Howler lost us a result and we were called Listless by W. London Sport
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Post by rangersman on Dec 29, 2019 17:21:33 GMT
Taxi for Breadman
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 29, 2019 18:41:50 GMT
That was bewildering. We started on the front foot and deservedly took the lead, although the pretty poor Hull keeper (Long) should never have been beaten with the Chair shot on his near post. Then it looked as though we were finally going to punish a very poor opponent. Hull just put 11 men behind the ball and relied on a break away. Then the Lumley mistake - it was a poor one (again) but the Hull keeper later made a similar mistake and he went unpunished. No excuse, we cannot keep gifting goals like that. But something happened to the team with that goal. It seem to drain them. But even at 1-1, QPR dominated, recording over 70% possession for most of the game - and it felt like it. Hopeless I hear you say if you cannot do anything with it......and you would be correct. Wasted chance after chance again, poor officials again, we took off our most influential player (Chair) for Hugill and we ran out of ideas. Hull switched bringing on their lanky centre forward (Eaves) and switched Bowen to the wing. Suddenly, they sensed an opportunity. In the usual spot, directly in front of us, a dubious free kick, Bowen swung the ball over, straight the way through our defence for a slight touch and Lumley flat footed beaten at his near post. A very poor goal to concede / gift. Make no mistake, this one really hurt. I cannot remember the last time that we dominated a team for best part of the game, a team who were content to sit back for 90 minutes, a team who only had 3 shots on target, a team that did not win a single corner.. ... and yet we lost. I think in our good run, goals were going in from all over and we won even playing little more than ok at times. We are now playing poorer opposition and we can not buy a break. 3 home games in 8 days - results like this one make it very much a labour of love - a pretty quiet journey home tonight..........
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Post by harr on Dec 29, 2019 19:27:24 GMT
Fairly predictable. Poorer opposition and yet one point from twelve against Barnsley,Charlton, Reading and Hull, so very disappointing. Let’s hope those results don’t bite us on the bottom in a few weeks time after we play Cardiff,Leeds,Brentford and Blackburn. We continue to let two games in at a time and only one clean sheet at Home all season.. The Manager is under a little pressure now with just two wins in thirteen and some tough fixtures on the horizon after the team has blown chances against the lower teams. I now find myself looking at Luton,Stoke,Wigan and Barnsley results.
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Post by bowranger on Dec 29, 2019 19:35:51 GMT
Just home. A very frustrating afternoon. Saw it similarly to Ricky so not much to add.
We really looked like putting a sword through Hull after the first goal, it was one way traffic. And then the Lumley error slowly sucked the belief out of us.
Hull held 11 men behind the ball for much of the second half, before making that striker sub and smelt blood on the counter (as a side note, may be the first battle I've seen Leistner come off worst from this season). Soft foul, if it was really one at all, basic ball in, tapped in unchallenged at the back post.
Two incredibly soft goals conceded in a game we could and should have put to bed before half time.
Said it before but it's because there's stuff we do so well that makes these soft goals so, so frustrating. When we were poor last season, you could tell from about 15 mins we were going to get done over. Norwich away a prime example - you could pretty much resign yourself to it quickly. But games like today, we bossed it, for the vast majority of the game. We create chances, we look good doing it, did so much right and then...just handed Hull the three points in the softest way possible. Gives you hope then rips it away. Proper ruins your evening.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 29, 2019 19:46:09 GMT
How many points has keeper howlers cost us this season. I mean blunders
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Post by harr on Dec 29, 2019 19:54:10 GMT
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Post by harr on Dec 29, 2019 19:59:57 GMT
How many points has keeper howlers cost us this season. I mean blunders Too many Andy. Lack of concentration alone at the end of games has cost us points against Charlton and Hull. We switch off far to easily, school boy errors cost us. However, most of it recently is we dominate games and fail to kill teams off, gift them a goal, then they think we can win this and usually do.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Dec 29, 2019 20:03:11 GMT
Fumbley sucked the life out of the stadium and his team with yet another howler. Happy new year rangers family.
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Post by bowranger on Dec 29, 2019 20:13:25 GMT
How many points has keeper howlers cost us this season. I mean blunders Too many Andy. Lack of concentration alone at the end of games has cost us points against Charlton and Hull. We switch off far to easily, school boy errors cost us. However, most of it recently is we dominate games and fail to kill teams off, gift them a goal, then they think we can win this and usually do. I'm not sure how many cos some of them are debatable, but I'm sure there's a significant amount of goals we could point to that are definitively down to basic mistakes against the run of play. Today, Fulham away and Boro at home spring to mind. That last line is the key bit I think and it was similar in the Charlton game in particular. Goals change momentum and kill hope. This league is tight enough that if you dominate and only come away with a one goal advantage, you always give teams a glimmer of hope to cling onto and they'll fight for a point. And that's doubley hard if we gift the goals when we are on top. Today, the timing of the equaliser and the manner of it was so crucial. It was their first meaningful attack of the game. Instead of them having to come at us in the second half facing a deficit, it meant that they had an away point to hang onto. They could pack men behind the ball and gamble on the counter once they made that striker sub. As kilburn says, it just sucked the life out of everything. It will take a lot of mental toughness out of our lot, if we've got it. You feel good doing the right thing and being rewarded for it. We started well, we worked hard, we created chances and got our reward - a goal and a lead. If you then just give that up, it feels horrid. Even for Chair, he really, really needed a goal and earned one. For it to then count for nothing must be a sickener.
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Post by spanishal on Dec 29, 2019 22:50:26 GMT
Warbs after match comments are sounding like a well worn record, he seems powerless to change it. Just hope the January window is an opportunity to put right these dreadful errors at both ends of the pitch
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Post by kenthoop on Dec 30, 2019 7:39:33 GMT
after listening tobtge breadmans after match comments saying how well Chair was playing then I have to ask myself why the hell was he taken off ? my motm when he was taken off and replaced with Hugill imo the whole game changed as he along with Wells and Bos had terrorised their back line all afternoon why the hell he was taken off is an answer for the breadman , to be quite frank his after match comments are becoming like a broken down old record and are becoming quite tedious rant over 😀
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Post by bowranger on Dec 30, 2019 9:11:13 GMT
Have to say that Warburton's post-match comments are one of the few things about all this that don't annoy me. I think he gives straight answers for the most part (within the limits of what you can and can't get away with PR-wise) and talks sense. I'm not sure what else he's supposed to say, really.
After a game and result like that, whatever he says people are going to be annoyed.
With all the talk of broken records, always worth remembering that we didn't like the last two EPs, but at least we changed the DJ picking the tunes and we should trust them to finish the set.
(Edit: didnt realise the phrase "straight bat" meant the opposite of my point haha).
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2019 11:00:13 GMT
When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess. But I am not sure what the manager did or did not do yesterday that puts the blame at his door. His senior players have lost concentration in the final minutes of 2 key home games. Who was supposed to be marking the scorer who had a complete free run at the back post? It was an individual and collective loss of concentration (again). I disagreed with his substitution removing Chair for Hugill, but had playing 2 up top produced the elusive goal, he would have been a master tactician. But we have rebuilt the squad to Warburton's direction. None of the new arrivals have proved to be a stroke of magic, but with the exception of Kelly they were all free signings. But our youth players (Eze and Manning etc.) are now talked about for serious money. That alone is progress given our plight We are where we expected to be at the turn of the year and already there is pressure on the manager and of course it goes without saying it will all be Ferdinand's fault as per usual. But what else could he have said yesterday after losing a game that we dominated to a crazy shocking late goal? He even said that he cannot keep repeating the same message. I am as down as every one else about the last 2 home games lapses. Hull had threatened nothing all game, they get a free kick in the 89th and I for one said 'Oh no, surely not!' as they thew everyone forward for the set piece. We are not good at our own corners, throw-ons and free kicks currently - there is room for improvement / training ground work. Our record at conceding from set pieces especially from our left side is also very poor. So I am not saying that it is time to happy clap our team, far from it, but blaming the manager for yesterday is not helpful or correct IMHO
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Post by rangersman on Dec 30, 2019 11:05:40 GMT
I said it a while back, Warburton is clueless IMO. Taking off Chair and Amos was a really stupid decision, and he will stick with Fumbley. He has to be replaced if we are to salvage this season. It is my personal opinion of course, and i am quite happy to state it.
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2019 11:15:25 GMT
I said it a while back, Warburton is clueless IMO. Taking off Chair and Amos was a really stupid decision, and he will stick with Fumbley. He has to be replaced if we are to salvage this season. It is my personal opinion of course, and i am quite happy to state it. I totally respect your right to have a different opinion to my own and your absolute right to state it. You are not alone. The post was not targeted you - just stating my view. Other sites are also full of similar views and Clive's LFW preview touched on the pressure on the manager as well. If we all agreed, there would be nothing to write about or discuss. HNY
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Post by harr on Dec 30, 2019 11:29:58 GMT
When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess. But I am not sure what the manager did or did not do yesterday that puts the blame at his door. His senior players have lost concentration in the final minutes of 2 key home games. Who was supposed to be marking the scorer who had a complete free run at the back post? It was an individual and collective loss of concentration (again). I disagreed with his substitution removing Chair for Hugill, but had playing 2 up top produced the elusive goal, he would have been a master tactician. But we have rebuilt the squad to Warburton's direction. None of the new arrivals have proved to be a stroke of magic, but with the exception of Kelly they were all free signings. But our youth players (Eze and Manning etc.) are now talked about for serious money. That alone is progress given our plight We are where we expected to be at the turn of the year and already there is pressure on the manager and of course it goes without saying it will all be Ferdinand's fault as per usual. But what else could he have said yesterday after losing a game that we dominated to a crazy shocking late goal? He even said that he cannot keep repeating the same message. I am as down as every one else about the last 2 home games lapses. Hull had threatened nothing all game, they get a free kick in the 89th and I for one said 'Oh no, surely not!' as they thew everyone forward for the set piece. We are not good at our own corners, throw-ons and free kicks currently - there is room for improvement / training ground work. Our record at conceding from set pieces especially from our left side is also very poor. So I am not saying that it is time to happy clap our team, far from it, but blaming the manager for yesterday is not helpful or correct IMHO (When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess.) I don’t think there are that many calling for Mark Warburtons head yet Ricky, a small section maybe. However we are tumbling down the league after a better start than expected with 2 wins in 13 and however we dress it up the points return from the last four games, four teams under us or around us when we played them and picked up a single point is pretty dire. This is why people are starting to get a bit angry, had we beaten Charlton and Hull and he would still have full support I guess. Its fine lines in football and we are on a pretty bad run at the minute, goalkeeper and defenders making schoolboy errors and throwing the initiative to the opposition. Whilst it great that we look a better team have loads of Possession and chances which is all a big plus from stuff we have seen in the last few seasons, it is a win win business these days sadly. Also regarding Ferdinand I have not read one thing on here blaming Les Ferdinand, I’m not sure about social media as don’t go on regularly to see? So I think it’s more the results since the Birmingham win if honest. Yesterdays performance though, I think fans thought Warburton could do more, substitutions maybe wrong. The game had the feeling of QPR having possession and chances not taking them and Hull taking away the points all over it and it went perfectly to that script sadly.
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Post by bowranger on Dec 30, 2019 11:59:21 GMT
When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess. But I am not sure what the manager did or did not do yesterday that puts the blame at his door. His senior players have lost concentration in the final minutes of 2 key home games. Who was supposed to be marking the scorer who had a complete free run at the back post? It was an individual and collective loss of concentration (again). I disagreed with his substitution removing Chair for Hugill, but had playing 2 up top produced the elusive goal, he would have been a master tactician. But we have rebuilt the squad to Warburton's direction. None of the new arrivals have proved to be a stroke of magic, but with the exception of Kelly they were all free signings. But our youth players (Eze and Manning etc.) are now talked about for serious money. That alone is progress given our plight We are where we expected to be at the turn of the year and already there is pressure on the manager and of course it goes without saying it will all be Ferdinand's fault as per usual. But what else could he have said yesterday after losing a game that we dominated to a crazy shocking late goal? He even said that he cannot keep repeating the same message. I am as down as every one else about the last 2 home games lapses. Hull had threatened nothing all game, they get a free kick in the 89th and I for one said 'Oh no, surely not!' as they thew everyone forward for the set piece. We are not good at our own corners, throw-ons and free kicks currently - there is room for improvement / training ground work. Our record at conceding from set pieces especially from our left side is also very poor. So I am not saying that it is time to happy clap our team, far from it, but blaming the manager for yesterday is not helpful or correct IMHO (When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess.) I don’t think there are that many calling for Mark Warburtons head yet Ricky, a small section maybe. However we are tumbling down the league after a better start than expected with 2 wins in 13 and however we dress it up the points return from the last four games, four teams under us or around us when we played them and picked up a single point is pretty dire. This is why people are starting to get a bit angry, had we beaten Charlton and Hull and he would still have full support I guess. Its fine lines in football and we are on a pretty bad run at the minute, goalkeeper and defenders making schoolboy errors and throwing the initiative to the opposition. Whilst it great that we look a better team have loads of Possession and chances which is all a big plus from stuff we have seen in the last few seasons, it is a win win business these days sadly. Also regarding Ferdinand I have not read one thing on here blaming Les Ferdinand, I’m not sure about social media as don’t go on regularly to see? So I think it’s more the results since the Birmingham win if honest. Yesterdays performance though, I think fans thought Warburton could do more, substitutions maybe wrong. The game had the feeling of QPR having possession and chances not taking them and Hull taking away the points all over it and it went perfectly to that script sadly. Yeah I think some of the comments have to be seen in the context of what's happening on other sites and social media. The mood is frustrated but patient among most, but the 'keyboard warrior' comment makes a lot more sense if you take a peek elsewhere. There's a loud toxic minority elsewhere that has a bizarre obsession with Ferdinand - tend to be the same folk who spam the club telling them to "buy a striker", don't tend to watch the matches and want the manager's head on a stick every other day. So doubt it's a comment about here, we're pretty insulated from that, just the broader world of 'QPR internet'.
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Post by harr on Dec 30, 2019 12:24:33 GMT
(When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess.) I don’t think there are that many calling for Mark Warburtons head yet Ricky, a small section maybe. However we are tumbling down the league after a better start than expected with 2 wins in 13 and however we dress it up the points return from the last four games, four teams under us or around us when we played them and picked up a single point is pretty dire. This is why people are starting to get a bit angry, had we beaten Charlton and Hull and he would still have full support I guess. Its fine lines in football and we are on a pretty bad run at the minute, goalkeeper and defenders making schoolboy errors and throwing the initiative to the opposition. Whilst it great that we look a better team have loads of Possession and chances which is all a big plus from stuff we have seen in the last few seasons, it is a win win business these days sadly. Also regarding Ferdinand I have not read one thing on here blaming Les Ferdinand, I’m not sure about social media as don’t go on regularly to see? So I think it’s more the results since the Birmingham win if honest. Yesterdays performance though, I think fans thought Warburton could do more, substitutions maybe wrong. The game had the feeling of QPR having possession and chances not taking them and Hull taking away the points all over it and it went perfectly to that script sadly. Yeah I think some of the comments have to be seen in the context of what's happening on other sites and social media. The mood is frustrated but patient among most, but the 'keyboard warrior' comment makes a lot more sense if you take a peek elsewhere. There's a loud toxic minority elsewhere that has a bizarre obsession with Ferdinand - tend to be the same folk who spam the club telling them to "buy a striker", don't tend to watch the matches and want the manager's head on a stick every other day. So doubt it's a comment about here, we're pretty insulated from that, just the broader world of 'QPR internet'. Well I must confess Bow I only look on this QPR site so not sure what’s on the others. From the odd time I look on Twitter I see a few crazy comments as usual. I thought all the LF stuff had totally gone away now, obviously it hasn’t then. I guess MW had such a good start that when the bad run came along( which was inevitable) it seemed worse than it was. Then we turned it around with the Preston and Birmingham wins and we hope we could continue so progress. From the Barnsley game though( plus Forest) some of the sloppiness from defence and Goalkeeping has been poor and putting pressure back onto MW when really the team should have won at least two of the last four games and things should be rosy.
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2019 15:24:43 GMT
Yes correct Bow - we tend avoid the toxic element on this site - and that is why I migrated to here away from keyboard warriors. We all hate losing, some more than others, but social media has empowered a certain sector to behave in an anti social way without fear of consequence. It is great that we can find a forum to debate and share our thoughts about our common interest, but I guess many have grown up expecting the first sign of failure to mean that a sacking is overdue. We have usually obliged in the past for little reward and at much cost. Football managers are very well paid and able to get paid off and re-hired it seems, but they still do not deserve the abuse that comes their way. Likewise for players performing poorly. Lumley has had a tough year, but some of the abuse on social media was just astonishing. What is the upside of such actions? It must effect them. Imagine his state of mind after that error yesterday. I am not saying that such errors should go unrecorded or unpunished, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. But we often see a new manager bounce elsewhere (e.g. Barnsley) and so I think that generates the thought that if we were to sack our current manager then we will start winning again. Well maybe, but our record says not. We have some pretty complex issues to deal with, sadly. I suppose my frustration comes from reading the comments since yesterday on other sites and on social media and feeling that it is all too binary. We lost - sack him and what does LF do anyway? Win - and give him another couple of games - then start again. Sites like Newsnow, rejoice in representing these 'reactions' and just create pressure on the club to change. They are only interested in clickbait - sack a manager - hire another one - more clickbait. Take a look at some of the headlines that they choose to lead with: www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/QPR
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Post by rangersman on Dec 30, 2019 17:06:41 GMT
For me, every post is from a keyboard warrior, be it good or bad. I can tell you easily enough that outside this site Warburton is/has lost face a few months back and continues to do so. I have stated i think he is clueless when plan A is not working, this i have witnessed first hand a few times. And i can tell you there are many of us who do not want Lumley in the team. He is a liability, and how HE feels after these howlers are of no importance. We all want us to do well, but you cut your cloth accordingly and make adjustments.
NB i like Newsnow and they do at least delve into a lot of opinions from all angles.
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Post by bowranger on Dec 30, 2019 18:02:26 GMT
Think with Lumley the issue is that he's ours. Ideal world, we have a better keeper to call on but Kelly's been injured and was a mixed bag when he's played. Barnes I know very little about, but Dieng has been getting good reports from his loan spells, but then so did Lumley. What else are we supposed to do? What options do we have?
Issue with that stuff is that, for all the research, it's always going to be a bit of a dice roll. Lumley's pedigree isn't a lot different to players who have succeeded here. He was loved at the Gas on loan, won MoM awards, 8 clean sheets and Blackpool didnt want to give him back to us when we recalled him. But he's struggled making the step up in the way that Chair, Eze and Manning have after similar loan spells. Likewise, we don't know what we're gonna end up with when and if the likes of Smyth, Oteh and Hämäläinen come home.
These are the waters we're in and the risks we have to take on young players. Some work, some don't, some will come good, some just won't cut it. But we should at least want them to succeed.
Like you say, it's all about wanting us to do well, which is why I agree with others saying that it does matter how he feels. While he's our keeper, and while there isn't someone coming to rescue the number 1 shirt from the wings, we need him to do better, and hammering him doesn't help that. Players low on confidence facing hostility tend to play worse. Doesn't mean we have to run him a bubble bath, but we don't have to hammer him over and over either.
And second to that, it's about how we want us as fans to be. It's a broader issue with modern football and social media, but we have fans giving horrendous abuse to players directly online, even targeting their families (as Scowen's dad went public about only a few weeks ago).
I was absolutely fuming about Lumley on Saturday and rightly so, cos he bollocksed it up and cost us the game. But there's a line. Targeting abuse at our own players for genuine mistakes is pointless. I rant about performances on here, or with my mates during/after a game, but I'm not going to boo the bloke or find him online and vent my spleen at him, that stuff does matter. Obviously not saying you're defending that either- just a general point about that relationship between players and supporters crossing that line. People need to take a deep breath.
I think Warburton has some significant questions to answer about the current poor run, definitely. I don't agree with all the subs (but then, I rarely agree 100% with subs made over years n years).
But I do think an alternative to 'Plan A' is something we've at least partially addressed. After Fulham away and the Forest game, we stepped away from a religious adherence to passing it about at the back and we saw a slightly more pragmatic approach that saw a recovery draw at Derby and then wins against Brum and Preston. We weren't afraid to hoof it when we were under the cosh and weren't afraid to use Hugill as an outball when we needed to take the pressure off - same broad system, still not afraid to play out from the back, but a bit more savvy and less inclined to play ourselves into trouble.
The run at the moment hasn't suffered in my opinion due to systems. A combo of crucial mistakes at the back and not taking chances has done us. The 1-0 at Reading didnt look anything like the Forest game and neither did the Charlton draw. If we were playing like we did against Forest week in and week out, if we weren't creating chances, if we were passing the ball around our own box in dangerous areas when the opposition are in the ascendancy (Fulham away by far the most annoying, stupid example of that) then I'd be closer to agreeing. But when your keeper is dropping routine balls out of the blue to the opposition and you're throwing the kitchen sink at Reading and it's hitting the keeper in the face from 3 yards rather than go in, I'm inclined to cut the bloke a bit of slack.
Hugill and Wells are both in a rut. But again, who plays up top instead?
I know this is out of the window for plenty of people but it still boils down to this for me. Almost every year we change manager and almost every year it doesn't get any better. We have less money, a more disrupted and cheap squad than ever. We're on a crap run but still midtable when most fans said they'd be happy with that. The fact we have this debate almost annually should tell us something. Managing us is bloody hard and that job gets harder when we throw the foundations out the window to appease the next short-term hire. Enough, it doesn't work. If we continue this run, we show no signs of improvement and look awful doing it, then it's a different discussion. But we ain't there yet.
Have to agree to disagree on the NewsNow stuff. Clickbait dredged up based on the most inflammatory tweets possible and unnamed sources for them to get ad revenue.
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2019 18:49:05 GMT
When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess. But I am not sure what the manager did or did not do yesterday that puts the blame at his door. His senior players have lost concentration in the final minutes of 2 key home games. Who was supposed to be marking the scorer who had a complete free run at the back post? It was an individual and collective loss of concentration (again). I disagreed with his substitution removing Chair for Hugill, but had playing 2 up top produced the elusive goal, he would have been a master tactician. But we have rebuilt the squad to Warburton's direction. None of the new arrivals have proved to be a stroke of magic, but with the exception of Kelly they were all free signings. But our youth players (Eze and Manning etc.) are now talked about for serious money. That alone is progress given our plight We are where we expected to be at the turn of the year and already there is pressure on the manager and of course it goes without saying it will all be Ferdinand's fault as per usual. But what else could he have said yesterday after losing a game that we dominated to a crazy shocking late goal? He even said that he cannot keep repeating the same message. I am as down as every one else about the last 2 home games lapses. Hull had threatened nothing all game, they get a free kick in the 89th and I for one said 'Oh no, surely not!' as they thew everyone forward for the set piece. We are not good at our own corners, throw-ons and free kicks currently - there is room for improvement / training ground work. Our record at conceding from set pieces especially from our left side is also very poor. So I am not saying that it is time to happy clap our team, far from it, but blaming the manager for yesterday is not helpful or correct IMHO (When we win, the manager is a genius. When we lose he has to be sacked. That is the nature of keyboard warriors I guess.) I don’t think there are that many calling for Mark Warburtons head yet Ricky, a small section maybe. However we are tumbling down the league after a better start than expected with 2 wins in 13 and however we dress it up the points return from the last four games, four teams under us or around us when we played them and picked up a single point is pretty dire. This is why people are starting to get a bit angry, had we beaten Charlton and Hull and he would still have full support I guess. Its fine lines in football and we are on a pretty bad run at the minute, goalkeeper and defenders making schoolboy errors and throwing the initiative to the opposition. Whilst it great that we look a better team have loads of Possession and chances which is all a big plus from stuff we have seen in the last few seasons, it is a win win business these days sadly. Also regarding Ferdinand I have not read one thing on here blaming Les Ferdinand, I’m not sure about social media as don’t go on regularly to see? So I think it’s more the results since the Birmingham win if honest. Yesterdays performance though, I think fans thought Warburton could do more, substitutions maybe wrong. The game had the feeling of QPR having possession and chances not taking them and Hull taking away the points all over it and it went perfectly to that script sadly. There is a lot of noise on other boards Harr. See the link below that says that Amit is getting it left right and centre on social media to sack Warburton and hire Warnock. I hope that he does not knee jerk or think that it is the view of the masses. www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/general/qpr-fans/2530358-yesterday
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2019 18:57:33 GMT
For me, every post is from a keyboard warrior, be it good or bad. I can tell you easily enough that outside this site Warburton is/has lost face a few months back and continues to do so. I have stated i think he is clueless when plan A is not working, this i have witnessed first hand a few times. And i can tell you there are many of us who do not want Lumley in the team. He is a liability, and how HE feels after these howlers are of no importance. We all want us to do well, but you cut your cloth accordingly and make adjustments. NB i like Newsnow and they do at least delve into a lot of opinions from all angles. Well we all have our preferences for QPR message boards. There are so many to choose from. I only post on this one but sometimes look at others and I have great respect for Clive's LFW articles. Genuine question, is this the only board you post on - is it your preferred board or do you feel that the quality of response is superior if and when you post on other boards? I have only ever seen you disagree with comments on this board. I think that Newsnow is a good gathering service, but rather than collecting opinions from all angles, my view is that where fans feedback is concerned, they always go for the sensational as clickbait. Glad you enjoy it though.
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